Min Nan, Minnan, or Min-nan (Simplified Chinese: 闽南语; Traditional Chinese: 閩南語; pinyin: Mǐnnányǔ; POJ: Bân-lâm-gú; "Southern Min" or "Southern Fujian" language) refers to a family of Chinese languages/dialects which are spoken in southern Fujian & neighboring areas & by descendants of emigrants from these areas in diaspora.
I used wikipedia to only show that I m not being chauvinistic or wat cos I still noe about my own culture well. By the way when u say we are all MINNAN people do u mean that the People republic of chine make a mistake calling itself china instead of MINNAN or wat. Or u think that the china government do not noe the similarity between chinese and Minnan and the differences between these languages
Language family: Sino-Tibetan Chinese > Mandarin > Beijing, Nanjing dialect Chinese > Min > MIN NAN *** Chinese > Yue > Cantonese Chinese > Wu > Hangzhou, Shanghai
可是,随着全球化的普及,潮州话的母语使用者逐渐减少。受到共同文化和传媒影响,很多原以潮州话为母语的新加坡华裔青少年,都转而说英语、华语和闽南语(与潮州话有些互通)。 From this it only says that 闽南语 ony ve a bit of similarity and not that 闽南语 equal to 潮州话
In common parlance, Min Nan 閩南語 /闽南语 Bân-lâm-gú -refers 2 Xiamen Speech (or Amoy Language), which is called Taiwanese in Taiwan & Hokkien by residents of Southeast Asia. Amoy is a combination of Quanzhou + Zhangzhou speech. The Min Nan family also includes Teochew & Qiongwen (Hainanese).
由于地理隔绝潮州话发展为独立的方言.潮汕话与闽台片的闽南语有许多相似的地方,但相互之间差别仍旧十分明显。 This is adapted from ur so call trustworthy wikipedia. Did u misinterpret wat it is saying or are u inventing ur own history and making use of wikipedia as a shield.
By the way for my own interest only if u dun mind can u give me the full address of both Beijing university and xiamen university and under which column u found ur information so I can go and ve a look jus in case I miss anything out which may make me look ignorant. By the way I enjoy singing Teochew song so mayb I should noe more bout it jus in case lah.
I hope u r clear now. Cos a lot of thing mayb from the same origin but they are not the same thing. Jus like mayb our forefather r from the same origin china. But do we call ourself china national Or should u be call as the country which u are born in I should be call a singaporean bcos I m born in singapore. I m sure u would not say that u r a chinese national!
It really pathetic. As a chinese you dun even noe what is hokkien and what is teochew. It really an insult to the chinese community. You better dun go around telling people you are a chinese
For some Singaporean, who are brought up in Mandarin Speaking environment, they can't speak Teochew or Hokkien properly. Government stupid policy in Singapore suppressed all dialects. Presently Teochew and Hakka are dying a natural death while Taiwanese/Hokkien and Cantonese survive bcos d availability of mass media like Cable TV, songs, movies, soap operas series etc from Taiwan and Hong Kong. I m very sad many parents r not teaching their kids dialects anymore.
I strongly agree with you. Some Singaporean chinese are pathetic> THey can't understand ther own dialect well yet are capable of speaking english so fluently and yet they are still very pround of being able to speak english well and think that it is a disgrace to speak their own dialect. Luckily I am not one of them and that not all singaporean are like this
I believe these dialect maybe from the same origin but you still have to at least be able to differentiate them. For example you are call limyangyang and you ve a brother call imyaya. You both are from the same origin(ur parents) Does it matters to you that people mix the both of you. I m sure ur answer would surely be yes. So pls from the sme origin does not means teochew+=hokkien or hokkien=teochew. ThAHK YOU
In actual fact Teochew, Hainannese, Hokkien, Taiwanese and Leizhou, Lannang are all Mutually Intelligible and consider as d DIALECTS OF MINNAN. The "Prestige tongue" of Minnan is Xiamen or AMOY Version (similar to Taiwanese) like in this song. Check from d Wikipedia or other encyclopedia for full details.
Yeozonghan - In MINNAN LANGUAGE root, their dialects r all mutually intelligible. with differences due to geographical separation over time. In South China, MINNAN hv dialects such as Quanzhou, Zhangzhou , Xiamen, Taiwanese; those in Guangdong Province are Diochiu, while in Hainan Island & Leizhous peninsular is Leizhou dialects. In Zhejiang they emigrated from Quanzhou. In Malaysia & Singapore, MINNAN r classified in 3 dialects groups - Teochew, Hokkien & Hainnanese. Hope u clear now! TQ
But they are still consider as different dialect. Let me ask you. If someone were to ask you wat ur dialect what would you say. Would you say ur dialect is minnan Or would u say ur dialect is teochew, hookkien, Hainanese. The truth is u would surely say it either teochew hokkien oe hainan.
Can you log in to Beijing University website or Xiamen University or Government Website on demographic on LANGUAGE. They explain in details in Han characters. Go read yrself. Dun b so chauvinistic, we r all part of MinNan peoples.
Like you say they ve been classified into 3 different dialect group. If u had studied the If u ve read about the history of singapore ar various country. In the past people are divided into clans. Like the hokkien clan, teochew clan or even hainan clan. So I find that to a certain extent there is a difference in all the dialect. And we also can't say that jus bcos they are from the same origin so they are the same thing. Minan is only the origin and not wat the dialect is
Teochew are from the same roots originated from Southern Fujian (known as Min Nan or Southern Min). In actual fact Teochew, Hainannese, Hokkien, Taiwanese and Leizhou, Lannang are mutually intelligible. The prestige version of Minnan is Xiamen Version (similar to Taiwanese Language) like in this song. Teochew is consider a dialect of Minnan. Check in the Wikipedia for details.
THen may I ask why do chinese get classfied according to their dialect and not just call themself Min Nan> Why is there a need for people to come out with teochew, hainanese, hokkien. You think wat ur chinese forefather too free nothing to do then come out with so much different dialect ah!
By the way you are a chinese. If I m not wrong. Wikipedia is a western based dictionary isn't it pathetic that a chinese needs to ask a westerner about the meaning and origin of a dialect supposedly from the same race as him.
Yeozonghan....i like the way u make comment. G8 guy. Wikipedia comes in many languages but d information r contributed by sources from d particular countries. If u feel western sources is bias then read the Chinese Language Version or any other language. If not check d other Chinese-based encyclopedia. I know u pro-Teochew. Bet we r "ka ki nang"... :-). There are 49 millions Min Nan peoples worldwide, including us.
I didn't say it would be bias. Wat I mean is that u r of a chinese origin yet u dun even understand ur own dialect well enough. U ve to rely on a western based website to give u ans about ur own origin isn't it pathetic
Yeozonghan - then why u write English here? We ccould always communicate in Mandarin here. So dun refer western website n dun learn their language. Yr explanation is so uncultured. U pis me off!
It Seems that u do not understand that. Wat is pathtic isn't that u r a chinese but u r stil using english. That not pathetic. Wat really is pathetic is u dun understand ur own cultural well enough to noe the differnece between the different language of ur culture and u ve to actually rely on some thing not from ur culture to explain to u wat ur culture and race is all about. Dun u find that pathetic
i have no quarrel with u. u decide wat u wanna believe. as i said, i had explained, but if u dun accept the info sharing then just ignored wat i had said earlier. I have no time for quarrel over such unprofitable issue to me. TQ 4 yr understanding over Min Nan & Teochew issues. i ahd sent detail explanation to yr inbox. I will reply no more to this board.
really ridicule n hilarity,even the Teochew chinese such as YEOZONGHAN,ASANGE,CHAPHT10 n many other r declared TEOCHEW language is not u HOKKIEN,u always ve fake instead of facts
Erm if your dialect is no good pls dun try to be a smart alex, human is lang in hokkien and not ran. Ran is the past tense of run. thank you. Pls ve some respect for other people dialect. Every single dialect ve some of their own vulgar word. So pls dun say that hokkien is rough. Cos in every dialect and language there are peopel who are rough and people who are gentle. Thank you
真好听啊!可能是福建话,谢谢。
Limhonan 1 year ago
這個女生都唱台語歌..這是台灣的文化
馬來西亞/新加坡沒有自己編歌嗎
v8yw 2 years ago
@v8yw
有一些呀.像"世界第一等"就很出名.不過台灣今天是世界上福佬文化的中心及市場,所以很多其他地區的閩南語歌手們,都是模仿台語腔調或者直接唱台語歌曲.
tadpolenese 1 year ago
台語是閩南語的昇華.台語有閩南語沒有的文化跟腔調與歷史..所以台語跟閩南話可以分別的出來..
v8yw 1 year ago
@v8yw
今天福建及南洋的福佬現代音樂文化遠遠不及台灣,從台灣抄襲的屬於多數.但是不要看不起他們.台灣台語音樂昨天還不是東洋日本味道十足,而今天搖身一變有伍佰,江蕙,等等天王天后,唱出原版新作.福建南洋等地的他們很快就會趕上台灣,何況泉州南音佔了閩南語最寶貴的音樂遺產地位.泉州閩南語八調齊全,更是其他福佬語只能忌妒
tadpolenese 1 year ago
世界第一等..作曲是伍佰也是臺灣人
v8yw 1 year ago
@v8yw
我講錯了,我原來想講的是"一百萬".這是新加坡電影"錢不夠用"的主題曲,馬來西亞華裔歌星黃一飛所主唱.這首歌該是純正星馬產品."世界第一等"的劉德華Andy Lau是香港人.不過,兩首歌都還是用台語腔調,因為台語的影響力太強了."一百萬"歌詞有些星馬福佬語專用名詞.
tadpolenese 1 year ago
How old is she now?
et1j12 3 years ago
mei miao!
Eurynomos69 3 years ago
Serhwee must be having wrong medical prescription. S/he cannot distinguish between Hokkien and Teachew song!
chapht10 4 years ago
sorry, it sounds quite similar both hokkien & teochew to me...
limyangyang 4 years ago
Excuse him lah!Minor mistake yes or not? Anyway, he share this beautiful song with us.Must kam siah him, tiok bo tiok.Donit medicine one!
marvic1959 3 years ago
天呀!福建歌说是潮州歌!
asange 4 years ago 3
@asange[吾是]只是有另一首同名的潮洲歌而巳!
19621124mo 8 months ago
This is a hokkien song not a teochew song.
zhiwei50 4 years ago 4
潮州话以至整個闽南语可看作是独立的语言. I belive wat tis mean is 潮州话 and 闽南语 should be consider as a language itself.
Yeozonghan 4 years ago 2
语言系属分类: 汉藏语系 漢語族 閩語支 闽南语 潮州话
Are u trying to say ur dear wikipedia is trying to confuse it self or reader that 闽南语 and潮州话 are two similar and two different thing
Yeozonghan 4 years ago 2
Min Nan, Minnan, or Min-nan (Simplified Chinese: 闽南语; Traditional Chinese: 閩南語; pinyin: Mǐnnányǔ; POJ: Bân-lâm-gú; "Southern Min" or "Southern Fujian" language) refers to a family of Chinese languages/dialects which are spoken in southern Fujian & neighboring areas & by descendants of emigrants from these areas in diaspora.
limyangyang 4 years ago
I used wikipedia to only show that I m not being chauvinistic or wat cos I still noe about my own culture well. By the way when u say we are all MINNAN people do u mean that the People republic of chine make a mistake calling itself china instead of MINNAN or wat. Or u think that the china government do not noe the similarity between chinese and Minnan and the differences between these languages
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
Sory I mean People republic of china not chine
Yeozonghan 4 years ago 2
Language family: Sino-Tibetan Chinese > Mandarin > Beijing, Nanjing dialect Chinese > Min > MIN NAN *** Chinese > Yue > Cantonese Chinese > Wu > Hangzhou, Shanghai
***i.e.(Taiwanese, Amoy, Quanzhoum Zhangzhou, Teochew, Hainanese, Leizhou, Hokkien, Lanang etc)
limyangyang 4 years ago 2
可是,随着全球化的普及,潮州话的母语使用者逐渐减少。受到共同文化和传媒影响,很多原以潮州话为母语的新加坡华裔青少年,都转而说英语、华语和闽南语(与潮州话有些互通)。 From this it only says that 闽南语 ony ve a bit of similarity and not that 闽南语 equal to 潮州话
Yeozonghan 4 years ago 2
In common parlance, Min Nan 閩南語 /闽南语 Bân-lâm-gú -refers 2 Xiamen Speech (or Amoy Language), which is called Taiwanese in Taiwan & Hokkien by residents of Southeast Asia. Amoy is a combination of Quanzhou + Zhangzhou speech. The Min Nan family also includes Teochew & Qiongwen (Hainanese).
limyangyang 4 years ago
由于地理隔绝潮州话发展为独立的方言.潮汕话与闽台片的闽南语有许多相似的地方,但相互之间差别仍旧十分明显。 This is adapted from ur so call trustworthy wikipedia. Did u misinterpret wat it is saying or are u inventing ur own history and making use of wikipedia as a shield.
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
By the way for my own interest only if u dun mind can u give me the full address of both Beijing university and xiamen university and under which column u found ur information so I can go and ve a look jus in case I miss anything out which may make me look ignorant. By the way I enjoy singing Teochew song so mayb I should noe more bout it jus in case lah.
Yeozonghan 4 years ago 3
I hope u r clear now. Cos a lot of thing mayb from the same origin but they are not the same thing. Jus like mayb our forefather r from the same origin china. But do we call ourself china national Or should u be call as the country which u are born in I should be call a singaporean bcos I m born in singapore. I m sure u would not say that u r a chinese national!
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
i think u are a little over re-acting. Chill out and get yourself a teh tarik. \''/
sestar78 4 years ago
It really pathetic. As a chinese you dun even noe what is hokkien and what is teochew. It really an insult to the chinese community. You better dun go around telling people you are a chinese
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
i think u are a little over re-acting. Chill out and get yourself a teh tarik. \''/
sestar78 4 years ago
For some Singaporean, who are brought up in Mandarin Speaking environment, they can't speak Teochew or Hokkien properly. Government stupid policy in Singapore suppressed all dialects. Presently Teochew and Hakka are dying a natural death while Taiwanese/Hokkien and Cantonese survive bcos d availability of mass media like Cable TV, songs, movies, soap operas series etc from Taiwan and Hong Kong. I m very sad many parents r not teaching their kids dialects anymore.
limyangyang 4 years ago
I strongly agree with you. Some Singaporean chinese are pathetic> THey can't understand ther own dialect well yet are capable of speaking english so fluently and yet they are still very pround of being able to speak english well and think that it is a disgrace to speak their own dialect. Luckily I am not one of them and that not all singaporean are like this
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
I believe these dialect maybe from the same origin but you still have to at least be able to differentiate them. For example you are call limyangyang and you ve a brother call imyaya. You both are from the same origin(ur parents) Does it matters to you that people mix the both of you. I m sure ur answer would surely be yes. So pls from the sme origin does not means teochew+=hokkien or hokkien=teochew. ThAHK YOU
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
In actual fact Teochew, Hainannese, Hokkien, Taiwanese and Leizhou, Lannang are all Mutually Intelligible and consider as d DIALECTS OF MINNAN. The "Prestige tongue" of Minnan is Xiamen or AMOY Version (similar to Taiwanese) like in this song. Check from d Wikipedia or other encyclopedia for full details.
limyangyang 4 years ago
Yeozonghan - In MINNAN LANGUAGE root, their dialects r all mutually intelligible. with differences due to geographical separation over time. In South China, MINNAN hv dialects such as Quanzhou, Zhangzhou , Xiamen, Taiwanese; those in Guangdong Province are Diochiu, while in Hainan Island & Leizhous peninsular is Leizhou dialects. In Zhejiang they emigrated from Quanzhou. In Malaysia & Singapore, MINNAN r classified in 3 dialects groups - Teochew, Hokkien & Hainnanese. Hope u clear now! TQ
limyangyang 4 years ago
But they are still consider as different dialect. Let me ask you. If someone were to ask you wat ur dialect what would you say. Would you say ur dialect is minnan Or would u say ur dialect is teochew, hookkien, Hainanese. The truth is u would surely say it either teochew hokkien oe hainan.
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
Can you log in to Beijing University website or Xiamen University or Government Website on demographic on LANGUAGE. They explain in details in Han characters. Go read yrself. Dun b so chauvinistic, we r all part of MinNan peoples.
limyangyang 4 years ago
潮汕话与闽台片的闽南语有许多相似的地方,但相互之间差别仍旧十分明显。 I beleive u can understand the meaning of this sentence.
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
Like you say they ve been classified into 3 different dialect group. If u had studied the If u ve read about the history of singapore ar various country. In the past people are divided into clans. Like the hokkien clan, teochew clan or even hainan clan. So I find that to a certain extent there is a difference in all the dialect. And we also can't say that jus bcos they are from the same origin so they are the same thing. Minan is only the origin and not wat the dialect is
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
我很喜欢你选的歌,音乐好,你唱的更好!!!
meiling077 4 years ago
lol thank you, still a good song, and even if it was diojiu i wouldnt understand it well
MaroSumeragi 4 years ago
T.T y not teochew i wan teochew
dolldoll90 4 years ago
this is hokkien not teochew! human is nang in teochew ran is hokkien. hokkien is much more rough comapred to teochew tone.
beckhammaniac 4 years ago
Teochew are from the same roots originated from Southern Fujian (known as Min Nan or Southern Min). In actual fact Teochew, Hainannese, Hokkien, Taiwanese and Leizhou, Lannang are mutually intelligible. The prestige version of Minnan is Xiamen Version (similar to Taiwanese Language) like in this song. Teochew is consider a dialect of Minnan. Check in the Wikipedia for details.
limyangyang 4 years ago
THen may I ask why do chinese get classfied according to their dialect and not just call themself Min Nan> Why is there a need for people to come out with teochew, hainanese, hokkien. You think wat ur chinese forefather too free nothing to do then come out with so much different dialect ah!
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
By the way you are a chinese. If I m not wrong. Wikipedia is a western based dictionary isn't it pathetic that a chinese needs to ask a westerner about the meaning and origin of a dialect supposedly from the same race as him.
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
Yeozonghan....i like the way u make comment. G8 guy. Wikipedia comes in many languages but d information r contributed by sources from d particular countries. If u feel western sources is bias then read the Chinese Language Version or any other language. If not check d other Chinese-based encyclopedia. I know u pro-Teochew. Bet we r "ka ki nang"... :-). There are 49 millions Min Nan peoples worldwide, including us.
limyangyang 4 years ago
I didn't say it would be bias. Wat I mean is that u r of a chinese origin yet u dun even understand ur own dialect well enough. U ve to rely on a western based website to give u ans about ur own origin isn't it pathetic
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
Yeozonghan - then why u write English here? We ccould always communicate in Mandarin here. So dun refer western website n dun learn their language. Yr explanation is so uncultured. U pis me off!
limyangyang 4 years ago
It Seems that u do not understand that. Wat is pathtic isn't that u r a chinese but u r stil using english. That not pathetic. Wat really is pathetic is u dun understand ur own cultural well enough to noe the differnece between the different language of ur culture and u ve to actually rely on some thing not from ur culture to explain to u wat ur culture and race is all about. Dun u find that pathetic
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
i have no quarrel with u. u decide wat u wanna believe. as i said, i had explained, but if u dun accept the info sharing then just ignored wat i had said earlier. I have no time for quarrel over such unprofitable issue to me. TQ 4 yr understanding over Min Nan & Teochew issues. i ahd sent detail explanation to yr inbox. I will reply no more to this board.
limyangyang 4 years ago 3
really ridicule n hilarity,even the Teochew chinese such as YEOZONGHAN,ASANGE,CHAPHT10 n many other r declared TEOCHEW language is not u HOKKIEN,u always ve fake instead of facts
killvice 4 years ago
Language family: Sino-Tibetan
Chinese > Mandarin > Beijing, Nanjing dialect
Chinese > Min > MIN NAN ***
Chinese > Yue > Cantonese
Chinese > Wu > Hangzhou, Shanghai
***i.e.(Taiwanese, Amoy, Quanzhoum Zhangzhou, Teochew, Hainanese, Leizhou, Hokkien, Lanang etc)
Check in Wikipedia, Britannica
limyangyang 4 years ago
stupid Wikipedia,Britannica,just wasting my time
killvice 4 years ago
why u jealous i listen to hokkien or teochew songs? u Hakka exrtremist from the jungle!
limyangyang 4 years ago
Teochew and Hokkien (or the Xiamen variant of Minnan) are quite closely related, but they are not identical
doggy5 3 years ago
i am teochew, but i cant freakin understand hokkien, we are not hokkien, end of story
dumdidolabumbuladido 3 years ago
Erm if your dialect is no good pls dun try to be a smart alex, human is lang in hokkien and not ran. Ran is the past tense of run. thank you. Pls ve some respect for other people dialect. Every single dialect ve some of their own vulgar word. So pls dun say that hokkien is rough. Cos in every dialect and language there are peopel who are rough and people who are gentle. Thank you
Yeozonghan 4 years ago
ran is human??
nang is human!!
ga gi nang.
zhonghua2006 5 years ago
Ya lor, the new generation cannot differentiate Teochew and Hokkien.
toinh5 5 years ago
hey, this is not teo chew...it's hokkian ~ aiyo
shyneboi 5 years ago