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  • Allahu akbar

  • Enough, already, ele12957!!!!!

  • Praise God! Thank you, Jay.

  • I will not be commenting on ele12957's spurious accusations because it incites in him further sedition against a holy God for whom has no fear. Our mighty Defender in Heaven will reveal the truth about this man in due time (Daniel 2:22).

  • However, ele12957's brazen fearlessness and contempt for the truth before a just and holy God makes me fear greatly for him. Please pray for the Lord's mercy upon him.

    "Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive. The venom of asps is under their lips. Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness. Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes." (Romans 3:13-18)

  • Blogrich55 has confirmed that ele12957 is now officially blocked and will be unable to make any further comments on his channel due to his continuous attacks on those in the holy family of Jesus Christ.

  • Dude, you just prove your sinful, fleshly, unregenerate self, with your comments. You are a minister? A minister of Satan, maybe, but not Christ. You are constantly on here, with no one to talk to except for yourself. I can only imagine how many accounts you have.  Always stirring up strife. You are not a man of God, that is clear to see. You need to repent.

  • Amen, Kevin.

  • Yeah, I remember, and when the heat was on you, you went and deleted the account. But I have to admit, we fell for your 'bogus' account on the official700club. That is till today. You are busted. lOL.

  • You are busted ed. Ha. Just like you made a false account 'mimicking' Utops husbands screen name. We are on to you ed. Better watch you steps. You might get burned. :)

  • Haukman66's statement is true. My husband's User name is "NotIButChristWithin". The account created to discredit me for reproving the heresies in Paul Young's book "The Shack" was "NotIButChristWIthn" (no "i). This account was created on the same day that my husband sharply rebuked ele12957 for making wholly inappropriate public remarks about intimacy in our marriage. When I revealed my suspicions the account was closed in haste. Please be aware that ele12957 is an accuser of the Brethren.

  • "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." (Romans 16:17)

  • I want to call everyones attention to this video that ele12957 is directing you too. Notice the screen name of the person who typed the message, is theoffcial700club, which is missing the "I" in its name. The page that posted the video, is theofficial700club. (correct spelling)

    So just be aware that the comment is bogus, along with the page. ele12957 is notorious for making 'bogus' screen names, and has conversations with himself to look like he has allies. He is a fake. Beware.

  • I praise God for exposing this deception in His glorious light. Thank you my brother, Haukman66, for standing firm and righteously reproving the unfruitful works of darkness. I pray that if this is indeed one of ele12957's many attempts to silence me that he will be brought to godly sorrowful repentance for his rebellion against our Sovereign and holy Lord. May our Lord Jesus Christ be glorified even by the wicked deeds of men which "are a shame even to speak of". God bless you, my brother.

  • Believe me, it was a pleasure to expose him for the fraud he is, Utop!!  God Bless.

  • I praise the Lord God in the name of Jesus Christ for showing you the truth in His divine light, my dear brother. Much love to you in our blessed Messiah.

    "He reveals the deep and secret things: he knows what is in the darkness, and the light dwells with him." (Daniel 2:22)

  • My sister Karen, I greatly appreciate your kind defense on my behalf.  God bless you. I would like to state that it is I who has endured months of harassment, slander, lies and abuse at the hands of ele12957, not the other way around. Please take heed of the information I gave Blogrich55 about ele12957's position as a Pentecostal/Charismatic minister and the apostate authors and ministries he endorses. My husband, NotIButChristWithin, has proven my claims on the video:

    /watch?v=kZWaF57eIIg

  • I hate YouTube! Sheesh! Won't let my comment go through so I'll split it in half....again....

    Ele, I never said that. Will you just let it go now, please? Fine, whatever you say. It is very obvious in the comments here that I didn't come after you first and you're the one whose acting like a spoiled brat so YOU grow up!

  • Say whatever you want. I don't care. If you comment to me again, I will not answer it. So waste your breath if you want to. Whatever it takes to help you get over it. I'm done with you.

    PS - You said this: "Btw, you all deserve each other."

    Thank you, I'll be in good company.

  • Umm..... I just did. And there you go again with your insults trying to look like the innocent party again. Sheesh! You are embarrassed by your actions and are trying to divert them on to me. You are the spammer ele, I am just defending myself. I said I will let it go and I am letting it go.

  • But I will NEVER believe anything else you ever have to say. You have shown your true colors here. So slander me all you want. Put me in keeping with Kevin and Utopiang, I don't mind. At least I'll be in good company. :)

  • Nope, I commented about Calvin, Servetus, and Hunt ONLY. And in those comments was truth. It had NOTHING to do with you, ele. Nothing. You started this, not me. But you have apologized and I will accept it. I meant no offense either and I also apologize. My intention was just to post about those men only and how it got into this, I have no idea. But I am willing to let it rest if you are. :)

  • Ele, I'm beginning to think you're nuts. What are you talking about? Where did I dredge up anything? LOL!!! Okay...I commented about Servetus and Calvin and Dave Hunt. None of them was ABOUT you. You then came back at me and resorted to insults by saying I needed to do my home work before spouting my opinion, followed by "Pay attention or at least follow the discussion before you embarrass yourself again." Excuse me? Who insulted who first here, bucko!

  • Yes, it's obvious in the thread that it was you. And I'm sorry if you expected that I'd be intidated by you and your stupid little comments. I don't intimidate easily, so I'll save you time before you try to do it again. Also, you first came at me with the "Attitude" mister. I, of course, defended myself. You don't like it, then don't bother me and I won't bother you.

  • But if you unfairly attack me you better believe that I am going to respond to it. And I have. And please, stop throwing Rich's name around as though it justifies your actions. It doesn't. I can simply go ask him about you if I care to. So save it. You are the one who needs to grow up. You're here having one childish tantrum after the other and you just keep digging your hole a little deeper. You should stop now before it gets so deep that you can't get out.

  • I have no doubt that you are a brother. I just said you need to ACT like one. So YOU need to grow up and act like a Christian. As I stated already, you spoke to me first, not the other way around. And as for me - you don't know me anymore than I know you. At least I've been honest with you here.

  • You didn't care for my opinion, that's fine. I don't care about yours either. You've given me no reason to. Just insults and name calling. And a temper tantrum or two from you. So what conclusion did you expect me to have about you after you so "lovingly" came after me when I did not agree with you. Think about it.

  • No I really don't think you care what I think anymore than I don't care what you think. Actually, I had more facts than you're aware of but that's not the point. I can comment just like you can. YOU jumped into the discussion just as I did. You started here ON THIS VIDEO not Utopiang. When you started on Vekl on the other video it was YOU who jumped in and started it. So why can no one else jump in. See what I am saying?

  • Don't condemn others for what you are doing yourself. That's all I'm trying to show you here, for if you treat others unfairly, then others will treat you unfairly. It's a little lesson you need to learn here. That is what I am getting at.

  • I don't need to be right. Often times I get it wrong. But see, you have given me no evidence to support your claims. I'm sorry but on Rich's video you just barreled in and started on someone else. And you didn't like it when it happened to you so why should you be upset at others who don't like it when you do it to them?

  • And this is one thing that I must point out. I went and reread my comments here to make sure, just for you, ele, that I am being fair before I say it. My first comments here was to Utopiang.

  • I agreed with her comment about how we of the Reformed faith get attacked for it. I also gave her assurance that I was her friend and how Jay and Kevin are also friends and that I did not know Dorian. None of those comments were directed to you, ele. Yet you felt it necessary to come at me with your accusations against her.

  • I don't know you, how do you think your attitude and actions appeared to me and to others and then you start trying to justify your actions. So, I did not jump in here, ele, you did when you responded to my comment that I had made to Utopiang. And when you did, I did not ignore you. I called it as I saw it and how I saw it was YOUR fault, not mine. As I said, you commented to me first, not the other way around.

  • No, I'm not dishonest. I read the comments there and I gave you my opinion. You are now doing what you accused her of doing. Two wrongs don't make it right. And I am not saying she is wrong.  This is the way that I am seeing it.

  • By being an outsider in all this perhaps I can see it more clearly than you. Rich is my friend too and if I need to I will ask him about this. If you sincerely want this to stop, then quit bringing it on. From what I have seen here, you are in the wrong. You attacked first here, brother. This is a public forum and anyone can comment on any comment here in it unless Vekl says not to.

  • Ummmm....you were insulting everyone else there before she even showed up! Sheesh! You are the dense one. How do expect people to respond to you ele after you have insulted them?

    CONT

  • You go for the attack the minute you start making comments. This is not evidence of Jesus in you. If you want respect you first have to GIVE respect. If you want to be treated fairly, then treat others fairly. If you falsely accuse someone, expect that they ARE going to defend themselves and their faith. It's not rocket science ele....do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

  • Okay, I went there and read the comments. I had already posted there before you did also. Blogrich55 is one of my dearest friends and brothers in the Lord. All I saw there where you are concerned are false accusations made by you about everyone else who didn't agree with you. That was NOT a good example to send to someone.

  • I have read the thread. I was posting here before you were and I've kept up with the comments. It still doesn't change what you have tried to do here. I'm not embarrassed. But I think you are. You got caught and are now desperately trying to hide that fact by side-stepping and now accusing me and insulting me. This tells me that you are indeed what Kevin and Utopiang say you are. And they didn't convince me of it. You did.

  • No I haven't. I know what you're talking about. I saw your comments on the Bentley video. But that's not the point. The point is you, for some reason, felt the need to follow HER here and accuse her. THAT is the point here. And it's very evident of who is doing the stalking and accusing and it isn't Keven or Utopiang.

    CONT

  • When you comment on videos, stay on the topic of the video. Otherwise it makes you look like a hypocrite. I am seeing this from the outside looking in and the only one I see doing wrong is you.

  • ele, you are an insulting little man, aren't you. Why? Does it make you feel superior somehow? You're not, you know. And it makes you look ridiculous. You accused her and tried to hide your accusation in a question to her. I'm not stupid and neither is she and neither is Kevin.

    CONT

  • Why did you feel the need to bring this up anyway? This video isn't about her at all. Yet, here you are slandering her all over this video just for the simple reason that you don't like her. And that is wrong. Your intentions are not right. You only did this to embarrass or hurt her.

    CONT

  • I wasn't a Calvinist until last year. That doesn't mean I am a hypocrite. I had a hard time coming to the truth of it's teachings. But when I stopped being so proud of my own freewill and let the Holy Spirit reveal to me the truth about my salvation, I recognized the truth in the Doctrines of Grace. Apparently so did Utopiang. You said she denied it. I doubt that but maybe you just misunderstood her? I denied it until I fully understood it and then I denied it no more.

  • True, Paul wasn't saved when he approved of killing Stephen. But God chose him anyway. I didn't pop in. I've been here, I was here, before you were and I have the right to "spout" my opinion just as much as you do so don't go getting all offended about it. I am not embarrassed. But YOU are an embarrassment to the Christians here.

  • Paul was not saved, yes, I know this. But David was and I noticed you avoided mentioning him and you didn't answer the question put to you about him by Kevin either. You're so obvious with your intentions.

    CONT

  • You came here full of accusations about Utopiang that has NOTHING to do with the topic of this video. Your intentions here were not honorable and yet you are so full of yourself you can't see what a hypocrite you really are. What did that false accusation against my sister Utopiang have to do with this video? Absolutely nothing! Then you started accusing Kevin, why is that? To discredit him. I see what you're about. An accuser of the brethren. You've discredited yourself.

  • Ah, but David was God's when he had Uriah killed in battle. So the comparison does count. David was in sin, but he still belonged to God.

  • Dave Hunt at first claimed he knew almost nothing about the Reformation or the Reformers. A short time later he comes out with a book claiming to be an expert on the Reformed faith. That's a lie. Either he knows or he doesn't. And since he admitted not long before that he knew nothing about it, and then claimed to be an expert, this makes him a liar and a bad one at that.

    CONT>

  • Servetus was a heretic who was put to death after a lengthy trial found him guilty of heresy. John Calvin could not put a stop to the execution if he'd wanted to. He had no authority yet to do so in Geneva at that time. Heresy by law in that period of time was punishable by death. It is not the fault of Calvin even though he agreed to it. Paul approved of Stephen's stoning and David had Uriah killed because of Bathsheba. The claim against Calvin about Servetus has no merit.

  • Oh, I disagree ed. You can tell by your comments, you are defending that line of thinking. Doesnt matter if you know of Crowder or not. You obviously knew something about him to go search his video. And I did try to post your comments like 5 or 6 times. Maybe you would know by seeing me make the comment "Blah blah blah, this is a test..YT is not posting my comments". earlier in the thread. So believe what you want, I really dont care.

  • My brother, let's not indulge ele12957 any longer.

    "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself." (1 Tim 6:3-5)

  • I agree, Utop, but be careful, because if we ever respond to his nonsense again, he will call us a liar!! LoL.

  • Ugh.

  • ele12957, I posted evidence which exposed Kathryn Kuhlman's false healings, her doctrines of demonic and abject adoration of the holy spirit (lower case). I warned people to study the biblical examinations of her ministry whilst you fervently defended her as an "amazing" woman used mightily by God.

    The remainder of your comment is not worthy of a response.

  • Correction: "doctrines of demons"

  • Actually, that is true. Since we are all graced with the perfect sovereignty of God, it was clearly ordained that I should hold to the Reformed theology. It took me months to reach this point because I was being educated scripturally on the position. If I had simply reached it within 1 week it would hardly be thoroughly examined and proven.

    ele12957, you are a minister of Satan. I do not say it lightly, I say it after months of interaction with you and scriptural study (2 Cor 13-15)

  • ele12957, I published the video codes and therein lies the evidence of your positive endorsement of the ministries of Bentley and Crowder. Will you please try to control your tongue which does not bring glory to Christ? And, as I suggested earlier, refer to Titus 3 and the letters to Timothy on what is expected of a minister in service to Christ.

  • Note the word "hate", ele12957. Those who spew vitriol at believers who hold a Reformed position clearly hate the truth.

    Prior to coming to the Reformed position, I never, not at any time, desired to persecute Calvinists. Brothers like Jay, Dorian and Kevin knew that I was not Reformed and yet they showed me unconditional Christian love and kindness, never forcing their beliefs on me or belittling mine. Rather, they gently encouraged me in my walk. This is the fruit of Christ-like love.

  • "Note the word "hate", ele12957. Those who spew vitriol at believers who hold a Reformed position clearly hate the truth."

    Utopiang, you got that right! Amen, my sister! I also agree about our brothers...I do not know Dorian, but I do know Jay and Kevin and they are awesome brothers in the Lord. God bless you my sister as you defend our faith! I'm right alongside you all. :) Take care.

  • God bless you, Karen. And I am standing with you, sister.

    Dorian is Soldier7of7Christ. He, Jay and Kevin are a great blessing to the Body of Christ as are each of our brothers and sisters who show compassion, love and encouragement to a person whether they be Arminian or Reformed. All stand ready to share the good news. I praise the Lord that they are also firm in their righteous indignation and will authoritatively rebuke those who seek to undermine the Body with sedition and strife.

  • Thank you. :)  I will have to send Dorian a friend invite. He sounds like a great guy and brother in the Lord just as Kevin and Jay are.

  • Still no answer about David. He was a man after Gods own heart. So what is your point?

  • Ed, do you not read the thread. I said, I tried to copy and paste your comments and it wouldnt post, so I just directed anyone who cares to the videos. You are in support of those beliefs, yet you deny it. I have posted your quote about casting demons out. Is that not what word of faith is? It is obvious you are defending Bentley and Crowder. Anyone can see that.

  • Amen, brother.

  • What are you referring to ed?

  • Okay, as long as we are being honest, Calvin did not murder Servetus. Calvin warned him not to come to Geneva, and he came anyway. He was being hunted by the Roman Catholic church for Heresy of denying the Trinity. All Calvin did was testify at his trial.(you know this).

    Was David a Christian when he did what he did?

  • That was not evidence, ele12957, it was denial in the face of clear endorsements.

    To make it simple for you to understand, ele12957: I was not fully persuaded by the TULIP during my early walk with Christ but now I am. I learned and grew in my understanding as I studied the Reformed doctrine and compared it to the Word of God. It is not difficult to comprehend, is it?

  • Utop, you shouldnt have to explain to him. He likes to throw the word 'liar' out there. He is an accuser of the brethren. Dont ever say anything and then change your position on it, otherwise you are a liar. Its ridiculous.

  • Matt Slick is entitled to His opinion and whilst I do not agree with his position on the non-cessation of the apostolic gifts, I do not imagine that he endorses the farce that has been spawned by Pentecostalism i.e. Benny Hinn, the Copelands, Todd Bentley, Toronto outpouring etc.

    As a Reformed Calvinist, it is not I who hates the truth, ele12957.

  • No, ele12957, Kevin is NOT a liar. I am appalled at the way in which you so casually fling false accusations at people. Since you claim to be a minister I would encourage you to read Titus and both letters to Timothy to understand what is expected of you.

    "To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men." (Titus 3:2)

  • Yes, that is correct and the Holiness movement was also demonically inspired. However, Azusa Street spawned Pentecostalism. The apostle Paul was addressing the apostles and disciples through whom the apostolic gifts were being bestowed for the purposes of bringing forth the Gospel which is now sealed. Any extra-biblical prophecies or revelations would be divine Scripture so the question is, why have these new revelations not been added to the canon? The answer is found in Revelation 22:18-20.

  • Oh here we go agian. ed you going to bring up Servetus and John Calvin to try and prove your point. Paul murdered Stephen, so I guess we should throw out what he said too. Moses was a murderer, as was David, who was also an adulterer. So throw out what they have said too.

  • Kevin, I need to read all the comments before I post. LOL!!! If I had I'd have seen you've already countered his arguments. I'm so sorry, brother. I'll read them all next time before I comment. God bless you!

  • Thats what I was asking you , but you didnt give a clear answer. So we agree then. My point is, that Geisler subscribes to billions of years, and when you start with that premise, it is very dangerous.

  • As I said before, if there is any truth to these "death threats" they most certainly did not come from regenerate Christians and therefore, they did not come from authentic Calvinists. Since your opinions are based on bias and a fervant desire to undermine sound doctrine based solely on Scripture, it is difficult to take your reasoning or remarks seriously.

  • Kevin is not a dishonest man, ele12957. Please focus on facts, insults are not an argument.

  • ele12957, Christ went to the cross, a willing sacrifice, to appease God's wrath against sinful fallen men. This penal substitutionary atonement was an act of incomprehensible mercy and love. How is it that you do not know this?

  • ele12957, the apostolic gifts were a sign for unbelievers during the revelation of the Gospel.

    Pentecostalism/Charismaticism was born out of the demonic gatherings at Azusa Street. See the online article by K.B. Napier titled, "Azusa Street - Birth of a Lie".

    Matthew 7:21 -23

  • Ed, you have supposedly been a minister for how many years now, and you havent made up your mind on Gen. 1 thru 11? Cmon now. How old do you think the earth is? Did death come before sin?(as in dinosaurs) Was each day in Gen 1 a long period of time, or was it a 24 hr period? These answers are in scripture, but you havent made up your mind yet?

  • ele12957, the readers will decide that for themselves what your comments mean.  Now, do you have a comment about vekl's video or are you going to continue to seek negative attention?

  • Here is a comment by ele12957 on the crowder video: "I pray for the sick because the Bible tells me to and I cast devils out of people who want help". That sounds like Word of Faith talk to me ed. LOL.

  • No born again Christian would not threaten a person's life so if there is any truth to what you are saying then the people who are behaving this way are clearly unregenerate. Monica Dennington's very poor argument was well and truly refuted by a NON-Calvinist:

    watch?v=W8-lfr69h2I

  • Correction: "No born again Christian would threaten a person's life..."

  • Utop, I believe that whole 'death threat' was a hoax. They were trying to blame it on a reformed brother of ours, and he has since made a video response to the allegations. It is utterly ridiculous.

  • Amen, Haukman.

  • Absolutely utterly ridiculous. Remember, we asked for evidence of these alleged threats and none were given and the video was made private. Since no evidence was provided, the death threats, I believe, can be called another lie by Monica Dennington and VioletKitty411. The length people will go to to gain attention and fame. It's almost like selling your soul. Disgusting!

  • Your comments on the Todd Bentley video: watch?v=INiiMq5s1xE

  • ele12957, even rudimentary Biblical knowledge reveals that there is undiluted blasphemy being spewed forth from Crowder's ministry. Where is your discernment one wonders?

  • ele12957, you are a John Crowder supporter and here is one example:

    watch?v=n4tHcB8KhiY

  • I came the Reformed position by mindfully studying the Word to show myself approved and learned the truth.

    Jay and my other Calvinist brothers and sisters become frustrated with those who despisefully disrespect Reformed theology. Openly attacking it with vitriol and poisonous lies is divisive and sinful. Disagreements are to be expected between Brethren on doctrine and, when kept respectful, need not hinder us. However, outright sedition against God's glory must be reproved with Scripture.

  • I know what the word of God says, and it says, that God made the earth and all that was in it, in Six literal days. Do you dispute this, or do you side with Geisler?

  • Ed, maybe you should check the thread before you reply. YT, for some reason would not let me copy and paste your comments,so I directed people to the videos I was speaking of.

  • ele12957, Kevin is not a liar and to as long as you have been communicating with I have never witnessed him state a single untruth about you. Shame on you for false accusing him and causing contention and strife among the Brethren of Christ.

    I would encourage you to read 1 Timothy 6:3-5 and then examine yourself against 1 John.

  • And since you are so keen to know it, the answer, ele12957, is... yes, I am a Reformed Calvinist. There you are, I am now officially stating my position. I hope that that satisfies your desire to know my preferred theology.

    As for your other statements, I pray that you will come to repentance for falsely accusing not only myself but anyone who corrects your poor doctrine.

  • I see you have your fangs out, ele12957. I made the comment you quoted months ago and BEFORE I came to fully accept the truth. Praise God! Leonard Ravenhill was a sound Biblical teacher despite his stand on Arminianism. Few people would dispute that he was a man of God. Interestingly, as an Arminian, he named Charles Spurgeon as the being one of the best evangelists of our day.

    There needn't be war between the two camps however, those who rage against Calvinism must be firmly corrected.

  • Wow, that is funny, I enjoy Matt Slick. I think he is very knowledgeable. However, if he feels that spiritual gifts are for today, that is his belief. Doesnt mean I have to go along with it. Did any 'theologian' ever get everything right? I think not. Otherwise he would be God. Would he not? As far as Geisler, like I said, he is very knowledgeable, but he is wrong when it comes to reformed theology, as well as the age of the earth. He subscribes to 'billions of years'. Wrong!!!

  • I would invite anyone to go check out ele12957's comments on John Crowder ANOTHER GOSPEL video. John Crowder is a false prophet that apparently ele follows. Since I have tried and failed to post  these sayings here, go check them for yourself. Dont be surprised if you see alot of "deleted" comments. Also check out THE BAPTISM SERVICE (HIGHLIGHTS) - Todd Bentley. eles comments are there as well.

  • That is funny, ele, I have seen your comments on Todd Benleys vid's, defending him. That doesnt sound to me, like someone who is against it.

  • ele, are you stalking Utop, again? Obviously you are. Utop, can change her view, as many others have. I believed He died for ALL at one point in time also. But when I ACTUALLY READ the bible and saw what it said, I changed my position. Norm Geisler is a well respected man, but when it comes to reformed theology, he is very ignorant. He calls himself a 'moderate calvinist'. So please, why dont you butt out, and take your pentecostal/word of faith teachings with you please.

  • Haukman66, thank you for taking a stand for me. I truly appreciate it, my brother. I agree 100% with every word you stated. God bless you.

    To those reading his comments, please pray that the Lord bring ele12957 to the truth in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

  • dude, you got to be one of the coolest guys i know, i cant wait for this series

  • AWESOME!!! I can't wait to see it! Brainouty refuses to comment to me anymore. I can't for the life of me understand why? :0) I am really looking forward to this brother. God bless you and I am praying for you!

  • When we present the facts to our accusers, they have a tendency to never speak to us again. They just don't want to own up to the fact that they are clearly wrong.

  • Yep! And if you ask them questions about why they believe we are wrong, they hit the highway, never to be heard from again...until the next video....and then they run away again. Hit and runs...that's all they are and all they do. Says a lot about them, I think.

  • calvinismisacult comes to mind. I gave him a suggestion and he has yet to answer me. He's not man enough to humble himself and read some John Owen.

  • nice, cant wait, hay whats up innocenceagain , nice to see ya, hows it going, did brainouty ever talk to you, did she ever answer you, i didnt get one on the ? i had ask, i know she terminated your conversation, and went as far as to call you a liar, whats up with that

    oh great video vekl , cant wait to see the rest

  • This is awesome Jay. Cant wait to see it.  God bless you my brother.

  • I've just subscribed-when brainouty came out with that crap, I ended up just blocking her-after seeing what Tic Toc did, I have zero tolerance for people who engage in outright lies about reformed theology!

  • From what I'm understanding from the non-Reformed crowd, these accusers have practically lost their minds (and I'm not saying that in mockery either).

  • i'm looking forward to this. I saw that video, and tried to talk to brainouty, and then she just said "you're a liar conversation terminated" when I hadn't even lied...lol

    her videos NEED to be refuted. so thanks for doing this! God bless!

  • Wow, I didn't think she would go that far.

    That makes me feel better now.

  • Yeah...it's just wow to me too. Basically, when she was talking to me, she said that Calvin was my pope...she thinks if you just believe once you are saved, even if you have no understanding of what you are doing...told me I could blaspheme God and still be saved...told me saying faith produces works is unbiblical...said trying to live for righteously for God isn't needed...said we can stay "spiritual" retards"-her words not mine-and be fine...

  • she sent me to her website, which for some reason that she won't explain to me, you have to be a legal adult to view.. she told me that "repent" was just a favorite term of the Calvinists...and when I gave her all sorts of verses about repentance is when she accused me of lying and said "conversation terminated". Unless she deleted comments, all this should still be publicly visible.

  • Don't forget that she says the pro-life movement is blasphemy and Satanic because God is not the author of life and babies don't have souls until they are born and take their first breath. That one STEAMS me every time I see it. And you don't have to surrender to God or show any evidence you are a Christian....in other words, you don't have to show good fruits. Wow! She is just........really out there.

  • Wow!!! Karen. You MUST show me evidence that she says these things. She needs to be exposed HARSHLY!!

    When did she make these comments?

  • Jay here is the link to her video on Prolife heresy, that Karen is speaking of.

    /watch?v=Olstz0ynCmY

  • Yep! Thanks Hauk! :0) God bless!

    Vekl, I will send you the link to her website in a PM since YT won't let you post links. :)

  • The video where she says you don't have to show fruits or evidence of salvation is on the Calve Islam 1. You can go to her channel and click on her playlists and scroll down and you will come across this:

    brainout-made Prolife Blasphemy

  • And here is the description:

    Series purpose is to show BIBLE says you're not human until BORN, when God creates your soul and gives your body, its first BREATH. No one but God is the author of life. The prolife movement is appallingly satanic. By the time you go through all the videos in this series you'll see that from Bible for yourself.

    CONT

  • Much exegesis is given, but it will be easy to understand, as you'll see it onscreen from BibleWorks.

    This is the series I'm currently working on, and it will be added to from time to time. You'll usually have to click on the video description links to see the Hebrew and Greek exegetical videos, which require fullscreen 1280x1024 resolution.

    CONT.

  • I'm not pro-abortion. But prolifers are aborting Bible to claim it's murder to have an abortion. They egregiously malign God and His Word in all their actions and claims re Bible. Worst of all, they POLITIC on this, which is Revelation 17. So prolife is satanic.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Just for clarification, on the Calve Islam video where she made the statements, she made them in the comments, not on the video.

    She has a website....it's a nightmare. She is very dangerous!

  • blah blah blah blah...this is a test!! Youtube is not posting my posts!!! UGH!!

  • That happens to me too. Drives me right up the wall!

  • lol...glad that makes you feel better.

    She's definitely teaching a dangerous gospel even aside from her hatred of Calvinism. So I support your refuting of her 100%. I'm praying for her though.

    And I'm praying for you as well. :) God bless!

  • Can't wait brother.

  • An excellent trailer as always. How thankful we are that your righteous refutation will glorify our blessed Saviour, my dear brother. We praise God for you! We are also confident that power, wisdom and inspiration that the Lord has poured out through you in past videos will be shown in this one, too. We are very excited about seeing it!

    Much love to you and Carrie in our mighty Redeemer, Jay.

  • Praise God...there will be a little bit of emotion and stern words...so I hope I glorify God with this video.

    Thank you, Angie.

  • I say "Amen and amen" to a little bit of emotion and stern words! The Lamb of God is worthy.

    God bless you, Jay.

  • Feel free to ask me any questions about Islam, Jay.

  • Thanks Glorthac. Actually I m looking forwar to studying more about Islam.

    I'm happy hat i can go to you....and i will be soon.

  • why do you want to study about islam

    from a non-muslim?

  • Brother Jay, cannot WAIT to see the home runs on this one. If it's like your SALVIFIC LOSS series, it'll be one to wait for.

  • Wel, I appreciate the comments, but I really think that the series itself will not be as exciting as this trailer....but I love making these, though...

  • I'm excited about this, vekl. I've appreciated your series so far.

    Just out of curiosity, what software do you use for editing videos? They're well done.

  • I ise Adobe Premier, After Effects, and apparently some of the same satuff you use...Videocopilot stuff.

    Good stuff.

  • I believe all five points!

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