steroids go round in circles, if u wanna b the best then u have to beat the best, they take steroids so u gotta take em, then the young generation come round, they again wanna b the best, so they gotta take steroids to. if u wanna b the best u gotta take em, tho remember the side effects!!
STEROIDS USE TO HAVE HIS VIDEO ABOUT HIM POSTED.....HE WAS FAT......ALL NATURAL BURGUERS, BURRITOS, CHIMICHANGAS, BUD LIGHTS.....REAL GOOD ATHLETE......LOL
There is nothing wrong with steroids. They help you sculpt a magnificent physique and can be taken safley and responsibly, just like any other supplement. Everyone's body developes in a unique and specifically remarkable way when on steroids, in my opinion, its just a shame that most people dont want to learn how to safley practice steroid use to maximize full body potential.
There is nothing wrong with steroids. They help you sculpt a magnificent physique and can be taken safley and responsibly, just like any other supplement. Everyone's body developes in a unique and specifically remarkable way when on steroids, in my opinion, its just a shame that most people dont want to learn how to safley practice steroid use to maximize full body potential.
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stop hateing hating bc u cant do that fkin herbs hate bc there fat n lazy lmao if u knew ne thing realy dr have not shown ne proof that what they say roiids do all this bad sht i dont do it but its lies for the dam voern ment i know ppl who take them bc they lack from birth no homones n tesosterone in there bodys go to drs n have them injected n there liveing n healthy stop bliveing wa tv ses n reserch bc drs that lie havent done the reserch
hey dip shit !!! if you dont like what you see change the fucking channel cause everyone else is tired of hearing you bitch about your little discomforts if you really dont like steriods then dont watch or blog about these people!!.
It's part of the sport get over it superpredatorr and steroidsr4losers you guys are skinny little fucks that don' t even train so don't bother going on every video and posting that shit its stupid we get your point and just accept it
@thenextprodigy2 its not just part of bodybuilding, its part of every sport. baseball, basketball, football. they all do it. those who think athletes in other sports dont do it are living in a fairy tale. all the athletes got where they are cause they took a chance. i agree with you prodigy2.
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@thenextprodigy2 OMG totally correct. These little pc nerdguys just need greatness to leech of like a tit from their momma. its the only thing they have to do every day it seems. Hate on those who enjoy even the slightest recgonition. Pretty much the only way to be good in this sport is to have ur name tossed around everywhere right?
SteroidsAreForLosers <-- how come i see this guy in EVERY BB video ... dont he have nothing better to do ... he must been bullied pretty badly when he was college by some dude who took steroid.
in this video he's still doing rehab on his knee so he's not going to do anything too heavy and risk re-injury, but yeah it's not really worth watching someone do super light lifts
Wow, you didn't even try to say anything intelligent. Good job on being an ignorant prick. Better luck next time, maybe you'll have an epiphany and figure out something to say that you haven't said five hundred times.
not all steroids...anadrol for example would make you retain water instead of dry you out...if you abuse any drug you can hurt yourself...i am pretty dure there is no conclusive evidence ssaying that gear can directly contribute to injury. except maybe your muscle grows faster than your tendons causing tears. but you cant just say abuse of steroids will do that too you it is not that simple. winstrol can dry out joint some though. in some people.
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I could out run him though. His legs have strenght, don't seem to have much power or twitch (twitch is used in terms of quick movements as cutting, turning, reversing, accelerating).
I don't know about Heath... He's really good but I still think he's too unproportionate and rather narrow... But I'm positive he'll the crack the top 5.
A lot of hate on the message boards man. You know racism is an equal opportunity thing. However I must admit that when I view videos of white people on youtube I don't read a lot of negative comments about their race. Of course I don't know who is behind a computer. Yet everytime it's a video of a black person or person of color there are racial comments. Again I don't know who's behind a computer it's something I've noticed.
no racism here we're duscussing genetics but some people as soon as you metnion the words balck and bad get on the defensive. the high calves of the black man is a known fact. you cant fight your genes. and it isnt stopping the lieks of ronnie coleman with no so pleasing calves win 8 mr Os. and it is exactly thes short calves that make black people jump higher and run faster.
Hmmm..well look at like this. I don't see negative racial comments against whites on you tube as frequently. Usually you see that in response to some negative/ignorant comment. The important thing here is no body builder is perfect. Read my Dorian comment in my other post. Yet I don't complain about him winning mainly because I'm not an official judge and too it's a very subject sport. Oh well we all have our opinions.
mate im not racist. if i was i would be saying a lot more than blacks genetically have weak calves. victor martinez is an awesome bodybiulder and probably all around guy, however when discussing his calves you cant overlook them.
im just pointing out a scientific fact with plenty of visual evidence, if people wanna play hte racist card, claim victimhood, label others racist then thats their problem.
Jusup Wilkosz, Frank Zane, Jacues Neuville, Mike Mentzer...yeah mr. heavey duty, Dennis Tinerino, Mike Katz, Craig Titus, Vince Galanti, Bob Cirello, Jimmy Mentis, Dennis Wolf...all of which were competitive on a national or professional level. As for Dorian his front quads were not strong. His delts even weaker...no separation in the heads via back double biceps, not to mention a weak chest. Shall I name more?
wow you left out at least 2/3's of the white body builders I mentioned. well we all have our opinion.
By the way...Dorian had nothing near perfect except for maybe hams and calves. Chest?...please! Delts...big and thick but heads not clearly visible. As for my likes don't pretend to know what I like. I like neither Coleman or Arnold.
like i said all those BB had long "gastrocnemius" with thick "soleus" calves with the exception of jimmy mantis who has short gastrocnemius. this is not a comparitive argument, its a scientific fact with plenty of visual evidence that cant be denied. its a genetic trait, its the same as saying that most mediterraneans dont have blue eyes but most nordics do.
separatino is somehwat genetic too, cris cromier doesnt have this spearation you talk about but hes physique is admired by many.
First off I never ever mentioned a word about Chris Comier. Check the posts. Second the white body builders I mentioned lacked calf development of all kinds. "High calves" and so on. Also if black body builders lack the genetic trait to build thick calves why mention it's a "lack of hard work"...it's genetic right? If it's a lack of hard work for blacks then what's the excuse of white's with high calves? Bottom line anyone can pick at things and link race.
nonono you misunderstand and take this very personally. bb dont get judged on genetic flaws as they cant be altered, you get judged on the work youve invested. victor martinez wins shows because he works hard despite his genetically flawed calves.
i mentioned chris cormier because hes a top bb yet he doesnt posses exceptinal separation.
i keep saying theres exceptions to most rules but "MOST" black dudes and girls i see have high calves. its a visual fact, can you prove me wrong?!
LOL...what do you expect professionals to say about another former Mr.O. Hell they'll say Arnold was the greatest and that if he competed today he'd have the fortitude to bring up whatever is needed to be competitive. Hell I won't say Dorian didn't deserve to win. What I will say is we all have genetic differences that will appeal to a man made standard...especially body building. I know some black dudes with calves to die for.
i dont care if u liked greg valentino, youre not my girlfriend . theres many guitarists who are better than hendrix today but when general comparison is made its found theyre not as he was ahead of his time, same with arnold.
scientifically blacks have weak calves genetically as we see everyday. theres is throwbacks but the law of nature for most blacks dictates that they have short gastrocnemius muscles.
again you dont get judged for genetic flaws, only lack of work..
white bb are flawless? lol kidding...its inevitable that you'll take this personal. but blacks have high muscle insertions in their calves, in one article i was reading in other muscles such as forearms...
whites have low muscle insertinos, in terms of aesthetics especially calves a white will have better calves 90% of the time.
a genetic weakness that whites might have is a poor ability to gain weight when compared to blacks. thats all i can thik of....
fuck yeah we keep gymnastics, swimming, powerlifting events, worlds strongest man events, olympic lifting, cage fighting...retard is only partially black..
as for big dicks you might wanna check statistcs and not watch porn films who black male must fit the stereotype of black male=black dick...
the largest dick in the world belongs to a white male who happens to be gay...lol...
29 bodybuilders with high calves lol...practically every black male has small high calves, small legs in general
this argument is pointless,each race has its strengths and weaknesses. Sorry for making fun of you. dont forget the 2008 mr olympia starts the 25th. peace
what about gymnastics, swimming, mma, powerlifting, olympic lifting, worlds strongest man events?! white people dominate 99.99% of the time...get your little sister to suck your farts , dick or whatever because you probably are some inbred retarted individual
in fact why the fuck am i arguing with a retard like you who thinks that "dominican" is a race. you could be white and be from the DR. nationality and ethnic group are not the same.
dexter jackson, chris cormier, coleman, j. jackson, martinez, melvin anthony and many others all have high calves. how many white bodybuilders with white calves can u name with high calves.
leave my little sister out of this because she is retarted too. i looked up white bodybuilders with high calves and i found 29
Tiger Woods black ass dominates 100% of the time so how does that tie in with your 99.99% tweedle nuts. you can keep your gymnastics and swimming at least we have big dicks and dont even try to argue that one. Snap! that just happened!
phil heath, thats one in a million...and the guy is light skinned so those calves are maybe coming from his white genes...but in the other hand guys like paul dillett and vince taylor had good calves, but again thats rare...99% of white bodybuilders have diamond shaped calves...another thing dickflea maybe youre mentally challenged but the man on the video above he might be from the DR but he sure as fuck is a negroid...
i would really like to know where you are getting your statistics from but I am a mentally challenged dickflea and was wondering if you would like to suck a fart out of my ass you limp dick mung licker. Knibb high football rules!
where the fuck are his calves...all i see is a tennis ball attached at the back of his knee...high short calves and tooth pick like gastrocnemius, which seems to be the case with 99% of black men chris cormier, shawn ray, johnnie jackson, ronnie coleman...calves like that shouldnt win you competitions..compare these calves to the following:
what about Phil Heath? hes black and he has some of the best calves in the sport. You bring up an interesting point though, if black people have such small calves why are they always way more athletic than white people? NBA, NFL, Olympic sprinters, jumpers,etc. White man cant jump
actually Shawn Ray had pretty good calfs with pretty gastrocnemius. don't forget Chris Dickerson, Vince Taylor, Johnny Fuller, Charles Clairmonte, Sergio Olivia, Paul Dillet and even Iris Kyle to name a few.
nooo man shawn ray has short terrible calves. charles clairmonte isnt even full black mate and neither is chris dickerson. genetically the typical negroid does not have good calves. paul dillet and vince taylor are the only two full blck bb with good calves ive see thus far.
not at all. shawn ray had very good calves...cut..both heads. Not as long as Chris but definitely not a weak body part. As for Chris or Charles I'm not sure if they are mixed so I can't comment. However that still doesn't exclude Sergio, Johnny or Iris. As for bodybuilding remember...it's the entire package. Not just an outstanding body part. Hell Dorian had awesome calves, back and hams..but no abs, no shoulders, weak chest and even weak quads, not to mention horrible biceps. Yet he won.
dorian had amazing deltoids and quads, very much in proportion to the rest of his physique. he did have genetically weak, flat biceps and abs were kind of odd, however those were his own personal traits, not racial.
by and large blacks have small high calves, nothing racist, it is a fact. all black guys at my gym point out that their genetically at a disatvantage when it comes to calves. all the time i see black guys with huge upper bodies and twig like legs.
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elijahhawaii 4 months ago
legs are freaky O_x
poooooow 11 months ago
steroids go round in circles, if u wanna b the best then u have to beat the best, they take steroids so u gotta take em, then the young generation come round, they again wanna b the best, so they gotta take steroids to. if u wanna b the best u gotta take em, tho remember the side effects!!
TheRulaBaby 11 months ago
LOL @ 7:18
aaron4747 11 months ago
Seine beine sehen wie Krüppel aus xDDD
HabboThriller 1 year ago
Die beine sehn voll EKLIG aus :Kotz:
HabboThriller 1 year ago
weirdest looking calves, looks like drumsticks
paulanka2000 1 year ago 2
roids play a part.... But u have to admire and respect his hard work
TMays241 1 year ago 5
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Rihasnu 1 year ago
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Kolashov 1 year ago
I feel sorry for his health to all who use steroids
Fredoooo123 1 year ago
don't ever talk about roids! it sucks..
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321webster 1 year ago
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lanham100p 1 year ago
roids or not vic fucked mor bitches then you
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allistardark 2 years ago
stop hateing hating bc u cant do that fkin herbs hate bc there fat n lazy lmao if u knew ne thing realy dr have not shown ne proof that what they say roiids do all this bad sht i dont do it but its lies for the dam voern ment i know ppl who take them bc they lack from birth no homones n tesosterone in there bodys go to drs n have them injected n there liveing n healthy stop bliveing wa tv ses n reserch bc drs that lie havent done the reserch
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
wtf it looks like he has tumors in his legs
MrMD23 2 years ago
@MrMD23 and u got them in ur brain.
studywar 2 years ago
wtf your cool
MrMD23 2 years ago
Dnt hate Bodybuilding cuz dis is a great sport and only dedicated ppl r in this sport, so go too hell haters.
jaimebb 2 years ago 5
7:20 he got a eyefull
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Victor is a cock sucker!!!
NotUrPersonalArmySon 2 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
GODDAMIT U TALK A LOT OF SHIT
MsElmontro 1 year ago
@allistardark what he wants is making u angry, and he succeeds, so he is happy.
dafaucas 1 year ago
hey dip shit !!! if you dont like what you see change the fucking channel cause everyone else is tired of hearing you bitch about your little discomforts if you really dont like steriods then dont watch or blog about these people!!.
CATZK 10 months ago
It's part of the sport get over it superpredatorr and steroidsr4losers you guys are skinny little fucks that don' t even train so don't bother going on every video and posting that shit its stupid we get your point and just accept it
thenextprodigy2 2 years ago 7
@thenextprodigy2 its not just part of bodybuilding, its part of every sport. baseball, basketball, football. they all do it. those who think athletes in other sports dont do it are living in a fairy tale. all the athletes got where they are cause they took a chance. i agree with you prodigy2.
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TheParker1976 1 year ago
@thenextprodigy2 OMG totally correct. These little pc nerdguys just need greatness to leech of like a tit from their momma. its the only thing they have to do every day it seems. Hate on those who enjoy even the slightest recgonition. Pretty much the only way to be good in this sport is to have ur name tossed around everywhere right?
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i wonder how big he is? inches?
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u can tell its his left that got hacked up eh dudes and gals
dreadhead12345678 2 years ago
7:19 - 7:23, lol.
BigRonLovesAnna 2 years ago 3
dallasgangsta187, his trainings aren't lame, he just had to train on that way, cause he had injury.
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BigRonLovesAnna 2 years ago 5
SteroidsAreForLosers <-- how come i see this guy in EVERY BB video ... dont he have nothing better to do ... he must been bullied pretty badly when he was college by some dude who took steroid.
makkymokky 2 years ago 3
or...maybe SteroidsAreForLosers got sodomized or ass raped when he was in college by some dude who took steroids.
jxk2790 2 years ago 2
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elijahhawaii 2 years ago
steroids?!?! Who cares about steroids?!?! i just wanna lick his caramel nutz!!!!
elijahhawaii 2 years ago
i hope you fucking die in the most horrible way
steroidsR4queers 2 years ago
ah so by dying in the most horrible way, you mean by having sex with you
elijahhawaii 2 years ago
@steroidsR4queers The only way he would die in the most horrible way would be is you were the last thing he ever saw.
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TheTruthAboutSteroid 2 years ago
his workouts are lame
dallasgangsta187 2 years ago
in this video he's still doing rehab on his knee so he's not going to do anything too heavy and risk re-injury, but yeah it's not really worth watching someone do super light lifts
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anabolicsR4monsters 2 years ago 3
dude his calf muscules look fake....
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SteroidsAreForLosers 2 years ago
SAFL= Huge douche with nothing important to do with his life.
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SteroidsAreForLosers 2 years ago
Wow, you didn't even try to say anything intelligent. Good job on being an ignorant prick. Better luck next time, maybe you'll have an epiphany and figure out something to say that you haven't said five hundred times.
P.S. Still a douche.
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SteroidsAreForLosers 2 years ago
pumpkins in his legs lol
KTFO1212 2 years ago
(.)Y(.)
SteroidsR4success 2 years ago 2
i think his abs are a bit too think, but so are everyone else's at least his stomach isn't ridiculously distended
abcd827 2 years ago
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ColemanCutler20 2 years ago
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Nice dry look.. But I wasn't surprised about his tendon tearing in his leg. Abuse of steroids will do that to you, dry brittle joints and tendons.
Lemurai 2 years ago
not all steroids...anadrol for example would make you retain water instead of dry you out...if you abuse any drug you can hurt yourself...i am pretty dure there is no conclusive evidence ssaying that gear can directly contribute to injury. except maybe your muscle grows faster than your tendons causing tears. but you cant just say abuse of steroids will do that too you it is not that simple. winstrol can dry out joint some though. in some people.
johnperry89 2 years ago
his legs will let him down and so wont win the 09 olympia . hope he comes in shape like 07 when he should have won.
LORDCRAWFORD 2 years ago
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I could out run him though. His legs have strenght, don't seem to have much power or twitch (twitch is used in terms of quick movements as cutting, turning, reversing, accelerating).
patsfan2000 3 years ago
anyone ever said your an idiot?
adamsmith85 2 years ago
anyone ever said it to me? yes, and they've also called me a smartass, anyting else you want to confirm?
Look, i'm sorry if my knowledge of the human body is not as in depth as yours. How about you teach me something instead of calling me an idiot.
patsfan2000 2 years ago
He will win the 2009 Mr Olympia!
bojanglesk88 3 years ago 3
if he doesnt ill be pissed
x3huesos 3 years ago 2
naa phil heath will, watch out
jjjjl241 3 years ago
I don't know about Heath... He's really good but I still think he's too unproportionate and rather narrow... But I'm positive he'll the crack the top 5.
bojanglesk88 3 years ago
alguien sabe cde donde es victor martines de q pais ?
juliokyd 3 years ago
From Dominican Republic!!
Freddyzc 3 years ago
A lot of hate on the message boards man. You know racism is an equal opportunity thing. However I must admit that when I view videos of white people on youtube I don't read a lot of negative comments about their race. Of course I don't know who is behind a computer. Yet everytime it's a video of a black person or person of color there are racial comments. Again I don't know who's behind a computer it's something I've noticed.
spankybighead 3 years ago
no racism here we're duscussing genetics but some people as soon as you metnion the words balck and bad get on the defensive. the high calves of the black man is a known fact. you cant fight your genes. and it isnt stopping the lieks of ronnie coleman with no so pleasing calves win 8 mr Os. and it is exactly thes short calves that make black people jump higher and run faster.
hekoka 3 years ago
Hmmm..well look at like this. I don't see negative racial comments against whites on you tube as frequently. Usually you see that in response to some negative/ignorant comment. The important thing here is no body builder is perfect. Read my Dorian comment in my other post. Yet I don't complain about him winning mainly because I'm not an official judge and too it's a very subject sport. Oh well we all have our opinions.
spankybighead 3 years ago
mate im not racist. if i was i would be saying a lot more than blacks genetically have weak calves. victor martinez is an awesome bodybiulder and probably all around guy, however when discussing his calves you cant overlook them.
im just pointing out a scientific fact with plenty of visual evidence, if people wanna play hte racist card, claim victimhood, label others racist then thats their problem.
hekoka 3 years ago
I can name plenty of caucasoid bodybuilders with weak calf development. Shall I name a few?
spankybighead 3 years ago
Jusup Wilkosz, Frank Zane, Jacues Neuville, Mike Mentzer...yeah mr. heavey duty, Dennis Tinerino, Mike Katz, Craig Titus, Vince Galanti, Bob Cirello, Jimmy Mentis, Dennis Wolf...all of which were competitive on a national or professional level. As for Dorian his front quads were not strong. His delts even weaker...no separation in the heads via back double biceps, not to mention a weak chest. Shall I name more?
spankybighead 3 years ago
theres a difference between weak calf development and having genetically inferior calves such as short short gastrocnemius and thin soleus.
- frank zane had ,not the biggest, but beautiful diamond shaped calves.
- dennis wolf and jimmy mentis had/has the worst calves out there.
- craig titus had oddly shaped calves. long with terrible shape. doesnt deserve mentioning
all the rest had good calfs compared e.g. to coleman, serge nubert, cormier, darrem charles, melvin anthony, roc shabazz etc.
hekoka 3 years ago
wow you left out at least 2/3's of the white body builders I mentioned. well we all have our opinion.
By the way...Dorian had nothing near perfect except for maybe hams and calves. Chest?...please! Delts...big and thick but heads not clearly visible. As for my likes don't pretend to know what I like. I like neither Coleman or Arnold.
spankybighead 3 years ago
like i said all those BB had long "gastrocnemius" with thick "soleus" calves with the exception of jimmy mantis who has short gastrocnemius. this is not a comparitive argument, its a scientific fact with plenty of visual evidence that cant be denied. its a genetic trait, its the same as saying that most mediterraneans dont have blue eyes but most nordics do.
separatino is somehwat genetic too, cris cromier doesnt have this spearation you talk about but hes physique is admired by many.
hekoka 3 years ago
First off I never ever mentioned a word about Chris Comier. Check the posts. Second the white body builders I mentioned lacked calf development of all kinds. "High calves" and so on. Also if black body builders lack the genetic trait to build thick calves why mention it's a "lack of hard work"...it's genetic right? If it's a lack of hard work for blacks then what's the excuse of white's with high calves? Bottom line anyone can pick at things and link race.
spankybighead 3 years ago
nonono you misunderstand and take this very personally. bb dont get judged on genetic flaws as they cant be altered, you get judged on the work youve invested. victor martinez wins shows because he works hard despite his genetically flawed calves.
i mentioned chris cormier because hes a top bb yet he doesnt posses exceptinal separation.
i keep saying theres exceptions to most rules but "MOST" black dudes and girls i see have high calves. its a visual fact, can you prove me wrong?!
hekoka 3 years ago
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lol they also have big noses
jshipp2 3 years ago
as for forian only left torn biceps looked terrible, his other arm was well developed. his abs terrible. everything else wsa near perfect.
-chest was sqaure and thick. manly shaped. or do you preferr arnolds and colemans hanging tits
- he didnt have cutler's clavicles, however his shoulders were thick and balanced. cromier has no separation in his delts but theyre still awesome.
plus having lats that wide will make your whole physique appear more narrow, as they flared out incredibly.
hekoka 3 years ago
i again repeat. im not making racist remarks. its a scientific fact. just like black sprinters will outrun white ones 8 out of 1o times.
you cant fight your genes, thats why the judges cant punish you for something you have no power over.
black guys in my gym constanyl complain about their calves. visual evidence is the most credible, all the stories in the world cant beat it.
if dorian had such a terrible physique i wonder why hes regarded as one of the greaetst ever, even by other BBs..
hekoka 3 years ago
LOL...what do you expect professionals to say about another former Mr.O. Hell they'll say Arnold was the greatest and that if he competed today he'd have the fortitude to bring up whatever is needed to be competitive. Hell I won't say Dorian didn't deserve to win. What I will say is we all have genetic differences that will appeal to a man made standard...especially body building. I know some black dudes with calves to die for.
spankybighead 3 years ago
i dont care if u liked greg valentino, youre not my girlfriend . theres many guitarists who are better than hendrix today but when general comparison is made its found theyre not as he was ahead of his time, same with arnold.
scientifically blacks have weak calves genetically as we see everyday. theres is throwbacks but the law of nature for most blacks dictates that they have short gastrocnemius muscles.
again you dont get judged for genetic flaws, only lack of work..
hekoka 3 years ago
Let me ask you this. What are genetic weakness that white's have...bodybuilding specifically?
spankybighead 3 years ago
white bb are flawless? lol kidding...its inevitable that you'll take this personal. but blacks have high muscle insertions in their calves, in one article i was reading in other muscles such as forearms...
whites have low muscle insertinos, in terms of aesthetics especially calves a white will have better calves 90% of the time.
a genetic weakness that whites might have is a poor ability to gain weight when compared to blacks. thats all i can thik of....
hekoka 3 years ago
also, skin color gives blacks the apearance of better definition and lines on stage cuz of the shadow... but white guys can tan to bring that in
Westmo18 2 years ago
pure mesomorph
go2class 3 years ago
oh yeah i almost forgot this is tiger woods ethnic make up >>>>>>>>
Eldrick "Tiger" Woods' exact background is as follows:
Mother: 1/2 Thai, 1/4 Caucasian, 1/4 Chinese
Father: 1/2 Black, 1/4 American Indian, 1/4 Chinese
that makes him only partially black
hekoka 3 years ago
fuck yeah we keep gymnastics, swimming, powerlifting events, worlds strongest man events, olympic lifting, cage fighting...retard is only partially black..
as for big dicks you might wanna check statistcs and not watch porn films who black male must fit the stereotype of black male=black dick...
the largest dick in the world belongs to a white male who happens to be gay...lol...
29 bodybuilders with high calves lol...practically every black male has small high calves, small legs in general
hekoka 3 years ago
this argument is pointless,each race has its strengths and weaknesses. Sorry for making fun of you. dont forget the 2008 mr olympia starts the 25th. peace
a391897 3 years ago
white man cant jump lol...black man cant swim...
what about gymnastics, swimming, mma, powerlifting, olympic lifting, worlds strongest man events?! white people dominate 99.99% of the time...get your little sister to suck your farts , dick or whatever because you probably are some inbred retarted individual
hekoka 3 years ago
in fact why the fuck am i arguing with a retard like you who thinks that "dominican" is a race. you could be white and be from the DR. nationality and ethnic group are not the same.
dexter jackson, chris cormier, coleman, j. jackson, martinez, melvin anthony and many others all have high calves. how many white bodybuilders with white calves can u name with high calves.
hekoka 3 years ago
leave my little sister out of this because she is retarted too. i looked up white bodybuilders with high calves and i found 29
Tiger Woods black ass dominates 100% of the time so how does that tie in with your 99.99% tweedle nuts. you can keep your gymnastics and swimming at least we have big dicks and dont even try to argue that one. Snap! that just happened!
a391897 3 years ago
phil heath, thats one in a million...and the guy is light skinned so those calves are maybe coming from his white genes...but in the other hand guys like paul dillett and vince taylor had good calves, but again thats rare...99% of white bodybuilders have diamond shaped calves...another thing dickflea maybe youre mentally challenged but the man on the video above he might be from the DR but he sure as fuck is a negroid...
hekoka 3 years ago
i would really like to know where you are getting your statistics from but I am a mentally challenged dickflea and was wondering if you would like to suck a fart out of my ass you limp dick mung licker. Knibb high football rules!
a391897 3 years ago
where the fuck are his calves...all i see is a tennis ball attached at the back of his knee...high short calves and tooth pick like gastrocnemius, which seems to be the case with 99% of black men chris cormier, shawn ray, johnnie jackson, ronnie coleman...calves like that shouldnt win you competitions..compare these calves to the following:
dorian yates
jay cutler
tom platz
gary strydom
etc..
hekoka 3 years ago
what about Phil Heath? hes black and he has some of the best calves in the sport. You bring up an interesting point though, if black people have such small calves why are they always way more athletic than white people? NBA, NFL, Olympic sprinters, jumpers,etc. White man cant jump
a391897 3 years ago
one more thing my little pussy fart, hes not black, he from the dominican republic
a391897 3 years ago
actually Shawn Ray had pretty good calfs with pretty gastrocnemius. don't forget Chris Dickerson, Vince Taylor, Johnny Fuller, Charles Clairmonte, Sergio Olivia, Paul Dillet and even Iris Kyle to name a few.
spankybighead 3 years ago
nooo man shawn ray has short terrible calves. charles clairmonte isnt even full black mate and neither is chris dickerson. genetically the typical negroid does not have good calves. paul dillet and vince taylor are the only two full blck bb with good calves ive see thus far.
hekoka 3 years ago
not at all. shawn ray had very good calves...cut..both heads. Not as long as Chris but definitely not a weak body part. As for Chris or Charles I'm not sure if they are mixed so I can't comment. However that still doesn't exclude Sergio, Johnny or Iris. As for bodybuilding remember...it's the entire package. Not just an outstanding body part. Hell Dorian had awesome calves, back and hams..but no abs, no shoulders, weak chest and even weak quads, not to mention horrible biceps. Yet he won.
spankybighead 3 years ago
dorian had amazing deltoids and quads, very much in proportion to the rest of his physique. he did have genetically weak, flat biceps and abs were kind of odd, however those were his own personal traits, not racial.
by and large blacks have small high calves, nothing racist, it is a fact. all black guys at my gym point out that their genetically at a disatvantage when it comes to calves. all the time i see black guys with huge upper bodies and twig like legs.
hekoka 3 years ago
haha buddy turns around fuck that
jrstr0ng3 3 years ago
If he were smart, he'd go to HOllywood and star in action films. He would be a number box office attraction right away especially with the growing Latino population.
He's bigger and stronger than Arnold ever was.
cutlerfan 3 years ago
You are right, Victor would be a succes in movies...!!
escritor58 3 years ago
The best, Victor got robbed last years Olympia, but he'll get it next year, u just see
jcg89 3 years ago
He will be on the Mr.O this year?
michalus 3 years ago
unfortunately not.
he will be next year in ASC
risco 3 years ago