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  • I went to the tbln site but cdnt find how t vote, there. How d u vote?

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  • Interesting movie, but I have one question: what does Edgar Mitchell say about all this? An astronaut that walked on the moon, he is also an outspoken UFO believer. Does he also maintain the moon has no color, or does he confirm what you say? As one of the few humans that walked on the moon, does he know about these structures and openly acknowledge them, or is he also part of the cover up? I'd think he'd be the most important person to interview, but he appears nowhere in the film. Why?

  • @MadHighway - U R an ASSTARD

  • Jose is a busy person and I am a producer on this film. Any of your technical questions regarding the claims made within the film can be directed at me. Thank you.

  • Only in english??? Shit-i Need german or serbien_____PLS

  • :D i actually watched all of it and i gotta say you are all stuck in an altered reality. No Really not me not us but you people. This is the utter meaning of conspiracy you need to get away from theese people talking this nonsense and go make the most out of your life.

    Wow just Wow

  • muito interessante

  • What about ever company that own satellites with cameras and some point them at the moon and that fact that i can add random color to any image and that the some of the astronauts did in fact take color pictures and why would decolorising and then the fact that with thousands of miles of surface area there are bound to be some structure that look strange(maybe even some that look like aliens) and also the fact that some image errors are bound to occur. Please respond for more info.

  • i went to clementine 2.0 beta AND THERE IS NOTHING THERE, the spot that is supposed to be blurred is not blurred and there is nothing there.

  • "Jose Escamilla So glade to see your work"! Anything you do I'm interested!. Can't wait for the re-edit version. Also don't you just hate the inferential statements, why do they feel the need to hate. I have the utmost respect for your work , your honest is immeasurable.

    Thank You. You have my vote, and I will post where ever I can.

    Peace, and Love to you

    Good Luck!

    .

  • How the name of this songs?..One instrumental music exactly.....whem the man speaks on radio.

  • I would built missile systems on the moon...and press the red button

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  • You should call the film "Moron Rising".

  • CLICK HERE TO SKIP OPENING CREDITS: 4:39

    (thumb up to thank me)

  • @omgbutts people like you make me lose faith in us as a race, why does it matter if he's a "Beaner"? have you ever tried making anything like this and presenting it to a public forum? Go ahead, link us, I'd like to see what people say about it.

  • i doubt there's aliens on the moon,but sure there is something there that they don't want us to know

  • @kajcsapapa the fact is they already have a moon base they havent told the public yet thats the secret

  • JLE ..THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEOS! I BELIEVE YOU AND YOU ARE A BRAVE MAN, IF YOU SAY THE TRUTH ONLY...GO AHEAD! THIS IS THE TIME AND THIS IS YOUR SHIFT! ..BLESSING THE MAN THAT SEARCH THE TRUTH!

  • man this people are paranoid every thing is a conspiracy

  • Can you provide a list of the music you used? The soundtrack lineup? Whatever they are great choices!

  • I tried to go and vote and there was nothing there for me to vote on? Wth is up with that?

  • Can I put subtitles in it and post it on my blog? I'd love to show this to people that doesn't understand english very well here in Brazil.

  • @djowssbaal - Please wait until the new re-edited version is released. It has brand new never before seen footage and many changes than on this original version. Give it a couple months and I will contact you. JE

  • JUST GET A TELESCOPE AND LOOK AT THE THE SPOTS THAT ARE BLURRED TO SEE WHATS THERE

  • This is horrible. A smudge on a picture, and they don't ask for an official explanation, instead go in the opposite direction with... photoshop and tinfoil hats?? Solid science there. Object the size of Los Angeles moved without anyone noticing the massive (impossible) effort that would take to get there, move it, and leave no evidence? I guess they brought those sand trap rakes from the golf course. Is this what happens when humans white knuckle logic and ignore critical thinking??

  • @check12345 - IF you represent critical thinking this explains the ASSTARD phenomenon.

  • Joseescamilla, just wanted to say thank you. We can only hope people, one day, stop being ignorant. Logic is seriously lacking in mankind.

  • where are the other parts?

  • Did you ever get straight with Andrew? Seems a shame to lose trust and credibility over something that could be so easily mended. Just step up, apologize, and gain back a friend and partner.

  • @camerrill I cannot discuss business regarding myself and Mr. Stec, but I will state that we are on talking terms and things will eventually get resolved. JE

  • Gahh I can't find where to vote on the site. I am feeling pretty dumb. A little help?

  • "afterall it is a small planet compared to the earth" Moons not a planet..comon if you can't get the basics right why would i believe anything else

  • @BkRoc - Even astronauts have called the Moon a planet. Most of you people need to start checking things out rather than calling it quits just because you haven't looked into everything there is to know about the Moon. The "basics" have been spoon fed to you by an organization that has lied to you about everything for decades. Expand that brain of yours and wake up from the illusion they've sold you. - JE

  • @joseescamilla I actually watched the entire documentry and although it had some interesting stuff it was filled with proxy science and anyone watching this needs to take it with a grain of salt. "They" have not sold me anything, I believe, for the most part, the most logical explanations science has to offer, sometimes this goes against the established thought and sometimes it does not but thats what makes science beautiful, not calling everyone who disagrees with you close-minded.

  • @joseescamilla I actually watched the entire documentry and although it had some interesting stuff it was filled with proxy science and anyone watching this needs to take it with a grain of salt. "They" have not sold me anything, I believe, for the most part, the most logical explanations science has to offer, sometimes this goes against the established thought and sometimes it does not but thats what makes science beautiful, not calling everyone who disagrees with you close-minded.

  • @BkRoc

    I have to agree with you. There's nothing here that is proof of anything. And I think the comments left by Joe is really sad. If you really believe this stuff, argue with facts, or at least what you think are facts...don't just call someone close-minded and an idiot. That's not an argument. The burden of proof is on you, and I see nothing substantial in these videos.

  • @joseescamilla aha.... and what about the Soviet and Chinese space programs, and even the other countries' space progrms that started recently? Do they all lie? Don't you think that at least one of these programs would have tried to uncover something that big publicly? If you want to tell that they all participate in one and the sma cospiracy you are just gullible. The Soviet and USA were in economical and political warfare. Russian, Chinese and USA values are very different from one another.

  • Jose Escamilla? Hahaha you would have to retarded to believe anything this beaner has to say.

  • @omgbutts - This "beaner" makes films idiots like you get your diapers all up in a bunch over. JE

  • @joseescamilla  Your'e my favourite beaner by far Jose - Thanks a million for all the time and hard work you put into your website , videos etc etc ..... Thanks again !! :D

  • @joseescamilla Is this the REAL Jose Escamilla that made this video?

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  • It would be really awesome if you let people buy this movie on Amazon Instant video.

  • @tobigforyou - It's going to be on NETFLIX free streaming....you have to become a subscriber on NETFLIX if you aren't already it is well worth it! You will see this and all my films there from here on. JE

  • Now I am not a very keen skeptic and the moon certainly holds many intrigues but that smudge you have pointed out... it seems I can see the continuation of the crater behind it, both for the front and back craters. Do you see what I mean? Perhaps the photo technology they had used then was simply prone to causing these smudge defects?

  • which JFK speech is that from?

  • where the fuck is part 2

  • @thatstheguy07 - I am doing re-edit to the film and I am fixing certain parts and deleting parts that don't need to be there anymore. Moon Rising has been taken off also, because it is soon going to be made available on NETFLIX for free to all subscribers on their streaming channel and soon to be released for rental on the DVD programs.

  • It looked like a giant stone Megalith to me, or just a natural mountain range.

  • The space ship Columbia was shot down by a UFO...

    According to reports the ship had already entered the atmosphere when it blew up.

    Not incinerating from the heat

  • So, you're saying there's a humanoid on the moon that is 10x bigger than Los Angeles? I'm pretty open-minded, but that seems to reek of manure.

  • @prussell66 nah, only 1/10th the size of los angeles

  • @prussell66 Either we're looking at a different picture than he was, or hes talking crap.

  • @b2spirita I do find the pictures that have been censored to be of interest, but most of the ones that Richard Hoagland and others claim as proof of cities, structures, pyramids, etc... on the Moon and Mars are so blurred out that they are next to useless. It's like an ink-blot test. One person sees an alien double-wide and another sees a lump of rocks. Hasn't anyone ever heard of the Focus knob?

  • @b2spirita - I got so much crap about saying this thing looks like a giant humanoid bent over, which it DOES look like a human shape, that I am re-editing this portion and others for the final film release to be put on NETFLIX. I admit I should not even have mentioned this, but I did and will make sure NETFLIX viewers won't be exposed to this slip of the tongue. I screwed up...besides the new film is going to be better...much better. JE

  • @prussell66 - NO I am NOT saying there is a giant humanoid...I said...."there is what appears to be" and then I state, "this may be a reflection of something resembling a humanoid," but everyone seems to only hear the early part, so I am re-editing the film and making a different statement so people quit taking this literally. Making more changes before releasing it on NETFLIX. Thanks for asking...JE

  • @prussell66 it's not a good idea to apply our knowledge and understanding on "beings" who's technology is far more advanced than us.

  • BULL SQUAT 100%

  • We're not moving forward anymore. Right now we're stuck in a 60 year lie.

  • Well my friend,sometimes logic just beats the crap out of faith.To each his own. I have no intention of convincing you into anything,if it suits you to be a Christian,then be one,as long as you do the same and don't try to convert the "pagans".

  • I DIDN'T SEE A PLACE TO VOTE ON THE WEBSITE!

  • Saw on another of your comments pages dated April 2011, that u wanted people to still vote on the website listed but there is no place to vote only to purchase your movies I'd really like to vote

  • the thing about technology now is they cant explain this away anymore they will have to start answering answers real soon people are smart they want answers and a movie like this is a real mind blow for even the average house wife i appreciate all your efforts to produce this to let me and any other that want's answers some hope that someone can say we have a choice to know.

    thank you

  • the thing about technology now is they cant explain this away anymore they will have to start answering answers real soon people are smart they want answers and a movie like this is a real mind blow for even the average house wife i appreciate all your efforts to produce this to let me and any other that want's answers some hope that someone can say we have a choice to know.

    thank you

  • this film is and should and perhaps will become a reference for the near future for are civilisation, to become aware of the reality of this planet called earth,and the slow but gradual information all available for us to be part of,hence the possibility to know more if we look , its realy there no matter what we believe or dont believe,we cant go back ,its time for us to share the knowledge....we have the tools and the mindset,to evolve .....great video.

  • @Hipster55 i dunno, the old broadcasts are pretty neat and worth it.

  • @downrightvlog this is true.

  • everyone is mind controlled with garbage

  • I think the American people is the primary responsibility, should be ashamed, everyone, because they allow their leaders to write lies about history books, unacceptable

  • @ 5:49

    clementine lunar image browser?? ermm...been there and there is no blur...so this is bullshit

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  • christianity is the biggest bullcrap story of them all

  • @RyanDaMan31

    I would say Religion,not Christianity. Christianity is just a tiny bit of BS,along with all other religions.

  • @Tidlitoots Christianity isnt a religion its a walk of faith

  • @RyanDaMan31 Oh you're reaaaly edgy! Are you going to stay up past your bed time tonight?

  • @RyanDaMan31 Amongst others, yes. Religion is a Cage. Chains stripping you under the water. Move to feel them, Raise to break them. 

  • @Sarimae23 spirituality is different from religion, but the tenets are the same--morality gives you freedom from the impulses of our bodies, but no religion just tells you to give into whatever temptation or desire you have, and that is freedom--that is sense enslavement and gives power over you to whoever can manipulate human desire, particularly media movies etc

  • @RyanDaMan31 After Islam it is.

  • @RyanDaMan31 No, that would be your post.

  • @RyanDaMan31 Dude, wake-up....OMG

    Holy stories are not litteral interpretations of what people saw....

    Idiot

    Its the world history written by people who couldnt explain everything they saw.

    If people 3000 years ago saw a flying entity.

    They would describe it as a man with wings, saying it had the power of flight.

    Christianity is derived from the sumerian history.

    The old testament is a rewritten version...

    KNOW YOU HISTORY BEFORE YOU START talking shit

  • @RyanDaMan31 I like your Jesus, but I don`t like your Christians they are so unlike Jesus .

  • @RyanDaMan31 I like your Christ but I do not like your Christians they are so unlike your Christ.

  • @DrayBay Exactly. Too many people are hypocrites nowadays.

  • @RyanDaMan31 false.

  • @RyanDaMan31 amen:)

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  • @greensasque seems the plan is working then eh! nice, nasa's job here is complete. please enjoy your big mac! beleiving what you are told, good boy!

  • Those Astronauts were killed not died from a accident, research what they were involved in if you can find anything about them and you will see why they were removed.

  • How come America has more fools and idiots per state than the whole rest of the world combined? Capitalism must be bad for the brain...

  • well.. texas is the size of france. its a pretty big country.

  • That is all relative. There are 65,000,000 people who live in France. There are only 25,000,000 or so Texans. And most of these are insane, lol.

  • yea. i bet iys more than a coinsidence that 80% of americans are overweight and brain dead morons

  • @Jopari444

    stfu u tiny dicedk asshole lols

    jealou lil creeps lols sorri but yea :.(

  • @Jopari444

    weird, you could talk about any country and you chose USA. ive talked it over and we've accepted your jealousy. but you are probably from australia (penal colony) canada (HAHAHA EH!) or england. (which we already punked you once. and now youre our bitch). so, yeah. eat it, whatever you are.

  • @JRoBeezy "The 3 countries I am aware of". Bestseller by an American citizen.

  • @MartijnHover

    I think once people find out that Santa Claus is not real ,A dramatic event that may leave a person scared for life.

  • An interesting theory, but it can't be true because Santa Claus is actually a Dutch invention and the Dutch are somewhat less gullible than your average American...

  • oops *menainglees = meaningless

  • then how do you explain that the picture has been clearly doctored?

  • This is completely and utterly meaningless waffle.

    There is nothing, absolutely nothing, even remotely scientific in the theory or practices of Jose e-SCAM-illa.

    The Universe is an AWESOME (in the real sense of the word) place that far and away surpasses in magnitude and variety anything imagined by e-SCAM-illa. e-SCAM-illa doesnt actually believe the dribble he pumps out. Its just a good old fashioned Carnie' we got going here.

    PT BARNUM without the wit, charm , style.... or the manners.

  • Ending of the first part scared the shit out of me. I forgot my headphones were maxed out.

  • Pmsl, 10 times the size of LA, with a large humanoid one end. F****** large all right about 25000 ft tall. Numptys

  • *****!

  • 4 1/2 mins of opening credits. good god you're killing me!

  • @Hipster55 thanks you!!i dont have to spend this time

  • @Hipster55 Thank you for saving 4 1/2 minutes of my life.

  • @JDMvids1105 lol. I actually watched all of them... sad but true. :-/

  • Thank you for sharing this. Thank you.

  • if nasa does not want to reveal these pixs, maybe bcse is nothing and NASA may not want the funding of the space program stopped, or that there is something and they dont want to release the real thing until they know more details but they have no money to conduct all the expirements that they need to find out what it really is, the only ones that know what really is in the moon are the astronauts and am pretty sure those guys are not going to say anything negative about the moon

  • who does challenger chalenge???

    Allah swt.

    That's way they explode ;)

  • Everything has to do after Roswell 1947.

  • NASA definitely edits pictures. It's harder to spot now, but years ago, you could see where someone just opened up the pictures in Paint or something, and painted over shit in black. It was so blatantly obvious.

  • I went to Nasa. gov and I couldnt see anything good of the picture and the good pix they have is blurred, I just want to know wouldnt the hubble catch this when it crashed and send pixs? and I thought we should see the images of the crash as it was happening...but u just see the impact and thats it

  • so if there are aliens on the moon whats the reasoning of slaming a rocket into it in october

  • They want to see if, by hitting the moon with a

    rocket if there will be water under the surface.

  • Some believe those astronauts were sacrificed for NASAs greed for more funding. I myself dont really know what the truth is anymore or claim I ever did. Man is opposed to fair play- he wants it all and he wants his way- that we all know is Truth.

  • How nice they make conclusion with wrong exceptions.

    The making of the theory is like jumping on a needle.

    No facts, theory on sloppy methodics.

    And no i don't have to defend.

    As so you don't have to as there is not a proof/fact that is there. As air is isn't water, but water is Air. !

  • I have always believed in life on other worlds as well as ancient civilizations here on earth. We have been kept in the dark for too long. The evidence is overwhelming and I just wish our government and the other powers in our world would simply allow us to become one with the universe and quit hiding knowlege from us.

  • Too many professional retired millitary intelligence have come forward saying aliens to exist and has been in contact with U.S. official for years. These older American are coming forward facing ridicule because they don't want this monumental secret to die with them. Those in power keeping us in a false reality is what should stir up fear in us -- not aliens who so far haven't zapped us to kingdom come. Disclosure Now!!!!!!

  • I don't personally believe in aliens, I believe the N.W.O. would like us to think there are aliens so they could fear-monger us into doing whatever they want.

  • So do you not believe that aliens have visited our Solar system? Or do you not believe there is any intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe?

    p.s. You should look into project bluebeam.

  • How to vote guys

  • they musy come to their own relization of Self, corporations are a symton of the sickness of ego. they wud be illegal in a sain world. ALL in good time yatukh001 truth is a constant and will come out and true natures also =]. peace is inevitable eventually =]

  • Most westerners believe capitalism is a Good thing...however do not realize its main concept is placing the majority of wealth in the hands of few. TRUE Socialism on the other hand is demonized to the west and the coutries who've used it, ..use it 'falsly'...Socialism distributes equal wealth...UK, Canada, Sweden are NOT socilaist...NO they are welfare states still owned by Gov't and Corporations.

  • The blueness of the planet was what your corporations were so afraid of.

    They were totally scared shitless of the idea of the blueness being able to prove to other alien cultures that there is life on this planet.

    So they began among other things to remove the water by preventing it from flowing it´s natural path and that´s why all the dams and all the pollution.

    Why do you allow such scared people to run your corporations? What´s the bloody matter with you?

  • IF YOU THINK THAT ALIEN IS BIG, what about the being that is the universe in which we are inside lol, as above so below ;) we are fractal u know.

  • The giant humanoid term is stupid because this space station or whatever it is.....is 10 times the size of LA. Thats one big fucken alien. Other than that I believe there is all kinds of shit on the moon. We didn't land there anyway that was staged. We had alien encounters and they never made it all the way.

  • they are all the satans of lucifer.they are from our own planet.they live beneath the earth crust,not some other planet

  • Let the truth be known man. This guy knows what he is talking about.

  • Neither the grays nor the reptilians overly concern me. The Blur People, however, should fill our hearts with fear, if not total demoralization and despair. I mean, where do you shoot one of the Blur People? For even the most skilled of marksmen, getting a bead on a Blur Person is challenging, if not utterly impossible.

    FAX

  • the Blur People?? now that's a 'race' I have never heard of and I know of many extracelestrial beings.

  • Perhaps, in this section of the Galaxy, you would know them better as The Smudge.

    FAX

  • um no that doesn't ring a bell either. is there info about them on google or is there a website about them?

  • Im sorry but i cant tell if your conversation is serious or a Joke...

  • @fhowchief lol that is funny

    the smudge people, the blur people,

    NASA and their censor people.

  • get high and watch these nwo/alien/lizard type of vids man....it awsome!! dudes.....

  • interesting...

  • ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ye.. i watch this stuff when i bored

  • A giant humanoid lol!  Thats my favorite part. This is a fake documentary right?

  • Holy shit, there's a blur on Google Earth near my house!!

    I haven't spotted to 5-mile tall humanoid yet but I'm sure it's out there.

    Thanks for the heads up you freaking lunatics.

  • take a second, not each night if you dont want to, but once in your life. having a beer with your friends by a fire even. LOOK at the sky for God´s sake, i did this just a few times this year and have seen 2 extremely suspicious military/ext ter vehicles, with others.

    OUR ANCESTORS DEDICATED THEMSELVES TO THIS; TAKE A SECOND TO INHERIT THEIR CULTURE

  • Small world you live in. I bet its flat too.

  • maldita sea!!!! no esta en español...!!! maldita sea!!

  • LOL...nobody is living on the moon, not now, nor in the past. And the moon is hollow? Impossible.

  • Of course it isn't hollow. I'm certain you're in the position to make that argument. You sound like an open minded educated individual.

  • It amazes me the people among us, who on the surface are educated, perceptive, and intelligent, and yet they resist what they don't want to believe or are too cynical to believe anything but the "chamber of commerce" version of certain events. When it comes to the vast lies, conspiracies, and manipulation that the US government has used and continues to use to to control and mislead the American people to advance their secret agenda.

  • continued from my last coment): It's time to force a critical mass among the public, scientists and others who know what's been happening to force the truth to finally be told. "You shall seek the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

  • We lost more than just a great president when JFK was murdered, we lost our grandest, best vision as a nation. Pigs like Nixon gutted the space program after he took control, and we've been floundering in space ever since. It's a tribute to the honest men and women of NASA and others who work to promote and work for space exploration that we've managed to keep going. But the powers that be have held us back and lied to us about the real truth like our government always does.

  • some people will never change or open their mind . so its a waste of time talking or debating. its theraputical for them to come here and debate since unconsciously they are scared and rush to prove themselves . let them be , and who cares about them ,they are products of the machine=programed by intelligent yet limited minded professors etc

  • go to the link in the description and vote to make these clips free from copy right

    CHEERS

  • i think we are not alone in this universe. i am sure there are civilization in the milky way. whether intelligence life or not, we are not alone

  • SuperBk2000, excellent idea!

    Since truth in ufology is no longer connected to reality, but raterh to everyone's personal beliefs, you should pray the we-are-not-alone-mantra at least twice a day, indeed. This way, all doubts and damands for a tangible proof will evaporate. In 50-100years or so, UFO-churches will dominate our world-religions and godemichets are sold as mind-enlighting alien-probes, people can insert and hold with their sphincter-muscle.

    ;-))

  • People need to share this with their friends and families if they believe those very same people can handle whats being presented. This film represents the latest discoveries in the UFO community. VOTE!, THEN SHARE THIS VIDEO!

    PEACE to the HUMAN RACE! LOL!

  • 777equals666, LOL! Obviously you are in middle of spreading the ufological swine flu, the exological blue tongue desease - and conspirational BSE. (All at the same time)

    ;-))

  • LOL! You are just a little hater sucha4you.

  • 777equals666, no, I hate absolutly nobody. I like simply to probe UFO-crazies. Mentally of coarse.

    ;-))

  • Sacha4you, how about before you take the stand that everything is all crazieness in the whole UFO world (lots but not everything is), try to figure out why 777=666. ;)

    I'll even give you a BIG hint.

    111=666

    There is lots you don't know about. Now is a great time to start learning ...

  • iysun777, when you refer to ordinary math (used by mentally healthy and educated people), both your 'equations' '777=666' and '111=666' are wrong. When applied to astrology and numerology, where everything goes, since these are people-fooling pseudeosciences, practised by miseducated people, then validity of these things go into the realm of beliefs. Whenever science goes against belief, belief wins. That's a historical fact. And self-brainwashing is not learning.

    ;-))

  • Your beloved education systems are stuck in a tiny little box of petrified dogma. They still teach Columbus discovered America lol. Learn Pi and you will understand why 777=666. Also the laws of mathematics are different in consciousness then in the material. 4 ideas can = 1 invention ect...

    At least we have you thinking about it, even if you disbelieve its better then having no belief. The truth will hit you sooner or later. Best of luck until then!

  • iysun777, you expel utter ufoistic nonsense: Real education and science have nothing to do with beliefs and dogmata, since understanding and verifyable, unambigous proofs are the supporting columns. Bad science and pseudoscience however are based on beliefs, logical fallacies, ideological pseudo-laws, impressive (apparent) connections between unrelated topics, and, dark insinuations. Pi (3.141...) is defined as the ratio between a circle's circumference and its diameter. Nothing else.

    ;-))

  • you've just made an accurate description of mainstream science. thanks!!!

    scientists BELIEVE the big bang happened, its not provable.

    Scientists BELIEVE in evolution, its still a theory!!!

    so wake up!!!

  • zenithar6666, wow! Bold claims. Let's start with your weasel-word 'scientists believe'. It's as informative as 'newspapers wrote', 'most people think' or 'it is believed'. Remember, only ordinary people believe, since they can't handle the unkown or hypotheses and fill in gaps of missing knowledge with beliefs - even about science itself. We have pretty much proofs about the Big bang and evolution, but I don't think, you would even understand these. So continue to believe. It helps much!

    ;-))

  • You know sacha4you, your problem is you think you know everything, therefore you shut the door on the sea of infinite possibilities called reality.

    Intelligence is a trap that snares those that are not careful, by blocking them from finding out real truths.

    'Western' science today is based on petrified dogma and authority, the 2 great extinguishers of truth. Period.

    Your ego is currently stopping you from agreeing with me and others because it won't let you admit you are wrong.

    Much love! ;)

  • iysun777, you expell ufoisms again, when you make imputations: I've never claimed I know everything. The problem (all govt on this planet today have to fight with) are people like you, whose head is filled under the roof with prejudices, many things have to be kept away from them, since they can't handle it. Since you are obviously so much brainwashed, you can not even recognize with who you should start a discussion and with who better not, I'd suggest, you seeked for professional help.

    ;-))

  • brainwashed!!! haha, good one11

    and in the mean time you sit there talking about unproven theories that are slowly falling apart!!

    i feel you have been brainwashed by the mainstream like i was once!! please come back when you've opened your mined, you'll see things alot clearer

  • zenithar6666, in this point, you are correct: More and more states and western countries decline evolution and science, so creationism, occultism, numerology, astrology, ufology, exology are the things that will crash the building of science, technology and math soon.

    And when people will have become so open minded, they can clearly see, we don't need technology, since it comes from Asia, and energy comes from OPEC, all knowledge will fall apart.

    ;-))

  • Sacha4you, why is it that all you can do is insult people rather then have a rational discussion? Insulting others is the natural defense that the ego creates when it can no longer back up its lies with facts. I'm sure you mean well, but you are quite confused, as your paradigm is crashing around you and yet you refuse to "open wide thine eyes." I'd be confused too if I was able to remain so ignorant in light of so many facts.

    I have the easy job, all I have to do is speak truth, not insults.

  • iysun777, you are absolute right. Since rampant superstition is the bright future of western civilisation (we don't need longer science and technology, since all these things come from China) I agree, astrology, numerology ufol