A. Bach didn't embrace equal temperament, he used a well tempered system. Hence, the *well tempered* clavier
B. The progression in western tuning was; Pythagorean (3-limit just intonation), 5-limit just intonation, meantone, modified meantone, well temperament, equal temperament.
C. Major minor tonality/modality and temperament are not related musical phenomenon.
Music during early baroque was about stripping down polyphony and making it simpler. The Florentine Cameratas thought polyphony was too confusing and rebuked it harshly. It was the Age of Reason (Rationalism), and music was considered as a form of rhetoric expression, so clarity of texts was important.
You started off at the beginning of the Baroque Era ("high intellect") but then skipped all the way to Bach.
you can actually get straight to the point. I manage to summarize the main points into the cluster map. but when i watched your video, it was really draggy and confusing. I dont have the intention of putting you in the bad light or anything like that. I love your performance. but i think theres really a room for improvement on THIS video. It becomes really dry when you go on talking and talking. it would actually be better if you performed a piece. that explains all. ya. just my POV though.
Here's a good example about what Andrew was explaining about two different melodies working together making one the harmony of the other, "Michael Giacchino - Landing party"
@ramiabadir :) Yes, I agree he was a pioneer. Problem was, his compositions mainly targeted strings. I wanted to use the history to help piano players play pieces from different era's more stylistically correct. :) I skipped many many composers, just to keep the time as short as I could while getting my points across. :) So in no means do I consider this a complete account of music history at all :) Take care!
i really appreciate the lesson, very nice. let me ask you something, how come you could upload that length. i try to upload 34 min but it doesnt accept? thanks
It's not Ba-roque as if it broke, it's Ba-roque as if it rocked! in your American vernacular.
Like African drum polyrhythms and call response, the cross-rhythmic, counterpunctal sound is very evocative and cathartic. That's why alot of people might not like 'classical' music but do like Bach.
Thanks for this, my man. And it's good to see it's quite popular. But I do agree you should have prepared extracts and demonstrate the sounds more.
Andrew records these videos in the early hours of the morning totally free of charge. His style is wacky, quirky, full of fun & show genuine love for his subject. He is informative and holds your attention on what can be a very dry subject. He makes the lessons interesting & easy for young & old to understand & follow. If you want boring elocution, go and pay for lessons. Thank you for your efforts Andrew, they are very much appreciated.
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I really admire your abilities. You are very very very very talented. May I humbly suggest you write a script before you record? To be blunt, and i really mean this in a constructive way, you must work on your speaking skills. Maybe take a public speaking class? I'll bet many of your audience is not 8 years old and very very very doesn't cut it for adjectives. I really want to hear more from you. I really really really realyy like your vids but...
Lypur, I can't believe it's lession #25 already. Whenever I start watching I just keep going and going. You're a great teacher. And your love for music is so strong that one can't help but follow along.
I've recently started trying to learn piano after many years playing guitar. These lessons are helping me understand music theory, piano as well as classical guitar (my second ambition after piano).
Thank you very much. You're the best. And keep ignoring the griefers and trolls.
Anyway, it's a kind gesture for you to put all of this together and I appreciate the difficulty in summarizing the history of music in such a short time.
I really appreciate what you're doing but I find so many of your comments are misleading. For instance, your comment concerning form (i.e. that the Baroque was very structured and the classical era less so). I don't think a single music theorist would agree with you. It is usually the lesser composers who follow any formal layout to the tee. The great composers (including those of the Baroque) used these forms as a basis and found their own way within them.
:) oh trust me, i'm well aware of that. Trying to sum up ALL of music history in such a short time is pretty difficult. I agree with you 100%. A good composer breaks the rules and innovates. My point though was to describe how to play each period. Also, I'm not an music history major, so I probably made some mistakes which I apologize for my flaws. :) I just did the best job I could do.
If you ever payed attention to Bach almost everything, specifically the fugues, are VERY structured by a common system and this pertains to how things must be resolved and how development and variation occurs. "(using) these forms as a basis and (finding) their own way within them" is another way of saying having their own creativity within the heavy structure or "rules" involved. His comments weren't misleading.
I think what he's saying is not so much that Baroque artists conformed rigidly to established norms but innovated within structural models. Classical and Baroque music have unmistakable, discernible patterns. So much so that it's very hard for a contemporary composer to emulate these styles (hence why so few do). The further you move towards the 20th century the more you see this "order" break down.
20th century composers also had chaos to work with. The 20th century, one of the most uncertain times the world had known, perhaps ever, resulted in a movement that aimed to replicate that chaos through music. Arnold Schonberg, Stravinsky, and Shostakovitch (I hope I didn't butcher these spellings too much) made their names by doing this.
Thanks for the lesson, not bad. But why not bring in some short musical examples? You're sitting by a nice piano there - flesh the thing out with some music. Sometimes I get the feeling you understand what you're trying to say but you mutter a bit and don't quite make it explicit enough for the student. EG. Parallel octaves? Explain - play some. I know you can't fit everything into 30 mins but if you decide to include something then make it clear. Anyway, good work. Keep it up.
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Jayhawkblue 4 weeks ago
A. Bach didn't embrace equal temperament, he used a well tempered system. Hence, the *well tempered* clavier
B. The progression in western tuning was; Pythagorean (3-limit just intonation), 5-limit just intonation, meantone, modified meantone, well temperament, equal temperament.
C. Major minor tonality/modality and temperament are not related musical phenomenon.
kratanuva725 1 month ago
I thought the singular voice or 1 voie was monophonic.
LeePrototype 2 months ago
Interesting! Music + HIstory :) Learned some nice facts there.
12TabulaRasa12 3 months ago
polyphony |pəˈlifənē|*** you,RE WELCOME. it's PolY PhoNy not POly phOny...
PharaohSPQR 4 months ago
Music during early baroque was about stripping down polyphony and making it simpler. The Florentine Cameratas thought polyphony was too confusing and rebuked it harshly. It was the Age of Reason (Rationalism), and music was considered as a form of rhetoric expression, so clarity of texts was important.
You started off at the beginning of the Baroque Era ("high intellect") but then skipped all the way to Bach.
LuvAnnie 5 months ago
"Bach is just..WOW...very very intense
valong100 6 months ago
HAHHHAAHHA YOU ARE HILARIOUS! I CRACKED UP SO MUCH WATCHIGN THIS VIDEO..
valong100 6 months ago
Actually, JSBach wasn't the most popular composer of Baroque. His son, CFEBach, was so much more popular than him.
PoesSoul7 8 months ago
Could you open the door :rotfl:
PoesSoul7 8 months ago
you can actually get straight to the point. I manage to summarize the main points into the cluster map. but when i watched your video, it was really draggy and confusing. I dont have the intention of putting you in the bad light or anything like that. I love your performance. but i think theres really a room for improvement on THIS video. It becomes really dry when you go on talking and talking. it would actually be better if you performed a piece. that explains all. ya. just my POV though.
merelollipop 1 year ago
Hello Andrew, i was just wondering... do you listen and/or like any modern band? (pop singers apart, of course)
lambsio 1 year ago
Thank you for the lesson!
MsDarkblade 1 year ago
Look up 'How Music Works BBC series'
ZeppelinFloydRoses 1 year ago
Great example and visual of counterpoint or FUGUE on Youtube:
Bach, Fugue #1, C Major (Well-Tempered Clavier Book I)
BansheeSiren 1 year ago
lol
I keep seeing the cat in the reflection of the piano.
twinguitarproduction 1 year ago 4
Here's a good example about what Andrew was explaining about two different melodies working together making one the harmony of the other, "Michael Giacchino - Landing party"
An1MuS 1 year ago
Thanks you... I dont speak Inglish very well.... but I follow you, and i learn so much! Thanks a lot!
Chilean in Germany.
alonsogomeze 1 year ago
:)) anyway that's was informative!
ramiabadir 1 year ago
I thank you for this video , but I guess you have missed Antonio Vivaldi as a pioneer of the Baroque era.
ramiabadir 1 year ago
@ramiabadir :) Yes, I agree he was a pioneer. Problem was, his compositions mainly targeted strings. I wanted to use the history to help piano players play pieces from different era's more stylistically correct. :) I skipped many many composers, just to keep the time as short as I could while getting my points across. :) So in no means do I consider this a complete account of music history at all :) Take care!
Lypur 1 year ago
Let's bear in mind that music itself did not start in the 1600's. Connect the dots between the piano and other cultures or folks have 1 side.
gigagroove 1 year ago
I can tell that these videos are as good for you as they are for us watching.
CarlosIsDown 1 year ago
I appreciate for your all videos. It was not boring and you make everything easier to understand so we could have a big picture of the Eras.
chingkaka520 1 year ago
Bach was more popular in his day for his skill as an organist, rather than his compositions. His music was considered old-fashioned.
The Baroque era ending with his death was only arbitrarily assigned well after his death when composers started appreciating his work.
Rheostatik 1 year ago
I just made one on the middle ages :)
Another good reason to study music history.. it is interesting!
MakingTheMetalBand 2 years ago
i really appreciate the lesson, very nice. let me ask you something, how come you could upload that length. i try to upload 34 min but it doesnt accept? thanks
aystercanon09 2 years ago
omg thank you so much for this. you really connected music history and everything for me. you're a great teacher.
bluenakednails 2 years ago 2
It's not Ba-roque as if it broke, it's Ba-roque as if it rocked! in your American vernacular.
Like African drum polyrhythms and call response, the cross-rhythmic, counterpunctal sound is very evocative and cathartic. That's why alot of people might not like 'classical' music but do like Bach.
Thanks for this, my man. And it's good to see it's quite popular. But I do agree you should have prepared extracts and demonstrate the sounds more.
sferemonk 2 years ago
thanx! i actually liked the way you presented the information,casual, very interesting
rebecamusic15 2 years ago
Andrew records these videos in the early hours of the morning totally free of charge. His style is wacky, quirky, full of fun & show genuine love for his subject. He is informative and holds your attention on what can be a very dry subject. He makes the lessons interesting & easy for young & old to understand & follow. If you want boring elocution, go and pay for lessons. Thank you for your efforts Andrew, they are very much appreciated.
gjjackson1968 2 years ago 19
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rwe1245 2 years ago
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I really admire your abilities. You are very very very very talented. May I humbly suggest you write a script before you record? To be blunt, and i really mean this in a constructive way, you must work on your speaking skills. Maybe take a public speaking class? I'll bet many of your audience is not 8 years old and very very very doesn't cut it for adjectives. I really want to hear more from you. I really really really realyy like your vids but...
trapperbt 2 years ago
i agree. lots of good info, but its a little bit too informal, and unorganized
lhbbstar34 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more. There is no excuse to be so inarticulate.
Why are you getting so many downthumbs?
saladshootavvv 2 years ago
entertaining personality!! thanks for the humor.
elsadorian 2 years ago 4
Nice video, but a lot of factual mistakes. (especially about Bach)
gr0mithtimon 2 years ago
you made me laugh man, thats a hard task to achieve on such a subject.
cheers dude
lsdvine 2 years ago 4
thanks man you made this history stuff easy to string together
riam76 2 years ago 2
5 stars. This is probably the best video. So inspirational. They are my new heroes hehe.
GetDamage 2 years ago 4
Lypur, I can't believe it's lession #25 already. Whenever I start watching I just keep going and going. You're a great teacher. And your love for music is so strong that one can't help but follow along.
I've recently started trying to learn piano after many years playing guitar. These lessons are helping me understand music theory, piano as well as classical guitar (my second ambition after piano).
Thank you very much. You're the best. And keep ignoring the griefers and trolls.
mwiller2 2 years ago 4
I like classical Music,and since i know classical music from anime i try to learn more and get into it.and now im going to promote it.
KevinR3i 2 years ago
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youd be a funnier dude if you didnt laugh at your own jokes
kingrichievalz 2 years ago
Anyway, it's a kind gesture for you to put all of this together and I appreciate the difficulty in summarizing the history of music in such a short time.
Drewsical 2 years ago
I really appreciate what you're doing but I find so many of your comments are misleading. For instance, your comment concerning form (i.e. that the Baroque was very structured and the classical era less so). I don't think a single music theorist would agree with you. It is usually the lesser composers who follow any formal layout to the tee. The great composers (including those of the Baroque) used these forms as a basis and found their own way within them.
Drewsical 2 years ago 2
:) oh trust me, i'm well aware of that. Trying to sum up ALL of music history in such a short time is pretty difficult. I agree with you 100%. A good composer breaks the rules and innovates. My point though was to describe how to play each period. Also, I'm not an music history major, so I probably made some mistakes which I apologize for my flaws. :) I just did the best job I could do.
Lypur 2 years ago
If you ever payed attention to Bach almost everything, specifically the fugues, are VERY structured by a common system and this pertains to how things must be resolved and how development and variation occurs. "(using) these forms as a basis and (finding) their own way within them" is another way of saying having their own creativity within the heavy structure or "rules" involved. His comments weren't misleading.
parquar 2 years ago
@Drewsical
I think what he's saying is not so much that Baroque artists conformed rigidly to established norms but innovated within structural models. Classical and Baroque music have unmistakable, discernible patterns. So much so that it's very hard for a contemporary composer to emulate these styles (hence why so few do). The further you move towards the 20th century the more you see this "order" break down.
LexingtonWells 1 year ago
@LexingtonWells Any kind of style is easy to emulate if you know how. People don't do it because it's already been done.
kratanuva725 1 month ago
20th century composers also had chaos to work with. The 20th century, one of the most uncertain times the world had known, perhaps ever, resulted in a movement that aimed to replicate that chaos through music. Arnold Schonberg, Stravinsky, and Shostakovitch (I hope I didn't butcher these spellings too much) made their names by doing this.
LexingtonWells 1 year ago
Thank You very much for best lesson, Dear Sir.
arrieweb 2 years ago
you're very welcome!
Lypur 2 years ago
I'm amazed you can talk for so long without constantly saying "um..." or messing up a lot...
siredward800 2 years ago 2
whoa, that half hour flew away really fast, so intersting =)
rotsenon 2 years ago
did you play mozarts piano concerto 20 Rondo during 14:39???
wankmaster 2 years ago
interesting, thanks
malissa456 2 years ago
Nice - thank you.
sambarrister 3 years ago
Wow that was a cool lesson. I wish you could do a video on each of the composers you talk about or for each era.
I think I'm going to go read some biographies of these crazy guys.
Odelle5 3 years ago
^=This is my fav lesson
Great job
Jayhawkblue 3 years ago
Thanks for the lesson, not bad. But why not bring in some short musical examples? You're sitting by a nice piano there - flesh the thing out with some music. Sometimes I get the feeling you understand what you're trying to say but you mutter a bit and don't quite make it explicit enough for the student. EG. Parallel octaves? Explain - play some. I know you can't fit everything into 30 mins but if you decide to include something then make it clear. Anyway, good work. Keep it up.
SwiftUK 3 years ago 5
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No rubato in Baroque???
Are you nuts? Who told you that? Were they living then?
Nonsense. Sure, you don't use a Romantic rubato or vibrato...but none except at the end?
Nope, wrong. The ONLY rule is to make it sound beautiful and expressive and music with no rubato is dead.
Rexicano 3 years ago
great =)
thomandy 3 years ago 2
Cool^_^Thanks that was Interesting
sweetpianogirl360 3 years ago 7
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cool frist viwer
aclyde15greenc 3 years ago