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  • FAITH IS STUPID! FAITH IS LIKE A GAME OF CHANCE! THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING! MOST PEOPLE LEAVE CHURCH, HEALING CRUSADES AND REVIVALS THE SAME WAY THAT THEY CAME ANYWAY! FAITH JUST LEADS TO MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT!!!!

  • Good on ya mate! Right on target. When I was in church on Sunday someone said the same thing to me, "You're gonna walk, and I wanna be right there to help you do it." You're right. God is not a healer. Congratulations for your boldness!

  • @funny20171 Thanks!

  • You are exactly right man. The holy rollers know it's a lie. They're just afraid to face the awful truth, that there is no magic space daddy to care of us all.

  • @whoopiman Thank you!

  • @whoopiman I totally agree! I've not been able to walk for my whole life from birth. This man is right on target. How do I get in touch with him?

  • @funny20171 Just message me on this channel.

  • @rkzenrage Ok, thanks alot!

  • (continued)

    Regarding the "not enough faith" argument-- most seasoned Christians won't give you that one.

    I forgot to mention before that in addition to no shortage of corruption in the church, there's no shortage of lunacy either.

    Oh, I forgot another healed paralytic-- "Marlene Kleepes"

    To close, I affirm that the greatest miracle really is the salvation of the soul.

  • (continued)

    Whether part of the Atonement or the "gift of healing" (1 Corinthians chapter 12) or simply answered prayer as in the parable of the persistent widow, I know that verifiable cases do occur. I can only speculate why they are not always a miracle on the spot for everyone.

    I am going to break one of my little rules here by venturing into logic as it applies to faith.

    {Given that I am not omnicient, then if there is an omnicient god, He may do things that I don't understand.}

  • (continued)

    Amputee gets leg back:

    Google "Miracle of Calanda" and give it a good think. There are more recent purports from the Protestant church but they are not so well substantiated so I won't bother.

    For more healed paralytics try googling "Art Sanborn" "William A Kent" or "Richard Tester" along with a keyword like walks/healed.

    I have studied Bible/Christian lit for years and still am undecided as to whether healing is really part of the atonement. (continued)

  • Paraplegic walks:

    Do youtube and google searches for "Delia Knox" and give it a good think.

  • @mustspeak THAT WAS A COMPLETE HOAX RIGHT THERE! HER LEGS JUST NEEDED TO BE STRETCHED AFTER SITTING FOR SO LONG! SHE HAD WHAT YOU CALL LIMB CRAMP! A HUGE FAKE! SELAH!

  • As a Pentecostal Christian, I can certainly agree that there is no shortage of corruption in the church. But there was also corruption among Old Testament priests, plus I suspect the dovesellers and the moneychangers were doing something wrong or Jesus wouldn't have whipped them and accused them of making God's temple a "den of thieves". I guess not much has changed...

    I am responding to your request for a documented case of a full para or amputee being healed.

    (continued in next post)

  • evil is in this world because of people..same with terrorism..my fiance is over in iraq fighting for our freedom NOT because of god, but because of evil people..the earth is a learning place and people handle it different ways

  • @stephaliciousoxo I wish the best for you and your husband. I disagree with the war and support our troops all the more for it. I hope he is home soon.

  • My precious Lord Jesus has not healed me yet but He is with me and my greatest Lover...it is the world that is a lie :( He Loves me and will heal me and I know He Loves you also-I am so sorry for what ever hurts this world has caused u-big hugs to u through me from Jesus our greatest Lover-He reaches down into hell to get us-that is how much He Loves us all so much-please do not let the lies of this world kill steal and destroy u from our greatest Love-God-we get to be with Him 4ever <3<3<3

  • He's real

  • @kdez3 Then he's evil.

  • The Lord God does heal, i've seen it myself....not everyone gets healed physically.....only the Lord God can answer why.

    That does'nt mean that he's not good...his very nature is holy

  • @sixpenny1

    Show me where god has regrown an arm from the shoulder or a leg from the knee down. Go.

  • @Xamaza Exactly.

  • The paragraph I refer to states that God, in the Christian faith, is a jealous god. Interesting huh? It says you shall not worship or fear or place any other god above him due to his jealousy! If you do so, he will bring your sin upon your children and 2 generations to follow. How very Christian of him!!!!!!! I rest my case, what kind of !all forgiving" god is that?

    Answers on a postcard please!!!!!!

  • I was in a very old church yesterday in Hawkshead in England. It's the church in the village where William Wordsworth was educated. There is an inscription on the wall beside the alter and it gives an insight into, what I believe is the reason for religion. It's only purpose is to control the masses. The inscription was the 10 commandments, and in particular, the paragraph that comes just before them, it states the reasons for following the 10 commandments. Please read the follwing post.

  • I'm with you. I won't say that I don't believe cos, if anybody can give me the evidence, I WILL believe. In the absence of any proof I just live my life in the right way. I don't offend, hurt, mistreat or harm people. I will do a good turn for somebody but I won't do a bad one. If heaven is there and there is a god to judge me when my time comes, he will see that I have lived in a good way and he will let me in. If he can't see that it's his loss and not mine.

  • Oh so that's the disability you were referring to, you're paralyzed? I'm

    very sorry to hear this,but I admire

    you, for making the best of everything

    with the abilities you do have,and not

    feeling sorry for yourself.

  • @CocaCola983 Thank you.

  • Where's the proof? Look how good we have it all. Next you'll say.. fuck it.

    Let's say everyone gets used to life as it is. We alway's want better, we never get satisfied.. because the green is alway's better at your neighbours house. Maybe.. she starts to cry.. and I wonder how can they life with themselves.

    You know what. Proof.. a nice word for atheists whom don't believe. They like the proof.. but without faith they can't place it. Because its faith.. that makes proof worthy.

  • God heals.

  • Sorry.. God also kills.

    It's just a nice thing to say.

    You atheists think you can solve the unemployment problem... when we all stop working. No work, no unemployment.. that all started when one guy or woman started to invent it.

  • There's the proof for atheists.

    On the other side you got people with faith.

    First you have to believe.. than you can make proof or get proof.

  • @Brulluhman Wow... that was hilarious.

    Nope, my atheism does not inform my ideas on social policy beyond there should be complete separation of church and state.

    As for unemployment, flat tax.

  • @Brulluhman Show me the evidence.

  • @Brulluhman Evidence?

  • @rkzenrage "just walk out into the back yard and "believe" yourself there... that is the faith way. See how far it gets ya"

    That is what drives people. Believe - action - result or evidence. People go from abstract to realisation.

  • Faith= belief in, devotion to, or trust in somebody or something, especially without logical proof.

    Proof= evidence or an argument that serves to establish a fact or the truth of something.

    Faith is not truth proof is.

  • People who have faith are a little bit nuts.

    But ever heard of selfforthfilling prophecy.

    That's when you believe in something and that something becomes the truth.

    Maybe you say it's not all there for you, You just have to have faith.

  • Yes I have heard of Self-Fulfilling Prophecy but what does that have to do with the Definition of Faith and Proof?

    I prefer not to have blind faith because that leads to thing like the Crusades and Inquisition, and causes men to follow Monsters like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and George W. Bush.

  • More with creation and change.

    People flew to the moon with blind faith.

    Or... sailed around the world when it was still flat.

    If all scientists tell you that the world is flat. That crew of Columbus must have thought that they were on a suicide mission and that they would have fallen off. So you have good things and bad things with blind faith.

    For instance.. where do you live? Canada Discovered with blind faith.

  • Only Europeans thought the world was flat and once they had learn from older cultures that it wasnt then the tried to sailed around it. Canada was not discovered my Columbus but by Vikings who followed ancient fishing roots and island hope not blind faith.

    Man went to the moon only after years of tests and experiment not blind faith even Centuries if you Count the attempts by Indians and the Chinese. Not Blind Faith

  • @pranays Myth,

    Europeans knew the world was round.

    Tell me, what shape was Columbus' globe?

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  • @rkzenrage Dumb ass that was not until 1492 read the Comments before making stupid remark.

    I was NOT talking about Europeans thinking the earth was flat but stupid Christians.

    The Vikings and Greeks were European and they knew the world was round.

    Read before you make comment or improve you Comprehension skills moron.

  • Also lots of scientists in Europe thought the world was Round long before Columbus but were charged with heresy for it, the Egyptians, Indians, Sumerian, Chinese and Japanese ect. all New the world was round by watching the stars. Only the Church was pushing and enforcing the flat earth story.

  • In fact the Flat Earth Theory was first introduced in the 4th century BCE in Greece when Greek scholars were trying to Decode Globe projections which are similar to how we project the world on a map today. More like lack of education or blind faith in a Greece scholars intellect.

  • Thats why ancients structures around the world were built with the earths Circumference encode in them like the pyramids in Egypt and South America, the Temples in India, Samaria, Cambodia, and Japan; even in Megalithic construction in Europe.

  • @Brulluhman We did not go to the moon on blind faith, EVERY aspect of going was measured, tested and retried. We went to the moon with science, evidence, math and geometry.

    If you want to go to the moon on faith just walk out into the back yard and "believe" yourself there... that is the faith way. See how far it gets ya.

  • Im not an atheist I just believe in a religion that actually has all the thing we are discovering now written in text around 15,000-20,000 years ago and they already knew all the planets and allot of the things that Science is now learning or learned since the20th Century.

  • I just dont have blind faith; I like my faith to be proven by reality not have to discount Dinosaurs, Cave Men and shrink the earths age to 6,000-10,000; denies Science and history. If my faith contradicted these facts I would go back to being an Atheist which I was all through high school till a few years after the Army.

  • Yeah, that is why their life expectancy was half of what ours is... riiiiight.

  • @Brulluhman WTF was that jibberish?

  • Right on! Religious people are the ones that need to be healed in the head. All we can do is plant some seeds and hope some cool atheistic flowers grow.

    Keep on doing what you're doing :)

  • @PopularAtheist Thank you!

  • They prey, not pray, upon the weak!

  • This isn't the documentary you mention in the sidebar but great nonetheless.

    Originally a 1999 HBO special.

    A Question of Miracles - Faith Healing 1/6

    watch?v=TEvHflzKStU

    parts 5 & 6 explain the psychology of how people come to believe in this crap. very interesting

  • @justintempler Thanks, I'll check it out.

  • @justintempler Thanks, I'll check it out.

  • People should not even try to explain God. The fact is that nobody not even the most inteligent knows nothing about who is that supreme inteligence who created everything.All religions were created by man in order to please that creator.All commands and orders on how tu please and obey Him were created following the ideas of the people at an specific time in history. Instead of God creating the man to his image,the man created God to their image.The fact is that we do not know why we are here.

  • If god healed people, and all it took was faith, why would you have to go anywhere? Suckers.

  • They are also called sheeple

  • Rkzenrage,

    good video, as most have us have come to expect from you :)

    ignore the religious ignoramus that post here, imo, let our negative thumbs push them back down where they belong.

  • Thanks for the great comment! I really appreciate it!

  • What really amazes me is how people can be suffering from a certain ailment and if suddenly the problem is gone they are ready to jump to the supernatural when doctors don't know. If people heard a radio transmission 500 years ago would they think it was god? Just because medical science does not know now does not mean they will never know. Nor does it prove god heals. If I pray for a cheeseburger and then I receive one does not mean god grants cheeseburgers. It means cheeseburgers happen.

  • Also, notice where you see the most hate comments here. It is from the religious people here. I guess if you believe their god is fake that makes you scum that deserves all kinds of bad things. So with that said, what is more dangerous Christianity or Atheism? I had a chronic problem in my back that made my life miserable then one day it went away. I did not pray nor was I prayed for. since I told no one else. I guess god heals when you don't ask, but ignores the majority of those who do.

  • Then it does not matter.

  • does this seem familar?

    sick person:god loves me and god is going cure me from my INSERT DISEASE HERE!

    atheist:if god loves you so much why did he give you INSERT DISEASE HERE in first place?

    sick person:hey yea!

    christian:god works in mysterious ways and sometimes he tests our faith in him!

    athiest:(to sick person) well good luck man i hope you don't fail (leaves)

  • Now that was dumb. Still no evidence.

    Do these stories help you feel safe? Do these stories help you believe that there is a god as your parents taught you?

    Silly , very silly. Or should I say fool.

  • and your house got foreclosed because you didn't have enough money i would say "you just need to trust that the almight milk jug knows what is really best for you. now replace me with a christian and the almight milk jug with the almight god does all this look any different?

  • But people don't believe in "almight milk jug", so your argument falls apart fairly quickly.

  • i know that it is suppose to repersent how god is said to answer prayer with yes,no, and wait because no matter what happens god seem to win i got this from a video called The Best Optical Illusion in the World by GIIVideo please watch it along with 10 Questions That Every Intelligent Christian Must Answer

  • "see the almight milk jug heard your prayer" (yes) now lets say instead a few weeks past and nothing happen you come and ask me what taking so long i would say "it's ok just wait patiently for the milk jug a few days later you get check for $1200 from some insurance company i would say "you see the almight milk jug answer your prayer you just have to wait patiently for it" (wait) now instead lets say almost 6 months have past and nothing has happen you didn't get any money

  • you are soooo right but i didn't know that people had to pay the church to do this where in the bible it say that! power corrupts that's all there is to it. the church say god answer prayer one of three ways yes,no,and wait (i got this another video) so lets say i asked you to pray to a milk jug for a $1000 would you do it? you most likely will not but just for the heck of it lets say you did anyway. a few days past and you a refund check in the mail for $1100 from the IRS i would say

  • say didn't jesus say that if you have faith the size of a mustard seed you could move mountians i know christians who have way more faith than that and strangely bad things still happen to them

  • Faith doesn't mean that nothing bad will happen to you; that is the way of the world. No wonder so many former Christians are disappointed; they never really understood what faith and religion are about.

  • I was in a nasty work accident and got crushed by some steel. I deal with chronic pain on a daily basis. Real nasty shit sometimes too. It means alot to hear of a guy dealing with some of the same crap day to day. Thinking the way I think, about the things I think about. I am very happy to have found your videos. Keep up the good work.

  • I am sorry to read about your accident and am glad that my posts help you in some way.

    I will and you do the same!

  • I will pray for you. You are so scared of God that you have to hide behind your dark glasses

    and have long pauses to have time to make up your next line of false teaching. You are SO uneducated about God it's not even funny. Your speeches actually tells me you are crying out to really know the one true God. I could teach you so much, but all I can do from here is pray that you accept Jesus as your lord and savior before you stand before him in judgement.

  • It is impossible for me to be afraid of something that does not exist.

    I have studied religion for over 25 years, how about you?

  • Is that crack in your pipe? Because Jesus is real. As real as the crack in your pipe. So real in fact he can create a rock he can't lift and also lift a rock he can't create. Confused? Pass me the herb, so I can go hang out with Moses Jesus Allah Buddha Krishna and the rest of the crew.

  • He is with the old lady because she believes, prays, and worships Him. It is your free will to believe or not, but those who believe without seeing are blessd. I will pray for you that you find the light before you find proof and that your faith will grow past the size of the period at the end of this sentence. God loves you like He loves the rest of His children.

  • god is awesome

  • So is Harry Potter... same thing.

  • Wrong again. Harry potter was made for entertainment. Even of God wasn't real, he still was not "fictionalized" for the entertainment for people (although sadly, that is all some people see in him).

  • Harry Potter is God?

  • watch?v=FUyPjeIFKug&feature=re­c-fresh

  • Is this the clip from Network?

    Great flick.

  • That is the point of Christianity. Not to give people false hope, but to give us a good example to live by. The people at many churches are sometimes pretty ignorant and cling to false hopes, but they don't neccessarily want to steal your money.. lol. In fact they did the opposite with me. I feel God is just to big to understand, and put simply: "shit happens." That's just life. Relationships with great people is what life is all about.

  • When faced with opposition Christians always do what you are doing here. They water down god. "Well god didn't mean that, or he never intended things to be that way, you are reading the scripture wrong, etc" But then on Sunday mornings you talk about how awesome god is and how powerful he is. Fucking pathetic. Whats the point of having a watered down god. Jesus promises that whatever we ask in his name we shall receive, no ifs ands or buts.. he says you WILL receive.

  • Where's my pony!?

  • "good examples to live by"?

    Where?

    The bible is the worst tract of violence, genocide, racism, slavery and anything else horrible that you can think of I have yet to read.

  • Hey I went through the same thing when I had my accident. My dad is a minister at a Southern Baptist church and everybody kept telling me that God was going to heal me. I soon discovered that it wasn't going to happen. I don't believe in those types of miracles, but I belive that PEOPLE are the miracle workers. The church helped me raise a lot of money for home modification. The world we live in is just a harsh place. However people should try to live like Christ and help out the poor and needy.

  • "But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me"

    (Luke 19:27)

    "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)

  • There are many regenerative claims around, and rising from the dead (which is ressucitation, not ressurection) which is a greater claim than amputation. So why is it that God so hates amputees and won't touch them with a barge pole? Backaches, headaches, limps, internal ambiguities, God sorts those out apparently. Bigger and smaller stuff, with or without the need of the individuals faith too. Strangely, anything clear (amputation) is not touched.

    Christians, ask why you won't provide proof

  • When claims of rising from the dead arise - no pun intended (see 20 claims with Todd at the Floridsa revival) the faith of others is OK and enough.

    Believers are happy to flock and voluntarily (without prompting) boast about witnesses, evidence, doctors having proof, what the medics said etc. but suddenly when proof is requested, it's - you sceptic, have faith. Can't you see the hypocricy, double standards?

    Does anyonme have proof to offer of a supernatural healing? Yes or no?

    Thanks.

  • You are so correct my brother. If you ain't young, rich, skinny, white, with perfect teeth, in Amerika, you ain't shit. And that lovely philosophy is nowhere more prevalent than in the Churches, or so it would seem. Not knocking religion, just the Amerikan Mindset at present. Peace.

  • its funny because "doctors" claim miraculous things happen to patients and that God is at work. Well the funny thing is that these coincidences happen to all people of all religions so there still is no proof beyond the possibility that something weird happened. If it only happened to Christians, then you would have something.... Good Video RKZenRage

  • Well God loves all doesn't he? Regardless of their sins.

  • that was a reply to Eshim906

  • I think you better go back and actually read your Bible

  • 1. (Psalm 5:5) - "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity." 2. (Psalm 11:5) - "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, And the one who loves violence His soul hates."

  • 3.Proverbs 6:16-19"There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers

    4.Hosea 9:15 I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels

  • So much for "god is love"

  • It would seem that no one who has lost limbs or is paralyzed has enough faith. It´s so sick and disgusting that people do this. I can relate to why you feel that way when someone talks to your family members about healing you with faith. Faith healers are the lowest of the low.

  • wanting for proof is not faith.believe and ask the Lord and you shall recieve.Jesus wants to heal you.just cry out to him and you will find him.he is the healing God.God will heal you when you have faith in him.he doesn't want to give you proof so that you believe in him.he wants you to trust him and follow him for he is God.he doesn't want you to follow him becuase of what he can do..becuase you know what,God can bring miracles out of you if you believe in him and ask God to use you.

  • I tried for years to believe, even prepping for seminary in college.

    Lies.

  • In July of last year I found Michelle in a diabetic coma. Prior to that, her diabetes was undiagnosed as we missed the symptoms due to her other disabilities. To cut a long story short, here in Canada a person's normal blood sugar is between 4-7 and hers was 70!! Her doctor told us that it was a miracle she was still alive and that it was obvious a "higher power" was working. She's alive today, and much healthier than before. Now I don't take life for granted anymore ... :o)

  • "it was obvious"

    This is where we differ.

  • Please let me start off by telling you that I respect your point of view, even if I don't necessarily agree with it, as I'm a Christian. My sister Michelle's disabled and I don't begin to understand why God hasn't physically healed her yet. We don't know all the reasons but there's always a purpose, and I guess only time will tell exactly what that purpose is. I can only pray that you will come to understand this someday, and I'm certainly not going to try shoving anything down your throat.

  • I'm going to respond to myself here by saying that I don't believe in shoving anything like this down people's throats. The best I can do is share my own experiences. For the record, I don't believe that God physically heals people all the time. I've seen too many examples of when that doesn't happen. Spiritual healing is more important. The Bible says that our mortal bodies won't last anyway.

  • Why would you pay people to heal you its obvious they are wolves.They are very few christians who can heal and well people like this man in the video are not very encouraging.I guess they need someone with the gift of healing.Someone who is not asking for money but a gift for God.Stay away from wolves if they ask for your money you know they are wolves.Healing is free like eternity.

  • This is a really good message. I hope it affects at least some people.

  • Thank you.

    More people need the courage to speak the truth and not worry about offending the religious. I believe the religious notion of unquestioned faith also makes people fall prey to psychics and other bunko artists.

  • Man, you've got my respect.

    I've seen so many fatuous American christians spreading their illusions on youtube. It's good to know that America has people like you - it's important for me not because it prevents me from losing my innate sympathy for this country.

  • god doesnt heal all people. the ones who have no faith like you, are never healed. no one knows everything about god. NO ONE. but when you are burning in hell, or when christ comes back to take his ppl away, you will regret that you did any of these things. i promise. im praying for you to open your eyes and realize the truth.

  • *holds breath*

  • that was not out of love man. You accomplished nothing man. I have more respect for this guy than you and I am a fellow christian myself. there is no use to tell this guy that your praying for him when you have just condemed him.  You have NO RIGHT to condemn anyone bro. think twice before you open your mouth next time.

  • That's always the easy way out. It makes you more comfortable to make rationalizations instead of admitting "I don't know". How do YOU know he did not have no faith once? What about those who do have faith, but never get healed? Let me guess... not enough faith?

  • Yeah, and plenty of very religious believers in your God are not healed either! Faith in invisible entities and prayer yield very poor results. It's about equal to chance, so what use is it? Modern medicine and DOCTORS are more reliable.

  • "not enough faith" lol

  • You would be amazed at how many times I have heard that. Me or my family.

  • Check out life without limbs on youtube. He has an interesting perspective why God has not healed him. I am looking for stuff on Smith Wigglesworth because there is supposed to be video footage of miracles but I have not located them. However, the last thing I want is to go to hell with a healed body. I would rather God heal my heart.

  • You are brilliant. Keep up the good work.

    LS

  • Its strange that the preacherman is allowed to get rich at the expense of peoples pain, while if you went around administering the God that really does heal, and did it for free even, youd wind up in the pen / Hes a DRUG.

  • Thats right, God heals, but not the God of that preacherman who capitalizes on the pain of the faithful, but the God of the weed of the ganja seed.

  • Skin complaints, muscle pain, damaged and worn out joints, eg arthritis like your grandmother has, respond to medicinal use of cannabis. Doesnt help amputees grow new limbs though.

  • He did it with this holy anointing oil. whats so holy about it. It was very rich in cannabis. Laying on of hands, ie smearing cannabis rich ointment on people can actually cure or at last alleviate a lot of things

  • I dont know about God healing in these modern times, but a bit of scientific research shows that this Jesus guy did quite a bit of healing, but it wasnt by divine grace.

  • i have seen people heal so you can talk all you want i have freinds who have had hip problems who could hardly walk get up and run around the church so God heal and he is very real my freind.

  • Adrenaline can do a lot... tests show these people are worse off three weeks later, if not three days.

    Show me the "healed" amputee or total C5 SCI and then I will buy it.

  • well you raize a good queztion doez god heal..and will he heal amputeez.thiz queztion haz bin bothering me zince i ran intoit on youtube.well i believe in jezuz and try live my life like he tellz uz to.and now i cant get diz queztion out of my mind i will pray and azk jezuz 4 a anzwer to thiz but dont write jezuz off dood coz he alwayz helpz me in life when i azk zo i promox=ze i will get bak to your queztion wiv an anzwer god blezz ya m8,.,,,,

  • You met him?

  • come out of the pic bud! this aient heaven ! Do u believe in HEAVEN ? thats 2nd time I asked

  • Of course not, I am an atheist. What a silly question.

    No god, no heaven.

  • may be you are in BAD COMPANY !

    your pipe seems to be "extinguishing" many times may be GOD dosent want you to smoke but your doing it and when you ll fell into serious illness you ll expect from GOD to heal you ??

  • You have got to be kidding.  God puts out my pipe but lets tens of thousands of kids die of hunger.

    You god is a moron.

    One pipe a week that I do not inhale is not going to harm me.

    Your following comment removed, off-topic. Stay on topic.

  • I have a hard core christian friend who swears up and down that her tooth infecton was healed by Benny Hinn. I know it's not true, but I really don't know what to say to that... other than to wait for her to tell me that Satan put the infection back. Any ideas?

  • None, not against total lack of logic like that.

  • Tooth infection healed? Oh come the frick on man there are people out there with serious diseases and she got a tooth infection healed?

    I am Christian but I don't believe in healing. And I don't write the chek to a church. I'd rather give to someone who really needs it. America is filled with Churchianity and part of that is running all of these healing scams and megachurches taking your money. Yeah it's heartbreaking...but that's just not real Christianity.

  • Well said. There is a BIG difference between a Christian and a follower of Christ.

  • God CAN heal, the problem is when Christians, pastors, etc. Go out on their own to pray for healing without the direction of God, and then heap the responsibility for healing on the person who is sick. I'd let a little old poor praying granny pray for me before I let Benny Hinn touch me.

  • I see, god just chooses not to.

    How nice for us.

  • it is repulsive... hope for cash...

  • Indeed

  • Yeah, some people do that with personal crisis, too. Then when you tell them your born-again friend or family member has the same problem, they get mad. They are religious predators, is what they are.

  • i agree with everything that was sais 100 percent

  • Excellent as always. I am sick and tired of religious folks preying upon the disabled. It disgusts me.

  • well said. preying on people like that is fucking evil

  • this is a great example that supports a fact that i am already aware of. faith is capable of causing unnecessary suffering.

    how many people died because some idiots believe that the jewish race exists? until today, there is NO evidence that something like a jewish race exists, and there never will be, but that belief could be spread to a point that caused the death of MILLIONS of people in second world war.

    as sam harris puts it, faith enables you to be absolutely sure with zero evidence.

  • another example would be stem cell research. the suffering of all those persons that have multiple sklerosis or some other disease that could be cured with the knowledge we gain through stem cell research is REAL, while the sacredness of 100 human cells is NOT real. adult people that have friends and family and live a life suffer, and their continuous suffering is less valuable than the supposed suffering of some cells.

    faith can AND DOES hurt people.

  • Stem cell therapies will be the only thing that will cure what is wrong with me and those who oppose it want those like me to continue to suffer and die.

  • i started making videos today, and i decided to make a video response about this ^^

    so you finally get to see the person behind those comments. id really like to hear your oppinion about my videos.

  • I look forward to the reply.

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