Guy trying to explain how dinosaurs were on Noah's Arc

[InternetDarkLord]

"Empire of the Dinosaurs" calculates 500,000 species of dinosaurs existed. On a 450 foot boat! Good luck!

[looncraz]

These people should be put in prison/fined for teaching known false-hoods to the youth.

[490er]

dinosars were only the size of a small dog???

yea all their bones just got a lot bigger in the past thousand years using magic right???

lol

[kailabreece]

I'd like to see his credentials. Also, please get better audio next time.

[lbrex78]

cant hear too bad, sounds like it would have been a good laugh.

[flyingscience]

Everyone is making fun of faithfull for shame shame shame . Dr. Who helped out Noah . He moved the ark around to diffrent locations to pick up the animals ! Dr. Who speed up the time so it didnt take 60 years to load /unload all the animals . Dr. Who made the ark like a Tardis bigger on the inside to fit them all in . Dr. Who inserted extra genetic material so the animals would'nt die from genetic etinction from inbreeding over generations . . Praise the time lord!

[Pacisdiligo]

About 15 yrs ago that would have been me teaching that class! It took a lot of humility and open-minded research to discover I'd been fed a lot of fertilizer by groups like AIG and the ICR. It is possible to be a person of deep Christian faith and acknowledge the fact of evolution.

[davidls11]

It actually makes me angry that people believe such nonsense.

[haty24]

Goddamn. Never underestimate the power of stupid people n large groups (ie Religion)

[Highflyer2250]

That guys is a fucking idiot.. There is no way primitive man could have put every single living creature on a fucking boat and still have room to feed them all. What a desperately absurd attempt to explain life.

[bareteeth]

your math must be awful

[winterstellar]

Haha, it's totally incredible how so many christtards in America actually take fairy-tales like "The Flood" or "Adam & Eve" seriously/literally. I'm scandinavian and in Scandinavia there are very few christians,but the ones we do have accept scientific facts like evolution, the age of our planet and that there has never been any global flood. But I guess the american christians are just even dumber and more ignorant than our christians and that they get fed with a lot more b.s from their priests

[flyingscience]

@winterstellar not priests , the Catholic chuch is not literal fundamentalists .You mean ministers .

[tctheunbeliever]

I don't want 2 ber8 any1, but I h8 2 .5 2 read this rebus 4m of typing. How asi9.

[tctheunbeliever]

They fumigated for trilobites before the rain started, and they ate the big dinos when food got scarce.

[day7creation]

Noah took baby dinosaurs because they were smaller and ate less, possibly for some he just took eggs. The word dinosaur wasn't used until 1841, before that they were called "dragons" and the word dragon is used in the KJV bible many times. We also find thousands of rock sculptures of dinosaurs all over the world, some show people killing dinosaurs.-----------("He moveth his tail like a cedar" job 40:15 17).

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[jacksawild]

@day7creation I thumbed down your comment because you seem to be an idiot. Unless you were being sarcastic, then you're hilarious. Actually, you're hilarious either way but you still get a thumbs-down. How is it that Noah was righteous if he had no religion to guide him?

[day7creation]

@jacksawild The whole story of Noah an the ark is religious it comes from the King James Bible and in it Noah was a Christian who trusted god enough to build a giant ark just because god told him to build it. Seems like your the idiot to me.

[jacksawild]

@day7creation You do realise that the King James bible was written in 1611, dont you? It comes from the Torah which is the writings of earlier oral traditions. Ok.. I'm an atheist but let me educate you about your own religion. Noah was a patriarch, he came before Moses and Abraham which means he predates Judaism. The Torah says that God says that Noah was righteous. He could have had no religion because religion did not yet exist, according to the Torah. I don't think I'm the idiot here.

[jermainekg6]

@jacksawild Noah was righeous found righteous because he believe in God, but his righteousness didnt come from himself it came from God's shed blood. even though Noah didnt have the bible he still trusted in God who already had the Plan before creation. All who had faith & died b4 Jesus came were righeous from the beginning because God declared hes death&resurection from b4 the beginning. So b4 the flood people had faith, torah came set a law for many reasons- not enough room to go in2 them

[momentofsciencetx]

Damn I cant hear it.

[PaulBarte]

Yabba dabba doo!

[CanadiaNecro1]

I learned about this in middle school and hightschool. These people actually believe this crap! They also think that all the dinosaurs were plant eaters(even the meat eating ones), that they lived at the same time as humans, and that there were giant humans walking around at the time.

[gregrutz]

God made the dinosuars so Noah could save them from the flood.

[dslmc]

horrible audio

[huntmatuk]

Well if it is only typo's I am being accused of, then it doesn't seem all that bad. I do find it rather amusing when people go to such lengths to try and prove the existance of the sky fairy. I forget who said it, but the quote, "Tell me your proof which shows there are no such things as elves and fairys and I will use the same argument with your god." Says it all really.

[huntmatuk]

Arc??? Would you mean Ark by any chance. It seems you language has evolved...

[KingBohica]

"It seems you language" You mean "YOUR language"...? Hmmm, guess we all make spelling mistakes. Let he with no typo cast the 1st comment I suppose

[sarsekim]

haha

[Eric3575]

How did koalas get from Ararat to Australia, polar bears to the Arctic, etc., when the kinds of environment they require to live doesn't exist between the two points. How did so many unique species get to remote islands?

[Johnnymathews1]

Great thesis! Youve shown that you know how to report archived athiest argument matter. Jesus loves you, learn to talk to him, and you can accomplish something with that powerfull brain of yours.

[Eric3575]

Oh please, don't give me this crap about "... learn to talk to him, and you can accomplish something with that powerful brain...". I'm a former Christian. I would hear ppl around me say "oh god talked 2 me" .When I went to church, i would pray to god every single time for him just to talk to me...Just to say hello or something. I just wanted to hear him speak to me so i would know i was truly blessed. For six years i'v been doing this..every time nothing happened, I would just make up an excuse

[Eric3575]

Ice cores from Greenland have been dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers.a worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't such evidence show up?

[Eric3575]

Food spoilage is a major concern on long voyages; it was especially thus before the inventions of canning and refrigeration. The large quantities of food aboard would have invited infestations of any of hundreds of stored product pests (especially since all of those pests would have been aboard), and the humidity one would expect aboard the Ark would have provided an ideal environment for molds. How did Noah keep pests from consuming most of the food?

[Eric3575]

many animals require special diets.Koalas 4 example require eucalyptus leaves, and silkworms eat nothing but mulberry leave.For thousands of plant species, there is at least 1 animal that eats only that 1 kind of plant.how did Noah gather all those plants aboard,and where did he put them?Other animals are strict carnivores,and some of those specialize on certain kinds of foods,such as small mammals,insects,fish,or aquatic invertebrate.How did Noah determine and provide 4 all those special diets?

[Eric3575]

There is a reason why Gila monsters,yaks,and quetzals don't all live together in a temperate climate.They can't survive there, at least not for long without special care. Organisms have preferred environments outside of which they are at a deadly disadvantage.most extinctions are caused by destroying the organisms' preferred environments.the creationists who propose all the species living together in a uniform climate are effectively proposing the destruction of all environments but one.

[Eric3575]

Some creationists suggest that the animals need not have traveled far to reach the Ark; a moderate climate could have made it possible for all of them to live nearby all along. However, this proposal makes matters even worse. The last point above would have applied not only to island species, but to almost all species. Competition between species would have driven most of them to extinction.

[Eric3575]

Wood is not the best material for shipbuilding It is not enough that a ship be built to hold together, it must also be sturdy enough that the changing stresses don't open gaps in its hull.Wood is simply not strong enough to prevent separation between the joints, especially in the heavy seas that the Ark would have encountered.The longest wooden ships in modern seas are about 300',and these require reinforcing with iron straps and leak so badly they must be constantly pumped.The ark was 450' long

[Eric3575]

Shells on mountains are easily explained by uplift of the land. Although this process is slow, it is observed happening today, and it accounts not only for the seashells on mountains but also for the other geological and paleontological features of those mountains. The sea once did cover the areas where the fossils are found, but they were not mountains at the time; they were shallow seas.

[Johnnymathews1]

awesome, I didn't know anyone had observed a mountain emerge from an extinct sea bed...or are you speaking of someone seeing a "snipet" of a proposed process that takes billions of years? Doesnt time have to be a controlled element to have a sucesfull (concret) test? Naturalize away my friend......I know you want to....

[Eric3575]

It takes approximately fifteen million years to uplift an entire mountain range. However, it takes roughly one hundred million years to erode a mountain range away.

[homeostasis4me]

Are you fucking KIDDING ME? No one saw the mountatins rise, so the scientific community is wrong? Plate tectonics does not cause mountains to rise? HUH? Nice job destroying your own legitimacy there, Ace.

[Eric3575]

LOL

[Johnnymathews1]

your language shows your professionalism....."ace": much better than a joker, ill take it as a compliment.

[Johnnymathews1]

for you two:

Homeostasisdudes reinterpretation of my post translated: (sarcastic questions) (Sarcasm) (swearing etc..) You (Johnny) said the scientific community is fallible because no one has seen mountains rise [I did? Did I just attack sciences authority or Darwinian theory by questioning a plate tectonic theory? Should I avoid the fact that its hypothetical and pretend its empirical?]

[Johnnymathews1]

contd:

you (Johnny) have destroyed your legality because you have indirectly attacked a scientific [or do you mean naturalistic] theory towards plate tectonics and mountains. Man, you twist what people say and hide conjecture well within your satire, you must have had much practice. I guess you cant help but do this whenever someone doesnt accept your beliefs.

[moonlightbatemon]

YES, you directly questioned the validity of plate techtonic theory.What you thought that would do to prop your argument against Darwin,s theory, I have no idea....and I correctly stated you destroy your own LEGITIMACY, not LEGALITY....lol...

[homeostasis4me]

GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.

1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.

GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.

GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.

GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings.

JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.

[Johnnymathews1]

do you understand the concept of context? Or do you believe that patchwork scripture twisting is a ligitamate approach to literary analysis?

[Johnnymathews1]

Your atheist support groups have selectively stockpiled random verses of scripture. Im sure you smile when you think about the idea of contradiction.But what about the concept of "paradox"?

I Corintians 1:21 : For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe."

swallow you knowledge based pride and then you might experience God like I do.

[Johnnymathews1]

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

[Eric3575]

Around that time there was about 1.8millions species of animal. With the amount of time Noah had, he would need the animals to get in the ark in a rate of 20animals/sec. and do you really think the animals wouldn't of eaten each other? and after they were "dropped off" in specific locations where the animals are ONLY found, what did the carnivores eat? if they eat another animal, that animal would of been extinct. It's stupid when people try to defend shit like this.

[salbrismind]

OBVIOUSLY God helped :P

[Eric3575]

Then why make a flood in the first place when people know it's impossible to happen. Since "It" is sooooo powerful, "it" could of just killed everything instently with out a flood. Why tell fair tails to people, when knowing people won't believe it, when god can just do it the easy way and make it more logical?

[Johnnymathews1]

then, he would have been doing it with YOUR approach, and not the way that he intended to do it. Why did atheist Phillip Pullman write the Golden compass with naturalistic overtones? See, I can ask these questions too, but what does it prove? It only brings to argument matters of intent and method, not existence. You can accept the concept of species transition, something far from our "visible" reality, but Christian variances are just "fairy tails?" I see some abstract philosophy in you.

[Eric3575]

what?? the golden compass is just a movie plus i haven't seen it so yeah... it looks boring too =/

im not sure what ur trying to say but okay....0_0

[Johnnymathews1]

Do you believe the "last word" shows some sign of unconfrontable intelligence, or time proven establishment within your own credibility?

[Eric3575]

?...what r u talking about?

[Johnnymathews1]

your approach to discussion.

[Johnnymathews1]

If all you can "pull" from the comment was: golden compass was a movie...you have missed the point all together my friend.

[moonlightbatemon]

GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.

GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).

GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

INFALLIBLE, INDEED......

[Johnnymathews1]

I corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

[homeostasis4me]

GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.

JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.

LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.

JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).

1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).

RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.

I'm getting confused here....

[Johnnymathews1]

I Corinthians 1:27 but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong,

[t0nyroque]

Places like the ICR promote ignorance

[ooglebydoogleby]

hmhmfhmhmf....hahahahahaha....­lol......hahahaha...

[cbproducktions]

I can't hear what this man is saying very well, but I do believe that Noah would be smart enough to bring baby animals (including dinosaurs) onto the ark, rather huge completely grown adult animals.

[searat666]

And who cared for these hundreds of thousands of baby animals? I mean to say, what did they eat, where did they shit/piss, they had to have physical exercise to avoid atrophy so where'd they run/walk...and what about the flying dinosaurs, couldn't they just fly up above the flood? And the swimming dinosaurs? What about the animals that predate the dinosaurs? Because you know, dinosaurs were NOT the first living creatures...(according to the fossil record , not the fairy tale)

[Johnnymathews1]

Why have "water dwelling" fossils been recovered atop every major mountain range on every continent?

[moonlightbatemon]

Because over the past 650 MILLION years plate techtonics has raised those fossil beds to the sky, dickweed.

[Johnnymathews1]

Fact: sea fossils on mountains.

Theory: Plate Techtonics over billions of years caused fossils to rise from lower levels of extinct sea bed. Reinforced by conceptual theorization.

God: There was a great flood, layers of sediment rapidly layered over the landscape trapping and ultimately fosilizing water animals atop the mountains.

Choice: One can choose to guess and theorize naturalistically ABOUT empircal evidence or one can choose to hear God and what He says about empirical evidence.

[homeostasis4me]

GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.

GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.

NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.

GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.

NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.

Confused yet?

[homeostasis4me]

Didn't know fossils were water dwelling.....I thought they were already dead.

[Johnnymathews1]

you didn't know some fossils were water dwelling? Did you think they were only land dwelling? Surely you knew that there was life in the seas too? Are you having trouble understaniding: Fossils were once water and land dwelling. The term fossil means an animal or plant (both are alive before fossilization) that has been fossilized. So.... do you wish to continue "red-herring" the subject matter with grammatical-tense jargon, or do you wish to discuss? :)

[homeostasis4me]

johnnymatthews, you are so stupid you can't even tell when someone is being sarcastic at your expense......fossils, you see, dwell NO WHERE- they're all....DEAD. Idiot. Bring the debate, I'll be waiting with my evidence AND quotes from your "infallible" book.....

[Johnnymathews1]

Speaking with you about anything is pointless. Your agenda is to be pissed off at anyone who doesn't follow your "infallible" yet OBVIOUSLY THEORETICAL concepts pulled from Darwinian speculation. You swear, poorly voice sarcasm, and avoid issues with circular arguments. So learn to debate professionally, or go brainwash some nieve high schooler who will listen to your nonsense.

[moonlightbatemon]

"Circular arguments", huh? Like how you tried to destroy evolutionary theory by denying plate techtonics raised the mountains? You mean like that?Name ONE ISSUE I have avoided. ONE.

[Johnnymathews1]

Well why didn't you catch on to a "stupid" persons awareness. I guess you didn't catch this part: "So.... do you wish to continue "red-herring" the subject matter with grammatical-tense jargon, or do you wish to discuss?" Your school yard sarcasm speaks volumes to everyone...volumes....it helps us all learn more about you.

[Johnnymathews1]

so the double standard emerges. A tree of life emerged from simple organisms, chain reacting all species on the earth (evolution). But naturalists cannot accept that Noah could have brought selected "kinds" on the ark. After being released they adapted and produced a varying diversity from their "Kind." This would cut down on the number of animals in the ark significantly. It's a theory with cause and effect taken into account, but not naturalistic overtones. Are you the theory police?

[omiteru]

Joan of Arc? These people are trying to make the facts fit their beliefs, and pretend it is science.

It is great that science actually uses the facts to define all scientific theory.

[cbproducktions]

You got it backwards my friend.

What scientific fact supports the Big Bang Theory? The law of Conservation of Energy? Because that disproves the Big Bang. Actually, that shows evidence for the contrary, a Creator.

What scientific evidence supports macroevolution? The fossil record? Because that shows that macroevolution doesn't happen and never has. Actually, the fossil record is proof of a global flood.

[omiteru]

A global flood? When you have obtain a grasp on philosophy then try to study some math. Where these silly arguments fail is always at the first stage.

There is zero evidence of a global flood. There is no mention of one in history, any other religious doctrine, or through observation.

[latuman]

And how does the law of conservation of energy disprove the big bang?

Hilarity will ensue.

Also, wont even touch the flood myth...

[searat666]

All of religion's sciences have been in response to scientific discoveries. They present no new scientific evidence of their own, simply mold real science to fit their agenda. Before it was discovered the earth was round, it was God that made the rose the sun. Now that we have science, God's role has dwindled down to "intelligent design", which is just a bunch of rhetoric nonsense. The reason they call it a theory, is because it isn't a fact just yet, but it has more merit than creationism

[cbproducktions]

Christiananswers*net/q-eden/ed­n-t003*html

Geocities*com/worldview_3/scie­nce*html

Eternal-productions*org/101sci­ence*html

TheWayTheTruth*com

Freehovind*com/watch

[searat666]

Do you know what they called the time period when the church was in power, and all that was taught was what the church wanted to teach? Remember? Yeah, the "Dark Ages". Do you wanna know why it was called the "Dark Ages?" Because people were painfully ignorant and fear driven, they were in the "dark". The "Age of Reason" is when the church is taken out of power, and intelligence was brought back to the community. The church WANTS you ignorant, and rhetoric like this is a perfect example.

[cbproducktions]

What does that have to do with anything?

Besides, that was the Catholic church, which is very corrupt and teach things contrary to the Bible.

Go scope those links I sent you so you can learn some science that doesn't contradict itself.

[searat666]

I watched those videos, and in more than one instance, they threatened public education; implying that education under their belief structure is the only right education. Catholicism out dates Christianity, being that Christianity branched off of Catholicism and spun their own beliefs out of it. Be careful what you listen to, who you believe, and never believe anyone with an agenda.

[cbproducktions]

They dont threaten pub ed. Only 1 link mentions pub ed & it speaks of how corrupt it is with teaching bad science.

Look at the links.

I dont worry about denominations within a general belief. I follow Jesus & the teachings in the Bible. Catholicism, amongst other denominations, carry beliefs that contradict the Bible & I don't respect it at all. They are making their own "God" & say that they worship God. I worship the God of the Bible, they worship their own made up "God" based off of God.

[searat666]

Do you even know what sciences are being taught, or how the process of deciding what is taught works? The reason they wont teach the Bible in school is because this isn't a Fascist country, well at least, it's not supposed to be; even though we're headed that way. That's fine, you're welcome to believe in what ever you want, but try to remember, so does everyone else. The minute you teach the Bible in school, you remove that right from people and we head back into the "Dark Ages"

[cbproducktions]

Oh, of course you and I are welcome to believe whatever we want, just like everyone else. The problem is most people don't know why they believe what they do.

Pub ed should abandon teaching religion altogether. Kids are brainwashed from day in to day out of school that Evolution is flawless, has supporting evidence, & is basically fact when it is the complete opposite. Evolution & the Big Bang is shoved in their heads their entire lives.

And yes, we are on a road to fascism.

[searat666]

So science shouldn't be taught at all? I disagree. The reason evolution is being taught is because it is the most sound theory we have so far. Just like it was taught that the world was flat, until it was proven it wasnt. Science is able to change with education and new discoveries. The problem with religion is its archaic and unwilling to accept anything beyond it's limited and flawed dogma. It offers no intellectual or realistic explanations of the world and inhibits progress of the mind

[cbproducktions]

Yes, I believe the entire Bible is fact.

If I kept it to myself I would be a very cruel person. Jesus saved me from eternal misery in Hell & has given me eternal salvation. If I didn't share that with anyone that would be so terrible it's beyond words. It would also be going against the teachings of Jesus, He wants us to tell as many people as possible because He doesn't want anyone going to Hell because He loves us.

Continued...

[searat666]

That's fine for you. You're right, religion should not be taught in public schools. Religion should be kept on an individual basis. If you want people to believe in your dogma, then show them with love and respect, not with force or eliminating the alternatives.  Not saying you, but in general, religious people are not confident in their own faith, which is why they push it so hard on others. If they get someone else to conform, they are in turn validated.

[manchester26m]

Do you tell people they go to hell if they dont accept Jesus as their lord and savior?

[Johnnymathews1]

Have we forgoten the fine line between EMPERICAL and ABSTRACT? it's like the difference between saying: "this glass of water is fluid and tastes nice" and "this water in the glass came from the Andes mountains, flowed to the sea, evaporated into a cloud formation, and fell in the east coast tributaries, from there it washed to a collection point for drinking water. After several years, it was circulated to our pipe line, and now billions of years later, we are enjoying it's coolness."

[searat666]

So therefor you must take every word out of the Bible as fact. Otherwise, why believe in any of it. I mean to say, why would they make some of the stuff up and some of it true...and if that is the case, then you must be a genius to be able to decipher the fact from the fiction. It's okay to believe in a God, or the bible, but when people start using it as a catalysis for controlling the lives of other people it becomes evil. Keep it personal, keep it yours, let all else alone

[cbproducktions]

I said religion in pub ed shouldn't be taught because public schools are filled with fallacies, lies, and one-sided stories. Not to mention Evolution & the Big Bang are exceedingly scientifically flawed. I can tell you know very little about origins in science. You will see Evolution & the Big Bang falsified if you would actually look at the links I sent you. Or at the very least look at these videos...

youtube(dot)com/watch?v=6qsK7w­d_84k

TheWayTheTruth(dot)com

[searat666]

Just because a doctor says it, doesn't make it so. I've watched those videos, and they were interesting, but severely one sided. I never said any about Evolution or the Big bang theory, I acknowledge the fact that those are theories, which is why they're called...theories. They are, in fact, the best theory we have. If we rely on the Bible to guide us, we will fall back into the dark ages and we will be entirely ruled by fear.

[cbproducktions]

The Bible isn't about installing fear into people. It is about love. It is all about love. Jesus died for us because He loves us. He wants His followers to tell other about Him in love because He loves them as well.

You are right, if a doctor says something it doesn't necessarily make it true. But this doctor backs up his statements with irrefutable evidence. He falsifies Evolution easily and if you actually did watch them you wouldn't be telling me that Evolution is the best theory.

[Camikaze999]

So Burning in hell is about love? Religious people make me sick.

[cbproducktions]

Jesus dying a gruesome death so that we wouldn't have to get what we deserve and go to Hell is all love. Hell is separation from God. We all deserve the punishment because we we are all criminals under His Law. But Jesus paid our fine. But if you deny that paid fine you will be guilty because you have broken His Law and you will receive the punishment.

Watch this video...

youtube*com/watch?v=HtXvY4XAfd­g

[Camikaze999]

But God created hell, and according to your logic all unborn children and babies who die go directly to hell

[cbproducktions]

Unborn children and babies haven't sinned, therefore the are innocent and go to Heaven.

[Camikaze999]

Where does it say they are innocent and go to heaven? Never seen a verse anyone is innocent, and where's he cut off age for innocence? 1...2...5...10...11..?

[cbproducktions]

One is innocent until they break the Law. Whether you think it is objective or subjective we all know the difference between right and wrong. When one willingly does something wrong (sins) they are breaking off their relationship with God. If they die without the restoration of that relationship through Jesus, they will spend eternity without God.

[Camikaze999]

Not everyone knows the difference. People can be mentally handicapped and not everyone learns morals the same way.

. According to your logic, a two year old who steals a cookie will be thrown in a fiery pit for all eternity. Since he broke the "Law". Sounds sick.

[Johnnymathews1]

well, the scriptures that you greatly disaprove of, speak of children coming of age (regarding responsibility). I'd love to talk with you about it, but it's pointless if you just slander any perspective other than your own. I believe in christ, and I have questions too, I could make up a hundred regarding naturalism right now. But I don't use questions as a tool to slander, only as a means to better understand things. I see that you are passionate about what you believe, I can respect that.

[Camikaze999]

well children can never be fully responsible..they are children. The human brain isn't even fully developed until ages 24-26. Plus if kids are brainwashed like Hitler's Youth, how can you hold someone brainwashed accountable.

[homeostasis4me]

But, cb, 4 billion years ago your "loving God" acknowledged that he would create my soul and the decisions I would make in my instantaneous lifetime would ultimately send me to an unfathomable suffering for an incomprehensible eternity; how EXACTLY is it that I have the ability to make choices different than what your omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent God saw BEFORE I even existed? HELLO? AN ANSWER, please. Just ONE. Do you LOVE your children?

[homeostasis4me]

cb- do you have children? Do you LOVE THEM? Is there anything that your child could do to cause you to pour a pot of scalding water on him or her? ANYTHING? Good luck with your "love" argument, Ace. I'll stick with MY understanding of what love is, the love I feel when I hold my son, when I hug my mother. My understanding of love, to YOU, is somehow not REALLY what love is, huh? God is the only one who knows what TRUE LOVE IS, right? Good luck with that.

[Johnnymathews1]

I'll pray for you....you don't have to meet an end birthed out of this resentment and confusion. :)

[homeostasis4me]

You're the one that is confused, Ace. If you aren't, you have about as much common sense as....well.....you know. That "infallible" book you love so much is a fairy tale. Here's a video!

[Johnnymathews1]

How has your theory advocacy been coming along? Has it brought you much peace of mind or heart lately? (or is "heart" just more religious nonsense?) I can hear from God, without the bible, and i do. Do you hear from the universe, or the collaborative ora of humanity's philosophy? Im sure to expect a "prove" "it" from your naturalistic perspective, but my agenda isn't like yours. Why would anyone deny a memorable" EXPERIENCE " for speculative "evidence "of conceptual atheist argument?

[moonlightbatemon]

What?!?! What the hell are you talking about?!?! Do I hear from the universe? "Theory advocacy"? I'm at peace and happy, thanks- sorry to disappoint you in that reguards....you really are talking gibberish, you know...leave me the fuck alone, troll.

[Johnnymathews1]

"I'm at peace and happy, thanks- sorry to disappoint you in that reguards....you really are talking gibberish, you know...leave me the fuck alone, troll. "

moonlightbatemon translation: I'm pissed off at the world, mostly the church because someone or something offended me within the system. In the mean time, I'll use slander, satire,atheism and sarcasm to avoid the issues and project intimidation. why use critical thinking when something is unclear at first, curse it and call it jargon!

[homeostasis4me]

No, asshole, actually what happened was YOU commented ME and accused me of all sorts of shit....hit me from BEHIND, like a coward. You want to debate? Let's do it, RIGHT HERE at this very heavily travelled video....moonlight is my sock account, idiot. Get your shit in order, first comment is on you. Your ass is grass.....

[homeostasis4me]

Jesus died a gruesome death, right? What's the big deal, EXACTLY? He had firsthand knowledge of God.He did not have the faith of a mustard seed, friend- he KNEW for a fact. He knew his eternal fate. Big deal- he suffered on the cross. Every human being on this planet, put into that position, would do exactly the same thing, because we would not have to rely on faith, but would have firsthand KNOWLEDGE. What's the big deal? Would you pour boiling oil on your child, friend? WHY NOT?

[Johnnymathews1]

atheists are quick to stereotype all religion, all denominations of christianity as one false entity. The only philosiphy they exclude from the "condemned" is their own....naturalism. There a "catholic-esc" denomination in themselves.

[Johnnymathews1]

Richard dawkins doesnt push a naturalistic agenda?

[miniski5]

anything you can't watch happen is a theory, regardless EVEN IF IT HAS BEEN PROVEN! we have seen bugs evolve over ten years to change with blackening trees, and then evolve back after some pollution was cleared up. we have had to adapt medicine because of evolving viruses. and yet the theory of evolution is still a theory. it is factual and proven, its just not a law because you can't sit outside your house and watch a monkey evolve. i know, i know, stupid rule.

[searat666]

well yeah, there's just more evidence to support the theory of evolution than a book concocted by man. So this is the ONLY truth: NO ONE knows where we came from, or how life began. But the scientific study of the world around us not only teaches us more about who we are, but where we came from and where we can go. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF CREATIONISM. Just a book, which has been shown to be an adaptation of a conglomerate of other other faiths from that time. It has no scientific merit.

[Johnnymathews1]

well, thats not what God personally told me, He said: "John, I created Everything. I love everyone...it'd be great if they listened to me."

[laidt0rest]

cant hear...put in windows movie maker and put op vol and reupload

[Neanderthalcousin]

Weren't the dinasours whiped out by the flood? I forget, but then again that's because I make a point of forgetting fucking bullshit.

[netwolf]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! Great post! I love how he said at the very beginning "you really want this part on film eh?" Translation "shit I am about to get owned for being a jackass".

[KingBohica]

Lol, yeah that guy is a jackass and ICR is ridiculous!