My 1 minute sprint is probably about 500 watts - Chris Hoy could probably hold that power for ages. (Actually a roadie like Lance Armstrong or Fabian Cancellara could hold it longer as they are built for endurance).
@supermat87 That makes my 1 minute of around 500 and peak (including arms! on a full body recumbent gym bike) of 909 watts seem pitiful. (I managed to hit 1536 watts on a quarter squat pneumatic rugby training machine for a fraction of a second with carefully chosen resistance. Possibly just below 2000 if the rising of my bodyweight was taken into account.
Would you say a sprinter is different to a marothan distance runner? Course you would. To have specialisations means we arent all on the Sunday morning club-run eh?
He maybe does 59km/h on 1kilometer, but Fabian Cancellara does 50+ on a Time Trial over 40km. And the last 3kms he had an average of 60km/h. Thats way more impressive.
No doubt, Cancellara is awesome - although the kilo is from a standing start (0km/h) so an average speed of 59km/h means he was doing like 65km/h. Also, the 60km/h you mention for Cancellara could have been downhill with a tailwind. The only way to compare them is to have them race each other which will not likely happen since they specialize in different events.
Two entirely different things. The kilo is an all-out sprint from a standing start--which requires a huge amount of power at the outset. By the time you reach the last 200m you're so far into oxygen debt that the lines on the track literally waver and merge in front of you. The longer TTs allow you to get a rhythm and to settle into an anaerobic threshold range. Both brutally hard, but the kilo has a special place in the hell of competitive cycling. Try it, seriously.
You've clearly never ridden a track bike from a dead start. Hoy's average speed over the course of 1km cannot be compare to Cancellara's average speed over the course of 40km. It's apple's and orange's.
I don't think thats correct...your forgetting that Cancellara rides on the "ROAD". meaning there are up hills, down hill, false flats and wind.
If you put Cancellara on the track with Hoy and line them up on opposite sides of the track for a kilo, Cancellara will never beat Hoy. You can't compare 2 different sports. But Cancellara said he wants to try the 1 hour record on the track but again, thats endurance, totally different.
You dont understand what I mean. I never said Cancellara can beat him on kilo which requires high treshold power. I only said I find cancellaras ownage on Time trail on roadrace MORE impressive than hoys way of beating other opponents cause Cancellara beats them hard. And dont try to say this is not the same sport, IT IS THE SAME sport just not the same type of race.
They are not the same sport. They both involve bikes, but they are worlds apart.
Its hard cuz this argument is totaly based off opinion but if your measure of whos better by who beats his opponents by beating them "HARD" you can still say that about Hoy, hes been world champ of Sprint, Keirin, and Team sprint before.
The longer the race the better chance of a bigger gap between riders, on a 1 KM race it doesn't take much to beat his opponents "HARD".
Cycling is cycling, and its a sport. Are you trying to tell us that track race is a different sport? Hoy is a cyclist. A professional cyclist on track race.
When it comes to become the champ on track race and on a 50km world time trail title, I'd say it is way harder to win the world titles on the road. Require alot more of the athlete. Road racing athletes generally are stronger than track racers. But of course they chose differents paths and training methods. And thats all I ever tried to sa
Thats like saying MMA is the same as Muay Thai, there both fighting but different styles. You cant be a Track sprinter one day and switch to road the next. Although End Track has more middle ground.
I guess you are right, but i dont consider myself wrong, it depends how you look at it. you describe it as you hear 2 songs and go they are both house. I like to put songs in sub genres. I would say one is progressive house while the other is tech house.
I could agree with you when you say its harder to become a world champ on the road, it is more popular than track. So it should have more competitors. Id say a world champ from each discipline would probably each train as hard as the other and put out as much effort as the other while racing though.
Youre right too. It was just too many guys misunderstanding the fact that I just simply said Cancellara is more impressive since they all went into the sky after watching this kilo run. However, hoy would crush cancellara even if he went out only 85%. But hoy would never reach up to him on the road.
You doing track race anyway? :) Im road racer, sprinter type.
I used to but I'm to small, all the Keirin guys were to scary for me lol so I'm a road sprinter too now :P
I'm only 19 and last 2 years were bad, stopped training after i turned 18 and started going out all the time and that kind of stuff but I just started talking to my old coach from earlier a few weeks ago and I'm back to training full time. So we will see how I do on the road this year.
Hehe. I just turned 20. I had 2 and a half semiserious seasons earlier but not on winters. I too had a short break when I was 18, and now im focusing on getting in top shape for next season and compete alot. Im fast but I need more stamina! :) good luck to both of us.
Sounds you have a similar problem to me, I don't worry about sprints to much, I just worry about getting to the sprint. Hopefully after this off season it will change.
Exactly, same problem :P Im afraid if the front decides to burst forward that I will lose the tail. But I doubt that. Just make sure to train wisely during this winter season!
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you get no fitness from riding on a velodrome. you only get more experienced. track cyclists and even proffessional mountain bikers train on the road to get stronger. and they are different sports. they both involve bikes, but that doesnt mean theyre the same sport, as a track bike has no brakes, no free wheel, your feet are strapped in, and there are no gears. you would not be able to ride a track bike in a road race, therefore you cant compete agenst road riders, therfor its not th same sport.
Utter crap, ALL track riders train on the road, even BMX riders like Shanaze Reade.
You are confusing 2 different aspects of fitness, road riding builds stamina, track riding builds speed...... the best way for any road rider or time trialist to sharpen their speed is to go on the track, it's a time proven fact. Lack of gears & brakes is completely irrelevant, some of the best track riders have turned their skills to the road, Bradley Wiggins & Chris Boardman are prime examples.
Yeah..... and how fookin awesome is that! Chris Hoy, Jamie Staff, Jason Kenny, Nicole Cooke, Vicky Pendleton, Bradley Wiggins, Shanaze Read....... no one can touch any of them, and that is truly incredible!
GB Cycling has come a long way thanks to Dave Brailsford, and its great that cycling has finally got the media & public recognition it deserves!
the announcers say in the last kilo.. Ive been out of racing for 15 years. What happened to the kilo. Out of the olympics or out of athe world cup as well.?
Yup that is right, The Kilo was dropped from the Olympics so Chris Hoy is not riding it anymore. Concentrating on the Sprint, team sprint and Keirin, to good effect. :-)
omg, did u guys see him catch back that orange dutchman on the second round sprint ? i forgot if its semi or wt . i was so excited. really really really amazed.
jujuju amazing video, the last lap Hoy suffer so much...but is enough the best time and the gold medal, and olimpyc record....incrdible...Tournant cries ...
Anybody know what parts he uses?
chrctrnm 4 months ago
@chrctrnm Thats the million dollar question right there.
SeaRanger311 2 months ago
Man, he must've been on some awesome drugs back then.
stephensthebomb 8 months ago
@stephensthebomb Faggot.
JeDaaRe1 5 months ago
what bars are those?
iareshepherd 10 months ago
My 1 minute sprint is probably about 500 watts - Chris Hoy could probably hold that power for ages. (Actually a roadie like Lance Armstrong or Fabian Cancellara could hold it longer as they are built for endurance).
TimpBizkit 11 months ago
chris hoy lost..stupid hoy
salwanihaidhar 1 year ago
@Juanpavlog probably around a 49-14 maybe bigger
finnrambo1 1 year ago
you take the ferrari, i'll take chris hoy...i'll get there first :D
monkeyboymb 1 year ago
chris hoy vs fabian cancellara
mikacoureurke 1 year ago
I"ll I got to say for these guys is they better fear the day guys like Usain Bolt take up track cycling.
howardjd100 1 year ago
what gear's the dude pushin, anyone know?
Vascillate 1 year ago
@Vascillate like 56-16 i really don't know
Juanpavlog 1 year ago
@Juanpavlog Changes depending on the event, but I know he rode on 51 x 14 for many races.
merrickx 10 months ago
crap
TheAlan94 1 year ago
i can sprint a tenth of a mile until im like, dying. haha, he can do a full kilometer.
xX6jdub9XxaaaA 1 year ago
BOOM BOOM BOOM. Haha. Imma start saying that when I ride out of intersections
marlo916 1 year ago
@marlo916 ahahaha
OllieLikesWalking 1 year ago
must eat more bran flakes
brothermongoose 1 year ago 4
nobody got anything on chris hoy
MsSweetkiddz 1 year ago
I wonder what Hoy's average power output for the event was?
I'm guessing he's pumpin' out over 1000W.
roadracer1593 1 year ago
@roadracer1593 His max wattage on the track is 2483 according to his autobiography.
supermat87 1 year ago 2
@supermat87
Do you know if that's for a very quick burst, or over something like 500m or 1000m?
telkwa 1 year ago
@supermat87 That makes my 1 minute of around 500 and peak (including arms! on a full body recumbent gym bike) of 909 watts seem pitiful. (I managed to hit 1536 watts on a quarter squat pneumatic rugby training machine for a fraction of a second with carefully chosen resistance. Possibly just below 2000 if the rising of my bodyweight was taken into account.
TimpBizkit 11 months ago
Hipster.
johnball235 2 years ago
Piece of shit-ster.
AJ94Acura 2 years ago
clearly no sense of humour..he's haaaardly a hipster.
johnball235 2 years ago
*_*
gugucambe 2 years ago
but can he do barspinzzz?
sharpsandflatts 2 years ago 67
lol =D
GREALDO21 2 years ago
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those riders are so buff..this is far from cycling. in my opinion...
DDGTRST 2 years ago
A lot of the training is certainly off the bike, which is different from every other sport involving cycling.
It does have the feel of a field event posing as a track event, so I see what you mean.
mtb416 2 years ago
Would you say a sprinter is different to a marothan distance runner? Course you would. To have specialisations means we arent all on the Sunday morning club-run eh?
bassdude884 2 years ago
wrong. this is where cycling began.
SmoothSkating 2 years ago
I thought something far from cycling would involve some sort of activity that doesn't require a bike.
SwedishBeatballs 2 years ago
its really difficult to increase your pace in the track in just 1 km on the road if hoy sprint he can reach around 85km/h
kickerstr1 2 years ago
Aero Dynamic =D
mooner7 2 years ago
He maybe does 59km/h on 1kilometer, but Fabian Cancellara does 50+ on a Time Trial over 40km. And the last 3kms he had an average of 60km/h. Thats way more impressive.
Jur0 2 years ago
No doubt, Cancellara is awesome - although the kilo is from a standing start (0km/h) so an average speed of 59km/h means he was doing like 65km/h. Also, the 60km/h you mention for Cancellara could have been downhill with a tailwind. The only way to compare them is to have them race each other which will not likely happen since they specialize in different events.
attilahajdu1 2 years ago
Two entirely different things. The kilo is an all-out sprint from a standing start--which requires a huge amount of power at the outset. By the time you reach the last 200m you're so far into oxygen debt that the lines on the track literally waver and merge in front of you. The longer TTs allow you to get a rhythm and to settle into an anaerobic threshold range. Both brutally hard, but the kilo has a special place in the hell of competitive cycling. Try it, seriously.
Spinervals12345 2 years ago
You've clearly never ridden a track bike from a dead start. Hoy's average speed over the course of 1km cannot be compare to Cancellara's average speed over the course of 40km. It's apple's and orange's.
antiaverage1 2 years ago
I don't think thats correct...your forgetting that Cancellara rides on the "ROAD". meaning there are up hills, down hill, false flats and wind.
If you put Cancellara on the track with Hoy and line them up on opposite sides of the track for a kilo, Cancellara will never beat Hoy. You can't compare 2 different sports. But Cancellara said he wants to try the 1 hour record on the track but again, thats endurance, totally different.
SwedishBeatballs 2 years ago
You dont understand what I mean. I never said Cancellara can beat him on kilo which requires high treshold power. I only said I find cancellaras ownage on Time trail on roadrace MORE impressive than hoys way of beating other opponents cause Cancellara beats them hard. And dont try to say this is not the same sport, IT IS THE SAME sport just not the same type of race.
Jur0 2 years ago
They are not the same sport. They both involve bikes, but they are worlds apart.
Its hard cuz this argument is totaly based off opinion but if your measure of whos better by who beats his opponents by beating them "HARD" you can still say that about Hoy, hes been world champ of Sprint, Keirin, and Team sprint before.
The longer the race the better chance of a bigger gap between riders, on a 1 KM race it doesn't take much to beat his opponents "HARD".
SwedishBeatballs 2 years ago
Cycling is cycling, and its a sport. Are you trying to tell us that track race is a different sport? Hoy is a cyclist. A professional cyclist on track race.
When it comes to become the champ on track race and on a 50km world time trail title, I'd say it is way harder to win the world titles on the road. Require alot more of the athlete. Road racing athletes generally are stronger than track racers. But of course they chose differents paths and training methods. And thats all I ever tried to sa
Jur0 2 years ago
Thats like saying MMA is the same as Muay Thai, there both fighting but different styles. You cant be a Track sprinter one day and switch to road the next. Although End Track has more middle ground.
I guess you are right, but i dont consider myself wrong, it depends how you look at it. you describe it as you hear 2 songs and go they are both house. I like to put songs in sub genres. I would say one is progressive house while the other is tech house.
SwedishBeatballs 2 years ago
I could agree with you when you say its harder to become a world champ on the road, it is more popular than track. So it should have more competitors. Id say a world champ from each discipline would probably each train as hard as the other and put out as much effort as the other while racing though.
So argument done, you win, nice talking to you.
C ya
SwedishBeatballs 2 years ago
Youre right too. It was just too many guys misunderstanding the fact that I just simply said Cancellara is more impressive since they all went into the sky after watching this kilo run. However, hoy would crush cancellara even if he went out only 85%. But hoy would never reach up to him on the road.
You doing track race anyway? :) Im road racer, sprinter type.
Jur0 2 years ago
I used to but I'm to small, all the Keirin guys were to scary for me lol so I'm a road sprinter too now :P
I'm only 19 and last 2 years were bad, stopped training after i turned 18 and started going out all the time and that kind of stuff but I just started talking to my old coach from earlier a few weeks ago and I'm back to training full time. So we will see how I do on the road this year.
SwedishBeatballs 2 years ago
Hehe. I just turned 20. I had 2 and a half semiserious seasons earlier but not on winters. I too had a short break when I was 18, and now im focusing on getting in top shape for next season and compete alot. Im fast but I need more stamina! :) good luck to both of us.
Jur0 2 years ago
Ya definitely, Best of luck to you!
Sounds you have a similar problem to me, I don't worry about sprints to much, I just worry about getting to the sprint. Hopefully after this off season it will change.
SwedishBeatballs 2 years ago
Exactly, same problem :P Im afraid if the front decides to burst forward that I will lose the tail. But I doubt that. Just make sure to train wisely during this winter season!
we might encounter into each other one day :)
Jur0 2 years ago
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you get no fitness from riding on a velodrome. you only get more experienced. track cyclists and even proffessional mountain bikers train on the road to get stronger. and they are different sports. they both involve bikes, but that doesnt mean theyre the same sport, as a track bike has no brakes, no free wheel, your feet are strapped in, and there are no gears. you would not be able to ride a track bike in a road race, therefore you cant compete agenst road riders, therfor its not th same sport.
geofreybros 2 years ago
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people use track bikes in triathlons and cyclocross and still do very well against those with road bikes
natedcruz 2 years ago
Utter crap, ALL track riders train on the road, even BMX riders like Shanaze Reade.
You are confusing 2 different aspects of fitness, road riding builds stamina, track riding builds speed...... the best way for any road rider or time trialist to sharpen their speed is to go on the track, it's a time proven fact. Lack of gears & brakes is completely irrelevant, some of the best track riders have turned their skills to the road, Bradley Wiggins & Chris Boardman are prime examples.
bmk139 2 years ago 5
Damn.. I want those wheels.
Chargespeed66 2 years ago
56 km/h??? jeez
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arox123 2 years ago
I'm addicted to cycling. :-)
Werkaholik261 2 years ago 5
Hoy is fucking awesome theres no one who can match his power .
deadeye012006 3 years ago 46
Yeah..... and how fookin awesome is that! Chris Hoy, Jamie Staff, Jason Kenny, Nicole Cooke, Vicky Pendleton, Bradley Wiggins, Shanaze Read....... no one can touch any of them, and that is truly incredible!
GB Cycling has come a long way thanks to Dave Brailsford, and its great that cycling has finally got the media & public recognition it deserves!
For once I'm proud to be british.
bmk139 3 years ago 3
@deadeye012006 i think power wise boss is better
mekore 1 year ago
@deadeye012006 the world record is two tents faster...
spam420rice 10 months ago
@spam420rice Was it was broken earlier this year by a Aussie :)
SeaRanger311 2 months ago
@deadeye012006 why don't u married him already!!!!!!!!
germanp88 4 months ago
@deadeye012006 Doping.
kasp050b 2 months ago
1:27...
is it common for riders to bike their nose with a water bottle ?
Good vid !
ripousse 3 years ago
lol i think it is in france lol
reesrunner 3 years ago
i meant scratch their nose...
bike their nose, what ?
heeh
ripousse 3 years ago
bmx is still sick though
go australia!
lukew12309 3 years ago
kilo's out of olympics. got replaced with bmx racing. bloody shame...
erikelhammer 3 years ago 3
the announcers say in the last kilo.. Ive been out of racing for 15 years. What happened to the kilo. Out of the olympics or out of athe world cup as well.?
ericslife 3 years ago
i believe he means last one for Chris Hoy
zestCC 3 years ago
Yup that is right, The Kilo was dropped from the Olympics so Chris Hoy is not riding it anymore. Concentrating on the Sprint, team sprint and Keirin, to good effect. :-)
fionnlaghg 3 years ago
'quiet upper body'
the man's built like an aberdeen angus!
johnhpianoman 3 years ago
lol, think he means still.
chrisjamesboyce 3 years ago
As you know, any type of cyclist that rocks is not good and there for taking. But he is a masterclass and a lovely chap.
mikekingphoto 3 years ago
UK wins GOLD!
brittishbully 3 years ago
hát ezt még simsonnal sem érem utól...
dtomi86 3 years ago
nem sok sprinter pályaversenyzőt érnél utol simsonnal:D
meszaandris 3 years ago
well done at the world champs chris.
AB5309 3 years ago
omg, did u guys see him catch back that orange dutchman on the second round sprint ? i forgot if its semi or wt . i was so excited. really really really amazed.
rockis18 3 years ago
chris hoy is the man!
brunch43 4 years ago
met him and got a pic with him =D
axlerules 4 years ago
WOOOOOOO
bar0fsoap 4 years ago
holy...
ichewtoast111 4 years ago
met chris and wiggins at manchester at revolution 16 i think it was and got a foto :)
ridleyorion703a 4 years ago
ive met this legend he is a top bloke
wibberbe04 4 years ago
Thunder thighs himself!!
cderycke 4 years ago
thank you chris!
wullebulle123 4 years ago
Fly my pretties
usernamealredytaken 4 years ago
lol thanks for telling the blind people marian, you fucking noob.
davo6150 4 years ago
jujuju amazing video, the last lap Hoy suffer so much...but is enough the best time and the gold medal, and olimpyc record....incrdible...Tournant cries ...
marianarivera2001 4 years ago