Lyndon B Johnson was suffering from shock? He was a big part of the group of people who had Kennedy assassinated. Listen to Madeleine Brown's interview, she was Johnson's mistress was 21 years and she said how much Johnson hated Kennedy and wanted him dead.
Conspiracy on 22/11/63, conspiracy ever since. If we will never find all the answers, at least do not forget the great leader that he was. The pygmy presidents that came after have never matched the 35th POTUS.
Did you know that LBJ was back in Texas one month after the assassination?
He visited Austen and Dallas. Why was he there? 1/ To see old friends. 2/ To visit a jewelry shop to buy a ring. 3/ To get his hair cut. LBJ was seen sauntering through Austen accompanied by a few Secret Servicemen and followed by a collection of people young and old including a car mechanic, a few children and
a few older people. Those who saw LBJ were amazed by his carefree walk only 4 weeks after JFK's assassination.
You misunderstand. In the eyes of those around him - the Chiefs of Staff, the CIA, etc., etc JFK was soft and liberal. They misread JFK. JFK was neither soft nor liberal as regards the Soviets. If anything he was stronger than those who viewed him as soft etc. But the perception at the time WAS that JFK was not up to the job of being president. JFK reused to play ball with the JCS and the CIA because JFK saw through their treachery. So the JCS and the CIA planned to do away with JFK.
@Mobilecheese yes this point on their misreading of him is plausible, i think thats very true and when he started to meddle in the structure they had built up during and after the war, such as the establishment of the cia, which he tried to dismantle, they were convinced there was only one solution left to them. they had long before decided on assassinating him, i believe as soon as he was nominated at the dnc, the plotting began.
@mikefan09 Agreed!! Assassination was the ultimate sanction which had been there BEFORE JFK even became president. I firmly believe that assassination was 'in the air' even further back than the DNC.
@Mobilecheese ill check out your videos. it all just proves to me that no one who is an outsider to the elite, no one hwo is a real patriot can become president, at least no for long. they only allow their own. sometimes the cabal even goes after its own. they're too powerful.
In my view the seeds for the assassination of JFK (if he became president) were sown way back in the mid 1950s. JFK supported the France out of Algeria. To people in Europe that sounded like madness. What next?The withdrawal of US forces from Europe? JFK's politics made him dangerous in many people's eyes - including LBJ.When the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis happened many felt JFK's reactions were soft and liberal. He had to go before he really did something crazy. That's my view.
@Mobilecheese i think thats a legitimate view and very much part of the problem that was jfk. he was independent, outsider to classic elite & to the long term agenda worldwide for the cold war and plans for america. i think he was nieve, his politics a little impractical & ill conceived. peace with ussr, withdrawal in europe would have ruined the global elite's game. he was dangerous to them, becoz his vision had the people's interests at heart.
@Mobilecheese they painted him as soft and liberal, to them and the people who are propagandised by the elite, he really did look like he was either socialist, or soft on communism, but really it was him defying their plans. they wanted conflict, he said no. they wanted vietnam, he wanted withdrawal. he tried to financially liberate america from the fed and thus the real world ruling system. they had the propaganda against him well suited because the people had no other source of info, unlike..
@Mobilecheese unlike today. the problem i think with kennedy was his goals and ideals were excellent, but his methods were foolish, u cant go out so publically & visibly against such a well organised system of power that is global. he was just one man, powerless really but he thought as president he could overcome them, thinking the military would help him dismantle the cia, thats only 1 enemy, he had the whole worlds powers against him. so your view is correct, but..
@Mobilecheese he wasnt just stumbling over their plans. no, adding to your point he was also aware of the organised secret tyranny over america & was actively working against it with a plan of his own, not just being nievely independent, not actually soft or liberal, becoz he was very strong in defying them i.e: refusing bay of pigs involvement, but becoz he didnt get into war with soviets, they painted him dangerously soft and liberal. he shud have told the people wot he was doing & why.
@mikefan09 I never suggested that JFK was "stumbling" over anything. If you would take more time to read what I write and not to "put words in my mouth" then perhaps we could advance the debate in a civilized and orderly fashion. Can you confirm to me that your first language is English? Is English your mother tongue? Could you please avoid the use of 'shud' and 'wot' and such like inane and illiterate barbarities in your replies to posts by me? The words are 'should' and 'what' respectively.
@Mobilecheese i was adding to your point i dont see why u have become so personally offended by that, i think we should stay focused on the issues and not become bogged down by ego. i liked your point and wanted to further that line of thinking, irrelevant inconsequential details shud not have time wasted on them. who cares about word usage i think the reprecussions for our country from jfk's death are much more important.
@GJJdude "In return, Johnson and Hoover insured that their pals would never be prosecuted for the crime by covering it up and making a "patsy" the assassin"
Let me see if I got this straight? RFK who was the top law enforcement officer of this Nation as AG & who had usurped Jgars control of the FBI, cared so little about who killed his brother that he he had a crying fit that prevented him from investigating the true murderer's of JFK? Wow! Sounds very retarded.
As a special dedication to the slain JFK, President Johnson should have abdicated his own Presidency precisely on November 22, 1967, ceding the US Presidency to vice-President Hubert Humphrey. Also, all Presidents subsequently sworn in on November 22, each four years [exactly] after JFK's assassination, would have been the fitting and appropriate dedication to JFK.
Thinking that LBJ was behind JFK's murder is full of shit. LBJ was one of the most underrated presidents. JFK one of the most overrated. Nothing has been pinned onto LBJ for the murder.
@045781 "Shit for brains" Whatever. You're just deluded. JFK wanted to be a great president. And he....oh wait, that was Johnson who did all the work.
@AlecBoy006 You are so correct! The Ct'er's are "nuts!" ohnson was a gratr presidt than Kennedy.."IF" thre was a conspiracy, Kennedys bough t upon themselves. They were deeply responsible in te murder of foriegn leaders, they were after Castro. The had Marilyn Monroe murdered-sh e was going to rat them out! They stole the elections in Chicago wit the help of their mafia buddies. Something backfired on them. Robet didn't want investigation, he was ascar of what might come out of it!
@AlecBoy006 Google the video "JFK-Case For Conspiracy I" starts getting serious at about 18:00 minutes, when the narration starts. Tell us what you think afterwards.
This truth about RFK’s uninterest in the Warren Commission.
Months before that federal panel presented its conclusion - no later than 12/63 - he had reached the conclusion, relying on his own crack investigators : Oswald, though enamored of Castro, had acted alone and Jack Ruby was a self-appointed vigilante. None of RFK’s bete noires - not Castro, Hoffa or the Mob - had anything to do w/the Dallas murders. Consequently the WC was not going to tell him anything he did not already know.
@045781 Billie Sol Estes : Twice convicted felon and compulsive swindler admits to a Federal judge when sentenced in 1979 : "I have a problem I live in a dream world" . Appears that by accusing LBJ of setting up JFK to be killed by Malcome Wallace that Estes was only interested in getting a FBI interview for publicity because his book 'Billy Sole' was due out . When the FBI sought a second interview Estes begged off .
"When Lyndon arrived they all went into a conference room and you could just feel the atmosphere. When Lyndon came out... he was red in the face... he took my hand and said, 'Those god damned Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That's not a threat. That's a promise!'"
Hey, why did Jackie have a affair with Bobby Kennedy??? Than she married that old pervert...Aritotle, REVENGE, baby...the Kennedys were corrupted as they come...his womanizin, drug use....his involvment with the mafia..you got it!
Jackie never had an affair with RFK. That's revisionist "posthumous assassination" of RFK intended to brainwash younger generations into accepting the coup in '63 & assassination of '68. Jackie married Onassis to ensure security for her children since Ari knew what the Kennedys faced. In 1954, Nixon, as VP, ordered the CIA to assassinate Onassis, who had secured the Jiddah Agreement. You have been victimized by CIA revisionist propaganda intended to discredit the Kennedys & excuse the coup.
Why was Jackie Kennedy standing next to Johnson when he was being sworn in? No need for it. Normally it would have been Lady Bird. Why was she not outraged at her husbands murder? Why did she stay silent? Why did she not seek justice more vigorouly vocally and stridently for the barbaric murder of her husband?
Did she want to get even...to win? Medea.
A scenario as old as humanity. In her case... a man woman deal.
Jackie was in a state of shock and utter despair. Her husband had just been murdered. How dare you suggest Jackie was not outraged! What the hell do you know about it, anyway!? Would you try and be coherent in your comments? This demented babble of yours is totally inappropriate in the circumstances! You should apologize for your insensitive remarks!!
She WAS outraged, you jackass. Jackie stood by LBJ for two reasons. The first was to show the country what they had done, in killing the president. The second reason was to show that she supported the idea of continuity in the presidency.
@mikefan09 Right. But Hoover took JFK (and Bobby) aside and told them if JFK did kick LBJ off the ticket that he (Hoover) would go public on JFK's "extra-curricular" activities..between the sheets. The only reason LBJ was allowed on by Hoover was that there was EVEN there was a contingency plan for JFK's assassination if JFK fucked up. Did you know that LBJ once referred to JFK as 'dangerous'? Dangerous enough for LBJ to take over when JFK was gone. The assassination plans went way back
@Mobilecheese now thats very interesting. i didnt know lbj considered jfk a threat, more of a rival or obstacle i thought, just hated the kennedys. i know the assassination plans went back to at least the dnc nominations. they were blackmailing them even then! please explain this contingency plan u talk about, if jfk fucked up? wot do u mean? jfk was doing good things that they considered fuck ups for their plans, like ridding the fed & opposing israeli nuke ambitions.
@mikefan09 Read James Douglass' Book: JFK And The Unspeakable - Why He died And Why It Matters. By 'JFK fucked up" I mean if JFK did NOT go along with the prearranged plans of the JCS and the CIA. In the eyes of the CIA and JCS any refusal or hesitation on JFK's part to fall in with THEIR plans would be interpreted by THEM - from THEIR point of view as "JFK fucking up." JFK showed the CIA and the JCS that HE was the president and NOT them. Is that clear, now?
@Mobilecheese thanks for the book reference and explanation of your interpretation of jfk fucking up. your thinking is clear now, i dont know how u expect me to read this from your mind when u didnt post it, so how could i read some english u didnt write about?
@mikefan09 You're welcome! I recommend James Douglass' book wholeheartedly. In my humble opinion (Yes. I am capable of humility - sometimes) James Douglass' book is perhaps the best book ever written on the JFK assassination. It goes into great detail on what was happening in the White House and the actual mechanics of the assassination - how it was planned and carried out. Perhaps I was a bit harsh with you. My post WAS rather abstruse.
I apologize for my rash remarks. I value your input.
@Mobilecheese its nothing man. this book seems like just exactly the kind of thing im looking for with an insight into the actual life at the time in the white house so ill check it out, thanks. it seems we have enough evidence to more or less piece together the whole thing, but conclusive proof would be fulfilled if we could finally access congressional secret records, which i think have the whole thing explained, and would have the added persuasive power of officialdom. one day hopefully.
@mikefan09 No problemo! If you ( by that I mean 'anyone' ) want(s) to understand the assassination of JFK you (he/she) need(s) to look at what was happening BEFORE November 22 1963. What happened in Dealey Plaza is mere illusion - smoke and mirrors. Why search for the truth among lies and deception!?? It's not there! It is ELSEWHERE!! See my JFK videos! Hasta la vista!! All the very best to you!! I bid you good day!
Both Johnson and Hoover were about to lose their jobs. Johnson would have had to resign in disgrace, ala Spiro Agnew, and Hoover would be forced to retire in January, 1965.
Johnson and Hoover's pals in Texas made sure that that didn't happen.
In return, Johnson and Hoover insured that their pals would never be prosecuted for the crime by covering it up and making a "patsy" the assassin.
The Warren Commission was appointed to rubber-stamp Hoover's coverup.
check out Howard Hunt's deathbed confession he names LBJ,Chord Meyer,David Morales,Frank Sturgis as the main players.All done with help of the CIA,FBI,Secret Service and Dallas PD.
LBJ suffering from shock?LOL thats a good example of CIA propaganda in our media.LBJ was crooked as hell and this is one of the reasons he had JFK killed.
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(LBJ ... had him killed) ... Right. Based on what? Your mind? (what is frigthening is how truly stupid some people are in this country and they vote!!) You probably believe 9/11 was an inside job as well.
you know. when there is evidence saying it could have been johnson then you cannot exclude johnson. do i believe johnson did it? i think he had a part in it. do i think 9-11 was an inside job? not entirely but there is evidence that says it was. like why bomb dogs were taken off the building 3 weeks before the attack. but again im not going to say it 9-11 was an inside job because i really dont think it was. but the JFK assassination there is no doubt in my mind LBJ had something to do with it
@CVK92 we dont have all the evidence yet, on 9/11, but overtime there is eough evidence to pin lbj to the wall, but hes dead. maybe there will one day be enought evidence to concusively prove 9/11 an inside job, i think so but only partly, as part of a bigger collaboration with an outside enemy working with traitors high up in our government, able to control investigation and our national defence against attack. when the culprits are all dead, the truth will out.
@CVK92 LBJ KNEW What was going to happen. If you watch films (not Zapruder) of the motorcade while everyone else is waving at the crowds LBJ is scanning the high buildings. When the first shots rang out LBJ is lying in a heap in the back of the car almost BEFORE the shots were fired. Take a look at the Altgens photograph on Elm Street. Take a look at the car LBJ was in. Where is LBJ? We can see Ladybird and the other occupants but LBJ is EVEN then cowering totally out of sight! LBJ KNEW!!
@Megoman112 yes. especially when most of the fire and heat energy of the plane explosions went literally out the window. so how could it burn down the building, it's bullshit! the government thinks we'll buy anything, and most people actually arent convinced, but near to half still blindly believe and trust govt. it was a cia/mossad op with some use of private demolitions corp and official cover with help of cheney and bush
Lyndon B Johnson was suffering from shock? He was a big part of the group of people who had Kennedy assassinated. Listen to Madeleine Brown's interview, she was Johnson's mistress was 21 years and she said how much Johnson hated Kennedy and wanted him dead.
belindabell2 3 months ago
Conspiracy on 22/11/63, conspiracy ever since. If we will never find all the answers, at least do not forget the great leader that he was. The pygmy presidents that came after have never matched the 35th POTUS.
jeewasan 7 months ago
Did you know that LBJ was back in Texas one month after the assassination?
He visited Austen and Dallas. Why was he there? 1/ To see old friends. 2/ To visit a jewelry shop to buy a ring. 3/ To get his hair cut. LBJ was seen sauntering through Austen accompanied by a few Secret Servicemen and followed by a collection of people young and old including a car mechanic, a few children and
a few older people. Those who saw LBJ were amazed by his carefree walk only 4 weeks after JFK's assassination.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese Austin Texas
In the words of James Hosty: I should have known better......I should have known better......." LOL
Mobilecheese 1 year ago 2
You misunderstand. In the eyes of those around him - the Chiefs of Staff, the CIA, etc., etc JFK was soft and liberal. They misread JFK. JFK was neither soft nor liberal as regards the Soviets. If anything he was stronger than those who viewed him as soft etc. But the perception at the time WAS that JFK was not up to the job of being president. JFK reused to play ball with the JCS and the CIA because JFK saw through their treachery. So the JCS and the CIA planned to do away with JFK.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
JFK "refused" to play ball.....
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese yes this point on their misreading of him is plausible, i think thats very true and when he started to meddle in the structure they had built up during and after the war, such as the establishment of the cia, which he tried to dismantle, they were convinced there was only one solution left to them. they had long before decided on assassinating him, i believe as soon as he was nominated at the dnc, the plotting began.
mikefan09 1 year ago
@mikefan09 Agreed!! Assassination was the ultimate sanction which had been there BEFORE JFK even became president. I firmly believe that assassination was 'in the air' even further back than the DNC.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese ill check out your videos. it all just proves to me that no one who is an outsider to the elite, no one hwo is a real patriot can become president, at least no for long. they only allow their own. sometimes the cabal even goes after its own. they're too powerful.
mikefan09 1 year ago
In my view the seeds for the assassination of JFK (if he became president) were sown way back in the mid 1950s. JFK supported the France out of Algeria. To people in Europe that sounded like madness. What next?The withdrawal of US forces from Europe? JFK's politics made him dangerous in many people's eyes - including LBJ.When the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis happened many felt JFK's reactions were soft and liberal. He had to go before he really did something crazy. That's my view.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese i think thats a legitimate view and very much part of the problem that was jfk. he was independent, outsider to classic elite & to the long term agenda worldwide for the cold war and plans for america. i think he was nieve, his politics a little impractical & ill conceived. peace with ussr, withdrawal in europe would have ruined the global elite's game. he was dangerous to them, becoz his vision had the people's interests at heart.
mikefan09 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese they painted him as soft and liberal, to them and the people who are propagandised by the elite, he really did look like he was either socialist, or soft on communism, but really it was him defying their plans. they wanted conflict, he said no. they wanted vietnam, he wanted withdrawal. he tried to financially liberate america from the fed and thus the real world ruling system. they had the propaganda against him well suited because the people had no other source of info, unlike..
mikefan09 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese unlike today. the problem i think with kennedy was his goals and ideals were excellent, but his methods were foolish, u cant go out so publically & visibly against such a well organised system of power that is global. he was just one man, powerless really but he thought as president he could overcome them, thinking the military would help him dismantle the cia, thats only 1 enemy, he had the whole worlds powers against him. so your view is correct, but..
mikefan09 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese he wasnt just stumbling over their plans. no, adding to your point he was also aware of the organised secret tyranny over america & was actively working against it with a plan of his own, not just being nievely independent, not actually soft or liberal, becoz he was very strong in defying them i.e: refusing bay of pigs involvement, but becoz he didnt get into war with soviets, they painted him dangerously soft and liberal. he shud have told the people wot he was doing & why.
mikefan09 1 year ago
@mikefan09 I never suggested that JFK was "stumbling" over anything. If you would take more time to read what I write and not to "put words in my mouth" then perhaps we could advance the debate in a civilized and orderly fashion. Can you confirm to me that your first language is English? Is English your mother tongue? Could you please avoid the use of 'shud' and 'wot' and such like inane and illiterate barbarities in your replies to posts by me? The words are 'should' and 'what' respectively.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese i was adding to your point i dont see why u have become so personally offended by that, i think we should stay focused on the issues and not become bogged down by ego. i liked your point and wanted to further that line of thinking, irrelevant inconsequential details shud not have time wasted on them. who cares about word usage i think the reprecussions for our country from jfk's death are much more important.
mikefan09 1 year ago
nice move on keeping silent councellor! he got the evidence, but now the killer was president, aint much happening to him now.
mikefan09 1 year ago
LBJ was BEHIND IT. nO ONE ELSE HAD THE POWER TO COVER IT UP.
m4assaultcorps 1 year ago
@m4assaultcorps hell yes!
mikefan09 1 year ago
@GJJdude "In return, Johnson and Hoover insured that their pals would never be prosecuted for the crime by covering it up and making a "patsy" the assassin"
Let me see if I got this straight? RFK who was the top law enforcement officer of this Nation as AG & who had usurped Jgars control of the FBI, cared so little about who killed his brother that he he had a crying fit that prevented him from investigating the true murderer's of JFK? Wow! Sounds very retarded.
auther1046 1 year ago
johnson was a bad mf who lived by the dictum - keep your friends close and your enemies in the ground
reefergladness 1 year ago
As a special dedication to the slain JFK, President Johnson should have abdicated his own Presidency precisely on November 22, 1967, ceding the US Presidency to vice-President Hubert Humphrey. Also, all Presidents subsequently sworn in on November 22, each four years [exactly] after JFK's assassination, would have been the fitting and appropriate dedication to JFK.
Richardhedditch261 2 years ago
jesus youd think theyd get a better person to speak for that guy haha sounds like a fuckin frog!
Lauzon12 2 years ago
Thinking that LBJ was behind JFK's murder is full of shit. LBJ was one of the most underrated presidents. JFK one of the most overrated. Nothing has been pinned onto LBJ for the murder.
AlecBoy006 2 years ago
@AlecBoy006
" Nothing has been pinned onto LBJ for the murder."
Billy Sol Estes pinned the murder on Johnson and so did Johnsons mistress as well as retired CIA agent Hunt
045781 1 year ago
@045781 Proof? Or it didn't happen. Nothing has been pinned on the man you wacky internet conspiracy theorist
AlecBoy006 1 year ago
@AlecBoy006
Also why did Johnson order the Limo stripped and rebuilt?
If he wanted to solve the crime he should not have done that.
Got that Shit for Brains.....
045781 1 year ago
@045781 "Shit for brains" Whatever. You're just deluded. JFK wanted to be a great president. And he....oh wait, that was Johnson who did all the work.
AlecBoy006 1 year ago
@AlecBoy006 "oh wait, that was Johnson who did all the work"
Johnson had a ton of work to do after ordering the killing, like the cover-up, start a major war and make millions of dollars from that war.
Yep he was doing the devils work.....
045781 1 year ago
@AlecBoy006
steveforsane 1 year ago
@AlecBoy006 You are so correct! The Ct'er's are "nuts!" ohnson was a gratr presidt than Kennedy.."IF" thre was a conspiracy, Kennedys bough t upon themselves. They were deeply responsible in te murder of foriegn leaders, they were after Castro. The had Marilyn Monroe murdered-sh e was going to rat them out! They stole the elections in Chicago wit the help of their mafia buddies. Something backfired on them. Robet didn't want investigation, he was ascar of what might come out of it!
steveforsane 1 year ago
@steveforsane
learn to spell fuckhead
m4assaultcorps 1 year ago
@AlecBoy006 Google the video "JFK-Case For Conspiracy I" starts getting serious at about 18:00 minutes, when the narration starts. Tell us what you think afterwards.
sargoth37 1 year ago
This truth about RFK’s uninterest in the Warren Commission.
Months before that federal panel presented its conclusion - no later than 12/63 - he had reached the conclusion, relying on his own crack investigators : Oswald, though enamored of Castro, had acted alone and Jack Ruby was a self-appointed vigilante. None of RFK’s bete noires - not Castro, Hoffa or the Mob - had anything to do w/the Dallas murders. Consequently the WC was not going to tell him anything he did not already know.
auther1046 1 year ago
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@045781 Billie Sol Estes : Twice convicted felon and compulsive swindler admits to a Federal judge when sentenced in 1979 : "I have a problem I live in a dream world" . Appears that by accusing LBJ of setting up JFK to be killed by Malcome Wallace that Estes was only interested in getting a FBI interview for publicity because his book 'Billy Sole' was due out . When the FBI sought a second interview Estes begged off .
auther1046 1 year ago
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"When Lyndon arrived they all went into a conference room and you could just feel the atmosphere. When Lyndon came out... he was red in the face... he took my hand and said, 'Those god damned Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That's not a threat. That's a promise!'"
045781 2 years ago
its amazing to see how many morons can type!
CanadianDominion 2 years ago
poeple dont forget to use your bull#$% filter! what sounds credible, and what sounds a little too extreme.
Charon4201 2 years ago
Hey, why did Jackie have a affair with Bobby Kennedy??? Than she married that old pervert...Aritotle, REVENGE, baby...the Kennedys were corrupted as they come...his womanizin, drug use....his involvment with the mafia..you got it!
steveforsane 2 years ago
Jackie never had an affair with RFK. That's revisionist "posthumous assassination" of RFK intended to brainwash younger generations into accepting the coup in '63 & assassination of '68. Jackie married Onassis to ensure security for her children since Ari knew what the Kennedys faced. In 1954, Nixon, as VP, ordered the CIA to assassinate Onassis, who had secured the Jiddah Agreement. You have been victimized by CIA revisionist propaganda intended to discredit the Kennedys & excuse the coup.
WALRU11 2 years ago
lbj was only shocked at how gullible folks were to accepting what just transpired.
AvEryBadApPLe 2 years ago
Interesting!
mia0899cs 2 years ago
JFK and RFK knew LBJ was a rattlesnake but not to to this extent (not to this end).
ROYNEPTUNE 2 years ago 3
You know what? If LBJ had been impeached, 58,000 soldiers wouldn't have died for nothing, in Vietnam.
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago 3
lbj was going to do the fucking around the white house for now on
john19712 2 years ago
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Why was Jackie Kennedy standing next to Johnson when he was being sworn in? No need for it. Normally it would have been Lady Bird. Why was she not outraged at her husbands murder? Why did she stay silent? Why did she not seek justice more vigorouly vocally and stridently for the barbaric murder of her husband?
Did she want to get even...to win? Medea.
A scenario as old as humanity. In her case... a man woman deal.
No cooperation from Jackie no assasinaton of JFK.
lblmer 3 years ago
Jackie was in a state of shock and utter despair. Her husband had just been murdered. How dare you suggest Jackie was not outraged! What the hell do you know about it, anyway!? Would you try and be coherent in your comments? This demented babble of yours is totally inappropriate in the circumstances! You should apologize for your insensitive remarks!!
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 3
She WAS outraged, you jackass. Jackie stood by LBJ for two reasons. The first was to show the country what they had done, in killing the president. The second reason was to show that she supported the idea of continuity in the presidency.
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago
Did JFK not know what a rattle snake LBJ really was?
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 6
Yep. He only took him on to get the southern vote plus LBJ kinda forced his way on the ticket.
clayp72 3 years ago 3
@Mobilecheese sure he did, he was gonna kick him off the ticket for 1964, but lbj got to him first.
mikefan09 1 year ago
@mikefan09 Right. But Hoover took JFK (and Bobby) aside and told them if JFK did kick LBJ off the ticket that he (Hoover) would go public on JFK's "extra-curricular" activities..between the sheets. The only reason LBJ was allowed on by Hoover was that there was EVEN there was a contingency plan for JFK's assassination if JFK fucked up. Did you know that LBJ once referred to JFK as 'dangerous'? Dangerous enough for LBJ to take over when JFK was gone. The assassination plans went way back
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese now thats very interesting. i didnt know lbj considered jfk a threat, more of a rival or obstacle i thought, just hated the kennedys. i know the assassination plans went back to at least the dnc nominations. they were blackmailing them even then! please explain this contingency plan u talk about, if jfk fucked up? wot do u mean? jfk was doing good things that they considered fuck ups for their plans, like ridding the fed & opposing israeli nuke ambitions.
mikefan09 1 year ago
@mikefan09 Read James Douglass' Book: JFK And The Unspeakable - Why He died And Why It Matters. By 'JFK fucked up" I mean if JFK did NOT go along with the prearranged plans of the JCS and the CIA. In the eyes of the CIA and JCS any refusal or hesitation on JFK's part to fall in with THEIR plans would be interpreted by THEM - from THEIR point of view as "JFK fucking up." JFK showed the CIA and the JCS that HE was the president and NOT them. Is that clear, now?
Do you have problems with English?
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese thanks for the book reference and explanation of your interpretation of jfk fucking up. your thinking is clear now, i dont know how u expect me to read this from your mind when u didnt post it, so how could i read some english u didnt write about?
mikefan09 1 year ago
@mikefan09 You're welcome! I recommend James Douglass' book wholeheartedly. In my humble opinion (Yes. I am capable of humility - sometimes) James Douglass' book is perhaps the best book ever written on the JFK assassination. It goes into great detail on what was happening in the White House and the actual mechanics of the assassination - how it was planned and carried out. Perhaps I was a bit harsh with you. My post WAS rather abstruse.
I apologize for my rash remarks. I value your input.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese its nothing man. this book seems like just exactly the kind of thing im looking for with an insight into the actual life at the time in the white house so ill check it out, thanks. it seems we have enough evidence to more or less piece together the whole thing, but conclusive proof would be fulfilled if we could finally access congressional secret records, which i think have the whole thing explained, and would have the added persuasive power of officialdom. one day hopefully.
mikefan09 1 year ago
@mikefan09 No problemo! If you ( by that I mean 'anyone' ) want(s) to understand the assassination of JFK you (he/she) need(s) to look at what was happening BEFORE November 22 1963. What happened in Dealey Plaza is mere illusion - smoke and mirrors. Why search for the truth among lies and deception!?? It's not there! It is ELSEWHERE!! See my JFK videos! Hasta la vista!! All the very best to you!! I bid you good day!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
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Nice Republican/Loony left collaboration on this propaganda piece.
esb84 3 years ago
What documentary is this taken from?
Thanks,
C.
centen1963 3 years ago
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Both Johnson and Hoover were about to lose their jobs. Johnson would have had to resign in disgrace, ala Spiro Agnew, and Hoover would be forced to retire in January, 1965.
Johnson and Hoover's pals in Texas made sure that that didn't happen.
In return, Johnson and Hoover insured that their pals would never be prosecuted for the crime by covering it up and making a "patsy" the assassin.
The Warren Commission was appointed to rubber-stamp Hoover's coverup.
GJJdude 3 years ago 6
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nadermatrixs 3 years ago 3
check out Howard Hunt's deathbed confession he names LBJ,Chord Meyer,David Morales,Frank Sturgis as the main players.All done with help of the CIA,FBI,Secret Service and Dallas PD.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 4
notice LBJ getting a wink and a smile from Albert Thomas after he is sworn in?
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 3
Why's Albert smiling? Is this a happy ocassion?
moichidomoichido 3 years ago 3
sure they're happy, JFK just got murdered
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 4
LBJ suffering from shock?LOL thats a good example of CIA propaganda in our media.LBJ was crooked as hell and this is one of the reasons he had JFK killed.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 4
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(LBJ ... had him killed) ... Right. Based on what? Your mind? (what is frigthening is how truly stupid some people are in this country and they vote!!) You probably believe 9/11 was an inside job as well.
plainblues 3 years ago
you know. when there is evidence saying it could have been johnson then you cannot exclude johnson. do i believe johnson did it? i think he had a part in it. do i think 9-11 was an inside job? not entirely but there is evidence that says it was. like why bomb dogs were taken off the building 3 weeks before the attack. but again im not going to say it 9-11 was an inside job because i really dont think it was. but the JFK assassination there is no doubt in my mind LBJ had something to do with it
CVK92 3 years ago 6
@CVK92 we dont have all the evidence yet, on 9/11, but overtime there is eough evidence to pin lbj to the wall, but hes dead. maybe there will one day be enought evidence to concusively prove 9/11 an inside job, i think so but only partly, as part of a bigger collaboration with an outside enemy working with traitors high up in our government, able to control investigation and our national defence against attack. when the culprits are all dead, the truth will out.
mikefan09 1 year ago
@CVK92 LBJ KNEW What was going to happen. If you watch films (not Zapruder) of the motorcade while everyone else is waving at the crowds LBJ is scanning the high buildings. When the first shots rang out LBJ is lying in a heap in the back of the car almost BEFORE the shots were fired. Take a look at the Altgens photograph on Elm Street. Take a look at the car LBJ was in. Where is LBJ? We can see Ladybird and the other occupants but LBJ is EVEN then cowering totally out of sight! LBJ KNEW!!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@CVK92 Of course 9-11 was an inside job!
They had to get INSIDE the buildings to blow them up!! Didn't they??
It seems pretty obvious to me.
Megoman112 1 year ago 8
@Megoman112 yes. especially when most of the fire and heat energy of the plane explosions went literally out the window. so how could it burn down the building, it's bullshit! the government thinks we'll buy anything, and most people actually arent convinced, but near to half still blindly believe and trust govt. it was a cia/mossad op with some use of private demolitions corp and official cover with help of cheney and bush
mikefan09 1 year ago
@Megoman112 I dont even remember what i was talking about, but i think there is the possibility of 9-11 being an inside job, yes.
CVK92 1 year ago
dude don reynolds is my music teacher!!
freebird983 4 years ago
What is this from?
causticink 4 years ago