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  • Commonly the majority don't develop anything new in art, philosophy, politics etc.

    If the world is to move forward then we need people who make a stand against the 'cool, trendy, popular' opinions and angles.

    It takes a strong person to stand alone and say 'I don't care what you think'. Only with these individuals will life progress.

    A stagnant pond is always going to die and drag its surroundings with it.

    Good video - I like.

  • @ClemProductions Thank you.

  • Right on! I have been getting some of my first dislikes, and I've been getting some comments at my channel that show that the people making the comments don't even understand the video. And I don't even who does it or why? That's right. Should I disable ratings? I've heard that dislikes even improve rankings on youtube.

  • @shaysreblog I'll tell you this, I am unconcerned with rankings. i prefer to interact with the people who watch my channel. I have been disabling the ratings for awhile now. If people want to watch my videos they will. Good luck and do what you are most comfortable with.

  • I know this is an old video Dereck but I had to comment.

    Constructive criticism is always the way to go. Sadly the people that you're trying to reach are like 3 legged cats trying to bury their turds on a frozen pond - they're hopeless.

    Even worse, once these people have left youtube at the end of the day.. they have to live with themselves - poor them (!) hehe ;)

    Theres always room to vent, and you'll always have the VC support but then you know that. Cheers mate :)

  • @vinylated Thank you!

  • You obvious already know this, but Youtube use to not have a dislike button.

  • Great speech 4 minutes in you're right about capitalism mate.

  • @lopedeaguirre1 Thanks! Keeping it real.

  • so great,what i often thought about,you say.

    make it possible to only activate the dislike button if you can provide it with an explanation.

  • @cosmicrider287 Thank you!

  • @dereckvon hey,after all you win because you have such an extraordinary record collection with a knowledge to match.i`ll scan through your inspiring and informative uploads mr.dereck!

  • @cosmicrider287 Leave comments if you like.

  • you made a lot of really good points Dereck,i agree.i know people who really pay attention to the like/dislikes to the point where it affects the videos they watch.i love the dog shit analogy! much love and respect.

  • @dimebagdave77 Much love to you Dave!

  • Great rant. But if you think this place is bad for "Thumbs Down" you should check out Yahoo Answers "Rock & Pop" section. I've been an on/off regular for the better part of 4 years or so. Some of the trolls there have multiple accounts just for the sole purpose of thumbing down other users answers several times. I used to let it bother me...but now those little thumbs have become part of the scenery...I've come to expect them, the same way I expect to find piss on the toilet seat at Denny's :)

  • @drprogensteinphp Thanks Doc. No doubt this is a rite of passage. I still don't regret being so public about it.

  • @dereckvon

    You shouldn't feel guilty. I'm glad you posted this, as are we all.

    As for the Rock & Pop section at Yahoo Answers TD's? I've been there since the sites inception...so the "right of passage" thing doesn't apply there. Just a bunch of losers living in their parents basements, no doubt miserable with their own lives. I seem to notice a drop in "Thumbs Down" once school commences though, so that says something right there. Also, I think some may be jealous of your knowledge/collection.

  • A very necessary rant! Thank you for taking the time to make these points.

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  • You should disable them man. I feel you %100. Dislikes send me on a trip through my insecurities and faults to try to find out why someone would do that.

  • Said all that needs to be said. :)

  • @50kvsstudiosessions Thanks for commenting. I am so sorry you went through that. It is truly dismaying the insensitivity we have to deal with in life.

  • Agreed 100%. Not much else to say... Constructive criticism is rare on youtube, and it's quite sad. All the anonymous dislikes can be seriously demotivating.

  • Couldn't agree more with you Dereck, I watch quite a few vids of people with video games collection and there's always people posting stuff like "get a life" etc. Just makes me wonder who's got the more pathetic life - someone spending time doing something they enjoy or someone finding videos of things they're not interested in just to leave dislikes and insults. Complete saddos.

  • awesome, simply awesome. you tell em dereck!!! thumbs up

  • @dereckvon thanks for the message. I'm not a musician, I just have a love for the strange and loud in music. I've been in the vc for about 6 months and it's never boring. I guess I'm under the radar ( I prefer that) here in vc land. As for the dislike button unknowns out there, shake it off and bring on the videos! I tried earlier to leave a comment but it didn't take, so if it pops up sorry for repeating myself.

  • @calvear68 No probem, will be right here.

  • Great video, agree 100% with you!

  • @theralmetallord Thank you!

  • Brotha!! You hit the nail square on the head. This needed to be said and you said it eloquently, F-bombs and all. If we in the vinyl community Love & respect music, then we should be able to show Love & respect to those who Love music.

  • Dereck Express's Exactly What He feels and He always has!!!!I Enjoy all Of This!!!!

  • @VailSongwriter Love you, my friend!

  • speak my brother, you hit the nail on, you so right thanks you dereck for the vid, Ben

  • @bennyuk25 Thank you Ben.

  • I think the source of this is the culture which has spawned x-factor, pop idol etc in which people feel that everything in life is a 10 second audition that they can dislike without there being consequence for the people involved. Particularly when disliking or ridiculing something is encouraged by these shows. I think that the internet and the ability to like or dislike is at heart a democratic process, but it is ruined by the negative forces that result from this culture. PS. love your videos!

  • @agrimfarce Thank you!

  • Sadly, anonymous rating has been around for a long, long time in the media. Even the MPAA (to take an example), is the only agency besides the CIA that has anonymous employees. What does that say about the transparency of the rating process?

    Where is the accountability? I do agree with you. I think YouTube, in the hopes of making interaction easy, have overlooked REAL interaction a bit, and made it possible for people to abuse the current system to boos views, charting and more.

    Great Video!

  • @marcosmcodas Boost* views, sorry for the typo. 

  • @marcosmcodas Thanks.

  • all great things-concepts-people etc. are disliked by a minority (or the majority) so to be disliked is to be in great company :) hitting the dislike is like: not enjoying a record or a book & getting rid of it, as one hadn't acquired the taste or need for it. then later finding urself picking it up w/ much more cherish than ever. also, they same someone you did not like at first, will become a better friend than someone you liked all along. strange but very true. i never like enduring it:)

  • @786baqi Really well said and thank you for sharing.

  • I couldn't agree more - I've never hit the dislike button in all my time watching YouTube videos. I sometimes see negative numbers on some VC members posts and literally stare at them in disbelief. If someone goes to the time and trouble to make a video, which you don't necessarily agree with, then don't disrespect them by hitting "dislike" - just close your browser and move on to something else.

  • Well said Dereck, I agree with you!

  • Amen, Dereck. I wish that Dislike button didn't exist. What good could it possibly do anyone, including anyone who uses it? Absolutely none.

    "We don't need any more negativity." Amen!

    I hate to see you this pissed, but I definitely understand your anger.

  • well said mister.....

  • Great video Dereck. I agree 100% on everything you just said. It's nice to see you open up and just let it all out. I feel ya man. And of course you would get dislikes on this video, but fuck em. I don't personally know you Dereck, but from watching all your videos you one of the people I respect most in this world. Take it easy brother

    -Marcus

  • no more hurt, enough is enough

  • you are so right brother. i wondered myself what anyone could dislike about your logs. i chalk it up to absolutely nothing. you are a very positive, contributing force for the vinyl community. i think they should say whatever the reason is because it does hurt and is unnecessary. and i agree with the 'fuck you people' retort. excellent as usual.

  • I liked this because I like you and I love your thoughts and music collection and enjoy what you have to say.

  • @plasterofparisify Thank you!

  • Dislikes are great for hate videos. The reason why people "dislike" is the same reason why they make fun of others- it makes them feel better about themselves. 

  • @iammrbeat Truth!

  • I officially love you!

  • @nitsua196 And I love you too.

  • there actually should be more dislikes when you think of how many random drunk buffoons or kids who check out your vid by accident .Some people might just say fuck records and click dislike or whos this black dude and click dislike.So many variables .Just wipe your ass with that!

  • @txteabagger I feel you on that comment and I'm with that!

  • now this is the best insight on this subject that ive hear yet! been around since 2008 and bar none this was needed

  • @BANDWITH5150 Thank you so much for commenting!

  • @dereckvon I found you through an old freind...and im verry gratefull

  • There are lots of us out here who enjoy watching your videos and hearing your thoughts. Don't let a few clowns ruin it for the rest of us.

  • @sirmikael I most certainly won't!

  • The negative folks out there just make me appreciate the positive ones more.

  • @sirmikael Good response and thank you for sharing.

  • The VC is a positive place for us to share something we love. Let's keep it that way.

  • @djcorduroy I agree. I have many mixed feelings since posting this and really felt the need to express it. It appears that the intent is being understood, I have no intention of 'starting something' here.

  • @dereckvon I agree, communication is key, and like you said, if someone has something so say, even if it's negative it should be said. Thanks for nipping a potentially caustic problem in the bud.

  • @djcorduroy And thank you for your support!

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  • @SlimeAmTheBest Not really, wasn't really that cognizant of it.

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  • @GenesisKnights Well thanks for saying something. You have to let me know.

  • Great video!! I wish people would keep the dislikes to themselves. That would be awesome.

  • @kingsdrummer I know it is too much to hope for but I really felt the need to get this out. Thanks for being a part of the VC!

  • Well said. You're definitely right about the link between the dislike button and capitalism. Obviously Google/Youtube uses the dislike button for marketing and to effect people's search results. It also sets up a competitive atmosphere as users compete for views/likes/subscribers/higher placement in search results/etc. and then they tie the money into it for people who agree to have ads in their videos and get revenue from each view. Luckily the VC doesn't play that game.

  • @KoolRanchDressing Amen to that and thank you for speaking on the money trip.

  • What the fuck?

  • @nathanrmorales Word.

  • Great video as always but don't let those shitbags get to you. As you can see, this video has 1 dislike already just to poke at you. Their will always be these cockroaches in life. Just ignore them because they will never last.

    They will be a soulless hole for eternity and you are way above that man.

  • @BluesVinyl I am and we all are above it. I decided to stick my neck out and say how much it bothers me sometimes.

  • @dereckvon Honestly your probably one of the only ones that would stick their neck out and I like to see people with some balls and will stand up for what they believe in. Congrats man

  • @BluesVinyl I appreciate your support very very much!

  • @VINYLxDISORDER Yes! Love it!

  • Finishing my comment, I made a video on the same subject but chose to take it off. Maybe I didn't want anyone to get the satisfaction of my time. In any case your "Fuck You" is refreshing and needed to be said here and out there. Chris

  • @calvear68 Thanks Chris. I messaged you a response because for a while just now comments seemed disabled.

  • Most people in this country and the vc as well can't help quietly insulting your intellect. Be it through a joke or a back- handed compliment. It's just in human nature to poke and prod until you get a response. My experience in the vc has been lukewarm, it's makes me not want to be part of any community. I think when you put yourself out there alot, the so called funny and observant try hard to listen to any little misstep. Jealousy and unoriginal thought are easy to express, I've made a video

  • You speak the truth Dereck! I occasionally get dislikes and it's not nice to see a song you took time to upload have a big red mark of negativity on it. I entirely agree YouTube should only allow dislikes with comments explaining why. I miss the 5 star system; this dislike bar is only asking for trouble. Facebook doesn't have it so why does YouTube! Great video as always.

  • @GeorgeLupine3 Thanks George. Indeed, not everyone can just shake it off and it is seemingly of no value, which is why I felt compelled to finally address its effect on me.

  • Bottom line(and then I'll stop babbling) is that you Dereck of all people have done nothing but bring an immense amount of joy into all of our(the VC) lives by just being you.. The incredibly kind, loving, knowledgeable, personable, genuine, generous, talented, funny, person that you are.. So it's unimaginable and inconceivable that there would be anybody out there that would be rubbed the wrong way by you or have ANYTHING negative to say about you. It's an impossibility. Anyway much love to ya!

  • @fatbackfunk I needed to express the things I expressed.

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  • The dislikes don't come from the VC people, I bet its random people that stumble upon our videos. The more people that watch, the more the chances you will get one, which is a shame, because they have nothing to do with us, and we have nothing to do with them but we share the same space.

    We need to be better then they are, and just ignore them, don't feed the trolls, but your rant is completely in order.

  • @sonicmainliner You are so right and as you will see with my next video, it's business as usual. ;-)

  • **continued** they enjoy fucking with others simply because it makes them feel like they have some kind of power since they were able to make people respond and react . And of course that's drawing attention to them which is yet another thing they crave. So with that I've just learned to just completely disregard and not acknowledge. And I gotta say that's worked for me in the past. The more I responded the more it persisted. I stopped it IT stopped.

  • @fatbackfunk Thank you for the wisdom and I concur. I really needed to do this though.

  • @dereckvon I know you did D.. And that's yet another thing I really like about you.. Which is that you speak & are not afraid to speak your mind and express yourself when you feel it's needed. And I like that you're so genuine and honest about the things that are on your mind and don't hold back. All in all I totally feel ya on all this and loved that you spoke up about it which for me was like a mini-catharsis if you will. But also just wanted 2 offer some thoughts of my own and say FUCK em'!

  • @fatbackfunk I really appreciate you man, so much! Everything you said is so intelligent and on point. Some people could go back to school reading these comments.

  • @dereckvon ah man thank you for the kind words.. And I as well appreciate you for all you bring to the VC. And I just watched your last video (Radiohead remix) so glad to see you're feeling better.. What a great display of the power of music and the effect it can have on an individual. And it was so clear to me from watching your video that Radiohead track was indeed having a very positive effect on you... It's a beautiful thing isn't it? Take care..

  • So what I've come to realize is that with these types of people & specifically in the context of the VC is that it's really not personal or about something they genuinely dislike about you or anyone. Clearly nobody here is doing anything wrong or offensive but rather just having fun and being positive. So that's why to us it's baffling why anyone would dislike or be bothered by what we're doing. BUt again it's not about that, it's about a miserable human being who enjoys fucking with others..

  • I'm right with ya on this brotha Dereck! I also very much dislike the dislike button. 

  • It really is disturbing that people behave like this. And like you, my parents raised me well & I actually do grasp the concept of what common courtesy & respect for others is all about. Which is why when shit like this happens our natural response/reflex is to try to explain the obvious to people, like hey that's not cool, or that's no way to treat people, etc.. In the hopes that maybe they'll come to their senses. But again some people you just can't help.

  • @fatbackfunk So sad but true.

  • Dereck in 2012!

  • i know what your saying. i fill it to when i get down when some one dont like my vid.

    i all ways wont to know why? why dont they like the vids. or is it that there just being a ass. but whatg you said is all right we dont need more hate and stuff in the world there is lots of it and dont need more.

  • @kissarmy110936 That's right. Thanks for commenting.

  • Honestly, you must be doing something right if you get dislikes. I agree with you Dereckvon. Always love your points. People should think things through before they say or do something hurtful.

  • You said it yourself, these people aren't intelligent(clearly). I mean sadly that's just the world we live in. And I can totally relate to it being hurtful and I've been on the receiving end of that bullshit and like yourself attempted to address it & try to understand where these people are coming from in regards to their actions. And that just resulted in more grief & drama. They're miserable people & don't like seeing others so happy & feel compelled to fuck up everybody else's fun.

  • Dereck you know how much I love you man. And I fully understand where you're coming from and your point.. But I honestly don't think these people are misunderstanding what the VC is all about nor do they care.I just think there are some very fucked up people out there that for whatever reason just simply enjoy fucking with people. Attention seekers. They just love getting a rise out of people & are probably enjoying the fact they did get to you right now. There's no rhyme or reason to it.

  • @fatbackfunk Very true unfortunately.

  • i'm feeling everything you said! i think a big part of people push the dislike button is jealousy.

  • @vwgti99 I would tend to agree with you. Good to hear from you!

  • Intelli.. intela... entelljint? What is that word? Don't let this shit get to you Dereck man! You are one of the most heart felt and honest people on here that actually has a lot to say, and is a joy to listen to. Negativity schmegativity. You got nothing to... anonymous dog shit? HAHAHA! Your videos are always perfect for me my man. Actually hearing you cusre your head off, you could drop a few more Fucks here and there. Killer rant Dereck! Keep them coming!

  • so many people are cowards and hit that red thumb down. My take on it is much the same as yours. Who the fuck uses that dislike feature? If you don't like it, then don't fucking watch it, end of story.

    and by the way at 5:45 you crack me up so much and it's so true! Dereck you've hit the nail on the head big time!

  • @bigstar1000 I had to go back and it cracked me up too! Much love and respect to you, my friend!

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  • I totally agree with you Dereck! I also hate it when people think they have to press disike on any video just to bring smthg down. I once hosted some songs I recorded a few years back just to see if people like my music and all I got was thumbs down and disliikes without any comments or reasons why. That was very frustrating and I was hurt and angry bout this shit! I became more insecured than before about my musical talent. and I deleted all these vids quick as I could. GO TO HELL DISLIKERS!

  • @ryanrocks84 I understand and what you went through is total shit. Together we will rise above the ignorance. Thanks for sharing and for being part of the VC.

  • There is a person in this VC that will remain nameless. But there was a comment said in the last 10 seconds of the video that made me so angry that I wanted to confront the person and just ask "what makes you think like this"? But instead, I hold me peace, for now I am a little minority in a sense but it was not by choice and when I hear anything 'hateful' it really makes me ill. This is why I am in school again. I feel like I can make a difference in the future. Dereck, thank you~

    Rob/Boston

  • @Paneeks1960 Respect, Rob. We stand together to make a difference.

  • Dereck, please run for president! Wait, on second thought... forget I said that. Stay right here, man. We need you. Love your honesty. And I agree with your sentiments 100%.

  • @ziptie1969 To the point. Thank you.

  • Brother Dereck preaching the good word! Thank you for saying what everybody else is thinking! The people who dislike just to dislike clearly have nothing better to do with their miserable lives than try to bring other people down. I agree that if you disagree or have a problem with something, let me know. If my camera is out of focus, let me know! If you want to hear about other types of music, let me know! If I can help you, I will or I will lead you to someone who can.

    Great post Dereck!

  • @TheBlackhawkSniper You speak well too. Thanks!

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  • Hi Dereck, You have raised a very valid point and one in which most would agree. I've worked in I.T. for over 25 years and have been on the internet for almost 20 years. I'm still unsure whether the internet and mobile technologies are making the world a better place or if they are just degrading our lives more quickly. They make us far more vulnerable than we may be equipped to understand. Especially those of us of who are a little older and enjoyed happy lives before this all came along.

  • I agree with you Dereck about the major idea behind this video. In my opinion it must be a youngster who didn't feel enough attention when making his own videos, or somekind of a weird frustrated little guy who like spending his days being negative... Anyway, the best thing to do is just to leave it like this I guess, because in my opinion such persons don't even deserve a second of your time or a tiny bit of your attention. Not yours or any other vinyl community member.

  • Dereck you are right. We recorded a video, repeat some times and them wait more 3 hours to be online. We do it for personal pleasure and to share with our friends in VC. Them some assholes without life and friends click in dislike buttom just for their fun. Whats the point? The human world is a crazy place full of stupidity. A big Fuck off for all of them - dislikes persons.

  • @VINYLxDISORDER Yeah, that's what worries me, too, because trolls shouldn't be fed, no matter what... And I also agree with your second point - I can't imagine the 'dislikers' being anybody who actively participates in this community. Don't understand his/her/their motive for following the VC specifically for the sole intent of abusing that dislike button but hey, it's a weird world out there, lots of people having issues, mostly with themselves *shrugs*

    Still, I hear ya, Dereck, completely!

  • @Fritha71 We'll see what happens and if necessary I'll delete this.

  • I enjoyed this rant!

  • amen!

    Dear YouTube... thank you for providing this wonderful medium for the world to connect and enjoy... but please, please, please... change your dislike feature to.... "COMMENT REQUIRED TO DISLIKE A VIDEO"

  • @TheArtistMaster YES!!!

  • You said it all...Nothing to add...Love ya man!

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  • A response is forthcoming....

  • @TheGrecianThunder Bring it!

  • Whats your point.....?hahaha!!!

    The 'like' button is very useful.I check 'recent activity' for who has like various videos.This has brought me to new VC members and new bands.The 'dislike' button serves what purpose?I would really like to know who came up with the idea.I think if you hit the 'dislike' button it should show who dislikes it.It's pointless.

  • @lifesavoid Good to hear from you! It is pointless.

  • ...try and fit the videos around everybody. It's the fact that they watch them just to dislike, hell they don't even watch them, they just dislike! In the words of you and BennyUK I wish they would just shut the fuck up.

  • @JosephODonnellMusic Right on Joseph!

  • Agreed totally!! If someone don't like smthg and is not able to elaborate or explain why......STFU!!! it's as simple as that

  • Well said Dereck, the majority of my videos have one dislike (which I believe are from the same person). I don't care about having a 'clean streak' or having a 100% like ratio. I started my YouTube account because I wanted to be part of this wonderful community, away from the outside world of hate and people who just enjoy being arses. But those damn mother fuckers are even on here too, like you said, if they commented telling us that they don't like are videos for a reason then we could...

  • lol...Dereck that is some of the best venting I've seen in ages. Total respect to you mate

  • I don't get it myself - I see some people on here getting a Dislike on every video they do, and there's never, ever any constructive criticism - doesn't make any sense to me at all....

  • You said it perfectly Dereck! The dislike button is basically a hugely cowardly way of expressing negativity towards other people for no particular reason. I agree if I ran YouTube then I would make it so people who dislike can not be anonymous and have to state a reason. Thanks for speaking out on this. Alex

  • @MrDylanRecords Thank you for speaking too!

  • Well said Dereck! I agree with everything youve said here. Its like ive noticed on the majorite of Joseph's videos there are dislikes byt what it looks as one individual. i mean its not needed, we are here doing are own thing and if people dont like it they shouldnt subscribe and watch it as we cant be dealing with them. Cheers Joe.

  • @Joespencer92 Thank you for commenting and cheers!

  • I've a feeling this isn't going to end well. The baiters now have the ammunition needed to continue their supposed "assault", and it worries me immensely. Peace be upon you.

  • @QuietSundayLibrary I know, it is a slippery slope.

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