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  • Daniel Hannan has to be one of THE most incredible speakers EVER!

  • The issue is The old Hardcore tories, we're very right winged, they no longer are, hence I am a member of "The Monday Club." The issue is though that britain has undergone a lot of socialistic values that are now ingrained into society, by removing them you will only create a stigma, and it's suicidal to do so in a democracy. The Head of state actually prepared to remove Wilson, in fear of the UK becoming a socialist nation.

  • Blimey, you think Hannan is cool, you should check out Nigel Farage, it seems Englands best politicians are not in the UK Parliament but in the European parliament that we are fighting to get out of. Out of Europe then out of Britain.

  • Great video man but I just have one thing to point out: when you refer to the Prime Minister, he's not the Prime Minister "of England"; he's the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (or Great Britain).

    I am Scottish - though British above all - and this annoys the hell out of me.

  • @HULLOHULLO15 don't be bovered by the americans most don't know where uk is on the map. What bothers me is when england gets blamed for everthing that's wrong with the union when we don't even have owr own parliment. besides n ireland hate it when america calls the uk great britain what matters is we know who we are

  • There really is no hope for Britain at this point. They have already completely pissed away their culture and economy with open borders and run away deficit spending. Their right of center politicians sound a lot like their left of center politicians. They now have a state of kept automatons waiting for the next hand out and directive from their state overlords. They riot when their "entitlements" are threatened and become more coarse and ignorant with each passing day. Godspeed Mr Hannan...

  • Why is this guy? His English sounds kind of unusual for me.

  • Satisfaction of the NHS is 2010 was at a record high ( google it and see for yourself) The Conservatives cannot get their reforms through Parliament now that Nick Clegg has decided to oppose them - obviously in order to try and save the Liberal Democrat party, politicians that mess with the NHS do so at their own risk, it could mean political suicide.

  • Hannan is hated by a lot of people in the UK - he is out of touch with most British people, he hates our health service - yet the vast majority of British people fully support the National Health Service.

    Many British people believe him to be a traitor - he went on American TV and criticised our health service, in the so called "land of the free" where your wallet is key to whether you get good health treatment - disgusting.

  • @Whitbywatcher Do you have any evidence that the vast majority fully support the NHS? I'd agree the majority doesn't want it to be privatised, but the NHS needs desperate reform at the ground level in GP's surgeries and at a structural level to get rid of ridiculous pensions. The NHS needs reform.

  • @Whitbywatcher Maybe the UK people should wake up with the U.S. people. I love his principles. They sound like those of Thomas Jefferson.

  • Great speech. I wish this guy could yell at Obama like this. Obama and Brown worship the same gods and have similarly destroyed a once great republic.

  • @jamo387 Agreed

  • Daniel Hannan has done a real hatchet job on Gordon Brown, which probably hastened his departure as Prime Minster. The thing is, he's absolutely right, GB was not fit to be Prime Minster. We need a few more Daniel Hannans in the Conservative Party to rid us of the dinosaur that is the European Union.

  • @TheBarcelona42 they've all switched to UKIP. Hannan is the only one left in the torries

  • Not the British Parliament, the EU Parliament

  • ANTI NWO PARTY would be the declaration of war

  • Steve, you need to add to the meta tags the words obama NWO progressive liberal Barry Soetoro George Soros. Thanks for posting this! Americans NEED to hear this...because our current administration is doing the exact same things to us!

  • he's a british mEp - member of the european parliament

  • slewofdamascus.... dead on. perfect. and the elite mega rich, will be politicians and there friends who fund there campaigns, not free market ceo's. in other words the wealth creators who are the mega rich now, will be destroyed or bought off by politicians.

  • Thank god Brown has gone

  • @AndrewJM70 don't worry, another Bilderberger took his place!

  • @manelmariarodrigues well I'm not complaining; even Donald Duck would have been an improvement.

  • Not crazy about the "vessels" and "ships" metaphor, because if you know about the nature of the court systems, both here and in Britain, and if you know about the nature of our "straw man", then you must recognize this could very well be another example of controlled opposition. I am not inclined to believe that the use of such metaphors are cooincidental in nature.

  • I saw Daniel Hannan speak tonight here in Santa Barbara. He was amazing, and such an excellent speaker. Not a teleprompter in sight. He has a beautiful way of speaking and a deep love for America and a true conservative patriot of his own country, Great Britain. He made me cry with his glowing remarks of our Founding Fathers and how Obama has no understanding of the love and respect of our two nations. He just wrote a book "The New Serfdom" and says to America, don't follow the path of Europe.

  • I find it quite comical that steve gill uses 'born in the usa' bearing in mind springsteen is a supporter of the democratic party.

  • Great video - wished we had a Republican with his testicular fortitude and clear headedness...

  • No where near as good as what he said to the EU president,lol

  • @booker90 where is that clip?

  • He's not an MP, assface. He's a Member of the European Parliament.

  • One world government will not work. The EU is proof of this. You cannot place a country like Greece, and GB under the same economic umbrella and expect that Greece won't end up being a leach on the common economic system. Greece doesn't have the industrial infrastructure to produce enough capitol to maintain parity with countries like GB or Germany. This is why the NAU will fail. As much industrial capacity as we have, it won't be enough to keep us, and Canada, and Mexico afloat.

    -Oz

  • @Ozlanthos But if you look at it from their perspective, it's exactly the prescription they are looking for - they want everyone poor, like in China. That is the model that the whole western world is following. They want to end travel (take over the airports with draconian police-state tactics causing a fall in ridership which creates airline financial failures and governement take-over - check!). They desire 3 classes. The poor=95%/The Less-poor (middle manag.)=3 1/2%/The Elite=mega-rich 1 1/2%

  • He's an MEP idiot! Why can't right wing Americans ever get their facts right!

    Further more we only have an unsustainable budget deficit because we had to re-capitalize the thieving banks!

    If you want to take any examples from British members of Parliament then follow the only unifying, cross party consensual issue, a strong National Health Service

  • Unfortunately, we no longer have the death penalty here in Britain because in more enlightened times former Prime Minister Gordon Brown would have been executed for treason. For the Labour leadership to have promised promised us a referendum on the European Union Lisbon Treaty then sign it anyway behind our backs was treason.

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  • Prime Minister of Great Britain... England is only a constituant country you fucking oaf.

    American education is almost as shitty as ours.

  • well I guess what you mean is that he supports Obama. I dont like that oersonally one bit in in fact. So what's wrong with u fellas down there huh!

  • @KCArmstrongXIV I never pointed out registered members dipshit. I'm pointing out the fact that the US is a center-right country and the majority of the people in the country identify with Republican values even if they don't register as a Republican. Whose lying? I'm pointing out the truth. Maybe you should actually do some research on this issue before opening your mouth. Moving on.

  • @KCArmstrongXIV A minority? Seriously? The US is a center-right country and the Republicans are very much in a majority considering the population. Moving on.

  • Britain mate, not England.

  • Just replace the words "Prime Minster" with "Obama" and it's as if he is talking to the "devalued" President Obama. His every word personifies the actions of our "devalued" government leaders in U.S. right now!

  • @KCArmstrongXIV lol hey man the repubs suck too, thats why there is a Libertarian Party :D

  • Daniel Hannan is a great who speaks his mind, and exposes politicians words and actions for what they really mean, and it is precisely for this reason that he will be constantly shunned and ignored by the powerful. He should join UKIP.

  • @nofatchicks6 i agree

  • thats us english free in speech only!!!!!

  • oy Gill! keep your hands off our hannan!!

  • "Prime Minister of England". Ok, I give up. GET IT RIGHT YOU FUCKING NUMBSKULLS. It's "Prime Minster of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" GET IT? If you're going to make a serious point, GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS RIGHT FIRST. Jesus H Christ. How many more times must we keep telling you? Are you clinically thick?

  • @sulijoo It should just be Prime minister of Great britain as northern ireland is part of britain so no need to add it on the end we dont do it with gib and falklands cayman bermuda etc now do we

  • @JamesCunnyy You're from this nation yet you do not know it's title; it is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

    Onto Daniel Hannan MEP, he's a half decent politician, he has potential but he has to stop trying to emulate his political heroes and to name the most prominent one, Enoch Powell

    The electorate in this country are stupid, we have a government that builds a strong economy then we vote in an idiot to undo all the hard work and increase public spending twofold

  • There is waaaayyyy TOO much welfare in Britain. You need to vote these pricks out that want to give a free ride to those welfare scumbags who will bleed you dry.

    Also, it's waaaayyy past time to STOP THE INFLUX of immigrants that are destroying your country. AND STOP ALL THESE FUCKING MUSLIMS FROM CONTROLING YOUR COUNTRY. These rat bastards are anything BUT Europeans....they are the cancer of your society.

    Wake up people.

  • @scottishlad1987 hear hear. Clegg looks good because he's youthful and hes offering something he calls totally different, but problem is we're so desperate for change we'll vote anybody in-He might be young and hung but i don't trust someone who wants to teach young Children about Gay relationships, i don't trust someone who wants to give Illegal Immigrants an Amnesty if they're illegally here for 10 years, hes a total wet.

  • we call the americans stupid, but they can spot intelligence when they see it, unlike most brits who liked nick clegg just because he remembered some people's names who asked the questions on the leaders debate and his choice of tie. brits are politically illiterate.

  • I don't care what Steve Gill has to say (I grew up in Nashville, listened to his show on occasion, and even called in once—he's an idiot, who obviously doesn't even know the difference between the European Parliament and the British Parliament), but this is one of Daniel Hannan's greatest speeches ever.

  • Brown has taken to spitting on British war heroes with high awards for gallantry, that fought without proper kit BECAUSE OF BROWN.

    This sums up Brown`s treason.

    He is scum.

  • Nigel Farage from UKIP. He is THE MAN!!

    I like Daniel Hannan as well.

  • gordon brown is a childish prick,and i wanna see him hung.

  • Glad to see someone drawing parallels to that happen in the EU and US. Love to listen to Hannan and Farage rip into those guys and call them out.

    It is a little disappointing we live in times when a Fire Alarm is pulled and a reactions are so mixed.

    Thanks for the post!

  • First of all: Hannan is not a very good speaker. Nigel Farage is the most eloquent euroskeptic, if you want to listen to someone haranguing buerocrats, check him out instead. Second: Steve Gill is a birther kook. He'll be telling us about how the Jews brought down the Twin Towers and the earth is really flat next.

  • you know,this guy wants me to bring back capital punishment

  • Wow, Daniel Hannan is an excellent speaker whom I love to listen to!!

  • Daniel Hannan is not a member of the "British" parliament. He is a member of the Europeam parliament. But he Daniel Hannan is right.

  • I like Hannan and think he speaks a lot of sense. But I wholeheartedly disagree with what he said about the NHS is a 60 year failure. Cant understand why he is a conservative. I thought that he was UKIP

  • We need an anti NWO party

  • @mmtot no we need AK-47's

  • First of all Phil Hannan is an MEP not an MP, so he has pretty much no say domesically anyway. Additionally, as has been pointed out, there is no such thing as a 'prime minister of england.' But hey why would i expect a right wing american soapbox to present anything approximating to the truth?

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  • @indusv... There is one golden rule of writing a critique of someone elses comment or video, picking up on the flaws they have made - and that is to be accurate.

    In this you have absolutely failed, calling the MEP "Phil Hannan" instead of Daniel Hannan. In making such a blatant error you are associating your argument (which may otherwise have grabbed the attention of the easily persuaded) with incompetence and stupidity.

    If you must write an arrogant reply, please get the facts right...

  • Brown a good speaker? The man spews forth excrement with each sentence' a total danger to the UK & utterly deluded...

  • Prime Minister of England?.... you mean Britain????

  • It was Labour that de-regulated the way banks operated. Thats why we are in this mess along with other countries that allowed banks to gamble capital in reckless ways, leaving the tax payers to foot the bill, only to have their faces slapped by bankers giving themselves multi million pound bonuses for been rescued. Brown is rightly criticised, if the conservatives were in power and did the same, they would be criticised, and rightly so.

  • Also, for years he's argued for an economic model based on Iceland. Its funny that since Iceland went bust and had to go crawling to the IMF he hasn't really said much on the matter.

  • He is not a member of parliament you retard - he's a MEP.

    You can have him if you want. He's a dick. Also, he's a member of a party who would have done even less to control the financial system had they been in power over the last decade so its a bit rich criticising Brown in hindsight.

  • @popspie, Labour havent done anything to stop the banking sector repeat history. In one sense they were right to save the banks, but they crucially failed (whilst having a controlling interest) to implement proper regulation, and havent even stopped the obscene bonus payouts that are once again prospering. Because they were saved, and picked up alot of trade from defunct financial institutions, this now entitles them to obscene payouts. Unbelievable. It will happen again.

  • He's a good speaker, that has to be said.

    All he does, though, is say what the situation is and to criticise.

    One question: WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAPPENED? LET THE MARKETS SORT THEMSELVES OUT AND HAVE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE REACH 20% AND LET EVERYONES SAVINGS VANISH??? If we'd have let that happen, the prime minister would still be under a shitstorm. That is why I'm deaf to all this criticism; because, either way, there will be criticism.

  • Hannan is a European cock and has no support for the UK

  • 1. He isn't a member of the British Parliament, he's a member of the European Parliament.

    2. There's no such thing as English Prime Minister. It's British Prime Minister. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Daniel Hannan is your typical out of touch Conservative. Looking to make cheap opportunist remarks, which will grab him some headlines. Maybe you should do a bit of research first.

  • GB is history UKIP is our future

  • @thelightshineson The theme of this video is seriously flawed. This idea on the part of Steve Gill that Hannan should be piloted into the States to orchestrate the verbal attack on Obama. Hannan is not a U.S. politician. He has no knowledge of the political intricacies of either Congess or the Senate. Please stop asking for him to be piloted into Washington. It's an inane suggestion. Does Steve Gill have any qualifications whatsoever? - other than shooting his mouth off ?

  • hurricaneUK = retard

  • @hurricaneUK

    play this video to any man in the street and see if he agrees with Hannan.

    You know he will!!

    SO you are the minority - and do not forget that ...and talking nutters look at the left wing nutters

    in 1979 they nearly bankrupted this country

    in 2009 they have done it again ....bring on the RING WING NUTTERS - THE MAJORITY shall prevail!!

  • @hurricaneUK You are one inbred fucking idiot. He's a whole lot more intelligent than you are retard.

  • Where is our USA Daniel Hannan today? We need someone like this here and now on the day the congress wants our debt ceiling to raise 1.8 trillion.

  • Yoi should make a collection amongst the folks in your town/city. You could then get Daniel Hannan to visit you on a special scholarship. After a few months of listening to him whinging, you could then learn how to whinge for the USA.

  • Well you've got Peter Schiff is running for the senate

  • @TheCassandraReview Yeah right. No one else in Congress or the Senate is capable of articulating a cogent opposition to the current incumbent of the White House. And my name is Flying Pigs.

    Why would you want a British politician - with no experience of US politics - to orchestrate the opposition in the U.S. Houses of Congress. Are you mad? Or did your skip a few synapses when you penned your comments a week ago?

  • You have one, Ron Paul. He's less eloquent, but just as brilliant.

  • Oh for god's sake, he's a Member of the European Parliament, not the Parliament in Westminster. Does this guy not bother checking Wikipedia for 5 seconds before posting a YouTube video?

  • nitpicker!

    THe important aspect of this video is what Hannan says to Brown.

    nobody cares about a minor biographical error by steve gill.

  • admittedly, an MP and an MEP are two very different things, though scourge.

  • It's a stupid mistake - there are no excuses considering how readily available information is on the web nowadays. As a side note, I agree with much of what Mr Hannan is saying, but when our political system gets misrepresented in America because of some idiot's clumsy error it does get frustrating.

  • False to state that "every British child is born owing about £20,000". This presupposes some form of civil liability on the part of each and every one of these children. Which, of course, is not the case.

    Of course, the host of this American programme was probably briefed by his researcher. As is often the case with many U.S. broadcasters, the host, personally, probably knows very little about Hannan. Hence his mistaken belief that Hannan is a "Conservative member of Parliament in England".

  • Well, in a way it is very true. Beacuse it probably is the young people and children born today, that in the future have to work, produce and get heavily taxed, so that the governments around the world can pay of the debt they are accumulating now. Either that, or the debt will be eated up by increasing inflation, with all the bad consequences that then follows.

  • It's your prerogative to believe tbat that statement is "very true". Let's just agree to differ. I believe that the statement is a complete nonsense, hoowever you construe it.

  • Steve Gill and his researchers must be extremely limited. Note how, near the start of this video, Gill refers to "Gordon Brown" as "Gordon Browning"? How many mistakes would Steve Gill make in an average programme? Twenty? Thirty? Forty?

  • the claim that "every British child is born owing about 20,000 pounds" is correct if the child consents to pay taxes. that would be the average debt upon which the crown would demand that the average citizen continue to pay debt payments (taxes) in perpetuity. such a citizen would end up being stuck for much more, but the perpetual drain on that citizen's productive capacity and earnings would come from an average debt of 20,000 pounds per citizen.

  • Hundreds of thousands of Britons elect to live outside of the United Kingdom. Majorca being a place where literally tens of thousands of British people have their permanent domiciles. The reality is that we have choice in life, especially in an EU context. You're mistaken in thinking that "every British child is born owing 20,000 pounds". What you really mean is that "every tax payer in the U.K. (present or future) owes £20,000". Many British taxpayers of foreign nationality pay tax in the U.K.

  • exactly why I said that the claim is correct if the child consents to pay taxes.

  • Even if the child consents to pay taxes, he will not pay the amount specified by you. The reality is that hundreds of thousands of non-Britons pay taxes in the U.K. So Hannan's statement that "every British child is born owing about £20,000 pounds" is a misrepresentation of the true position.

  • so, the plan to shield the British child from some of the taxation that results from excessive government spending... is to somehow convince non-citizens to subject themselves to British taxation. When the British government continues to spend beyond its means and devalue the pound (causing higher taxes and lower purchasing power), why would many businesses want to come to Britain? Hannan's original point remains true, Britain MUST cut government spending to be globally competitive.

  • There are already hundreds of thousands of French people living in the U.K., and paying British taxes. You don't have to persuade them to come to Britain. They're happy to be there ; France does not afford them the same work opportunities.

    I repeat. The Hannan figures are a nonsense. Not every baby will stay in the U.K. and work in the U.K. And many millions of foreigners will pay tax in the U.K. in the years ahead.

  • I see. The plan to shield British subjects from such an oppressive tax burden is to convince foreigners to accept Britain's tax burden as being less oppressive than that of France. Aim higher.

  • No you do not see, The French are already in the U.K. As explained in the Telegraph today, 10% of the people living in the U.K. were not born there. Applying that to the Hannan figures, it has a massive impact on the so-called 'average' figure allegedly owed by every British child. Hannan's figures are serously off the mark. Why can't you just accept that instead of speculating about the future. The French and other nationalities have already arrived in the UK.

  • British women already are having less than 2 children each (largely because of diminished economic prospects from the high tax burden and devalued pound). Immigration has become necessary for the UK to escape population loss. Many nations in Europe already experience net loss and Europe as a whole is at or near a population peak. As British families are under continued economic pressure, where will immigrants come from? poorer Muslim immigrants from North Africa and Middle East, more than Europe

  • Fine, but I reiterate what I said earlier about the less than impressive, eponymous host of the Steve Gill Show. He thinks that Gordon Brown's real name is Gordon Browning. Hardly a tribute to Hannan that Gill features Hannan's attack on Brown. In the final analysis, Gill seems to be a complete moron. He probably doesn't even know that Britain has a Prime Minister (as opposed to a President!). Spare us from provincial Americans like Steve Gill.

  • it's not very surprising that Americans don't follow European or British politics. His point was that Daniel Hannan is making the very points that all political leaders should be making: that government spending is excessive and harmful, that government sugar-coating our economic troubles does not help anyone nor even fool most people. Everything Hannan said to Brown should also be said to President Obama and his party in Congress. (forgive him if he didn't fact-check the details.)

  • No, I do not forgive him. Someone like Jeremy Paxman would have all of these facts at his fingertips. At a minimum, Gill should get the name of the British Prime Minister correct. George Bush was pistol whipped (verbally) every time he got the name of an obscure Eastern potentate wrong. Gill should not be in the business of news if he doesn't have a broader world view. Typical of the kind of sensationalist (and inaccurate) broadcaster produced by the Fox News Channel in the States.

  • admittedly, there shouldn't be such a thing as the EP and Britain (and all intelligent European nations) should abandon the European Union and reassert their national sovereignty as free and independent nations.

  • Gordon Browning? A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square? Gill is a total dildo when it comes to getting the facts correct.

  • At least he ripped the nickers Mr Brown who is clearly NWO

    He sold all the gold reserves off to the rothchilds at its lowest eb its Called Browns Bottoms day.

    Conservative are the same they both blow up eachothers arses soon s the camaras are turned of

    We are fkd long time

  • fcuk these New World Order fags...

  • its all too late now seeing as we have been sold down the river by a traitor unelected prime minister

  • Daniel Hannan is a Conservative MEP who is best pals with Nigel Farage, UKIP leader.

    We all know that Europe is a political graveyard in terms of success in westminster, so he will never be a leader. Also, his close proximity to UKIP and the European Independence & Democracy party means that there is a glass ceiling for him at the conservative party.

    As much as i would love to see Mr Hannan lead the conservative party, it will never happen.

  • What the hell is the presenter on about?

    Daniel Hannan is an MEP not an MP; Gordon Brown is PM of BRITAIN not England... and ROFL Gordon Brown does NOT think he's another Barack Obama. He's not THAT thick.

    I like Hannan, but he's still in the traitorous Tories. Vote UKIP!

  • Memeber of EUROPEAN Parliament in Brussels! (MEP) Not the Commons in London! (MP)

  • I'm an immigrate from South Africa, and I knew very little of the UK government here. However I have to fork out £1000 everytime to renew my Visa! And they want to clamp down more on immigrants... What for I'm not illegal! Clamp down on the illegal ones Gordon Brown not the ones paying £1000 to your government every 2 years to renew my Visa!

  • Fair point but I think we can both agree that this country is over populated!

    What I hate is the way they seem to accept so many from nations where the minimum wage is far lower than ours and so few from nations where its not.

    So many Polish people accepted...

    They seem to refuse Canadians/Australians etc.. Thats racism!

    Iv only met one South African in Britain.

    I'v lost count of the Poles iv met...

    We need a fair play policy on immigration

    Not a new slave labour policy!

  • they cannot stop EU immigration only immigration from outside the EU. Peoople in Poland have as much right to live and work in the UK as we do in Poland,. We all have an EU passport.

  • Yeah, exactly, that's the problem.

  • i would have to agree with you.

  • I don't know if anyone has pointed this out already and i apologise if they have done, but dan hannan is not a member off the british parliament, he is a member off the european parliament speaking to gordon brown in brussels, although i whole heartedly agree with dan hannan an error like this damages the conservative case enourmously as it makes us look ignorant

  • Are British conservatives actually real fiscal conservatives? The American conservatives certainly are not, so Hannan's rhetoric wouldn't really hold water in the US.

  • Excellent comment Indefatigable4.

    David Cameron, the leader of the British Conservative Party, has already distanced himself from Hannan's rhetoric.

    See Cameron raps MEP over NHS attack.

  • -- Americans can just dream about this level of democracy in USA ...

  • jeez....its just been reported that he died this afternoon from heart failure

  • Can you tell me where this figure comes from and is it government debt or does it include personal and corporate debt?

  • CIA WorldFactbook, External Debt does include both External Government Debt and Corporate External Debt. Also, recently the UK is in negative equity in terms of Public Debt. Public Debt for the United Kingdom stands at $2.1 Trillion, while the GDP (nominal) is $2.0 Trillion.

  • You previously gave UK external debt at $10.47 Trillion, it seems to have dropped a fair way in the last three days. Also you have previously given the UK external debt as being higher than the US. Are you aware that the UK could be dropped into Texas with room to spare and the US is a debtor to the UK?

  • aa comon Gordon Brown  will save the world

    ops world banks =P

  • Do you mean that the U S of A, mom's apple pie and all, has no intention of honouring it's debts?

    Let's face it if your country was split into pieces to repay all it's creditors there would be nothing left for its own population.

  • Come on herbie, where's the reply? Are you like your youtube channel, only capable of promoting Republican propaganda?

  • I would like to see the US creditors try to claim any piece of the country from its own population, it can not be done so your argument is meaningless.

  • Yes fair enough. I apologise for that, it came from herbs814's strange obsession with UK debt when the US is actually a debtor to the UK. It was a response to the remark that it was the UK's fault for lending the money in the first place.

  • Daniel Hannan says "the country as a whole is now in negative equity". Does he understand what that means? Our debt exceeds our assets does it?

    He then says that Britain is in a worse position than any other G20 country, yet the most perfunctory glance shows that Japan has a national debt of 190% of GDP in 2008, and Britain about 45%. Even with PFI and public sector pensions, which are questionable, the figure was approx 100%.

    Maybe someone can explain why what he says isn't nonsense.

  • As absurd as it sounds, Japan is a net creditor rather than a net debtor like UK. Japan owns more in foreign assets or holdings of the debts of others, the reverse of UK. Japan is highly leveraged, but it is not a net debtor like UK.

  • herbs814. The UK is a major creditor of the USA. As absurb as it sounds.

  • and Japan is a greater creditor to the US than is the UK. UK is still in a precarious position... only being made worse by the excessive spending and protectionism of Brown's labor party.

  • Well then, the US repays the UK the $128+ billion that it owes and the UK's position becomes a lot less precarious.

  • If the UK was dumb enough to loan the money, the UK should suffer the consequence. If you don't like that, complain to your government, not to me.

  • Thank you for the answer. The national debt figures do not take into account national credit? That renders them rather useless, surely.

    How about Italy then?

  • Italy's debt as a % of GDP is higher than any G8 nation other than Japan. One in five Italians is over 65 years old (will likely demand more from government welfare programs than they will contribute in taxes). Italian women have only 1.4 children per woman. The population is not growing enough to provide workers that can support the overburdened govt welfare programs. Italy also depends on imports for more than 90% of their oil and natural gas. Heavy taxation and govt spending cripple Italy.

  • The main problems with the NHS have arisen from those parts of it which have been put out to privatised competition. Same with the rail service, which has been far behind France and Germany. Thankfully, our government seems at last to be learning from those mistakes.

  • The problem with NHS is that the whole thing is a corrupt, coercive pyramid scheme. Like all pyramid schemes it can appear to work when there are many suckers who believe in it and fewer people who collect on it. The solution to NHS is not to rob more suckers to feed the bottomless hole, but to end the evil pyramid scheme ASAP.

  • That's not actually true though. It might be the case that some members of the public would pay less under a private scheme, but that is not true for the vast majority of the population. That is partly because of the efficiency savings (which statistically could not be more blatant) arising from the incentives within your system, and partly because it is both economically profitable and moral that unnecessary ill health is not inflicted upon poor people.

  • Efficiency savings? That word is alien to a government health system. Yes, supplier costs are highly controlled, but doctors' and nurses' salaries are in the basement leading to a brain drain of staff but any savings are swallowed up by a huge growth in bureaucrats and administrators who end up outnumbering the frontline medical staff. The US does not need this 'solution' - you just need to ensure your system is a true free market with no government interference with a safety net for the poor

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  • England needs more cameras to watch their people. They're up to no good.

  • America wants him? Please take him. We don't need pompous morons like him in parliament, he's just a man who, since this speech, has clearly been trying to cash in on their five minutes of fame. "World leader to come"? Hannan will be thrown out of the Conservative Party before he gets anywhere near a ministerial role in Westminster.

  • Nonsense man, what we need is more people like him how understand the workings of our ecomony, who understands our public values in the UK. "Cash in of 5 minutes of fame"? don't be daft he is a politain it's his job to apear on tv and tell us his point of view (a view people keep voting for too).

  • It's a politician's job to appear on T.V.? How come the cringeworthy creature doesn't appear on T.V. in the U.K.?

  • And for god sakes, democracies, stop it with this "minister" BS to describe cabinets. They're cabinet secretaries.  Minister was originally a Christian clergyman. Why are you using that to describe secular gov't?

  • We have history in this country and culture! cheers mate but take it from a real country that wasnt born yesterday we'll stick with our own ways! daniel hannan really is a dick he is one of the most hated people in britain now!

  • Jlees200uk- bollocks he is not the most hated man in Britain or else why did we vote him back in? Mans a genius and millions of Brit agree. Is Brown signing your benefit checks is that why you dislike Hannan?

  • He didnt make the comments till after the election moron!!! Now everyone hates him. you cant attack the NHS rule one of being a UK politition. Not overly keen on Brown mate probably better than having cameron in. we need another Blair!!! guys a legend! let me just ask everyone this what happens with your insurance when you crash your car? imagine if the same thing happened when you got sick!

  • Genius? you are a moron. He's destroyed this country and your great great grandchildren will be paying off the debts this man has got us into.

  • Are you talking to me 32GaugeSlug?

    I agree with you. I said Hannan is a genius. Browns a moron.

  • No sorry, the dickhead underneath you (I think). Maybe I was drunk.

  • You probably can't even tell NHS healthcare apart from Soviet healthcare, really. Of course, the Soviet leaders were total assholes, but the British leaders tend to be "nice" redistributionists, so the British system is probably just a little better.

  • You should also think about renaming some of your agencies or positions in gov't. I mean, Chancellor of the Exchequer?? Here we just call it Treasury Secretary. Your term for it sounds like some really grand powerful position when all he does is manage the gov't finances.

    Member of Parliament? Get with it, people! English is a versatile language. Do it like us in the US, where members of Congress are CongressMEN. Parliamentians should be the term.

  • I HATE welfarists like the Labor Party or the Greens. What a bunch of redistributionist assholes.  They think GOVERNMENT makes the economy work, but it's the other way around. The economy works in the right environment, which produces the tax revenue NECESSARY to fund these expenditures. Besides, the concept of an entire "labor" party is ludicrous! Workers aren't that weak and fragile, are they? They need an entire big political party to be protectionist for them? Oh yeah, the Democrats.

  • Britons can keep their silly socialized medicine. The funny thing is that they actually went the idiotic full-blown nationalization route on healthcare. Yet no Britons look at better models for NHS and say "Hey, maybe this'll fix some of our problems." On the other hand, other NHS nations like France and Canada merely have the government FUND it, more or less. Of course, I'm always against UHC, regardless.

  • He should probably stay in Britain for his country's sake. They could use a bright man like him who actually understands economics and doesn't believe in big government and that Keynesian bullshit. Too much Keynesianism was the reason the Nordic economies had to be rescued a few decades ago with lower taxes and massive privatization.  The gov't was simply spending WAY too much as part of the economy. France is in a similar situation, of course.