@CesarManiaX what is better? stone age, or a world controlled by psychopaths and fear? full of corruption and lies. I rather have " the stone age" economical model, that allows creativity and freedom of culture than this western system. buy inventing the gun just showed how primitive u r. living in fear.
@Sizomu Kenyans have control over their own country now. Do you know that even up to today throughout the African continent African-owned schools with African teachers in private Protestant schools tell students to pick a ''Christian'' name. Whether it be Kenya, Nigeria, Ghana, ect. Watch ''Battle of Wounded Knee'' (lots of Youtube clips on it). As was a common practice by Christian missionaries providing free schooling in Amerindian areas of the US in the late-1800's, they did the same thing.
@tmaz0126 Except they'd tell the Sioux and other Amerindian children ''pick white names''. This was also done in other parts of the west such as former Spanish colonies in Latin America. Africans doing this. White Britons and Europeans don't even want you to do this. They don't want you to steal your own cultures by doing this. African missionaries are westernizing your culture even though they aren't westerners & the former colonizers gave up or severely minimized Christianity in their society!
You are so misinformed, and your argument is dumbfounded. What happened in Sirrea Leone/Rwanda does not remotely compare to all the World Wars, Jewish Holocaust, death from slavery, and death from colonization of the World that the British brought upon mankind. The White Man single handily have more blood on it's hand for the love of power than all the World's other races, COMBINED.
And for what?...Look at the state of Britain today, it has turn into a Gollum. A former shadow of it's once self.
European empires may have robbed Africa from it's resourses but the natives hardly knew how to utilize them. They may know now, but that's due to european technology and industry that was brought in the same time. It certainly brought Africa to a more global stage with greater opportunities than before. Some might consider this controversial, but they probably have too much resentment to think clearly.
Brother. Thanks for the comment. I caught it at my homepage.
Look its not the size of government that counts. You cannot let bankers pyramid on cash. Its the same effect as counterfeiting. And with that ability they will end up running government, and not running government only to the extent that they sell you out to the foreigners. So yeah I get your point. Certainly government has to be strong enough to stop banker pyramid rackets. And now we see that Buchanan (Greatest living mainstream
economist and nobel prizewinner) and Reisman (greatest living economist) have provisionally decided that we need to wipe out bank-cash-pyramiding to cope with this financial breakdown.
I think the Americans need to arrest a lot of these thieves myself.
You see people getting rich right? And you think, well yes he works hard. You see people not doing well. You think. Well maybe he drinks too much, and this might be partly true.
So the money-makers may deserve some of what they have accumulated. The less deserving may have had some of their misfortune coming to them. But IF THE SYSTEM ITSELF was unfair and uneven. Then this is still not going to feel right and its still not going to be right.
your average small businessman making 200 000 AUD a year. Well he is likely all he earns and more. But these bigshots in the big corporations pulling stock-options and bonuses and getting fifty million dollars for on year of pretty sweet and easy work?
Clearly the system isn't as fair as it could be. So yes you need some outside investment. But people have to think very hard about making the system as righteous as it can be.
Well said. I don't think regulation of business to a certain extent is that bad of an idea.
As a sidenote, I don't think people in rich countries realize how fortunate they are compared to a lot of poor states in the world. There are at least 2 Billion people living with less than 2$ a day! Compared to them, you live like a sultan. But most of us barely look outside their immediate interests. Let alone show compassion to injustice towards others.
Right. They don't need to be big. But they do need to set clear and fair ground-rules. You need to know where you stand before you throw ten years work into trying to make some small business a glorious thing, worthy of all the effort. If you don't have the clear regulation in advance, already rich sharks just come in and find some way of shifting all the loot to them.
'Colonialists have raped our nation and continent of our most precious assets, and sabotaged our future out of spite.'
Imperialism is never acceptable. But you may be going too far here from a practical standpoint.
The worst thing they did was leave you with crap fiat currency and a government apparatus that you couldn't afford and that was set up to grow and drain the country.
But its up to you guys to bring that particular monster to heel and not dwell on the past.
Forward to what? Destruction! Were trying to go green all over the world now. Life in Any part of the African continent was already green. Life recycled itself through cultural understanding and strong respect for nature and human life. How do you civilize a people when they are more civilized than the so called civilizer. Funny!
Don't listen to any greenie bullshitartists. They'd probably rather see you dead through malaria and turn Africa into one giant Safari park with no people living there.
Any decent person wants Africans to go richer than we are now and for everyone to get an easier life.
The environmentalists don't come under that decent-people rubrick.
Part 1 and 2: intended for GMBCATASTROPHE- Part 1: Was not my point! But ok? What I'm saying is Africa was fine before the British, Portuguese, Germens, Italia, and French destroyed it or so called civilized it. Africans were all ready civilized and taking care of the earth simply by just living their lives. The green thing was just so I could make my point.
part 2: The green thing was just so I could make my point. I understand that going green is propaganda. The average person may not read into matters such as the colonial takeover of Africa like most of us on this page. Thats why I said they were fine before the going green thing. But ok.
I suppose thats a fine point from a sort of moral point of view. From a more practical point of view all of us face the looters. I face looters who are white. You may have looters that are white as well. But you certainly face looters who have dark skin. And we need to get rid of fractional reserve. Get good solid silver gold and copper in our currencies. And reduce government and get fairer property rights and taxes. All of us have to do this where our own current oppressors are concerned.
This may seem like another side issue. But a man ought never be taxed on retained profits in his business. If he is to be taxed, well its one thing to tax some of his drawings. But never tax his retained earnings. Because it is spending on his business that raises the wages for the less fortunate. This is a sidetracking post sure. But believe me. All of us are being looted now. Once it may have been white guys pushing around people who didn't have gunpowder. But now we are all being ripped off.
Government reduction greatly encourages corruption in big business for the disadventage of the lower classes. See global economic crysis for more information.
So Colonialism occured,deal with it.Kenya shouldn't belong to certain individuals but rather to all the people living in Kenya who build the nation and make it what it is today.Instead of pointing fingers,Kenyans to should be anticipating methods of moving forward.
truth is we should be working towards SPIRITUAL and MENTAL DE-COLONIZATION and we will see that yurugu WILL begin to have less and less control over our homeland our resources and our very mind and spirit
"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them,
they had the land and we had the Bible." Jomo Kenyatta
Colonialists have raped our nation and continent of our most precious assets, and sabotaged our future out of spite.
@JomoKitale For 10,000 years you sat on the land and resources. You did nothing with it. You did not progress. You lived in mud huts. When the white man leaves you will live in mud huts again.
@Veritatis61 you sound so stupid .. they used those resources have ou seen the gold exhibit they made seats and crowna dn intricate art of pure gold africans are known for iron smelting and ou can see it in the british museum people didnt just live in mud huts and those that do like in india the americas etc and even parts of europe wher people lived in what you call rustic homes because itss european did so because it suits the environment dumb ass man places are built in stone as well so stfu
@JomoKitale I agree with what you're saying. I am white and not African or British. I say though why keep this Bible than? It is now Kenyans who embrace western Christianity much more than Britons and those former European colonizers today. Not that Christianity wasn't in Africa actually even longer than Europe (esp. Ethiopia). But the Christianity practiced in Kenya is not indigenous. Religion is not separate from culture, globalization and politics. Religion is a reflection of human contact.
@tmaz0126 By living by the Bible (well, not that all Kenyan Christians or Christians period do), it is indirectly ascribing to the colonialism and exploitation of the past as right. This is a contradiction many people with views similar to yourself forget. The more important reality is that Africa is no different than any other continent on earth in that they've always had immense contact across the globe and internally in their own continent.
@tmaz0126 Likewise, although in another context, Islam can be viewed similarly in Africa. The difference is though is that all Muslims around the world who are not Arab (and I mean ''Arabian'', not Arabized Berbers or Sudanese), is Islam has been present in larger capacities in Northern and Eastern Africa for a longer period of time. The problem is Islamis in naturally hierarchal to Arabic culture and language which either makes other Muslims marginalized or encourage to lie about their identity
@JomoKitale - Kenya has been independent in 1963, all your land and natural resources are still there. Since then Africa has received far more foreign aid than any other region in the world, more than $300 billion USD, yet most states are effectively bankrupt, weighed down by debt, and failing to provide even minimum public services. Africa has created it own mess, so quit chasing colonial ghosts and take responsibility for your own self-inflicted problems for a change.
If Europeans never touched Africa, the blacks would still be living in the stone age
CesarManiaX 1 year ago 2
@CesarManiaX
even if what you say is true, the Africans would have been ruling over their own nations, living on their own terms, not another civilization's terms
enjoyable4annoying 1 year ago 3
@CesarManiaX what is better? stone age, or a world controlled by psychopaths and fear? full of corruption and lies. I rather have " the stone age" economical model, that allows creativity and freedom of culture than this western system. buy inventing the gun just showed how primitive u r. living in fear.
Sizomu 5 months ago 3
@Sizomu Kenyans have control over their own country now. Do you know that even up to today throughout the African continent African-owned schools with African teachers in private Protestant schools tell students to pick a ''Christian'' name. Whether it be Kenya, Nigeria, Ghana, ect. Watch ''Battle of Wounded Knee'' (lots of Youtube clips on it). As was a common practice by Christian missionaries providing free schooling in Amerindian areas of the US in the late-1800's, they did the same thing.
tmaz0126 3 months ago
@tmaz0126 Except they'd tell the Sioux and other Amerindian children ''pick white names''. This was also done in other parts of the west such as former Spanish colonies in Latin America. Africans doing this. White Britons and Europeans don't even want you to do this. They don't want you to steal your own cultures by doing this. African missionaries are westernizing your culture even though they aren't westerners & the former colonizers gave up or severely minimized Christianity in their society!
tmaz0126 3 months ago
You are so misinformed, and your argument is dumbfounded. What happened in Sirrea Leone/Rwanda does not remotely compare to all the World Wars, Jewish Holocaust, death from slavery, and death from colonization of the World that the British brought upon mankind. The White Man single handily have more blood on it's hand for the love of power than all the World's other races, COMBINED.
And for what?...Look at the state of Britain today, it has turn into a Gollum. A former shadow of it's once self.
MrJay429 1 year ago 2
European empires may have robbed Africa from it's resourses but the natives hardly knew how to utilize them. They may know now, but that's due to european technology and industry that was brought in the same time. It certainly brought Africa to a more global stage with greater opportunities than before. Some might consider this controversial, but they probably have too much resentment to think clearly.
HellesBringer 2 years ago
Brother. Thanks for the comment. I caught it at my homepage.
Look its not the size of government that counts. You cannot let bankers pyramid on cash. Its the same effect as counterfeiting. And with that ability they will end up running government, and not running government only to the extent that they sell you out to the foreigners. So yeah I get your point. Certainly government has to be strong enough to stop banker pyramid rackets. And now we see that Buchanan (Greatest living mainstream
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
economist and nobel prizewinner) and Reisman (greatest living economist) have provisionally decided that we need to wipe out bank-cash-pyramiding to cope with this financial breakdown.
I think the Americans need to arrest a lot of these thieves myself.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
You see people getting rich right? And you think, well yes he works hard. You see people not doing well. You think. Well maybe he drinks too much, and this might be partly true.
So the money-makers may deserve some of what they have accumulated. The less deserving may have had some of their misfortune coming to them. But IF THE SYSTEM ITSELF was unfair and uneven. Then this is still not going to feel right and its still not going to be right.
In my country your average small businessman
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
your average small businessman making 200 000 AUD a year. Well he is likely all he earns and more. But these bigshots in the big corporations pulling stock-options and bonuses and getting fifty million dollars for on year of pretty sweet and easy work?
Clearly the system isn't as fair as it could be. So yes you need some outside investment. But people have to think very hard about making the system as righteous as it can be.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
Well said. I don't think regulation of business to a certain extent is that bad of an idea.
As a sidenote, I don't think people in rich countries realize how fortunate they are compared to a lot of poor states in the world. There are at least 2 Billion people living with less than 2$ a day! Compared to them, you live like a sultan. But most of us barely look outside their immediate interests. Let alone show compassion to injustice towards others.
HellesBringer 2 years ago 2
Right. They don't need to be big. But they do need to set clear and fair ground-rules. You need to know where you stand before you throw ten years work into trying to make some small business a glorious thing, worthy of all the effort. If you don't have the clear regulation in advance, already rich sharks just come in and find some way of shifting all the loot to them.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
'Colonialists have raped our nation and continent of our most precious assets, and sabotaged our future out of spite.'
Imperialism is never acceptable. But you may be going too far here from a practical standpoint.
The worst thing they did was leave you with crap fiat currency and a government apparatus that you couldn't afford and that was set up to grow and drain the country.
But its up to you guys to bring that particular monster to heel and not dwell on the past.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
Forward to what? Destruction! Were trying to go green all over the world now. Life in Any part of the African continent was already green. Life recycled itself through cultural understanding and strong respect for nature and human life. How do you civilize a people when they are more civilized than the so called civilizer. Funny!
keem008 2 years ago 2
Don't listen to any greenie bullshitartists. They'd probably rather see you dead through malaria and turn Africa into one giant Safari park with no people living there.
Any decent person wants Africans to go richer than we are now and for everyone to get an easier life.
The environmentalists don't come under that decent-people rubrick.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
Part 1 and 2: intended for GMBCATASTROPHE- Part 1: Was not my point! But ok? What I'm saying is Africa was fine before the British, Portuguese, Germens, Italia, and French destroyed it or so called civilized it. Africans were all ready civilized and taking care of the earth simply by just living their lives. The green thing was just so I could make my point.
keem008 2 years ago
Right fair enough.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
My man, peace.
keem008 2 years ago
I hear you. And you make me embarrassed on account of the troublemakers in my country and amongst the former colonizers.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
Hey Silly,
It's easy to say that you should forget about the things the robber has looted from you when you hold all of the loot.
darkhouse1906 2 years ago
part 2: The green thing was just so I could make my point. I understand that going green is propaganda. The average person may not read into matters such as the colonial takeover of Africa like most of us on this page. Thats why I said they were fine before the going green thing. But ok.
keem008 2 years ago
I suppose thats a fine point from a sort of moral point of view. From a more practical point of view all of us face the looters. I face looters who are white. You may have looters that are white as well. But you certainly face looters who have dark skin. And we need to get rid of fractional reserve. Get good solid silver gold and copper in our currencies. And reduce government and get fairer property rights and taxes. All of us have to do this where our own current oppressors are concerned.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
This may seem like another side issue. But a man ought never be taxed on retained profits in his business. If he is to be taxed, well its one thing to tax some of his drawings. But never tax his retained earnings. Because it is spending on his business that raises the wages for the less fortunate. This is a sidetracking post sure. But believe me. All of us are being looted now. Once it may have been white guys pushing around people who didn't have gunpowder. But now we are all being ripped off.
GMBCATASTROPHE 2 years ago
Government reduction greatly encourages corruption in big business for the disadventage of the lower classes. See global economic crysis for more information.
HellesBringer 2 years ago
So Colonialism occured,deal with it.Kenya shouldn't belong to certain individuals but rather to all the people living in Kenya who build the nation and make it what it is today.Instead of pointing fingers,Kenyans to should be anticipating methods of moving forward.
sillysylviesly 2 years ago
truth is we should be working towards SPIRITUAL and MENTAL DE-COLONIZATION and we will see that yurugu WILL begin to have less and less control over our homeland our resources and our very mind and spirit
sisnubia 2 years ago
Very Well Put!!!
Thank you for that
muslimalmumin1 2 years ago
This world would be a better place without this white devils,everywhere they go, they cause pain and destruction.
The white man should not be allowed to rule this world, black people should rise and take their place.
shiningamour 3 years ago
United States of Africa and invite all African Americans back home......fuck white people they are devils......
andygroove21 3 years ago
"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them,
they had the land and we had the Bible." Jomo Kenyatta
Colonialists have raped our nation and continent of our most precious assets, and sabotaged our future out of spite.
Now they deny their responsibility to us.
They must not be forgiven or forgotten.
JomoKitale 3 years ago 11
@JomoKitale For 10,000 years you sat on the land and resources. You did nothing with it. You did not progress. You lived in mud huts. When the white man leaves you will live in mud huts again.
Veritatis61 1 year ago
@Veritatis61 you sound so stupid .. they used those resources have ou seen the gold exhibit they made seats and crowna dn intricate art of pure gold africans are known for iron smelting and ou can see it in the british museum people didnt just live in mud huts and those that do like in india the americas etc and even parts of europe wher people lived in what you call rustic homes because itss european did so because it suits the environment dumb ass man places are built in stone as well so stfu
guapgueezee 1 year ago
@JomoKitale I agree with what you're saying. I am white and not African or British. I say though why keep this Bible than? It is now Kenyans who embrace western Christianity much more than Britons and those former European colonizers today. Not that Christianity wasn't in Africa actually even longer than Europe (esp. Ethiopia). But the Christianity practiced in Kenya is not indigenous. Religion is not separate from culture, globalization and politics. Religion is a reflection of human contact.
tmaz0126 3 months ago
@tmaz0126 By living by the Bible (well, not that all Kenyan Christians or Christians period do), it is indirectly ascribing to the colonialism and exploitation of the past as right. This is a contradiction many people with views similar to yourself forget. The more important reality is that Africa is no different than any other continent on earth in that they've always had immense contact across the globe and internally in their own continent.
tmaz0126 3 months ago
@tmaz0126 Likewise, although in another context, Islam can be viewed similarly in Africa. The difference is though is that all Muslims around the world who are not Arab (and I mean ''Arabian'', not Arabized Berbers or Sudanese), is Islam has been present in larger capacities in Northern and Eastern Africa for a longer period of time. The problem is Islamis in naturally hierarchal to Arabic culture and language which either makes other Muslims marginalized or encourage to lie about their identity
tmaz0126 3 months ago
@JomoKitale - Kenya has been independent in 1963, all your land and natural resources are still there. Since then Africa has received far more foreign aid than any other region in the world, more than $300 billion USD, yet most states are effectively bankrupt, weighed down by debt, and failing to provide even minimum public services. Africa has created it own mess, so quit chasing colonial ghosts and take responsibility for your own self-inflicted problems for a change.
bgibb101 3 months ago