Andrew Breitbart: "This Country's Worth Defending"

[Kurtlane]

Putting national securiity on the front pages is an excelent idea.

Unfortunately, being a pessimist, I think it'd take another 9/11 to do that. Or maybe even another 9/11 won't be enough.

Obama and his socialist crowd have convinced Americans that everything will be just fine as long as we hide our hands in the sand. Once people are convicted of that, it's very difficult to break the habit.

[sdkee]

There has never been a real terrorist threat. Not in the way you think.

In the worst year for the US (2001), more people were killed by accidental drowning than terrorism. Since then, more people have died from peanut allergies each year than terrorism.

Why to you fixate on this? Is is because the media and politicians do so? Do you ask yourself why *they* do?

Where is the anti-drowning outrage? Where is the anti-peanut discrimination?

Why allow yourselves to be played as pawns?

[Kurtlane]

Right, sdkee. There never was a terrorist threat. And there was no attack on 9/11. And all those people jumping from buildings are figments of my imagination or were plotted by the CIA. And you are the Pope in Rome. And the moon is made of blue cheeze.

Why should I fixate on this? Who cares how many were killed in WWI and WWII? Who cares about what happened to Lebanon? Who cares that Europe is about to turn Islamist?

Let's just put our heads in the sand and think something pleasant.

[sdkee]

@ Kurlane

Terrorism is a threat in the same sense that getting run over by a bus is a threat. It will fuck you up if it happens to you, but the likelihood of it occurring to you is sufficiently low that it does not make sense build your entire worldview around this danger. For instance, it does not make sense to outlaw buses or to avoid walking near roads.

But people like you are so fixated on this one small issue and propose to reshape the world in response to it.

Why?

[Kurtlane]

sdkee, right nown in the US the likelihood of you getting killed by terror is lower than being run over by a bus.

Not so in hotbeds of terror like Iraq, Algiers, Pakistan, etc.

Take it for granted, and it will change here too. How many plots have been dismantled since 9/11?

If I follow your logic and take things for granted, why have an army? It's a drain on the budget. Few if any are now actively planning to conquer the US. Just let it go.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

No, you worry about terror while it's relatively low, so it doesn't rise high. You have an army, so no one even thinks of attacking you. You take care of problems while they are small; when they grow big, they might quickly overwhelm you.

And the threat is far greater than just terror. The threat is Islamic domination and world conquest.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

There's this huge network of organizations, some supplying money to terrorists, some supporting them, some creating them, some protecting them, bribing, lobbying, etc., or just concealing others.

Here's just a tiny list, right off the top:

Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic Society of North America, Muslim American Society, Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, KinderUSA, Fiqh Council of North America,

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

International Institute of Islamic Thought, American Iranian Council, Middle East Policy Council, Islamic Free Market Institute, Institute of Islamic Political Thought, American Muslim Alliance, Islamic Relief Worldwide, Islamic Association for Palestine, National Coalition for the Protection of Political Freedom, Islamic Academy of Florida. And tons more. And these are just the American ones.

That's just in America. And there are many more than that.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Some of these have been shut down, some are under investigation. But most are running free and wild. The mood now is such that it's extremely hard to prosecute anyone

Moreover the "Islamic finance" now being quickly adopted in the US is about to pump a huge load of money to these and to others abroad. And who is about to supervise that?

With, Obama, it's only getting worse

Look what happened to Lebanon:

watch?v=-8fa9yKQeTY

(and the rest of the series)

Wait till Iran gets nukes

[Kurtlane]

One wonders why wasn't that the response of FDR and the rest of the country after Pearl Harbor attack? It was on the same scale as 9/11.

No, they went to war against Japan. Why the hell did they do that? (sarcasm)

[sdkee]

@ Kurtlane

I don't have time to deal with your wandering, fallacy-laden, rant on how the world is out to get us because of the nasty Muslims who hate us because we're free.

You want to idolize whatever Hitler-type character happens to be shouting the loudest about the wonders of militaristic nationalism, so be it.

But don't expect me to approve when your delusions begin to manifest themselves in policy. Don't destroy *my* republic over a threat less threatening than my backyard pool.

[Kurtlane]

sdkee, I don't expect you to aprove anything.

But this is not "your" republic. You don't own it. It's mine just as much. People like you have destroyed it enough already, and keep destroying it.

[Kurtlane]

sdkee, I am sorry if I didn't quite express things as clearly as I wanted too. English is not my first language.

I just found a video that has a few comparisons that make the very same point I was trying to much better than me. Please watch (comparisons start around 6:30 - 7:00):

watch?v=x28egBCgP0E

[sdkee]

@ Kurtlane

Sorry for late reply.

The video only helps make my point. It asks to "giving up pieces of the enlightenment" to combat a threat less dangerous than eating peanuts or digging a swimming pool into our back yard.

The Enlightenment was a springtime from a thousand+ years of stagnation. You'd be a dirt farmer without it.

Terrorism is less likely to kill you than your car is.

Do you understand my point now?

[Floridanon407]

@sdkee The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Vigilance in regards to foreign threats and our own government.

[sdkee]

@ Floridanon407

> Vigilance in regards to foreign threats and our own government.

I couldn't agree more.

[deepwell07]

he must be talking about israel. that is the only country the us government has defended for the past 50 years.

[DixieDale]

Cheney,Rumsfeld and Libby are considered CRIMINALS by most Americans.

No amount of faux awards or banquets or PR efforts will erase the stench of the Bush WH wrongfully attacking Iraq, killing hundreds of thousands.

We voted you neo-con war mongering devils out of the WH in 2008 and we're busy trying to clean up the God-awful messs you left.

If you love your country so much, please GO AWAY and let Obama repair the damage you have done.

[Kurtlane]

No, DixieDale. They've been condemned into criminals without any hearing or trial by scum like you.

Go glorify your Stalin.

[ProgressiveAction10]

Why is it that conservatives, being the most ignorant and uneducated demographic, always believe they know what is right for America? Haven't you guys fucked up enough already?

[NCURTIS101]

Yea, let's give President HIS change to fuck it up even more. He will be a one term president and might rank up there with Carter.

[freeconservative]

can not wait for all future Big websites!!! the future in America is AT LEAST going to be interesting again. If we have to suffer another 3 years of Obumbler, then at least we have Big websites to look forward to!!

[freeconservative]

Thanks Andrew -- you are the real "hope" and "change" we can believe in.

You are a true American hero!!

[sdkee]

Yes, the country is worth defending ... from people like this guy.

[freeconservative]

yes, because lefties can't stand free speech. we get it.

[sdkee]

@freeconservative

Did I say anything about *stopping* him from saying anything?

The manner of defense is through reasoned arguments. The victory comes when even ignorant morons know that he is peddling lies in the service of death.

And I'm not a "leftie", at least not in the way that you think you understand it. My views lie closer to anarcho-capitalism, but you are obviously trapped in the left-right false dichotomy, so I don't expect you to understand the difference.

[haypenny]

Get 'em Andy. Ron's watching.

[mosquewatcher]

All the best ! Great video .