She would choose life... And her daughter's decision? I mean, sure, she can choose life all she wants, but in this case the choice is not hers. Would she respect her daughter's decision? That's what I'd be interested in and, in all honesty, I think that was the question. I wonder why she didn't answer it.
everyone check out the national network of abortion funds. they help raise money for low income women to recieve abortions. you can specify on your donations that the money go towards rape victims before anyone else
Her remarks are sickening... really. What if she was brutally raped and foreced to carry the rapists child? I may be against abortion myself, but this is just plane wrong.
Prolifers I support you all IF you are willing to Adopt.
Also, if you were not hypocrits by paying hitmen that torture Billions of conscious mammals in factory farms for months and then kill them. You and these kids each harm 1000s of animals.
GoVeg (dot) com/theissues.asp also spells out how cooked flesh drastically contributes to World Hunger, destroys the Environment we all rely on and is the leading cause of human health deaths costing us all in health care.
It's not fair that Sarah Palin would FORCE her own daughter to have a kid who arose from rape. Of course, if the daughter chose to keep the baby then I respect her decision.
Chances are people only voted for Palin because they think she's attractive, or because she's a soccer mom.
have you been raped? if not i would be careful legislating what complete strangers should do about their circumstances. i for one refuse to recivtimize these women for a developing seed that wouldnt miss its life to begin with.
Woah, leiapeison, are you not going to answer my other challenges? I haven't been raped. I probably already told you that I am an Anarchist and against government legislation and courts.
I only agree with Palin here that if I were raped I would choose not to kill my child because of it.
oh wow. that is interesting. so you dont think we should have any laws? can you explain this more? i am honestly curious. what were the other challenges i forget? i havent been raped. i was stalked and almost kidnapped 8 years ago and that is the closest i have. but even that was traumatic. i cant imagine if i had been raped and then pregnant. so i am careful to say what i would or would not do.
See the comments on Maya's video again. You said you could show me some unbiased research, and I was thinking you would PM me or something.
In other situations it has helped me to make up my mind before hand what I would do in difficulty, so that my emotions and hormones don't change what I really believe is best. I've thought about this problem a lot and discussed with my husband what we would do.
About the laws, I don't really have a solution, only dreams of a better way. But I do believe that the legislature and the courts, the justice system, the whole government thing, the money system, and even the system of industrial Civilization are essentially problematic to the point that they can't be fixed and need to be done away with.
Yeah, I'm sure dear old Mommy who got brutally raped will rest easy knowing that there would be a walking, talking, breathing post card of their time together, her and her rapist: a cherubic face in the back seat saying to her on the way to therapy, "Hey Victim! Me again. Your rapist. I brutally raped you, thus ruining your life and now you get to sacrifice your remaining years raising my rapist child! A child who looks almost exactly like me, the dude who raped you!" Real f'ing classy.
well rape and abortion in the same sentence is definatily not a light hearted situation. However I myself still believe that it is the womans decision and it should not be a state or public issue. Woman have the right to choose what they believe is best for them and if anyone has any objections I'm sorry i just don't think they are as relevant to what the individual wants, especially if it involves rape or danger to the woman's physical and mental health.
I don't support Sarah Palin at all. I think her policies are terrable. And good point about the death sentence, how can any Christian support that?
All in all I support the right of women to get Abortions but I'm not sure it is a good thing to do. Why do you think its a good idea? (I'm not being rude, just trying to understand)
its a tough question, but the unborn child did nothing wrong and does not deserve to be killed. you can't justify killing a baby because it is convienent for you.
Okay urion43 I accept your view it is a tough question I'm a Catholic whose anti-abortion but if it's a rape or the woman's life is in danger then I'm sorry I disagree with you. Somehow I don't think I'll ever hear Sarah Palin say I choose life in a murder trial so if anyone else mentions how she's so Christian READ YOUR BIBLE. (1) the Old Testament an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.
(2) Jesus Turn the other check in the New Testament.
its not about the baby its about the mother not wanting to have her vagina ripped open because some asshole thought it would be a good idea to rape her
yea, i understand what you mean. I would support the right of the women... it just seems like a gray area to me...i can never make up my mind if its right or wrong but i always support the right of the women to make that decision.
ya i meen its one of thos things that can be misused it shouldnt be used as a substitute for birth control but as a last resort if somone doesnt want to have a baby they should have he rite not to
my opinion (so don't comment) i believe this is dumb because there are so many reasons that we actually need abortion to be legal...without it many may die anywayz believe it or not....i do not agree with palin at all OBAMA/BIDEN '08
i say lets worry about actual human beings before we get worked up over zygotes
sad thing is that once the woman pops it out..she's on her own and *the precious baybee* doesnt matter anymore
abortion is just an opportunity for holier than thous to shake their fingers. Luckily, it will always be a right in this country...you can bet on that!
Why do you have godschild in your name? Pro choice and Gods child-what an oxy moron. I think what you are trying to be is not Gods child but God. Good luck.
she is so stupid my best friend got raped at 13 she didn't get pregnant thank god but i can't imagine if she did and the law wouldn't let her get an abortion her whole life and dreams would have been a waste palin thimks she's being a 'good person'on this issue but you don't know unless your in the victims shoes
Not a big deal she could have given the baby up for adoption. Enough said. Quit exaggerating and blowing things out of control. Choosing life and doing the right thing is not gonna kill her.
No it's not "enough said." For all your comments and others like you I propose this.
if you think all this is sooo wrong and your so righteous in telling women they have to carry a rapists seed , why don't we send everywoman that gets pregnant by rape to your house?
and you can deal with them until they have the baby. 9 whole months to step into their shoes and see what they go through and at the end of those 9 months you can keep the baby and raise it yourself. ..."Nuff said."
All that trouble to bring something extremely precious in the world, yep I think thats worth going the distance.
I am just talking about infanticide. Of course rape victims need support and love and guidance. Of course it is pretty traumatic to go through pregnancy after rape.
However, we don't excuse woman for killing their newborns because of their postpartum depression do we? So why do "feelings" determine what is right or wrong?
we don't excuse women for killing their newborns because their newborns are seperate entities and can be removed from their presence. with a pregnancy the woman is surrounded by the trauma 24/7. just because you think it is worth going the distance doesn' mean the girl would. no one can force someone to be pregnant against their will. if she doesn't want to give birth that is her right. it is her womb and she alone decides when to use it to sustain life.
but it is inside her and that is her territory. what evil philosophy? i am not advocating abortion just the right to one. forcing a woman to have an unwanted child solves nothing for the mother or the child. it will just cause a lifetime of hurt for both. quality not quantity.
As you're obviously an idiot, I'm gonna go slow so that you can follow this.
I don't care what you say to the contrary: Kids are fucking MEAN.
That young girl would have to not only go through the trauma of being raped, she'd have to also watch her body change because of what someone else did to her and, more likely than not, get teased & alienated because of it. The mental trauma of rape PLUS birth is enough to put women who WANTED a kid in post-partum depression. {c}
Could you imagine being forced to give birth to a rapist's seed? How much resentment would a mother have, knowing that a rapists disgusting seed was growing inside of her?
Could you magine being forced into this world where your father rapes your mother? Then imagine how a baby must feel when his mother destroys him for his fathers sin?
Well when you kill a baby it won't feel. However I can tell you a story where a baby survived a partial birth abortion. They tried to burn her to death with saline solution. Fortunately, she lived. Unfortunately, she acquired cerebral palsy.
Their comes a point where we start calling a zygote a fetus, so naturally we need to define a fetus as a baby sometime. To say that
a fully developed baby is a fetus because it is trapped in a womb is appauling. Yet infanticide still goes on.
Because I give a crap about the unborn? Because I have a healthy compassion for babies and value human life I am a woman hater?
Woooooooooooow. Quite a leap there.
When you grow a conscience about the babies who receive a violent end, then you can talk to me. You do not have the moral ground at all. It is disgusting the lengths you people will go to rationalize murder.
According to what twistic logic? Yours. You mean to tell me that a piece of skin separates a baby from a fetus? How silly and evil a philosophy you will believe
But yeah lets encourage the abused to abuse others. That seems to be the cure.
if you were a female and raped..then maybe that comment would have some meaning..but you're a dickless dude thats resentful women can do something u cant
Because the womb belongs to a woman i.e. person and you are infringing if not violating that person´s rights by deciding over her head what happens to it.
its jsut enforcing religious veiws in this day and age you should not be influenced byt this. if you are athiest you should not have to suffer from the choices of catholics.
im not generilisng al catholics. there mey be catholics who are pro-choice.
Same thing is happenign here in Australia and its scary.
Abortion is an issue only because our society has abandoned Gods Word. God would rather nip this problem in the bud before the child is even born. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 says if a husband marries a girl and finds her not to be a virgin, then she is to be stoned to death. Notice the girl is to be killed without a concern of whether she might be pregnant. God doesnt want that selfish man stuck raising a baby which wasnt his! The bible god's answer is to kill both the girl and the baby.
Say goodbye to planned parenthood, quality womens healthcare and 40 + years of pro choice rights that women have worked so hard to maintain. She is nothing but an ignorant jackass, going through life with her christian fundamental blinders on.
when people believe in bible's god, even killing children becomes moral: Moses was angry with the officers of the army who returned from battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live? They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and turned the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. [Num 31:14-18]
That's fine if you're talking about yourself, but where is the daughter's choice in this scenario? Poor Bristol never got any choice in the matter. I just hope they don't make them get married. Ironic, it seems like Palin is anti-feminist.
The bible says that we swallow a camel and strain at a gnat. How can anyone endorse war and capital punishment and say abortion is wrong. To me it is just a diversion from looking at the real issue and their evil heart. Their Christianity is selective. They only do what is convenient for them.
I don't know why people hold this against her. I mean, whether you're pro-life or not, all she's doing is holding herself to the same standards she holds everyone else. Would you rather she had said "I would oppose abortion as long as it wasn't my daughter who was pregnant"?
I bet she'd change her mind right now if some guy laid the pipe to her and got her knocked up with a baby she never wanted. How much do you wanna bet she'd go out and get an abortion?
And besides. Even IF Palin wants to make abortion illegal, and even if McCain and her get in, people will self-abort, something that's much more dangerous than having it safely done.
So, either way, abortion will still happen in one way or another,
Dear God help us all if these two win. Conservatism is the result of poor parenting. Women have the right to choose. Pro-lifers may consciously care about a fetus but unconsciously they do not. Unconsciously it is about misogyny and an intense desire to control women's sexuality. This is the result of various mother issues. You guys need to know that. It is a psychological fact. I pray for all Republicans who are against abortion. I am sorry you have such issues with your mother.
A friend once told me that she is handicapped because she either has something to learn or something to teach. Don't you think that God created each of us because he has a plan?Even the child of a rapist, or the child who has a disease. What makes one human life more valuable than another? The way he was conceived? The family he was given to? His ability to walk? Talk? What... what makes one life worthy of birth and another life not??
Palin: I know you disagree but Alaksa has already decided that teenagers may get abortions without parental consent. Therefore, stop pretending that it's your decision.
palin a real scumbag.stubbon,gun toting,bad mother who barely watch her kids,but what to tell us how to do ours.guns kill remember all those school killings.vote palin back to learn parent teaching and non bully ways.palin a bad puppet.not impress
Actually there is a Gene sequence relating to sexual violence. just look at the animal kingdom (excluding humans to get an unbiast veiw) their are plenty of animals that rape the females of the species. so don't tell me that there is no gene that causes some people to rape. it's science people! learn it!
Researchers studying genetics & rape are pursuing the postulate that rape is a genetic/evolutionary adaption common to ALL MEN, not individuals. Some of those researchers go out of their way to refute the very hysteria that you are trying to promote. So "Yes," Doomcharger, I WILL tell you that there is no gene that causes SOME people to rape. Next time get ALL the facts before passing yourself off as an expert.
Mrs. Palin are you serious? What about Deuteronomy 22:23-24? If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
Gov. Palin is a Christian. She is not subject to Old Testament Judaic Law, and does not endorse it. Maybe if you got saved and studied Christianity, you wouldn't look so ridiculous criticizing Christians.
If you daughter was raped, it should be her decision. It's not for you to force your pre-historic fascist views on your children. She may be a minor but that is a decision that will affect her for the rest of her life. I'm so glad that many states don't require parental consent. It's crazy women like Palin who really make it hard on young women.
I don't believe any woman should ever be FORCED to have an abotion. I also believe that no woman should ever be FORCED not to have an abortion. FORCE vs. CHOICE is a no-brainer for me.
I vote for women's rights. I vote for equality. I vote for the hard working middle class Americans. I vote Obama/Biden.
Goddamn... that bitch is hardcore when it comes to abortion. Can't say that I would force my daughter to give birth to a child after the traumatic experience of a rape.
I'm a staunch pro-choice Democrat. HOWEVER, personally I'd never want someone I love to have an abortion. My family is opposed to it, for the same reason that we oppose killing innocent children, babies, in Iraq; we value life.
The abortion war will not be won in the courts. It will be won by winning the hearts and minds of the American people, and that takes good leadership. Yes it's an issue of choice, but that doesn't mean we don't try to discourage it.
It's should not be up to the American people. It's not their business. The decision should be between the woman, her doctor and God. Everyone else needs to mind their own fucking business. Morality should never be left to a tyranny of the majority. If majority-will prevailed, blacks would still be slaves.
To all you lying republicans politicians... talk is cheap. If you really want to reverse Roe v Wade... do it! The President controls the Supreme Court via Scalia... reverse R v W! Do it now!
Yeah, you lying republicans talk a good talk, but when it comes down to it, you can't walk the walk. You're worse than baby killers, you use the guise of antiabortion to fill your coffers, to give to rich -i.e., Enron and Halliburton. But you stop short of saving unborn children.
Republicans are hypocrite. They don't want to reverse Roe v Wade. If they did, it would already have happened. If republicans can elect a president (i.e., Bush) they can reverse Roe v Wade. The republicans include antiabortion as part of its platform to convince evangelicals that they should vote republican. Here is the litmus test: Bush can take us to war, kill close to a million Iraqis in the name of public safety, but he can't save one unborn child from abortion.
Women dont let this woman go to Washington and take your rights away. There is no way on God's green earth that I would have a baby by a rapist. She is a twisted digusted bitch.
I am in between on this one.. for myself I would always choose life. But I understand and respect a woman's choice - and especially in cases of rape and incest abortions should be an option for women. I personally do not agree with over-turning Roe vs Wade because this would set back women about 100 years but I do think that there needs to be fewer abortions in general(how we do this... I honestly don't know) and I would advocate lowering the number of weeks at which an abortion can be performed
Everyone in the United States should see this video, the mainstream press is shielding Americans from her extremism. This is horrible, if McCain dies and she is president she will set women's rights back 100 years. The really sad part of this is that many women are flocking to her because of her "imaage" and she is a mom, and they are not seeing her for who she really is, I hope everyone will send this to CNN, MSNBC and ask them why are you not playing this tape.
I notice Palin doesn't even talk about what her daughter might be feeling after being raped. Very disturbing that 1. Palin "chooses" for her daughter and 2. Backs laws that prevent anyone else "choosing" for themselves.
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Is the child of a rapist any less human than the child of a married father? Of course not. Her position is consistently pro-life. It's the pro-aborts who are the moral perverts.
Do you really want to pass that gene on to another child who could be a potential rapist? Why should the woman have to endure a pregnancy after being raped? The woman didn't choose to raped so why should she be forced to foster something she didn't want to begin with? It is her body and a fetus should not be more important than a grown woman. Pro life people care so much about a fetus but once it comes out no one cares anymore.
Don't be naive! There's no such thing as a rapist gene. While it's unjust for a woman to bear a rapists child to term, it's not nearly as unjust as what the child endures as it is ripped apart within it's own mother's womb. Pro-lifers believe that the child's right to life supercedes the mother's convenience and emotional consideratons. Whether the child is wanted or unwanted has no bearing on its humanity. And yes, my dear, pro-life people care very much about children after they are born.
Can you prove that being a rapist is not inherited? Are you a scientist?
The woman is a living breathing adult who is aware of things and capable of living on her own. A fetus lives because of the mother and they do not realize what is happening to them when they are aborted, they are the size of a peanut. Their brain is not capable of something that advanced within the first 3 months. I know that I would not want to be in this world knowing that I was created because my mother was raped.
It was only a few decades ago that hunting skills were essential to survival. Gov. Palen hunts in the tradition of her forefathers and uses the meat to nourish her family. Since YOU injected "God" into the debate, I should point out that it is "God" who gives mankind sanctity of life. Only a pro-abort would equate an innocent human life with that of a beast.
jjjones01: Did jesus say that we have to mandate the commandments? No, because that would take away free will. You can't force someone to be christian with laws; are you a muslim who follows sharia law? That isn't christianity.
Is the child of a rapist any less human than the child of a married father? Of course not. Her position is consistently pro-life. It's the pro-aborts who are the moral perverts.
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sad thing is that idiots like you breed the most and contribute the least to society
This is a case where it's not about the fetus, it's about the WOMAN! Nothing violates a woman more than rape. It is violent and evil and can traumatize a woman for life. The question is asked more regarding the woman in this case. Don't you think a woman may have negative thoughts about their child considering how the child was conceived? Knowing it was created out of a violent assault? As with many right wingers, women come in low on the depth chart. Now, even second to one who isn't born
You are the idiot one...You remind me of a witch hunter....Tell me, have you in any shape or form contributed to the welfare of raped women? Have you helped them financially and emotionally? Why raped women should be violated twice???? First-by her rapist and second-by hypocrites like you. It is the 21st century not the Stone Age...Living Women have rights...Palin on Women's rights???? We are fucked!!!
She would choose life... And her daughter's decision? I mean, sure, she can choose life all she wants, but in this case the choice is not hers. Would she respect her daughter's decision? That's what I'd be interested in and, in all honesty, I think that was the question. I wonder why she didn't answer it.
EPR89 1 month ago
everyone check out the national network of abortion funds. they help raise money for low income women to recieve abortions. you can specify on your donations that the money go towards rape victims before anyone else
leiapeison 8 months ago
He should have then asked "What if she was raped by a Black man?" And watch the sock in that bitch palin's face.
1danyol1 10 months ago
So....Sarah Palin is allowed to kill poor defensless animals but were not allowed to get abortions? Hypocrite.
wickedwitch222 1 year ago
Her remarks are sickening... really. What if she was brutally raped and foreced to carry the rapists child? I may be against abortion myself, but this is just plane wrong.
2900Happinesss 2 years ago
dumb reporter, he should have added the cock was black, then she would have been properly slipped up.
johnny4463435 2 years ago
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Prolifers I support you all IF you are willing to Adopt.
Also, if you were not hypocrits by paying hitmen that torture Billions of conscious mammals in factory farms for months and then kill them. You and these kids each harm 1000s of animals.
GoVeg (dot) com/theissues.asp also spells out how cooked flesh drastically contributes to World Hunger, destroys the Environment we all rely on and is the leading cause of human health deaths costing us all in health care.
MeetYourMeat (dot) com
houstonhelpanimals 2 years ago
It's not fair that Sarah Palin would FORCE her own daughter to have a kid who arose from rape. Of course, if the daughter chose to keep the baby then I respect her decision.
Chances are people only voted for Palin because they think she's attractive, or because she's a soccer mom.
MarowakDidIt 2 years ago 5
The more people know about her, the fewer votes she gets.
SexySadie98506 2 years ago
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Palin is a hilarious nut, but I'm with her on this one!
RVqueen 3 years ago
have you been raped? if not i would be careful legislating what complete strangers should do about their circumstances. i for one refuse to recivtimize these women for a developing seed that wouldnt miss its life to begin with.
leiapeison 3 years ago 2
Woah, leiapeison, are you not going to answer my other challenges? I haven't been raped. I probably already told you that I am an Anarchist and against government legislation and courts.
I only agree with Palin here that if I were raped I would choose not to kill my child because of it.
RVqueen 3 years ago
oh wow. that is interesting. so you dont think we should have any laws? can you explain this more? i am honestly curious. what were the other challenges i forget? i havent been raped. i was stalked and almost kidnapped 8 years ago and that is the closest i have. but even that was traumatic. i cant imagine if i had been raped and then pregnant. so i am careful to say what i would or would not do.
leiapeison 3 years ago
See the comments on Maya's video again. You said you could show me some unbiased research, and I was thinking you would PM me or something.
In other situations it has helped me to make up my mind before hand what I would do in difficulty, so that my emotions and hormones don't change what I really believe is best. I've thought about this problem a lot and discussed with my husband what we would do.
RVqueen 3 years ago
About the laws, I don't really have a solution, only dreams of a better way. But I do believe that the legislature and the courts, the justice system, the whole government thing, the money system, and even the system of industrial Civilization are essentially problematic to the point that they can't be fixed and need to be done away with.
RVqueen 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm sure dear old Mommy who got brutally raped will rest easy knowing that there would be a walking, talking, breathing post card of their time together, her and her rapist: a cherubic face in the back seat saying to her on the way to therapy, "Hey Victim! Me again. Your rapist. I brutally raped you, thus ruining your life and now you get to sacrifice your remaining years raising my rapist child! A child who looks almost exactly like me, the dude who raped you!" Real f'ing classy.
Headhunter004 3 years ago 6
well rape and abortion in the same sentence is definatily not a light hearted situation. However I myself still believe that it is the womans decision and it should not be a state or public issue. Woman have the right to choose what they believe is best for them and if anyone has any objections I'm sorry i just don't think they are as relevant to what the individual wants, especially if it involves rape or danger to the woman's physical and mental health.
jigglypuff3 3 years ago 16
Gen 2:7 Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
Adam was not alive until the Lord gave him breath.
Tabbi8407 3 years ago
I think that it's wrong to use religion to justify or disprove any sort of REAL law.
MarowakDidIt 2 years ago
I don't like Sarah Palin very much, I think she is an idiot.
But...I'd give HER a good raping for sure.
Maybe we should question whether SHE would keep my baby.
jaysobeseowl 3 years ago
yes, lets make a woman who WAS RAPED-- its usually by SOMEONE THEY KNOW-- carry that child to term, and HATE themselves AND the child. great.
peaceorchestra 3 years ago 2
I don't support Sarah Palin at all. I think her policies are terrable. And good point about the death sentence, how can any Christian support that?
All in all I support the right of women to get Abortions but I'm not sure it is a good thing to do. Why do you think its a good idea? (I'm not being rude, just trying to understand)
urion43 3 years ago
its a tough question, but the unborn child did nothing wrong and does not deserve to be killed. you can't justify killing a baby because it is convienent for you.
urion43 3 years ago
Okay urion43 I accept your view it is a tough question I'm a Catholic whose anti-abortion but if it's a rape or the woman's life is in danger then I'm sorry I disagree with you. Somehow I don't think I'll ever hear Sarah Palin say I choose life in a murder trial so if anyone else mentions how she's so Christian READ YOUR BIBLE. (1) the Old Testament an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.
(2) Jesus Turn the other check in the New Testament.
The New Testament outweighs the Old Testament.
derryyogi 3 years ago
its not about the baby its about the mother not wanting to have her vagina ripped open because some asshole thought it would be a good idea to rape her
yahyahtoopy 3 years ago 25
i'm not sure what you mean...
Do you mean that the mother should not be forced to give birth against her will?
urion43 3 years ago 2
yes
yahyahtoopy 3 years ago 2
yea, i understand what you mean. I would support the right of the women... it just seems like a gray area to me...i can never make up my mind if its right or wrong but i always support the right of the women to make that decision.
urion43 3 years ago 3
ya i meen its one of thos things that can be misused it shouldnt be used as a substitute for birth control but as a last resort if somone doesnt want to have a baby they should have he rite not to
yahyahtoopy 3 years ago
I SUPPORT PALIN HERE
chumma76 3 years ago
my opinion (so don't comment) i believe this is dumb because there are so many reasons that we actually need abortion to be legal...without it many may die anywayz believe it or not....i do not agree with palin at all OBAMA/BIDEN '08
kaykaygodschild 3 years ago 2
The Nation have reported that the CNP "are the hidden hand behind McCain's Palin pick".
The CNP has shared directors such as Jesse Helms, Thomas Ellis and R.E. Carter-Wrenn with the eugenics organization the Pioneer Fund.
The Pioneer Fund endorses mandatory abortion and euthanasia.
The CNP is likely a pro-life Christian front for wealthy ideologues who want a system similar to that of Communist China.
neothomist1275 3 years ago
i'm with you
i say lets worry about actual human beings before we get worked up over zygotes
sad thing is that once the woman pops it out..she's on her own and *the precious baybee* doesnt matter anymore
abortion is just an opportunity for holier than thous to shake their fingers. Luckily, it will always be a right in this country...you can bet on that!
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago 2
Why do you have godschild in your name? Pro choice and Gods child-what an oxy moron. I think what you are trying to be is not Gods child but God. Good luck.
tnlapp 3 years ago
no not at all...I know who my creator is and I know it is not me....so therefore i have the name kaykaygodschild
kaykaygodschild 3 years ago
let all go rape her daughter
ricenamese 3 years ago 4
Hilarious.
Heheheh.
Habotch 3 years ago
Grind it out with a sharp spoon!!! Then eat the offing with raw monkey brains.
crazypdj 3 years ago
she is so stupid my best friend got raped at 13 she didn't get pregnant thank god but i can't imagine if she did and the law wouldn't let her get an abortion her whole life and dreams would have been a waste palin thimks she's being a 'good person'on this issue but you don't know unless your in the victims shoes
erikaErika517 3 years ago 5
Not a big deal she could have given the baby up for adoption. Enough said. Quit exaggerating and blowing things out of control. Choosing life and doing the right thing is not gonna kill her.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
Hey hypermonkey,
No it's not "enough said." For all your comments and others like you I propose this.
if you think all this is sooo wrong and your so righteous in telling women they have to carry a rapists seed , why don't we send everywoman that gets pregnant by rape to your house?
goddesscal 3 years ago
and you can deal with them until they have the baby. 9 whole months to step into their shoes and see what they go through and at the end of those 9 months you can keep the baby and raise it yourself. ..."Nuff said."
goddesscal 3 years ago
All that trouble to bring something extremely precious in the world, yep I think thats worth going the distance.
I am just talking about infanticide. Of course rape victims need support and love and guidance. Of course it is pretty traumatic to go through pregnancy after rape.
However, we don't excuse woman for killing their newborns because of their postpartum depression do we? So why do "feelings" determine what is right or wrong?
Yeahhhhhh, enough said. Grow a conscience.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
we don't excuse women for killing their newborns because their newborns are seperate entities and can be removed from their presence. with a pregnancy the woman is surrounded by the trauma 24/7. just because you think it is worth going the distance doesn' mean the girl would. no one can force someone to be pregnant against their will. if she doesn't want to give birth that is her right. it is her womb and she alone decides when to use it to sustain life.
leiapeison 3 years ago
Sorry I don't buy the evil philosophy of yours. A baby is a separate entity inside the mothers womb.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
but it is inside her and that is her territory. what evil philosophy? i am not advocating abortion just the right to one. forcing a woman to have an unwanted child solves nothing for the mother or the child. it will just cause a lifetime of hurt for both. quality not quantity.
leiapeison 3 years ago
All the excuses in the world don't change an evil deed. You are advocating abortion as you believe people have the right to one.
I suppose I can talk myself into any kind of evil, the nazis did, hell so can I.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
i never said it was a good thing. i feel it is a neccessary evil at this point in human history. and i am not a nazi
leiapeison 3 years ago
"i never said it was a good thing. i feel it is a neccessary evil at this point in human history. and i am not a nazi "
An honest answer. I disagree with you, but its honest.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
As you're obviously an idiot, I'm gonna go slow so that you can follow this.
I don't care what you say to the contrary: Kids are fucking MEAN.
That young girl would have to not only go through the trauma of being raped, she'd have to also watch her body change because of what someone else did to her and, more likely than not, get teased & alienated because of it. The mental trauma of rape PLUS birth is enough to put women who WANTED a kid in post-partum depression. {c}
xboltagex 3 years ago 3
Now, how do you think that would mentally affect a young girl?
But nevermind that- it's not like you give half a shit about people that already exist, just the embryos that have the power to ruin their lives.
xboltagex 3 years ago 4
lame excuses man. I care for humanity in all its stages. Your kid argument is ridiculous and reveals your moral bankrupty.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
Could you imagine being forced to give birth to a rapist's seed? How much resentment would a mother have, knowing that a rapists disgusting seed was growing inside of her?
FoodCubes 3 years ago 3
Could you magine being forced into this world where your father rapes your mother? Then imagine how a baby must feel when his mother destroys him for his fathers sin?
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
I think a fetus, not baby, would feel nothing, being dead and all.
SkaProphet 3 years ago 2
Well when you kill a baby it won't feel. However I can tell you a story where a baby survived a partial birth abortion. They tried to burn her to death with saline solution. Fortunately, she lived. Unfortunately, she acquired cerebral palsy.
Their comes a point where we start calling a zygote a fetus, so naturally we need to define a fetus as a baby sometime. To say that
a fully developed baby is a fetus because it is trapped in a womb is appauling. Yet infanticide still goes on.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
What kind of life would that baby have?
What would the mom tell the child about the father?
Why don't these people just go away?
juicedupnsloppy 3 years ago 3
Fairly prophetic question, by the way.
Abortion for all is the hallmark of a civilized society.
All the same...
Thank God for abortion.
Abortion is a gift from God.
gregtube88 3 years ago 2
A "dickless dude"
Because I give a crap about the unborn? Because I have a healthy compassion for babies and value human life I am a woman hater?
Woooooooooooow. Quite a leap there.
When you grow a conscience about the babies who receive a violent end, then you can talk to me. You do not have the moral ground at all. It is disgusting the lengths you people will go to rationalize murder.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
werwerwerwe
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
"That innocent baby won't be a baby for 9 months"
According to what twistic logic? Yours. You mean to tell me that a piece of skin separates a baby from a fetus? How silly and evil a philosophy you will believe
But yeah lets encourage the abused to abuse others. That seems to be the cure.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
Yes kill the innocent baby for the rapists crimes. Now thats justice.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
if you were a female and raped..then maybe that comment would have some meaning..but you're a dickless dude thats resentful women can do something u cant
azifffffff 3 years ago
I hate her!
im pro life too but just beccause of my personal beleifs dosent make it ok 4 me to tell women wat to with there bodys its there choice
crazylericaun 3 years ago 2
Then your pro choice not pro life. You would gladly let others commit murder and you just look the other way?
If you think abortion is wrong would you have a problem with somebody throwing their newborn in a trashcan? Why does the law stop at the womb?
Otherwise lets remove all laws of murder as some people may believe in murder. We don't want to enforce our "beliefs" on anybody now do we?
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
"Why does the law stop at the womb?"
Because the womb belongs to a woman i.e. person and you are infringing if not violating that person´s rights by deciding over her head what happens to it.
NataschaO 3 years ago 3
So your "infringing if not violating" that babies rights by "deciding over its head"
what happens to it.
Yep I agree.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
how can one claim to be pro-life AND pro-gun?
cyberlotti 3 years ago
Simple,
pro life and pro gun have absolutely nothing to with each other.
What a ridiculous statement.
hypermonkey26 3 years ago
its jsut enforcing religious veiws in this day and age you should not be influenced byt this. if you are athiest you should not have to suffer from the choices of catholics.
im not generilisng al catholics. there mey be catholics who are pro-choice.
Same thing is happenign here in Australia and its scary.
bllbrd 3 years ago
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Abortion is an issue only because our society has abandoned Gods Word. God would rather nip this problem in the bud before the child is even born. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 says if a husband marries a girl and finds her not to be a virgin, then she is to be stoned to death. Notice the girl is to be killed without a concern of whether she might be pregnant. God doesnt want that selfish man stuck raising a baby which wasnt his! The bible god's answer is to kill both the girl and the baby.
exodus21v20 3 years ago
Killing babies is bad.
HeliasDeNappo 3 years ago
Say goodbye to planned parenthood, quality womens healthcare and 40 + years of pro choice rights that women have worked so hard to maintain. She is nothing but an ignorant jackass, going through life with her christian fundamental blinders on.
Dewdrop034 3 years ago
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when people believe in bible's god, even killing children becomes moral: Moses was angry with the officers of the army who returned from battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live? They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and turned the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. [Num 31:14-18]
missionarysarahbarry 3 years ago
What does she mean SHE would choose life?
GypsyWytch13 3 years ago 2
it means she's full of hot air and hasnt been raped but likes to judge those that have been
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago 3
"I would choose life"
That's fine if you're talking about yourself, but where is the daughter's choice in this scenario? Poor Bristol never got any choice in the matter. I just hope they don't make them get married. Ironic, it seems like Palin is anti-feminist.
lost2darkness 3 years ago 2
anti feminist is a polite way of putting it.
I think she's more along the lines of a slap in the face to our gender
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago
The bible says that we swallow a camel and strain at a gnat. How can anyone endorse war and capital punishment and say abortion is wrong. To me it is just a diversion from looking at the real issue and their evil heart. Their Christianity is selective. They only do what is convenient for them.
schrell77 3 years ago 3
I don't know why people hold this against her. I mean, whether you're pro-life or not, all she's doing is holding herself to the same standards she holds everyone else. Would you rather she had said "I would oppose abortion as long as it wasn't my daughter who was pregnant"?
7Mike18 3 years ago
I bet she'd change her mind right now if some guy laid the pipe to her and got her knocked up with a baby she never wanted. How much do you wanna bet she'd go out and get an abortion?
And besides. Even IF Palin wants to make abortion illegal, and even if McCain and her get in, people will self-abort, something that's much more dangerous than having it safely done.
So, either way, abortion will still happen in one way or another,
kodyboye1 3 years ago
I bet she wouldnt get an abortion, she is just that fucking stupid.
jem7992 3 years ago 2
the weird thing is that she says she wants abortions illegal..but then said she doesnt think women should go to jail for them
wtf does illegal mean?
i guess it'd be like a traffic ticket?
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago
Dear God help us all if these two win. Conservatism is the result of poor parenting. Women have the right to choose. Pro-lifers may consciously care about a fetus but unconsciously they do not. Unconsciously it is about misogyny and an intense desire to control women's sexuality. This is the result of various mother issues. You guys need to know that. It is a psychological fact. I pray for all Republicans who are against abortion. I am sorry you have such issues with your mother.
red12512 3 years ago
A friend once told me that she is handicapped because she either has something to learn or something to teach. Don't you think that God created each of us because he has a plan?Even the child of a rapist, or the child who has a disease. What makes one human life more valuable than another? The way he was conceived? The family he was given to? His ability to walk? Talk? What... what makes one life worthy of birth and another life not??
youthforoil 3 years ago
a friend once told me that you copy/paste the same shit over and over
fucking idiot. no wonder you're against a womans right to choose..most imbeciles are
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago
wow what a retard
obama 08
xxbrwnsugaaxx 3 years ago 2
She has no heart. She is evil.
existaslove 3 years ago 2
Palin: I know you disagree but Alaksa has already decided that teenagers may get abortions without parental consent. Therefore, stop pretending that it's your decision.
josbo51713 3 years ago 2
If the fetus you save is gay, would you still fight for it's rights.
kmsweeney 3 years ago 2
loooooooooooool
davidpatrickson 3 years ago
Fine, just don't choose it for everyone
tenantennae 3 years ago 2
palin a real scumbag.stubbon,gun toting,bad mother who barely watch her kids,but what to tell us how to do ours.guns kill remember all those school killings.vote palin back to learn parent teaching and non bully ways.palin a bad puppet.not impress
smylee3760 3 years ago
Actually there is a Gene sequence relating to sexual violence. just look at the animal kingdom (excluding humans to get an unbiast veiw) their are plenty of animals that rape the females of the species. so don't tell me that there is no gene that causes some people to rape. it's science people! learn it!
Doomcharger 3 years ago
Researchers studying genetics & rape are pursuing the postulate that rape is a genetic/evolutionary adaption common to ALL MEN, not individuals. Some of those researchers go out of their way to refute the very hysteria that you are trying to promote. So "Yes," Doomcharger, I WILL tell you that there is no gene that causes SOME people to rape. Next time get ALL the facts before passing yourself off as an expert.
jjjones01 3 years ago
*head desk*
I really dislike this woman
SoILoveCheese2011 3 years ago
Mrs. Palin are you serious? What about Deuteronomy 22:23-24? If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
greenabsint 3 years ago
Gov. Palin is a Christian. She is not subject to Old Testament Judaic Law, and does not endorse it. Maybe if you got saved and studied Christianity, you wouldn't look so ridiculous criticizing Christians.
jjjones01 3 years ago
christian brotherly love: jjjones01 wrote on illegal immigrants: "Give each office(?) a machine gun and Voila! They can catch 'em all!"
greenabsint 3 years ago
Touche'
jjjones01 3 years ago
it spells touché
greenabsint 3 years ago
The bible clearly says that it's wrong to force Christianity on other people.
josbo51713 3 years ago
wheres that?
donotfeedthetroll 3 years ago
This woman is dangerous to all women. She wants to take women back to the alley. Please vote Democrat Nov 4.
EternalSoulmates 3 years ago 4
She's pro-life and pro-war??? What the heck?
lisaatucla 3 years ago 6
A paradox that can't be mathimatically solved.
Doomcharger 3 years ago
If you daughter was raped, it should be her decision. It's not for you to force your pre-historic fascist views on your children. She may be a minor but that is a decision that will affect her for the rest of her life. I'm so glad that many states don't require parental consent. It's crazy women like Palin who really make it hard on young women.
josbo51713 3 years ago 5
I don't believe any woman should ever be FORCED to have an abotion. I also believe that no woman should ever be FORCED not to have an abortion. FORCE vs. CHOICE is a no-brainer for me.
I vote for women's rights. I vote for equality. I vote for the hard working middle class Americans. I vote Obama/Biden.
thursdaysrecords 3 years ago 6
Crime rate dropped BECAUSE of abortion! It needs to be legal!
Mikozee 3 years ago 4
Goddamn... that bitch is hardcore when it comes to abortion. Can't say that I would force my daughter to give birth to a child after the traumatic experience of a rape.
JoyceChoice 3 years ago 4
I'm a staunch pro-choice Democrat. HOWEVER, personally I'd never want someone I love to have an abortion. My family is opposed to it, for the same reason that we oppose killing innocent children, babies, in Iraq; we value life.
The abortion war will not be won in the courts. It will be won by winning the hearts and minds of the American people, and that takes good leadership. Yes it's an issue of choice, but that doesn't mean we don't try to discourage it.
Education, birth control, & choice!
AllknowingGuitarGuru 3 years ago
"The abortion war will not be won in the courts. It will be won by winning the hearts and minds of the American people"
Brilliant.
asblue91 3 years ago
It's should not be up to the American people. It's not their business. The decision should be between the woman, her doctor and God. Everyone else needs to mind their own fucking business. Morality should never be left to a tyranny of the majority. If majority-will prevailed, blacks would still be slaves.
josbo51713 3 years ago 6
To all you lying republicans politicians... talk is cheap. If you really want to reverse Roe v Wade... do it! The President controls the Supreme Court via Scalia... reverse R v W! Do it now!
Yeah, you lying republicans talk a good talk, but when it comes down to it, you can't walk the walk. You're worse than baby killers, you use the guise of antiabortion to fill your coffers, to give to rich -i.e., Enron and Halliburton. But you stop short of saving unborn children.
Shame on you!
AllknowingGuitarGuru 3 years ago
Republicans are hypocrite. They don't want to reverse Roe v Wade. If they did, it would already have happened. If republicans can elect a president (i.e., Bush) they can reverse Roe v Wade. The republicans include antiabortion as part of its platform to convince evangelicals that they should vote republican. Here is the litmus test: Bush can take us to war, kill close to a million Iraqis in the name of public safety, but he can't save one unborn child from abortion.
Republicans are pro-choice.
AllknowingGuitarGuru 3 years ago
This is one of the smartest things I have seen written on youtube. You are absolutely right.
msteeleart 3 years ago
Yet, she gave HER OWN DAUGHTER the choice to have an abortion after she got knocked up.
Hypocritical much?
doodles6857 3 years ago
This woman is crazy!
mattm1836 3 years ago
Women dont let this woman go to Washington and take your rights away. There is no way on God's green earth that I would have a baby by a rapist. She is a twisted digusted bitch.
EternalSoulmates 3 years ago 3
I am in between on this one.. for myself I would always choose life. But I understand and respect a woman's choice - and especially in cases of rape and incest abortions should be an option for women. I personally do not agree with over-turning Roe vs Wade because this would set back women about 100 years but I do think that there needs to be fewer abortions in general(how we do this... I honestly don't know) and I would advocate lowering the number of weeks at which an abortion can be performed
britgirl86 3 years ago
Everyone in the United States should see this video, the mainstream press is shielding Americans from her extremism. This is horrible, if McCain dies and she is president she will set women's rights back 100 years. The really sad part of this is that many women are flocking to her because of her "imaage" and she is a mom, and they are not seeing her for who she really is, I hope everyone will send this to CNN, MSNBC and ask them why are you not playing this tape.
siugal 3 years ago 3
No matter what I will always be pro-choice and always be against these stupid anti choice politicians.
GuateVEGAN 3 years ago 3
Someone should ask her:
If MY daughter was raped and got pregnant, would you force her to give birth to the rapist's child, if you had the power to do so?
And would you make her pay hundreds of dollars for investigation, if you had the power to do so? (Like she did in Wasilla)
What would Sarah Palin do if she has the power to do so?
The American people is waiting for an answer...
pfannyguy 3 years ago
She hasn't. She hasn't forced any pro-life bills through into Alaska. She doesn't seem to be anti-choice.
Ytaker 3 years ago
This woman is very disturbing to me and she should be to any American who's a fan of their liberties and freedoms.
DRStarks 3 years ago 8
I'm reading through this list and no one is discussing the freedoms and liberties of the baby.
dex1391 3 years ago
I notice Palin doesn't even talk about what her daughter might be feeling after being raped. Very disturbing that 1. Palin "chooses" for her daughter and 2. Backs laws that prevent anyone else "choosing" for themselves.
madhaus 3 years ago 6
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I also didn't hear her say that rape victims shouldn't have a choice. She only stated her choice.
hozehd 3 years ago
I wouldn't want to carry a gen of the rapest. I think abortion is a personal issue not a government.
laurak40 3 years ago 7
well than I guess its a good thing that we aren't disagreeing.
hozehd 3 years ago
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Is the child of a rapist any less human than the child of a married father? Of course not. Her position is consistently pro-life. It's the pro-aborts who are the moral perverts.
jjjones01 3 years ago
Do you really want to pass that gene on to another child who could be a potential rapist? Why should the woman have to endure a pregnancy after being raped? The woman didn't choose to raped so why should she be forced to foster something she didn't want to begin with? It is her body and a fetus should not be more important than a grown woman. Pro life people care so much about a fetus but once it comes out no one cares anymore.
msteeleart 3 years ago 3
Don't be naive! There's no such thing as a rapist gene. While it's unjust for a woman to bear a rapists child to term, it's not nearly as unjust as what the child endures as it is ripped apart within it's own mother's womb. Pro-lifers believe that the child's right to life supercedes the mother's convenience and emotional consideratons. Whether the child is wanted or unwanted has no bearing on its humanity. And yes, my dear, pro-life people care very much about children after they are born.
jjjones01 3 years ago
Can you prove that being a rapist is not inherited? Are you a scientist?
The woman is a living breathing adult who is aware of things and capable of living on her own. A fetus lives because of the mother and they do not realize what is happening to them when they are aborted, they are the size of a peanut. Their brain is not capable of something that advanced within the first 3 months. I know that I would not want to be in this world knowing that I was created because my mother was raped.
msteeleart 3 years ago
yet Palin doesn't support pro life for animals since she is an avid hunter, did God give her a right to kill for sport (and not just for food)
abasi2008 3 years ago 3
It was only a few decades ago that hunting skills were essential to survival. Gov. Palen hunts in the tradition of her forefathers and uses the meat to nourish her family. Since YOU injected "God" into the debate, I should point out that it is "God" who gives mankind sanctity of life. Only a pro-abort would equate an innocent human life with that of a beast.
jjjones01 3 years ago
jjjones01: Did jesus say that we have to mandate the commandments? No, because that would take away free will. You can't force someone to be christian with laws; are you a muslim who follows sharia law? That isn't christianity.
burger1376 3 years ago
Is the child of a rapist any less human than the child of a married father? Of course not. Her position is consistently pro-life. It's the pro-aborts who are the moral perverts.
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sad thing is that idiots like you breed the most and contribute the least to society
very very bad for humanity in the long run
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago
This is a case where it's not about the fetus, it's about the WOMAN! Nothing violates a woman more than rape. It is violent and evil and can traumatize a woman for life. The question is asked more regarding the woman in this case. Don't you think a woman may have negative thoughts about their child considering how the child was conceived? Knowing it was created out of a violent assault? As with many right wingers, women come in low on the depth chart. Now, even second to one who isn't born
ibmoe 3 years ago
As with many right wingers, women come in low on the depth chart. Now, even second to one who isn't born
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i know...it blows me away that any woman would even choose to be a fright winger..but I guess we're all products of our environment
not to worry though...roe v wade will never be overturned..its older than most of the people on this board LOL
the only reason it is constantly brought up is because politicians realize its an emotional issue that'll atract fucktards to vote
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago
attract even
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago
You are the idiot one...You remind me of a witch hunter....Tell me, have you in any shape or form contributed to the welfare of raped women? Have you helped them financially and emotionally? Why raped women should be violated twice???? First-by her rapist and second-by hypocrites like you. It is the 21st century not the Stone Age...Living Women have rights...Palin on Women's rights???? We are fucked!!!
miel02020 3 years ago
ouch...we're both on the same side
I despise palin and her cold blooded self depricating sexist views on something she obviously never experienced
thank goddess that white trash WILL NOT be veep
americans arent THAT dumb
did u know it took her 6 years and 4 colleges to get a bachelors degree?
most prez and veep candidates have at least a masters.
she's a disgusting disgrace to my gender and i cant wait til we all forget about her
noneofyerbiznezz 3 years ago