The Take - Trailer

[ja9395]

"There's another word: EXPROPRIATION"

[hellerase]

WORKERS OF THE WORLD FUCKING UNITE!!!

[serpadms]

Great movie. I saw the movie at my Latin American class in College. Buena pelicula.

[22jLee]

and what's crazy is that it wasn't that long ago....! let the people of the world laugh now muhhaahaha

[boxcarbouche]

BOOM-SHACK-A-LACKA!

[miljenko1]

Is this about worker's self-management? If it is, its a failed system. It existed in Yugoslavia throughout its post-war history, and it was inefficient. Very soon, the new "workers-appointed" board members and state-run corporate bureaucracy take over and make it equally unequitable for the workers. Plus in capitalist firms, there's at leas competition-driven efficiency, whereas in these socialist self-managed corporations, there's no real incentive apart from lining the apparatchiks' pockets.

[670Kiester]

Looks really good. btw thoughtmaybe,com pointed me to this, lot's more in a similar vein there (e.g Adam Curtis' films)

[blackbbbbiochip]

this cop that shot can break your head, it's not a problem

[blackbbbbiochip]

God bless the people of Argentina

[wright2anthony]

0:40 woman kicks through window while drinking Yerba Mate!!!

[felipipi]

torrent for this movie?

[BlutEisenRegel]

People get fired. That's life. Get over it?

[Zolduch]

@BlutEisenRegel No thanks, ill rather fight

[ericclaptonismygod31]

If the workers agree to purchase the company from the other owners and work in a co-operative, than this is consistent with property rights. Call it "libertarian socialism" if you like, but they are still working within a "market" system.

People working outside a "co-operative" system agree to sell their labour for whatever compensation they recieve from the owners of the business. You call it exploitation? Are you a slave?

[ericclaptonismygod31]

Socialist libertarians always confuse me. How is it possible for some people to steal the wealth of others in a libertarian society? Theft by the masses is what occurs in socialist countries, so take the libertarian part out of the term.

What happened in Argentina is not the same as what is happening in the USA. The USA is losing its hegemony (partly due to this crisis), but please look closer before you make silly comparisons.

[Pogs4Fathersday]

@ericclaptonismygod31 Wait, are you trying to compare libertarian socialism with statist social democracy? I fear that such comparisons won't be particularly useful due to the differences in how the workers relate to the means of production. As far as the question of theft is concerned, one could easily make the assertion that capital interests are directly opposed to that of the worker and means of self-management are equitable alternatives to exploitation.

[salvadory]

@ericclaptonismygod31 if you trace the doctrines of friedman economics you see its doing exactly what happened in argentina - complete deregualtion- war on trade unions- inreased privatization-- the top teir increasing their wealth- decline of the middle class and increased poor- lower wages benefits and high unemployment- Kleins book the shock doctrine is not a condemnation of capitalism but of the extreme corporate capitalism we are seeing now in america read it and feel free to discuss

[BrettDunbar]

Socialists deserve to be killed for free people everywhere.

[raisinsunn]

Yess, Argentians unite take back your country, your home, your property, your riches, send the corporate bloodsuckers to hell. Don't let them do you. Shall you die now or later as a hero or as an exploited slave. Forca

[BrettDunbar]

@raisinsunn Nobody is exploiting you. YOU ARE EXPLOITING OTHER PEOPLE!! WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?

ASSHOLE SOCIALIST CUNTRAG!!!

[lordfedeh]

we are made of it!

[kriskahn21]

Saw this for the first time last year in a Political Sociology course. So powerful! Thank you for sharing it on YouTube and Google. It is so relevant to our lives to day.

[CreandoRevolucion]

it`s no anarchy! It`s another way to produce. One factory may chose to pay equal salary to all the workers; other can find another way. If the sistem fail, you can create new alternatives.

[BrettDunbar]

@CreandoRevolucion LOL it's not slavery IF THEY'RE fucking paying you money to work for them. Retard.

[seanotube85]

If these filthy rich factory owners owe their workers their money, and they're not paying up, and the government's letting them get away with it, then I'm 100% on the side of these workers.

Where government fails, anarchy must prevail.

[BrettDunbar]

@seanotube85 Filthy rich owners? AHAHAHAHHAA Us capitalists are usually the clean and intelligent ones. It's you "people" that are the scumbags and thieves.

[seanotube85]

@BrettDunbar They OWED the workers wages for working. They were NOT paying up. The government was NOT settling this issue, so they took action for themselves. "capitalists are usually the clean and intelligent ones"—OBVIOUSLY not in this case ya dumb shit. But you're not too concerned with facts, are you?

[BrettDunbar]

@seanotube85 Oh, well I didn't know that. In that case it wasn't stealing.

Actually staying in the factory until the bosses paid them the wages(THE WAGES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY AGREED UPON), and forcing the bosses to pay them their wages is a capitalist thing to do.

But forcing them to pay a higher wage than the market dictates is evil and socialist.

[salvadory]

@BrettDunbar not when the profits of the bosses and ceos and investors goes through the roof and yet the workers see no increase- welcome to the new world of corporate capitalism! The workers arent socialist- they are just asking for what is deserved- funny how in the us the wealthy have increased their wealth but workers wages have flatlined- benefits are disappearing- - did you know the newly employed are accepting a 17-20% decrease in wages/ benes while corporate profit are up to record level

[ericclaptonismygod31]

Saw the doco, and know about the uber-rich socialists Avi and Naomi.

From what I remember of the doco, the employers should have paid the back wages they owed to the workers, however the property belongs to the empoyers and investors. The makers sell their labour and the empoyers sell their property to the consumers (that is us). The fascist tone of these postings kinda scares me, but if people want to live in a Marxist commune, am sure there are places taking new members. Have a look around.

[BrettDunbar]

@ericclaptonismygod31 Thanks for telling the truth bro. Peace.

[spinalfluidontap]

People that actually give a fuck and do something about it blow my mind!

[ericclaptonismygod31]

As long as joining the commune is voluntary and no violence (or the threat of violence) is used to force people.

The problem comes when authoritarians use the state to steal people`s savings and "redistribute" to those who have squandered.

You fascist pigs remind me of Peron, El Duche, Hitler. Fit to be hung!

[radicalhit]

its ironic, they're fit to be 'hanged'. you made the same mistake as zack de la rocha did in one of his speeches. its meant to be a compliment in a way by the way

[AndrewMann552]

All power to the workers!

Here in America we've already been looted to death by the fatcats!

[KARStarla]

You said it, this is amazing, the people is where its at, the fatcats are reason for the countries ruin

[ericclaptonismygod31]

my advise would be for you to travel and get some experience in emerging economies as they are overwhelmingly pro-freedom. consider yourself lucky that you and your family could enjoy free choice in the west.

however, if you are anxious to imporision yourself, try living on a commune or join a workers co-operative. cuba would be another choice!

[manoverde84]

@ericclaptonismygod31

Idiotic man cannot tell the difference between a workers co-op or a state run capitalist state like Cuba! All the "Communist" countries did was nationalize the contradictions in capitalism and replaced owners with bureaucrats to own the means of production. This movie represents more of the dream than Cuba, NK, or the former USSR. Look up the Mondragon Co. in the Basque Region of Spain and see how a co-op transformed that region. Get a clue, cappie!

[ericclaptonismygod31]

libertarianism is about repecting other people and their things. liberty does not mean the right to steal what does not belong to you.

[ericclaptonismygod31]

anarco-socialist is a more correct term. do not abuse the language with contradictions like libertarian socialism.

when a governmental authority be it the state or a local council intervenes in the economy to force the redistribution of people`s property, there can be no liberty for people. the documentary is about some agentine workers who temporarily stole their employer`s property and sold goods within a mostly capitalist economy. things changed when the courts ruled it illegal.

[pizdekator]

employers left

[manoverde84]

@ericclaptonismygod31 That's because the state is in favor of private property rights that benefit the rich. All capitalists states are like this. Only someone who subscribes to the capital theory of value and defends the capitalist conception of property rights can believe that the workers "stole" the factory. They created more value than the initial capital put into the factory which in turn exploits their labor. Get a clue and educate yourself. Econ 101 is a joke in most schools.

[BrettDunbar]

@manoverde84 LOL Marxism has NOTHING to do with real economics. YOU LITERALLY DON'T THINK THINKS HAVE SUBJECTIVE WORTH!! HAHAHAHHAHAH You literally fucking think that things don't have personal worth to you? You don't put a value on your food, on your clothing etc?

Are you retarded.

Marxists are fucking creationists and liars. Marx was a racist piece of shit that caused the deaths of 100 million people.

[ericclaptonismygod31]

Libertarian socialism is a contradiction in terms. Libertarianism is about being free from coersion and state control, socialism is about using the state to attack people percieved to be socio-economically better off and economic planning. Any reputable scholors who espouse such views that I could read up on?

[ateixeira82]

Chomsky for instance. Or any other anarcho-socialist thinker.

What happened in Argentina is libertarian socialism in action.

Socialism doesn't need a state. That's just bad press.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

no.

Voluntary Communes (Libertarian Socialism) requires no coercion. It is also stateless.

Libertarianism is seen as breaking free from the shackles imposed by the state and corporations. Libertarianism started in foreign countries (not the United States). The Libertarianism you have in the United States is a perversion of the true meaning of Liberty. In essence the Anarcho-Capitalist bs your Libertarian movement supports ends up enslaving the masses and creating the system you have today.

[manoverde84]

@TheElMoIsEviL

Thank You! American Capitalist Right-Libertarianism is a sick perversion of the true Libertarianism that was founded in Europe by socialist thinkers. Libertarian Socialism is the continuation of the great Enlightenment thinkers of that day. The ideas of liberty taken to their logical conclusion!

Anarcho-Capitalist and American Libertarians are delusional if they think they have claim to libertarianism.

[BrettDunbar]

@manoverde84 Bullshit. Quit fucking lying. Leftist Libertarianism is an oxymoron. The founding fathers of the USA were TRUE libertarians wayyy before this socialist nightmare took hold of humanity.

Enjoy being indoctrinated and an evil asshole.

[manoverde84]

@ericclaptonismygod31

What an idiot! Libertarianism has been around since the days of the French Revolution as the first libertarians were Socialists. Look up Proudhon. It was never a capitalist movement. In Europe where the term was coined, it means anti-statist socialist.

[BrettDunbar]

@manoverde84 You can't be an anti-statist socialist. It's an oxymoron. You people are gigantic fucking retards.

Businesses will still defend their private property using private security corporations that want to get paid. Workers will not strike because they no they will have no job if they do. You idiots don't realize the market naturally raises wages and lowers the cost of food and shit.

You people are evil dictators. Just admit it.

Go to school.

Morons.

[ermitasur]

the best, !!!!!! very thouching !!!1 congratulations!!!

[ericclaptonismygod31]

No, hope I am not sent to be (re) educated! I know all too well about sending dissidents to re-education camps and hospitals in Soviet Russia and Maoist China. Castro also has a bad human rights record sending people with different points of view to prision.

[ericclaptonismygod31]

Socialism is fascism in practise. Socialism is about control by a party that claims to represent "the working classes." Fascism (Hitler and Musselini)is the same except nationality and culture come before one`s class position. Lenin/Stalin/Mao are good points to study, but also look at how Italian fascist corporatism lead to "social democracy" in Sweden. They are not the same in theory, but end with the suspension of human rights.

Argentine courts were right to uphold the rule of law.

[orgthingy]

ericclaptonismygod31, you're mixing up with "one party state" system and soicalism :P

[otacon451]

read up on libertarian socialism

[turokcalde]

What's the song played in the trailer?

[scart69net]

This is the most relevant video I have seen for a long time. It lets Americans, English, Australians etc know exactly what's coming and a possible way to survive and rebuild when the multi-nationals stock pile their money & walk away from the people that built them all that wealth.

Great doco, well worth seeing in full.

[ericclaptonismygod31]

What did Naomi say about that fascist Peron? Why did she not discuss his human rights abuses and how he took Argentina from a RICH country to a basket-case?! Peron`s ghost sill haunts the country in the current Kirshner government. Nationalizing private pension funds and harassing farmers.

The documentary needs to examine how state socialism bankrupted the economy and culture of Argentina, leading to the IMF reforms.

Typical socialist/fascist BS!

[Redblasphy]

Dear Ericclaptonismygod31, you have to (re?) educate yourself in such issues as socialism - it seems that you have quite one-sided (and predictably negative) understanding of that term.

And please, do not put together socialism and fascism - such ignorance is pathetic. These two have little if nothing to do with each other. Think for yoruself, don't buy into the logic of the status quo.

[sunguard27]

if only

[gamilici]

really great documentary,also real great people.hope that today the situation hasn't changed...

[antiwarmom]

I just watched this movie today on Google video - the parallels between the Argentine currency crash and what's going on in America today are unbelievably similar. Every American should watch this movie. This is a real heads-up on what is to come.

[kliljedahl]

That was my upload to Google, the only one I'm aware of. Amazing for such a powerful movie.

[popgyrl]

This is the best documentary I have seen in a long time.

Every American should watch it now and learn from it's story.

Watch it and spread it around!

[Roville78]

Excelente este documental, me emociono muchisimo ver la fuerza de esta gente que a pesar de todo sigue luchando sin bajar los brazos. Gracias a todos ellos, por demostrar q la union hace la fuerza! OCUPAR, RESISTIR Y PRODUCIR!!

[maqnchs]

I grew up in Argentona, I gotta see this movie.

[Yakovlievich]

I want to start a workers occupation movement.

[BWF89]

I'm going to have to watch this movie.

[Rad1ka1]

HOLY SHIT.

[SteveHen150485]

check out the book: 'SIN PATRON'

[xamogelare]

This is how revolution should take place!Antiauthority,solidarity­ and selfmanaging!

[marialiasosa]

wow! i want to watch this movie... is it casual that isn´t shown in argentina?

[wonderbagel]

this doc was such a great eye opener!!! no wonder the media doesn't want it known that people working for the people works so much better than people working for the man

[yianlabite]

Also the difference between what happened in Spain is firstly this survived (Wasn't curshed violently) and secondly the direct democracy in the form of popular assemblies has by now largely faded in Argentina.

[yianlabite]

his film was made about a specific recent event,not anarcho-syndicalism in general.Which goes back way before Spain in 1936,take the rich anarchism traditions in Africa for example.

[yianlabite]

hey

[oddcoupple]

Klein says untrue...It isnt the first time that workers take factoryes and found cooperative societyes...spanish workers already made it...it's just anarco-unionism

Klein just censored this political thinking in the movie.

[flyscotsman]

This movie would probably be more credible if it hadn't been renounced by the Movement of Recovered Factories.

[nicetunes]

Best documentary ever watched. i'm with you!

[impete82]

dunno if it's the best i've ever watch :P but defiantly kick ass nonetheless