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  • holy crap just think if they made a movie with lara's doppelganger-her crazy friend-through them in the movie now that would be awesome. love the series however i'm not so much as a fan of the puzzles though other people like them all i can say to that is more power to you.

  • doppy should stay with her sis :( xP

  • just saying... The sound it late with the movement... :(

  • the other scene was better

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  • You know what would be cool? I think it would be cool if lara would find a time travelling relic, go back in time, and command amelia with the weird sounding word to become who she once was.

    Yeah right.

    I wish.

  • This graphics are much better indeed.

  • .... that was not satisfying.

  • You miss a whole conversation in beneath the ashes if you wana hear what was said when the camera was down the hall watch the Lara's shadow version

  • your audio is messed up XD your like missing certain sounds like when she bursts through the thrall

    The laras shadows version of this cutscene is alot better there is a whole conversation inbetween

  • uh kk XD

  • Lol Lara gone evil!!

  • O: since when was this one out. XD

  • @iMushCake ....It's an extra for Tomb Raider: Underworld. They only have it for xBox, though. DX

  • omg at the part when the camera angle is behind them,i could hear whar theyre saying at it sounds exactly like what they said in laras shadow!!!!!

  • Woah! Doppelgaenger Lara is even sexier than the original!

  • besides, after sega saturn. tomb raider was basically the icon of psx. they shouldve continued anniversary, legend, and the underworld dlc to the ps3, seriously. plus, i really want a PS3...i want metal gear solid 4 so bad, lol.

  • CHRIST'S SAKE.

    WHY couldn't they have released this for PS3 aswell? why do they have to be suck CUNTS and release it ONLY for the fucking 360.

    well, if this carries on, they'll lose fans.

  • i agree i love tomb raider, but without this... im on the verge of depression =*(

    i NEED tomb raider =P

  • SAME D:>

    I might just betray my PS fangirlism and buy a 360 XD

    Srsly, I've been a fan since '96 when the first game was released, no way am i giving up over a silly expansion game >.>

  • omg, Do not be silly.

    if there's an special game 4 PS3 evryone is glad.

    Now There's something 4 360 evrybody is sawing. ;/

    just shut the Fckk up Youknow. and btw.;

    xbox360 ruulz!.

  • Uhm, okay I understood practically none of that.

    Well for starters it is unfair on PS3 gamers as they cannot play the expansion game if it's only on 360 and they can't afford an xbox.

    If you had read my comment carefully, you'd have noticed that I clearly wrote "buy a 360" and that I wasn't bad mouthing your precious 360.

    Pft, you're only telling me to shut the fuck up because you know my judgement is right :)

    You want me to write a lecture as to how much the PS3 is better than 360? Cos I wil

  • what? the only good things is that the playstation network is free, and it uses blu-ray/has a built in blu-ray player.

  • No, there are many reasons, 1 being that playstation uses over 9 component shells for the graphics, xbox only having 3.

    I'm not writing a lecture D< i lied... research the xbox and PS3 systems and do the math.

  • im not against ps3, i want one. im just broke and i know the 360 sold more and more people use it. so thats why i got it. :\

  • Oh fair do's.

    I dunno why the 360 is used more :S PS3 has so much more to offer, plus the graphics system is mind blowing : |

    I hate how microsoft seem to think they can gain control over the way the market is heading these days. Cause whatever they do - Sony will just outshine them. :)

  • Okay, when exactly does this take place in the game? After Lara has freed natla and just before the final level? Or at some other point? I'm seriously confused.

  • it is stupid i want to play it to but i don't have x-box i have ps and ps2.i saw somewere that this talking with lara and DG in level lara's shadow that talking was in the house when lara has two guns in DG everithing is burning around but DG is not on lara's side she just stoped with fighting and talking with she could fight back becuse she is fast but she did't why?

  • i gt the game on wii why didnt i get this part?

  • This is a 'bonus' level only exclusive to XBOX 360 I think

  • SOMETIMES.....

  • i personaly think "the magic word" is OHK ESHRIRA

  • this word is ork eshiva

  • nope it's ohk eshivar, you missed "R" LOL!!!!

  • ;DDDD yes, i missed xDD

    thx :D

  • .......is this a different game? after tomb raider underworld?

  • This is Extra Episode for TRU...

  • Gurr, i wish they had made this DLC for the PS3 too! Pfft. I wanna play Dopplehoe's adventure as well as this one!

  • I think her doppelgänger is really poor. =(

    Must be like hell to follow someones orders, to be just a copy from someone, to not have your own personality, to be No one...

  • Doppleganger from TR1 had no personality and only followed what Lara did. This one has a mind of its own and skin.

  • I know.

    Why are you telling me that?

    I played TR 1 myself. -,-

  • lara is still gorgeous than this dopegirl (whatever the fcuk her name is).

  • 1:04 Doppy looks like Lara on CD cover for AOD...Cool...

  • xbox sucks ass

  • Jealous much?

  • What does lara say to control the doppelganger? lol i cant understand it

  • basically, "obey me now, follow no one's commands, you are a slave to no one." find the cutscenes from Lara's Shadow for a direct quote. no one controls the doppelganger now, the doppelganger just obeys lara, like kids obey their parents.

  • also she calls it Ohk Eshiva

  • something like: Okeshyva...

  • Lawl, she doesn't care that Allister died XD

  • @SophineisAwesome Well, it's not that. Doppelganger is supposed to do whatever her master is ordering, and didn't do it on purpose! Anyway, after that, Doppelganger killed Natla...well, if she has survived again or appear in any other game then they probably have nothing else to do and the franchise dies.

  • @SophineisAwesome of course she does. but since natla used the doppleganger to kill alister, lara is using it to kill natla for alister's vengence

  • @SophineisAwesome, I know it's a joke you telling, but, if you haven't heard right, Lara used the Doppelganger as an instrument for his revenge

  • I finish game but I dont play in this round =D WHY?

  • Its an Add on for "Tomb Raider Underworld" Xbox360 Version its ONLY for Xbox360. Its so gay that they are doing this i dont want a xbox but now i have to get one >:( and ill have to play this game with there complex controlers *Crys*

  • what program you use to rec?

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  • so does that mean the doppelganger is a troll??

    It said that her father used the carved writing on the said artifact to make trolls follow.....ohhhh..so now the doppelganger is a troll........yeah.....and if her father found the artifact...why would it be in the deeper dungeons rather than his gallery or something....was the thing unmovable??

    WTFH!!!!

  • Thrawls, or however it's spelled, not trolls :D

  • are the two different? I mean, is thrall different from trolls? "thralls" is the correct spelling by the way......

  • Did they improve the graphics in the expansion pack?  It looks better.....

  • @TheRealSimsMaster The Enine eas the same I think. But maybe they so more work in the cutscenes. It really looks better!

  • What does Lara say between 42-47? I hear mumbling, but I can't make it out! =/

  • You find out in Lara's Shadow =D

  • Thanks! I thought as much.... I wan't to know now!!! lol

  • "obey me and ignore all commands. you are a slave to no one". That's what Lara said to the doppleganger.

  • EXCELLENT! How on earth did you figure that one out?

  • i looked at the lara's shadow cutscenes first, then beneath the surface.

  • actually its "Then tell me this, What the hell are you"

  • and how many alternative costumes are out there in maketplace?

  • I wan thinking about the outfits, how much are them on marketplace? cuz they are really cut!

  • I think this level is between Croft Resident and the Mexico level... isn't it?

    it's during the game of Underworld... it's just an alternative storyway... isn't it?

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  • I really don't get it... Lara killed Natla in underworld.. and if this is after underworld and lara is telling the doppleganger to go kill natla... wtf... I think the writers stuffed up there, maybe they should of fixed there stories before they created these levels.. I read somewhere that these were actually meant to be in the game but they couldn't fit them on the disk.. so maybe these were meant to be just after the.. OH forget it makes NO sence!!

  • this takes place after the game eidos confirms this

  • You find out all of this in Lara's Shadow

  • I know.. but look when i posted that comment.. Lara's Shadow came out 2 days ago... my comment was 4 days ago.. do you see the logic ;P

  • oh ok :D Didn't think of that :3

  • it does ;D

    if you've seen Lara's shadow, cause this is and old comment so, like, yeah.

  • Thanks for uploading it! =)

  • best scene evarz

  • The gameplay of this looks exactly like a level in the Wii version of Underworld. Does anyone know if it is the same?

  • Ok people, this happens AFTER Underworld, just straight after it, where lara come home or something to get somebelongings and check out if theres anyhting else. THEN she finds the stone, During Underworld The doppleganger falls in the eitr which is the blue stuff and so does Natla, the two are not human so they cant turn into thralls, but Amelia laras mum was. So maybe it still has the same effect on the doppleganger but i dont know with Natla. So now Lara can control doppleganger with the word.

  • I thought that maybe Shadow and Ashes would come out together in a pack for around 800 points, not be 800 separetly. That's 1600 for both, 400 points more than the Lost and Damned for GTAIV...

  • god damn it, it's a lot of points 0.0...

  • ok everyone ashes is after the ending because this happened after she hurt natla, now douppleghanger is going 2 finish the job.

  • I am desperate to play Beneath The Ashes and Lara's Shadow I am thinking of getting an XBOX 360. Could someone please explain how to download these two levels and the outfits and what you need to get on XBOX Live Market. I have Tomb Raider Underworld on PS3, PS2 & Wii. I have heard rumours that Crystal Dynamics and Eidos are planning to release this for the PS3.

  • You create an account on Xbox Live and once you have set up your account you have access to the Xbox Marketplace. Just make sure you buy the Xbox live points cards in order to purchase items.

  • Beneath the Ashes takes place after the ending of Underworld. At the beginning of the level it's said that Lara is in the ruins beneath the remains of Croft Manor.

    And in Tomb Raider Anniversary, they did show Natla falling in lava but she is a God. I think Lara probably injured Natla with Thor's hammer.

  • Not only that but maybe laras shadow mission might include natla, notice that lara said make sure natla suffers so i think that the doppelgangers mission is to make natla suffer.

  • is this game coming for PC??

  • this has to be AFTER underworld, and Natla HAS TO still be alive. beause at the end of Underworld, Natla had control of the doppelganger, this is the first time Lara's took control of it.

  • This is happening before the game ends...Natla not dead yet,

  • AGH!

    i loved this idea, but too bad its not for PC!

  • what the hell, how come i never seen that clip?? i have TRU on the DS.

  • it's a download-able level, it's not in the game itself.

  • huh? so that mean i can't get from the pS2??

  • what? natla's not dead... again?? WHY?

  • Well... I guess the rumors is true...Beneath the ashes was IN the game itself. Hear carefully what is she saying in the end: " You letting her go!? She killed Alister! And now she is the instrument of hhis vengeance". Natla is not dead yet...That is happening before the game itself ends...

  • pretty cool that they can add new levels like that...

  • Okay so does this mean Natla didn't die after being slammed to death by Thors Hammer? and does Natla now have his hammer, well no she can't cause Lara still has the gloves and belt, IDK i'm so lost lol but yea can someone explain??

  • no i dont really get it either cos even if it was in the main game then wouldnt lara have control of her double later on when she attacks amanda,or is that why she attacks amanda in the first place,but then lara trys to get her with the hammer,it doesnt make sense :S

  • You mean the Doppelganger that attacks Amanda. The Doppelganger threw amanda away because she both the doppelhoe and Natla knew Lara was going to smash the glass cage Natla was in to let her free. So the DG allowed Lara to smash Natla free. then they would kill Lara.

  • I meant Lara's shadow by the way...

  • By the looks of it you don't fight natla as I believe you fight Lara. Go to the Tomb Raider site. They have new screen shots of it too.

  • If you finished a book, but thought it wasn't the best you could have done with that concept and idea, would you still have it published?

  • Natla is still alive. The second DLC is called Lara's Shadow. I gaurantee you have to play as the Doppelganger and the goal is to kill Natla because Lara isnt strong enough to do it herself.

  • Well that's obvious they announced it on there website a long time ago b4 beneath the ashes was released

  • they never actually showed the doppelganger die! they just showed her being thrown off the edge of a cliff. there could have been a ledge or something that she grabbed onto.

  • actually, it would make more sense if the doppleganger went into the imulsion (blue stuff), because then she would be a thrall which would let lara control her

  • yea, but she's still a doppelganger...she's not a thrall.

  • She must've fell on the Eitr, but still resisted the zombification effect somehow (maybe Natla made sure she made her so she could retain her mind in case this happened), but she still has Eitr in her in any case, so that's why she can be controlled.

  • Ok first of all didn't lara take the excalibur with her in the ending of TRU?

    And the doppleganger has a camera just like Lara??

  • yes but this is during underworld. this is not after the end of underworld because the doppelganger was dead at the end of underworld and also natla

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  • dude, this after underworld's story hense the name 'beneath the ashes'

  • Its not after it, its still the main story.

    They took it out to make money

  • no they didnt. my dad works in crystal dynamics , ass hole!

  • Lol. its asshole, not ass hole. asshole

  • well in the begin of underworld, the croft mansion was gone. So it is at the same time as the original underworld even the makers say that:S

    And I´m a girl and not a dude

  • wel maybe Natla turned into a thrall aswel then.

  • is this game on tombraider underworld or do you specialy have to buy it ?

  • bah its out of sync

  • Hey I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what natla says after Lara says correct..?

    I can't make it out :(

  • natla? you mean doppleganger?

  • Em.. Is it not Natla's voice after Lara says correct?? I'm sure I can hear her voice at 0:43 =\

    I just can't make out what she's saying...

  • I couldn't hear natla after Lara said "correct". I rewatched the ending just now and I couldn't hear her.

  • It's ok Cheapskin

    Thanks for your help anyways :D

    This looks brilliant..

    Really crap that it's only on xbox!! >:(

  • I hope what she said at the end is the continuation of the TR series. I love playing them so much. BTW didn't lara kill natla after she destroyed Jörmungander, at the end of underworld?

  • wow! the doppenganer or something smiled when she said make sure natla sufers .

  • didn't lara kill natla with thors hammer!!!

  • So if this was after TR:U ending ( I got a reply saying it was) What does she mean by " make Natla suffer?" is she still alive again?

  • does any1 know when we'll see some footage or screen shots of lara's shadow

  • and besides the storyline would be weird, cus like she doesn't need the crazy thing to control them she just wanted the hammer, but like after teh arctic she goes back home to search "beneath the ashes"

  • ok right does any1 remember the interviews were the person said the 2 dlc's are set after underworld? if they were meant to be in thyem between the story of underworld it would just suck

  • Originaly posted by Dusk Knight from TRForums:

    1)I'm pretty sure BTA and LS are meant to take place before the game's regular ending. Having it tacked on afterwards would have detracted from the main story. At least for me. Plus, no one seems to have a clear answer as to why Natla and the doppelganger are back. The simplest and most obvious answer is that they have not left yet. This also does not undermine the resolution of the main plot as we know it, like other explanations do.

  • 2)Shortly after the regular Croft Manor level makes the most sense.

    As for why Lara doesn't use the word or control the doppelganger and thralls in the main game, it's likely because these are deleted segments. Like deleted scenes from a movie, they were taken out of the game, and changes were made to the plot accommodate that. So unless LS has a tidy explanation for how everything fits into place, BTA and LS are probably non-canon.

  • and why can Lara control the doppelganger?? just because she felt in the eitr. and because of this bta takes place after the normal underworld story.

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  • like i said because she felt in the eitr

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  • i dont think so.because all other thralls are totally diffrent and not that strong.and the doppelganger can not be killed by jumping on her :D:D

  • i already beated this extra level on my xbox360,its rather a cool story this new chaper

    i can't wait until Lara's shadow comes out.

    But that Natla is still alive?!i thought she was dead after she got that hamer smashed on her.wel maybe she is now too effected with the eithr,because eithr makes you a slave.

  • So wait... Beneath the Ashes is the REAL ending for Underworld? So the ending in Underworld isn't a full ending, and to actually find out what happens next we need to play this as well? What if we've got a console/PC which the DLC isn't available on?

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  • natlas voice after lara said correct

  • THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE STORY AFTER TRU!!! Natla and the doppleganger are still alive because of the blue liquid. And Lara, can now control them by saying the word (I think "akechiba")

    Also, Lara's Shadow may be the story when you play the doppleganger after Lara ordered you to make Natla suffer...

  • No, he confirmed that stuff that was previously cutted from the game for different reasons, were used on the DLC, however this 2 levels were never planed to be on the game

  • Lara is so evil! haiohaoihao

  • how do u know that croftman79? ok so maybe lara can control the doppleganger because she fell in the liquid, so maybe cus she was in it some crazy thing happened and the doppleganger has to obey lara, like a thrall. and yes u might ask but natla fell in aswell can she control natla now, but natla is a powerful god. and also will the doopleganger ever speak bacaues if not lara's shadow could be boring everything she does she just stays quiet. i dunno just my thoughts

  • This level was supposed to be after Croft Manor level but CD cut it out. That is why Natla and doppleganger are still alive. The DLC levels are side stories that are set somwhere between manor level and the Andaman sea level in the TRU.

  • but how would that be in between those levels if the doppelganger helps natla till the end?

  • I said that the DLC is between manor level and Andaman sea level, because in the Andaman level the doppelganger is already against Lara and in Lara's Shadow we will have to find out why the doppel didn't finish her job and reunite with Natla

  • Not really, according to the press release this happens after TRU, Lara goes straight to Mexico after Crofr Manor

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  • Why you listen to the press when the creative director Eric Lindstrom confirmed that both Beneath the Ashes and Lara's Shadow were supposed to be in Tomb Raider Underworld as actual levels, but they cut it out because there was not enough space on the disc or something like that.

  • (sorry for the late reply)

    Stuff like puzzles, and rooms designs, but not the full levels, neither the story in then.

    It's clear now that both DLC levels happen after the events in TRU

  • wow... Lara is evil:D

    I'd love to play it, but i don't have an xbox.. :(

    i hate that its exclusive...

  • IS NATLA ALIVE THEN!?!

  • I was thinking the same thing.. I was pretty sure that when Lara threw Thor's Hammer at her that it killed her. I mean, wasn't that kinda the point of throwing the hammer at her in the first place?

  • When you hear them taking I think Lara might be asking whether or not natla is still alive; seen as the doppelganger still is - I don't know.

    Anyway it is cool that she has control over the doppelganger now.

  • Nice level, sad that it is for x360 only

  • the doppelganger must be a thrall or summit because that word controls thralls

  • Yeah..but she doesn't look like one..

    And besides..She didn't call the Doppel with the word..It was like it came by it's own to kill her..

  • maybe she did'nt spend that long in the eitr, and wen it ran at her she shouted it

  • lol?

    i don't think so..

  • Doppelganger fall into the blue liquid in Underworld, she is a thrall now. If her body is not so corrupted as the other thrall maybe is for de time. Otherwise, her body is not in perfect state, is a little bit dead... in Underworld too

  • I know your comment was from long ago, but i must clear this up.. the doppelganger was created with the "blue liquid" and anything created with it, has to follow anyones order that speaks the word Ohk Eshiver. you have probably realized this by now.. but i just needed to say it.

  • woow so cool doppe is in control of Lara...:) ım sad about that ı cant able to play this so ı havent xbox...:(

  • O_O