Everyone should get paid more. Not less. The problem here is that we pay some people so little thay can't afford anything. Teachers should get paid more. Hell burger flippers should be paid more because without them, who is going to serve people who give money burgers. All people should be able to afford college, who gives a flying fig what they pay presidents, I have an issue with how much a really good education costs vs how much MOST people in the US are paid.
It amazes me the universities that are paying all of that. UCF's president is making 800 grand a year? UCF isn't as big as U of FL or FSU, why aren't their presidents making more? It doesn't make sense. And did you notice Harvard & Yale's presidents aren't up there? So it isn't prestige, it isn't size, what makes THEIR jobs so much harder than other university presidents?
I remember the former President of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University Pre-2007 was fired for using student funds in buying private jets for personal benefit.
i paid 10k a year for my econ BA so that i can be in a class with 400 people, paying $100 for a book i used for 10 weeks, so that my professors who barely spoke English could read to me from a power point.
Compared to bankers and stock market/hedge fund managers, these presidents don't make much at all. Other than U. Ohio, all are UNDER 1 million, can we say that for thousands of useless bank execs who got us into such a financial mess? Why shouldn't teachers and professors make more than the bankers in this nation? What good do bankers do, versus what good those who teach do?
"Why shouldn't teachers and professors make more than the bankers in this nation? What good do bankers do, vs what good those who teach do?" University presidents are not teachers, professors, or researchers.They are the spokespersons/chiefs of the university. How about we stop ripping off adjunct professors who teach the bulk of UG classes for little and cut the pay of these figureheads as opposed to downsizing professors and underpaying them? I agree bankers only benefit themselves
@mistacramer Most University Presidents are Ph.D.'s with a solid track record in teaching, publication, and management at lower levels of university leadership. In the two major universities I worked at, selection criteria for the Presidency included a rigorous review of their academic accomplishments, their prior demonstrated leadership skills, and their ability to attract $. Bright accomplished respected academicians with energy and a plan to bring in millions more than their salaries.
@mistacramer One university president, a leader in research into Cancer, brought in hundreds of millions of dollars to both that university and two others located in the same major city. Her salary: half a million, well deserved. She even still manages research and publishes and teaches seminars.
@lordcheetah There are more doctors than there are people who can be hired as University Presidents. Thus presidents are valued more and can demand more pay.
@xbertocoaylax Only if doctors and uprez produce the same value (which I'd argue they don't). Maybe if you compare the doctor in charge of a hospital to a uprez. Maybe
@lordcheetah Value is subjective. If you value a service you will be more willing to pay more for it. Somebody values the service that these University Presidents give and they pay them accordingly.
Presidents don't do much work - they have their assistants and advisors (who usually make 100k - 300k each, and each president has anywhere between 3 - 10) who do all the work,. The job of the president is to get the credit for everyone else's work and give the blame of the negative effects of shit he signs that have negative effects on the university to other people.
Ana is making me crazy. It is The Ohio State University. Always say "the". When I started at OSU in 95, Gee was president. After a few years, we lost him to Brown University. It was a big blow because President Gee was such a big part of OSU. He even had his own cookie (a bowtie).
He came back to us a few years later and everyone was pretty happy. Since the 90s, the calibre of student has improved a lot. And one of our most famous grads (founder of Victoria Secret) just gave OSU
@mictheorist Yeah, screw those several hundred people that won't be able to get an education because of one greedy asshole. It's not like this country is falling apart and full of the most ignorant people in the western world. Everything is perfect and the worship of money never collapses empires.
if ur in it for the money, then ur doing it for the wrong reasons. college is being treated like a business and that's a big reason why us students have such a small voice.
a good example. University at Buffalo. it snows almost the entire school year, but they build fountains on campus, but the fountains is operational only during the summer months. when no one is there.
My university doesn't have any fountains but there are a bunch of big modern art sculptures. I hope they were free because they are retaded and that is somewhere cuts can be made
Oh man this pisses me off. I go to USF, and my tuition keep going up. They shift the burden of their created deficit into the poorest of the poor going there. Go ahead build another new building that's not going to be used. And give raises to everyone. It's ok those dumb kids think they're being benefited by going to college, HAHAHA.
It doesn't matter what percentage of the budget it is. It's the principle of the thing. You can't demand that students take on even more debt while you're making hundreds of thousands from your "stressful" job.
Of course the university budget is bigger than one presidents pay: a university employs hundreds of PhDs as professors who rightfully get paid ~$200,000. Does he deserve to get paid as 10 PhD professors?
If The University is private then its no ones business how much anyone makes there. If they get state funding they should be paid for by results, the numbers dont shock me, they are doing an important job. The Highest Paid one made in a year what charlie sheen made in one episode of two and a half men.
Comparing this to Charile Sheen's salary is dumb. That just shows that our priories as a society are focused more on rewarding jackass than educating people.
@flake452 Work is sold like a commodity. Would you buy something from a store where you only knew the price you had to pay and not what anyone else had to pay?
@flake452 If its public I agree it should be based on performance but come on 1.8 million that is over 4 times what the president of the US makes. If its private its no one business, but the college's.
@Theimmortalwhitewolf Well, the president of the USA isn't doing a very good job is he so of course he shouldn't get more. (And the president does get paid more than these school presidents in corporate donations)
No one on earth is worth a million dollars a year. No one. That's fucking insane! They should be capped at 250K and the rest should go towards the students for grants and scholarships. No wonder this country is fucked and getting worse.
@bamboo4tameshigiri That's absurd. 250k is a comfortable living but it's not worth the absolute hell you have to go through to work your ass off to get to that position.
@bamboo4tameshigiri You don't seem to have a very good concept of what 150k can actually get you. If you have a family with multiple kids, for instance, that's like damn near poverty.
@bamboo4tameshigiri Some of us don't want to follow the retarded meme of "work until you're 67, get SS", we'd liek to work really hard early on and only later work if we feel like it. Go read some Paul Graham essays and start a startup to actually add to the wealth pool of humanity instead of just grabbing a 250k-sized chunk of the existing wealth.
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yarey84 3 months ago
Everyone should get paid more. Not less. The problem here is that we pay some people so little thay can't afford anything. Teachers should get paid more. Hell burger flippers should be paid more because without them, who is going to serve people who give money burgers. All people should be able to afford college, who gives a flying fig what they pay presidents, I have an issue with how much a really good education costs vs how much MOST people in the US are paid.
RenaeRay2 9 months ago
Funny how these salaries do not correlate to university rankings.
sadathusain 10 months ago 3
That's it, I'm going to community college first even though I've been accepted to 4 colleges with scholarships
flipmaya 10 months ago
lool imagine they showed private uni presidents money, ana woulda had a heart attack...
ILockItDown 11 months ago
GO COUGS!
Iant800 11 months ago
Lot of my professors would tell you that our university's president doesn't deserve the money they're getting.
MyPaperBleedsInk 11 months ago
It amazes me the universities that are paying all of that. UCF's president is making 800 grand a year? UCF isn't as big as U of FL or FSU, why aren't their presidents making more? It doesn't make sense. And did you notice Harvard & Yale's presidents aren't up there? So it isn't prestige, it isn't size, what makes THEIR jobs so much harder than other university presidents?
jenisedai 11 months ago
I remember the former President of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University Pre-2007 was fired for using student funds in buying private jets for personal benefit.
ERAUPRCWA 11 months ago
These presidents should not get paid more then the President of the United States. Plain and simple.
Bluelincolnpark 11 months ago
@Bluelincolnpark Anybody should get paid whatever someone feels like paying them.
xbertocoaylax 11 months ago
@xbertocoaylax not with my tax dollars
Bluelincolnpark 11 months ago
i paid 10k a year for my econ BA so that i can be in a class with 400 people, paying $100 for a book i used for 10 weeks, so that my professors who barely spoke English could read to me from a power point.
JackShephard69 11 months ago
Compared to bankers and stock market/hedge fund managers, these presidents don't make much at all. Other than U. Ohio, all are UNDER 1 million, can we say that for thousands of useless bank execs who got us into such a financial mess? Why shouldn't teachers and professors make more than the bankers in this nation? What good do bankers do, versus what good those who teach do?
awreslr2 11 months ago
@awreslr2
"Why shouldn't teachers and professors make more than the bankers in this nation? What good do bankers do, vs what good those who teach do?" University presidents are not teachers, professors, or researchers.They are the spokespersons/chiefs of the university. How about we stop ripping off adjunct professors who teach the bulk of UG classes for little and cut the pay of these figureheads as opposed to downsizing professors and underpaying them? I agree bankers only benefit themselves
mistacramer 11 months ago
@mistacramer Most University Presidents are Ph.D.'s with a solid track record in teaching, publication, and management at lower levels of university leadership. In the two major universities I worked at, selection criteria for the Presidency included a rigorous review of their academic accomplishments, their prior demonstrated leadership skills, and their ability to attract $. Bright accomplished respected academicians with energy and a plan to bring in millions more than their salaries.
awreslr2 11 months ago
@mistacramer One university president, a leader in research into Cancer, brought in hundreds of millions of dollars to both that university and two others located in the same major city. Her salary: half a million, well deserved. She even still manages research and publishes and teaches seminars.
awreslr2 11 months ago
My college president is on the list :x
alashabibti 11 months ago
If the college spends it's money in a way you feel is unwise than don't attend.
xbertocoaylax 11 months ago
Does a university president do 10 times the work of a doctor?
lordcheetah 11 months ago
@lordcheetah If they are responsible for helping create more doctors then yes.
flake452 11 months ago
@lordcheetah There are more doctors than there are people who can be hired as University Presidents. Thus presidents are valued more and can demand more pay.
xbertocoaylax 11 months ago
@xbertocoaylax Only if doctors and uprez produce the same value (which I'd argue they don't). Maybe if you compare the doctor in charge of a hospital to a uprez. Maybe
lordcheetah 11 months ago
@lordcheetah Value is subjective. If you value a service you will be more willing to pay more for it. Somebody values the service that these University Presidents give and they pay them accordingly.
xbertocoaylax 11 months ago
@xbertocoaylax I doubt the students paying for it value them so much, but they don't have the power say where their money goes.
lordcheetah 11 months ago
@lordcheetah They have the power to choose a different school. One that spends it's money in a wise manner.
xbertocoaylax 11 months ago
@xbertocoaylax Only if such a school exists
lordcheetah 11 months ago
really jr -.o? cut fountains? just....
iamLI3 11 months ago
Presidents don't do much work - they have their assistants and advisors (who usually make 100k - 300k each, and each president has anywhere between 3 - 10) who do all the work,. The job of the president is to get the credit for everyone else's work and give the blame of the negative effects of shit he signs that have negative effects on the university to other people.
DrQuijano 11 months ago
One of the most famous grads, Les Wexner, just gave OSU 100 million dollars. Don't forget that OSU has a medical and law school.
We now compete for students that 20 years ago, would never have thought about OSU. It isn't just about football anymore.
flowergirl1313 11 months ago
Ana is making me crazy. It is The Ohio State University. Always say "the". When I started at OSU in 95, Gee was president. After a few years, we lost him to Brown University. It was a big blow because President Gee was such a big part of OSU. He even had his own cookie (a bowtie).
He came back to us a few years later and everyone was pretty happy. Since the 90s, the calibre of student has improved a lot. And one of our most famous grads (founder of Victoria Secret) just gave OSU
flowergirl1313 11 months ago
@mictheorist Yeah, screw those several hundred people that won't be able to get an education because of one greedy asshole. It's not like this country is falling apart and full of the most ignorant people in the western world. Everything is perfect and the worship of money never collapses empires.
bamboo4tameshigiri 11 months ago
these salaries arent really that bad. this isn't berkeley community college's president earning a millioin. these are good schools
masterkayaki 11 months ago
if ur in it for the money, then ur doing it for the wrong reasons. college is being treated like a business and that's a big reason why us students have such a small voice.
theshiznojudge 11 months ago
Whether its fair or not is relative to the level of budget cuts in their respective schools
MrHav1k 11 months ago
a good example. University at Buffalo. it snows almost the entire school year, but they build fountains on campus, but the fountains is operational only during the summer months. when no one is there.
excalipoor 11 months ago
@excalipoor
Very interesting example.
mistacramer 11 months ago
If you look at the cost of running water pumps its entierly negligable.
I calulated it once when I was passing a fountain.
You say stop the fountain do you also want them to stop cutting the lawn its the same idea.
FinallyGotATubeName 11 months ago
before complaning about what the presidents make look at what the coaches of tthe big sports teams make
I say that but I support what ever they make it doesn't bother me
FinallyGotATubeName 11 months ago
All these are sports schools. I'm glad to see that these presidents are making money off the backs of students that aren't getting an education.
ooMONKEYoo 11 months ago
The college president that used to be at my college swindled a bunch of money and then fell off the face of the planet.
ooMONKEYoo 11 months ago
were not in the economic mess because BOA didnt pay their taxes but we are in a deeper hole.
irishmonkey640 11 months ago
My university doesn't have any fountains but there are a bunch of big modern art sculptures. I hope they were free because they are retaded and that is somewhere cuts can be made
jared091787 11 months ago
Ron Zook (Illinois football coach) made more than any of those people, yet he sucks at his job.
KarateKidX 11 months ago
Mother Fucker! I'm killing zombies all day, and I get paid didly-dick.
crackerz99 11 months ago
Oh man this pisses me off. I go to USF, and my tuition keep going up. They shift the burden of their created deficit into the poorest of the poor going there. Go ahead build another new building that's not going to be used. And give raises to everyone. It's ok those dumb kids think they're being benefited by going to college, HAHAHA.
stratelite 11 months ago
It doesn't matter what percentage of the budget it is. It's the principle of the thing. You can't demand that students take on even more debt while you're making hundreds of thousands from your "stressful" job.
00maharum00ma 11 months ago 2
Of course the university budget is bigger than one presidents pay: a university employs hundreds of PhDs as professors who rightfully get paid ~$200,000. Does he deserve to get paid as 10 PhD professors?
Spanky00Cheeks 11 months ago
you have to respect them to some degree for turning down money. even if it's the right thing to do, i don't think i could do it
MrBigNelli 11 months ago 3
Yeah...Um...How about...no? You don't deserve that.
AndrewMatt16 11 months ago
If The University is private then its no ones business how much anyone makes there. If they get state funding they should be paid for by results, the numbers dont shock me, they are doing an important job. The Highest Paid one made in a year what charlie sheen made in one episode of two and a half men.
flake452 11 months ago 20
@flake452
Comparing this to Charile Sheen's salary is dumb. That just shows that our priories as a society are focused more on rewarding jackass than educating people.
MrHav1k 11 months ago
@MrHav1k Yes it does show that, hence it not being dumb.
flake452 11 months ago
@flake452 Work is sold like a commodity. Would you buy something from a store where you only knew the price you had to pay and not what anyone else had to pay?
lordcheetah 11 months ago
@lordcheetah Work is a commodity, it is a commodity of time and commitment.
flake452 11 months ago
@flake452 I wasn't arguing that work wasn't a commodity...
lordcheetah 11 months ago
@flake452 It's interesting that so many of the highest paid ones are public.
gplex86 11 months ago
@flake452 If its public I agree it should be based on performance but come on 1.8 million that is over 4 times what the president of the US makes. If its private its no one business, but the college's.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 7 months ago
@Theimmortalwhitewolf Well, the president of the USA isn't doing a very good job is he so of course he shouldn't get more. (And the president does get paid more than these school presidents in corporate donations)
Hamhark98 5 months ago
5th is the new 1st.
Chaoitcme 11 months ago 2
No one on earth is worth a million dollars a year. No one. That's fucking insane! They should be capped at 250K and the rest should go towards the students for grants and scholarships. No wonder this country is fucked and getting worse.
bamboo4tameshigiri 11 months ago 56
@bamboo4tameshigiri That's absurd. 250k is a comfortable living but it's not worth the absolute hell you have to go through to work your ass off to get to that position.
Nemesis000000 11 months ago
@Nemesis000000 Bull. Shit. I'd do it for 150K and never have a complaint.
bamboo4tameshigiri 11 months ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri You don't seem to have a very good concept of what 150k can actually get you. If you have a family with multiple kids, for instance, that's like damn near poverty.
Nemesis000000 11 months ago
@Nemesis000000 Fuck. You.
bamboo4tameshigiri 11 months ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri Why the hostility?
Nemesis000000 11 months ago
@Nemesis000000 It's nothing a guillotine couldn't solve.
bamboo4tameshigiri 11 months ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri Some of us don't want to follow the retarded meme of "work until you're 67, get SS", we'd liek to work really hard early on and only later work if we feel like it. Go read some Paul Graham essays and start a startup to actually add to the wealth pool of humanity instead of just grabbing a 250k-sized chunk of the existing wealth.
DeJach 11 months ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri agreed, but your asking for some socialism/communism there, which is probably the thing this country hates the most.
kazekage321414 8 months ago
Love the title
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MCwelfare 11 months ago
& #2 biatch
narutopepillo 11 months ago
#1
narutopepillo 11 months ago