He completely negates the DNA profile which indicates physical appearance quite clearly and many markers line up with our own. Rape? Maybe.............however he claims a lack of archaeological data while simultaneously flying in the face of all archaeological data.
The image of humans against neanderthal with humans finally winning is already outdated. Humans and neanderthals interbred and the ultimate winner was the human/neanderthal hybrid. The hybrid was better than either parent. The emergence of the human/neanderthal hybrid gave the species 20 more IQ points and marks the beginning of the neolithic era. We soon see the beginning of agriculture, metallurgy, writing, math and later flights to the moon.
Yeah, they were just primates... with DNA that's 99.5% similar to our own, and the fact that it's been confirmed that there was some breeding between humans and neanderthals.
Probably the worst problem... Some 100+ Neanderthals hunt us down to 50 guys AND THEY OWN THE NIGHT, and then we come back and wipe them off the planet.... Try thinking about that for five minutes and see if you can't figure out what's wrong with it.
I mean, you've made several amazingly good catches here but the narrative you're trying to tell is an evolutionite fairytale.
1) Humans learned to use better more advanced weapons (like throwing spears). This met that they could avoid close combat.
2) Neanderthals lived in small clans far away from other small clans. Humans lived in larger groups and had many connections with other clans, meaning they could join forces to fight a small clan of N's.
Too-genetically-remote-to-be-ancestral-to is a transitive relationship. The neanderthal has been ruled out as a plausible ancestor to modern man for that reason (dna studies). What evolutionites are refusing to face is that all other hominids were MORE remote from us THAN the neanderthal; if the neanderthal could not be ancestral to us, NONE of them could be.
Try a google search on "basic non evolution of modern man"
Why would they have sex with humans? If humans were prey animals, they wouldn't even recognise them as females, in the same way a human doesn't find a chimp erotic. Theories suggest we mated with them, infact our 2-4% of neanderthal DNA proves that, if they were so visually shocking and alien, there is no way that would have happened voluntarily, and no way such a visually different creature would view humans in a sexual manner. It would be like a gorilla raping a human female.
Bollox bollox bollox. If they ate meat why did they not have meateaters teeth? If they had fur why did they use fire and have clothing? Where is the evidence that they attacked humans? If they were so tough how come they were suddenly wiped out on contact with modern man? How come cromagnon man hunted so many beasts to extinction that prospered in neanderthal times if they were such a super predator?
a) They never needed canines, cuz their teeth were hard enough to chew meat.
b) There is no absolute evidence of neanderthals using clothing.
c) Humans had their intelligence as an advantage. For example neanderthals could not throw their spears, but humans could. This gives an certain advantage in a battle.
So you actually believe this crackpot theory. Yes humans did later have a huge advantage, which is why they won. What I dont believe is the stuff before that. People now know that the neanderthal had a protuberant nose, based on its skull structure. Ns didnt evolve in exclusively ice age climate, and used fire and shelter, so its unlikely that they would have had any fur at all. This book is just sensationalist garbage with fanciful flimsy speculation.
@gunninlinguist I do not completely believe this theory. Yes, I do agree that Neanderthals had a more human like nose and I do think that eyes that glow in the dark is unlikely. What I do agree with this theory is the fact that Neanderthals used to hunt us. Also about the body fur. Back then nothing could survive in ice age europe without fur or clothing and there is no archeological evidence of N's using clothing.
Thing is Neanerthal at point in time had an advantage over modern humans. As I said, even 70K years ago we have evidence that of fatal attacks by archaic homo sapiens. We know that Neanderthals were cannibilised, quite possibly by humans, and we know that they rapidly died out right from 1st contact. At what point could they have been hunting and killing humans who were also clearly vastly more efficienct jusging by their effect on the animal kingdom?
Also neanderthals were known to wear ornaments and bury their dead, and use animal hide for blankets. They were far from mindless savages but they werent super predators either. They didnt wipe out any megafauna like we did. They also also seemed to adopt human culture, which again points to humans being the dominant social group.
According to him, pretty much every aspect of human physical structure and behaviour comes from "Neanderthal Predation." To say its simplifying history would be giving it too much credit. Theres no evidence of N aggression towards humans at all, but there is evidence of humans fatally attacking Ns right from 1st contact (unhealed projectile spear wounds found in a N skeleton in Israel ca. 70K yo). This book was never peer reviewed for a reason its tosh.
Unfortunately for this author, the study of Homo Neandertalensis is going in exactly the opposite direction to this entertaining, if scientifically illiterate, thesis. Why add more pseudoscientific nonsense to the vast lakes of bilge and dreck that already exist?
What this guy neglects to realize is Neanderthal unlike monkeys, chimps, gorillas, etc, had a nose bridge which means its nose stuck out from his face like humans.
@GeneHeim1 Well IMO only, The skull is bigger than modern humans which means when compared to a human skull their eye sockets would be higher & possibly bigger. However apes such as gorillas, Chimps also have large eye sockets but their eyes are small. As far as body hair, well humans lost their body hair long before Neanderthal so more than likely they wouldn't have any as they were completely human thus the name Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis.
@buffyjosmom Well, you would inspect that their eyes would be higher up cuz they barely had a forehead and if you scale the skull of a Neanderthal to the same size as a human skull ( 03:41 ) the eyes are still larger.
@GeneHeim1 because hairlessness is an adaptation to endurance running - although neanderthals would not have persistence hunted in their European environments, there ancestors Homo heidelbergensis would have in Africa, therefore they would have inherited the derived feature of hairlessness among many other endurance running adaptations.
@EddyWillyJimmy The problem with being hairless in ice age europe is that you cant freaking survive the cold. The only way you could survive in a such cold climate is that you needed to have body fur or advanced clothing. There is no archeological evidence of Neanderthals using clothing, so the only way they could survive was to be covered in body fur.
Why does he profile the neanderthal skull with a chimpanzee's HEAD and not the skull ? Answer = google. They are nothing alike. Such psudeo gick.
"I commissioned one of the worlds best digital sculptures"
"after several months and hunderds of emails and phone calls a creature gradually emerged" I can picture it now. Email no.1. Dan "no arturo, its still to human" Email 100. "its STILL to human. Email 200 Arturo "It cant be done dan" Email 200 somtin Dan "Just make it up ive a book to sell damit"
@YamaKazoo... you're grasp of vocabulary is not so good friend... manufacture=the production of a natural substance by a living thing.. you can try and insult me all you want; it only proves your frustration at clinging to "common theory"..
@younwhosarmy Is this a spelling test ? no ? Then take a hike.
STILL you got it wrong. Neanderthals tailored their cloths not "draped" themselves in them. The flute is a real item found with them, meaning it was them who used and made it. To further prove that this chap gave half a brain sell to his theory why is the hair black and not white like most artic creatures ? No thought gone into it thats why. fkn ancient aliens hahahahah, get
There's a sure-fire way to prove (or dis-prove) this theory.
CLONE a Neanderthal, and see for ourselves what it looks/acts like. I've read that the Neanderthal genome has been sequenced, so we just might see a clone within the next 30 years. It would probably have to spend its life behind bars, unfortunately.
Assuming that we can clone them, what if some nation or corporation decided they wanted an army of Neanderthal soldiers, or manual laborers? We might see "Planet of The Apes" for real...
this theory makes a lot of sense considering all he is saying is that they probably didn't have the same body hair density and soft-tissue structures we do. everything else he says is verifiable fact.
@MrMichaelboy12 ... true.. funny how people get all bent out of shape when a common theory is challenged.. next thing you know they are slinging insults, and cursing.. People are sooo close minded it makes me wonder how we will ever progress as a species...
This is interesting but over all ridiculous. They dont have sharp teeth, they wore close, used tools, and a musical instrument (Bone flute) is claimed to be neanthertal made. Never mind the 1-4 % dna thing.
@younwhosarmy whats the fkn difference ?? Both are fashioned items made from things from the enviroment and placed around the body to keep warm. lol. "never heard of the bone flute" i reckon theres a lot of things you havent heard.
@YamaKazoo ..no need to get all bent out of shape !! the difference is clothes are manufactured, and take more time and foresight to create.. ...and listen carefully now Kazoo.. just because someone found a bone flute with some Neanderthal bones DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS CREATED BY NEANDERTHAL... now go take a cold shower, and calm the FcK down !!
@younwhosarmy + why the fk would a species evolved to be naturally hairy to suit its environment need to wear fur in the feckin first place ?? This guys ideas are bogus. But never mind that, by the book.
@YamaKazoo .. the reason they draped furs across their broad hairy backs is because of the incredibly EXTREME TEMPERATURES.!! it was an ICE AGE!! they EVOLVED in a very extremely cold environment... we evolved in sub-Saharan Africa a relatively mild climate.. These facts are indisputable. but you can continue to think of them as people if it makes you sleep better at night..
@younwhosarmy The idea that neanderthals were primitve beasts is outdated and from the early 20th century. The most commonly held theory is that they were highly intellegent and a lot like us. They buried their dead, used make up, wore jewellery, played music. "DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS CREATED BY NEANDERTHAL" bullshit. And the biggest clincher of all that they were VERY similar to us is that most modern humans have 1-4 % of their dna. Different species can not interbreed.
Perhaps the Neanderthal hypothesis is a good guess, but the truth is that nobody knows a thing and think that when they piece together their own hypothesis it's correct. It may be correct but shouldn't go into history books unless there's absolute undeniable proof. We're all just a bunch of different kind of freakin monkies. Deal with it.
I'm not buying it. Native Americans didn't come from Africa. Everyone creates these hypothesis that suggests that the Native American's simply barged into the American continent through the ice bridge from Russia to Alaska and within that time we built all of these things from South America to Alaska within that time. The Bering Straights theory is incorrect. I support the hypothesis of a "super continent" splitting and the Native Americans came with America during the split.
@Animikiiasin Jesus !! Native asians weren't even the 1st people here.. the Solutreans were here over 2 thousand years earlier !! They came from Europe.. on skin boats...
@younwhosarmy What kind of supporting details and fact do you have to back your statement? Archaeology has made some great discoveries; however, archaeology is a progression and will continue to make new discoveries. The only problem with archaeology is that it's biased. If a discovery is made that contradicts either a published history book or the bible it's thrown away or the facts about the discovery are changed to fit a modern hypothesis.
@RBinvader ... thanks, i watched it.. Suffice to say it is ripe with Anthropomorphizing... at least they admit they use muscle and fat measurements from an average modern European.. Glue manufacture is likely much harder in the laboratory. No doubt Neanderthal was an intelligent creature...
Neanderthals are primates, so should look more,like primates? Funny thing, modern humans ARE ALSO PRIMATES! True Neanderthal evolution happened mostly in Europe/Asia, while modern humans evolved in Africa: but from what stock did Neanderthal evolve from? Was it from the prolific and successful species Homo erectus? Does this suggest that Homo erectus also looked more like other primates and less like members of the genus Homo? So when exactly do the traits associated with genus Homo appear?
the part of cannibalistic behavior was proved to happen because of lack of food , at the end of the era of neanderthal , when cro-magnon and neanderthal were hunting for the same prey and thus caused food "prey" to be scarce/
unless planet of the apes happened in real life , the part of leaving the structure of the body so primitive with the proof of tool and cultural behavior so complex still does not fit quite well.
what about the countless tools and artifacts and complex life stiles in groups , and buried their dead, had fire etc... and in other studies had been proved that their frontal lobe witch is for cognitive thinking is just as large as modern human.
@RBinvader is it so hard to believe that a primate looking apeman had those skills.. They wore skins but did not sew.. "countless"? maybe 20 tools... Chimpanzees make tools..
@younwhosarmy what i meant by countless is the amount of tools accumulated are in sites, not the diversity of them, even the elaborate way they made pitch to make glue is a complicated task, evidence of hardware like "needles" for sewing is lacking due to the materials they were made with , wood bone etc..
@younwhosarmy and Chimps make only RAW tools like a stone for clubbing , a stick for reach, last time i checked they are not making stone flints and making wood pitch, and most important, have the ability to "speak" . I do not refute some aspects of the theory , but the whole picture does not fit the general accounts and fisical evidence.
@younwhosarmy Chimps also make spears by sharpening sticks with their teeth, and then stabbing them into tree hollows to impale (and then eat) bush babies.
So, why not a ape-looking, stone-blade-using hominid with comparable tactical/concrete intelligence to ourselves (but not our imagination or creativity?)
FWIW, I read somewhere that the human susceptibility to schizophrenia and mental quirks, may also be associated with genius and creativity. We may be more unique among animals than we think.
@younwhosarmy I also read somewhere (yeah I know I can't cite my sources off the top of my head, but I DID read it!) that Neanderthal's toolkit showed very little change/innovation over a period of 100,000 years.
Also, what might be called "art" (crude art at that) doesn't appear among items associated with Neanderthals until well after 40K years ago (at a time when they were facing competition from humans, and presumably losing.) "Can't beat 'em, imitate 'em" was their game maybe?
@bjggjb ... this whole topic is very interesting.. i think Danny's theory is mostly correct.. however i think he pushes the Neanderthal Predation effect on our evolution a bit too far; since the African race is the same on many of his points.. and presumably they were not preyed upon and raped by Neanderthals.. that part doesn't explain as much of our evolution as he would like.. but no doubt he has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Science has presented
@jimmykinkade As well as ogres/trolls, and other such legends. And what do ogres/trolls do in these legends? They kidnap (and sometimes eat) human women and children! It's easy to see how such legends could become distorted/magnified over a period of 28,000 years (i.e., Neanderthal becoming the gigantic, hairy, loathsome Grendel and his mother.)
It is interesting that most such legends are from northern Europe, where isolated enclaves of Neanderthals may have held out the longest.
personally i dont think neanderthal's actually went extinct, i would think years cross breeding between them and cromagnon's( modern humans) would be connected to some of the diverse genetic races of todays world. just speaking freely, i could be wrong, though it is a possiblity.
Your ignorance as to the fearer races having 1-4% neanderthal DNA is astounding. Crowmagnon is where in this,or do you think that they were homo sapien.Denisovan DNA is also found in modern humans,up to 10% in some of the Melinisian races.The eyes of your model are not what is expected,& the ape like forward slouch is also incorrect.Check where the spine joins the skull,& instead of comparing a profile silouet,try a chimp skull.You are a ignorant fool.Do some real research & get it right
This is nonsense, Neanderthals wore clothing, made fire, spears, glue etc. These behaviours are NOT found in any other primate except us. In addition, the fact they had the foxp2 gene (language) and the DNA contribution being FAR TOO HIGH to have RAPE as an explanation - means the general consensus is built on the fact they were more like us, than other primates.
Also the skull comparison you showed was flawed. You angled the skull to make it appear more protruding, when in fact they are as vertical as ours. Also, the faces were larger, but the proportions were similar. The eyes were not high, but the forehead was more sloping, giving the illusion that their eyes were higher. Also, cro-magnon skulls were bigger than modern humans too.
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Saw neanderthal bones up close at the Museum of Natural History. They were extremely robust and the eyesockets were huge. Definately a nasty looking being, I'd hate to meet one in the forest. They weren't very fast runners, maybe that is why we survived. Having sex with a neanderthal is totally unthinkable. The neanderthal DNA that some humans have today must be results of rape. Oh, what a terrible thought!
Sounds dubious to me, humans and neanderthals shared a very close common ancestor (most likely Homo heidelbergensis) and chimp and neanderthal skulls are almost nothing alike. The only similarity I can see is the prognathism (jutting jaw) but that's much larger in chimpanzees. Neanderthals are as distantly related to chimpanzees as humans are. And all the stuff about neanderthal males being evil rapists is just another way of anthropomorphisizing neanderthals.
I wanted to be a biologist when i was a kid ,, but i ended up with a degree in Mechanical engineering ... but always held the passion for biology and always kept up with the latest documentaries the best i could ..from the very first depiction they made on TV i was felt they were wrong ...i too think they looked more ape like ...BUT JUST ONE MORE INCLUSION IN TO YOUR VERSION I CAN MAKE IS THAT ..I THINK THEIR HAIR WAS WHITE ,,LIKE POLAR BEARS AND CAVE LIONS TO BLEND WITH SNOW
@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK good point.....even with all the truth comming out about neanderthal man in the last 2 years mainstream scholars still seem like theyre trying sooooo hard to make the "out of africa" theory fit in with the new findings....
honestly tho, it looks like neanderthal was an untouched human race that over took the incomming african sapiens and resulted in a VERY intelligent race of WHITE BLUE EYED NEANDERTHAL SAPIEN hybrids....
@MyBelowme Indeed. In fact, recent news has pointed out that Homo Sapien females were attracted to Neanderthal men for basically being superior in every way, especially including how much smarter they were.
@Aodanful That would be due to the fact they are hominids(sort of) which probably evolved from homo-erectus who had lost their primate fangs long time ago. Neanderthals also probably used their tools to grind or cook their meat. But studies show that they had far stronger and more powerful teeth then modern humans.
@Aodanful We humans have turned out to be the most efficient predators that have ever existed - and we also lack predatory teeth. Who's to say that the Neanderthals didn't use sharpened flints, clubs ect. to make up for their lack of sharp canines? Weapons use and pack tactics PLUS having five times the strength of a modern human bodybuilder would make for an absolutely fearsome predator IMHO.
@Aodanful Homo Erectus was using fire about 1.4 million years ago (pre-dating Neanderthal) and COOKED meat doesn't require big, sharp teeth (in addition to tasting one hell of a lot better, than it does raw.) So much for Neanderthals needing "predatory teeth" to be predators... they were cooks as well as hunters.
I also don't buy the idea that we fear the dark and predators because of neanderthals. Predators of all types tend to hunt at night, as he says. So this suggests that our primal fears go back much much further and have been reinforced by selective pressure since our ancestors were shrew-like if not before.
Yeah, I'm going to call shenanigans on this. The features that define us, high intelligence, symbolic thinking and gracile facial features first showed up in africa, so how could pressure/genes from neanderthals cause them? Furthermore why would they even want to fuck our women? and the dna non-africans share with neanderthals is far too little to be the result of the widespread mating this man suggests. And on an evolutionary scale, 500,000 years is not that long.
@TheRealEricLester i bet you cro magnon women were 100x more attractive than hairy neanderthal women. my guess is that neanderthals were like trolls, kind of slow but brutally strong and i personally doubt that their large brain and primitive burial rituals are indicative of much intelligence. they probably hid under bridges and grabbed for ankles too
@TheRealEricLester Man I could tear apart your silly little comment. Except I'm afraid you'd go into a caveman rage and rip me to shreds with your brutish paws. You're way too pro-Neanderthal...just accept that we kicked their dirty stinking monkey asses and now they're rotting face down in shallow graves and no amount of sympathy is gonna bring them back!
@TheRealEricLester Africans do not have high intelligence or gracile facial features. If you disagree are you able to cite a pure blooded African that possesses such features?
@HyperboreanSoil On average they all do. But I suppose you have evidence to the contrary? Do you have trouble distinguishing African sapiens skulls from those of H. Erectus or ergastor?
@TheRealEricLester Sub-Saharan African features are much less gracile than Nothern European features. The average African IQ is on average 35 points lower than the Northern European. African Skulls are also much thicker, wider, and demonstrate severe prognathism when compared to Northern European Skulls.
African skulls demonstrate a lot of similarities with neanderthal skulls.
@HyperboreanSoil Yeah totally, the Ju-/huansi look just like neanderthals. /sarcasm. You seem to have read too many "fun nigger fact" macros to have a coherant conversation about this.
@HyperboreanSoil But can IQ tests designed by western whites for western whites, accurately measure the IQ of sub-Saharan Africans? There are cultural differences that probably need to be taken into account.
FWIW - when I was in the military, some of the dumbest people I worked and lived with were white, and some of the smartest were black (not to say that idiots didn't come in all colors.)
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@nitramletnan ... Then you are like the majority of people in the World today... Closed minded.. Resistant to change.. Science continually resists any new information that challenges the The long accepted theory.. or the "theorehtical" timeline of Human Origins.. Danny's theory has consistently been proved accurate as new evidence is revealed.. i believe he will inevitably be Vindicated from people like you.. ... no offense ;)
@Dansthoughts I think I read somewhere, that scientists have sequenced most (or all) of the Neanderthal genome... so maybe we'll all get to see a cloned Neanderthal in our lifetimes.
If this "super-predator" theory turns out to be vindicated by a cloned specimen... it sure will be interesting to see how the politically correct, scientific spin doctors who are trying to depict Neanderthals as a bunch of nice, peaceable saints will react!
I agree that they probably didn't look like us necessarily, but one flaw... we are primates too and you keep inferring that we aren't primates but that the Neanderthals were.
this video has waaayy too many speculations and leaps. one is saying just because they were primates they had to be hairy. guess what so are homo sapiens but we are not covered in hair. ancient homonids started losing their hair millions of years ago.
So bigfoot/yeti sightings all over the world (mostly in the northern hemisphere) could be subconscious memories of this predator? Or remaining pockets?
@idmars10 ... Right one or the other.... maybe both !!! if a remnant population survived they would have the instinct to avoid humans.. and continued evolution may have resulted in a varied diet.. the lack of fire making, and weapon manufacture; may be the result of lost skills.. Skills that were taught and learned can be lost and forgotten.. Who knows.. it's fun to imagine big foot exists.. perhaps they do !!
I have always thought (or the past 30 years) that modern H. sapien would be to the Neanderthal like todays modern elephant would be to the wooly mammoth. I totally agree that Neanderthals would have been hairy (very thick hair). I read "The Origin of Species" in middle school. I think Darwin would have agreed. I don't agree with anyone that Homo sapien interbreed with the Neanderthal. There must have been an unidentified subspecies in the middle east that bred with sapien when we left Africa.
The last thing I'd ever trust a zBrush-wielding artist with is a "scientific" reconstruction. I should know - I use zBrush, the software shown in use for Danny's reconstructed monster. It's a purely artistic tool in the hands of anyone except a highly qualified reconstructive scientist, which a digital artist is NOT.
While some of these theories are exciting, none of them seem to hold much traction in the face of current fossil knowledge or research. I'm entertained but not convinced.
I'm a middle aged uneducated (well primary and secondary educated) man who has always had an interest in pre - history and find this theory about neanderthal man to be really fantastic, I'm dying to read the book as this wee 15 minute vid has me gripped, I'm so far unable to track down a copy of the book even on ebay, does anyone know where I can get a copy?
Excellent work, Vini! The oldest Y chromosome, passed on by males is only about 45ky old. It matches your theory of Levantine men spreading across the planet. Soon the neaderthal will be cloned and we ll get to see the face of the monster. Throwing weapons turned the table on them, and as you said, these appear first time in the Levant. They failed because they were carnivore, thus their population was too small to compete with omnivores with throwing weapons (us). And we could outrun them.
@PatriotRadioMilitia It's "you're". I don't need to prove it to you. You just have to google Homo Sapien and you'll find that its order is primate, ffs.
@TemplarX2 google i t? thats all you got ? evolutionist have no proof your a soulless monkey but there are 3 major races and being that neanderthal was not a cave man and he had Oneg blood you and your google fail to prove where rh negative came out of a monkey .
@TemplarX2 NO I AM not religious at all . see you dont know shit . and yes i can communicate with prayer , what i have seen you will not until you die.
wouldn't most of your evidence point Neanderthal to the more human and modern man towards the ape dominant??And if they were black then why the hell are there white people in the world? im not trying to discredit you evidence but ive literaly been studying this all day and your 15 min video just turned everything upside down.
He completely negates the DNA profile which indicates physical appearance quite clearly and many markers line up with our own. Rape? Maybe.............however he claims a lack of archaeological data while simultaneously flying in the face of all archaeological data.
MorBryAn 6 hours ago
The people who find this to be scientific also likely believe in the Dinosauroid
MorBryAn 6 hours ago
This is such an interesting theory that does make sense in some areas. But this is just a theory.
You can easily prove me and Danny Vendramini wrong if you give me good evidence.
Joakim1400 12 hours ago
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The image of humans against neanderthal with humans finally winning is already outdated. Humans and neanderthals interbred and the ultimate winner was the human/neanderthal hybrid. The hybrid was better than either parent. The emergence of the human/neanderthal hybrid gave the species 20 more IQ points and marks the beginning of the neolithic era. We soon see the beginning of agriculture, metallurgy, writing, math and later flights to the moon.
anywayokey 15 hours ago
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anywayokey 15 hours ago
Yeah, they were just primates... with DNA that's 99.5% similar to our own, and the fact that it's been confirmed that there was some breeding between humans and neanderthals.
PukaMan 1 day ago
@PukaMan He never said that Neanderthals didn't mate with humans.
Joakim1400 13 hours ago
Probably the worst problem... Some 100+ Neanderthals hunt us down to 50 guys AND THEY OWN THE NIGHT, and then we come back and wipe them off the planet.... Try thinking about that for five minutes and see if you can't figure out what's wrong with it.
I mean, you've made several amazingly good catches here but the narrative you're trying to tell is an evolutionite fairytale.
icebear1946 6 days ago
@icebear1946
1) Humans learned to use better more advanced weapons (like throwing spears). This met that they could avoid close combat.
2) Neanderthals lived in small clans far away from other small clans. Humans lived in larger groups and had many connections with other clans, meaning they could join forces to fight a small clan of N's.
Joakim1400 1 day ago
BULLSHIT
EddyWillyJimmy 1 week ago
Too-genetically-remote-to-be-ancestral-to is a transitive relationship. The neanderthal has been ruled out as a plausible ancestor to modern man for that reason (dna studies). What evolutionites are refusing to face is that all other hominids were MORE remote from us THAN the neanderthal; if the neanderthal could not be ancestral to us, NONE of them could be.
Try a google search on "basic non evolution of modern man"
icebear1946 1 week ago
aww how cute I want one!
elnino559 1 week ago
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elnino559 1 week ago
Why would they have sex with humans? If humans were prey animals, they wouldn't even recognise them as females, in the same way a human doesn't find a chimp erotic. Theories suggest we mated with them, infact our 2-4% of neanderthal DNA proves that, if they were so visually shocking and alien, there is no way that would have happened voluntarily, and no way such a visually different creature would view humans in a sexual manner. It would be like a gorilla raping a human female.
AkamuSlayer 1 week ago
@AkamuSlayer Human beings and other animals practice Interspecies sex. Mules are a perfect example of this kind of event.
If a proto-human female was in estrus why wouldn't a closely related Neanderthal male at least be interested?
GeneHeim1 1 week ago
"Profile of a Super Predator",
Sounds like my mother-in-law !
mocksession 1 week ago
Bollox bollox bollox. If they ate meat why did they not have meateaters teeth? If they had fur why did they use fire and have clothing? Where is the evidence that they attacked humans? If they were so tough how come they were suddenly wiped out on contact with modern man? How come cromagnon man hunted so many beasts to extinction that prospered in neanderthal times if they were such a super predator?
gunninlinguist 1 week ago
@gunninlinguist
a) They never needed canines, cuz their teeth were hard enough to chew meat.
b) There is no absolute evidence of neanderthals using clothing.
c) Humans had their intelligence as an advantage. For example neanderthals could not throw their spears, but humans could. This gives an certain advantage in a battle.
Joakim1400 1 week ago
@Joakim1400
So you actually believe this crackpot theory. Yes humans did later have a huge advantage, which is why they won. What I dont believe is the stuff before that. People now know that the neanderthal had a protuberant nose, based on its skull structure. Ns didnt evolve in exclusively ice age climate, and used fire and shelter, so its unlikely that they would have had any fur at all. This book is just sensationalist garbage with fanciful flimsy speculation.
gunninlinguist 1 week ago
@gunninlinguist I do not completely believe this theory. Yes, I do agree that Neanderthals had a more human like nose and I do think that eyes that glow in the dark is unlikely. What I do agree with this theory is the fact that Neanderthals used to hunt us. Also about the body fur. Back then nothing could survive in ice age europe without fur or clothing and there is no archeological evidence of N's using clothing.
Joakim1400 1 week ago
@Joakim1400
Thing is Neanerthal at point in time had an advantage over modern humans. As I said, even 70K years ago we have evidence that of fatal attacks by archaic homo sapiens. We know that Neanderthals were cannibilised, quite possibly by humans, and we know that they rapidly died out right from 1st contact. At what point could they have been hunting and killing humans who were also clearly vastly more efficienct jusging by their effect on the animal kingdom?
gunninlinguist 1 week ago
@Joakim1400
Also neanderthals were known to wear ornaments and bury their dead, and use animal hide for blankets. They were far from mindless savages but they werent super predators either. They didnt wipe out any megafauna like we did. They also also seemed to adopt human culture, which again points to humans being the dominant social group.
gunninlinguist 1 week ago
@Joakim1400
According to him, pretty much every aspect of human physical structure and behaviour comes from "Neanderthal Predation." To say its simplifying history would be giving it too much credit. Theres no evidence of N aggression towards humans at all, but there is evidence of humans fatally attacking Ns right from 1st contact (unhealed projectile spear wounds found in a N skeleton in Israel ca. 70K yo). This book was never peer reviewed for a reason its tosh.
gunninlinguist 1 week ago
....you must be tripping on meth to even think this is true,
krunner101 2 weeks ago
Good Lord that was terrible. XD
GerSHAK 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately for this author, the study of Homo Neandertalensis is going in exactly the opposite direction to this entertaining, if scientifically illiterate, thesis. Why add more pseudoscientific nonsense to the vast lakes of bilge and dreck that already exist?
Sharkpuss 1 month ago
What this guy neglects to realize is Neanderthal unlike monkeys, chimps, gorillas, etc, had a nose bridge which means its nose stuck out from his face like humans.
buffyjosmom 1 month ago 10
@buffyjosmom Which is fine... what of body hair, location of the eyes and size of the eyes?
Vendriamini is correct in some ways. Why do conventional Neanderthal recreations have no body hair?
GeneHeim1 1 week ago
@GeneHeim1 Well IMO only, The skull is bigger than modern humans which means when compared to a human skull their eye sockets would be higher & possibly bigger. However apes such as gorillas, Chimps also have large eye sockets but their eyes are small. As far as body hair, well humans lost their body hair long before Neanderthal so more than likely they wouldn't have any as they were completely human thus the name Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis.
buffyjosmom 6 days ago
@buffyjosmom Well, you would inspect that their eyes would be higher up cuz they barely had a forehead and if you scale the skull of a Neanderthal to the same size as a human skull ( 03:41 ) the eyes are still larger.
Joakim1400 12 hours ago
@GeneHeim1 because hairlessness is an adaptation to endurance running - although neanderthals would not have persistence hunted in their European environments, there ancestors Homo heidelbergensis would have in Africa, therefore they would have inherited the derived feature of hairlessness among many other endurance running adaptations.
EddyWillyJimmy 4 days ago
@EddyWillyJimmy The problem with being hairless in ice age europe is that you cant freaking survive the cold. The only way you could survive in a such cold climate is that you needed to have body fur or advanced clothing. There is no archeological evidence of Neanderthals using clothing, so the only way they could survive was to be covered in body fur.
Joakim1400 1 day ago
The skull comparison to a chimp was a joke.
"They seem to fit amazingly well" What?
I wouldn't buy that pseudo science book at a yard sale.
DaddyOD13 1 month ago 8
This man is completely insane, wouldn't touch his book with a ten foot pole.
buffyjosmom 1 month ago 2
Why does he profile the neanderthal skull with a chimpanzee's HEAD and not the skull ? Answer = google. They are nothing alike. Such psudeo gick.
"I commissioned one of the worlds best digital sculptures"
"after several months and hunderds of emails and phone calls a creature gradually emerged" I can picture it now. Email no.1. Dan "no arturo, its still to human" Email 100. "its STILL to human. Email 200 Arturo "It cant be done dan" Email 200 somtin Dan "Just make it up ive a book to sell damit"
YamaKazoo 1 month ago 5
@YamaKazoo... you're grasp of vocabulary is not so good friend... manufacture=the production of a natural substance by a living thing.. you can try and insult me all you want; it only proves your frustration at clinging to "common theory"..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy Is this a spelling test ? no ? Then take a hike.
STILL you got it wrong. Neanderthals tailored their cloths not "draped" themselves in them. The flute is a real item found with them, meaning it was them who used and made it. To further prove that this chap gave half a brain sell to his theory why is the hair black and not white like most artic creatures ? No thought gone into it thats why. fkn ancient aliens hahahahah, get
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younwhosarmy 1 month ago
There's a sure-fire way to prove (or dis-prove) this theory.
CLONE a Neanderthal, and see for ourselves what it looks/acts like. I've read that the Neanderthal genome has been sequenced, so we just might see a clone within the next 30 years. It would probably have to spend its life behind bars, unfortunately.
Assuming that we can clone them, what if some nation or corporation decided they wanted an army of Neanderthal soldiers, or manual laborers? We might see "Planet of The Apes" for real...
bjggjb 1 month ago
this theory makes a lot of sense considering all he is saying is that they probably didn't have the same body hair density and soft-tissue structures we do. everything else he says is verifiable fact.
MrMichaelboy12 1 month ago
@MrMichaelboy12 ... true.. funny how people get all bent out of shape when a common theory is challenged.. next thing you know they are slinging insults, and cursing.. People are sooo close minded it makes me wonder how we will ever progress as a species...
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
This is interesting but over all ridiculous. They dont have sharp teeth, they wore close, used tools, and a musical instrument (Bone flute) is claimed to be neanthertal made. Never mind the 1-4 % dna thing.
YamaKazoo 1 month ago
@YamaKazoo ..they wore furs NOT clothes.. never heard of the bone flute.. but seriously... they could have taken it from one of their victims..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy whats the fkn difference ?? Both are fashioned items made from things from the enviroment and placed around the body to keep warm. lol. "never heard of the bone flute" i reckon theres a lot of things you havent heard.
YamaKazoo 1 month ago
@YamaKazoo ..no need to get all bent out of shape !! the difference is clothes are manufactured, and take more time and foresight to create.. ...and listen carefully now Kazoo.. just because someone found a bone flute with some Neanderthal bones DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS CREATED BY NEANDERTHAL... now go take a cold shower, and calm the FcK down !!
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy + why the fk would a species evolved to be naturally hairy to suit its environment need to wear fur in the feckin first place ?? This guys ideas are bogus. But never mind that, by the book.
YamaKazoo 1 month ago
@YamaKazoo .. the reason they draped furs across their broad hairy backs is because of the incredibly EXTREME TEMPERATURES.!! it was an ICE AGE!! they EVOLVED in a very extremely cold environment... we evolved in sub-Saharan Africa a relatively mild climate.. These facts are indisputable. but you can continue to think of them as people if it makes you sleep better at night..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy The idea that neanderthals were primitve beasts is outdated and from the early 20th century. The most commonly held theory is that they were highly intellegent and a lot like us. They buried their dead, used make up, wore jewellery, played music. "DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS CREATED BY NEANDERTHAL" bullshit. And the biggest clincher of all that they were VERY similar to us is that most modern humans have 1-4 % of their dna. Different species can not interbreed.
YamaKazoo 1 month ago
Perhaps the Neanderthal hypothesis is a good guess, but the truth is that nobody knows a thing and think that when they piece together their own hypothesis it's correct. It may be correct but shouldn't go into history books unless there's absolute undeniable proof. We're all just a bunch of different kind of freakin monkies. Deal with it.
Animikiiasin 1 month ago
I'm not buying it. Native Americans didn't come from Africa. Everyone creates these hypothesis that suggests that the Native American's simply barged into the American continent through the ice bridge from Russia to Alaska and within that time we built all of these things from South America to Alaska within that time. The Bering Straights theory is incorrect. I support the hypothesis of a "super continent" splitting and the Native Americans came with America during the split.
Animikiiasin 1 month ago
@Animikiiasin Jesus !! Native asians weren't even the 1st people here.. the Solutreans were here over 2 thousand years earlier !! They came from Europe.. on skin boats...
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy What kind of supporting details and fact do you have to back your statement? Archaeology has made some great discoveries; however, archaeology is a progression and will continue to make new discoveries. The only problem with archaeology is that it's biased. If a discovery is made that contradicts either a published history book or the bible it's thrown away or the facts about the discovery are changed to fit a modern hypothesis.
Animikiiasin 1 month ago
@Animikiiasin ...Educate yourself!! I'm not your teacher..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy In other words you have no supporting details and fact. It's ok to admit that you're full of shit and you don't know.
Animikiiasin 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy youtube.com/watch?v=9k6b3FA0bcE)
RBinvader 1 month ago
@RBinvader ... thanks, i watched it.. Suffice to say it is ripe with Anthropomorphizing... at least they admit they use muscle and fat measurements from an average modern European.. Glue manufacture is likely much harder in the laboratory. No doubt Neanderthal was an intelligent creature...
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
Neanderthals are primates, so should look more,like primates? Funny thing, modern humans ARE ALSO PRIMATES! True Neanderthal evolution happened mostly in Europe/Asia, while modern humans evolved in Africa: but from what stock did Neanderthal evolve from? Was it from the prolific and successful species Homo erectus? Does this suggest that Homo erectus also looked more like other primates and less like members of the genus Homo? So when exactly do the traits associated with genus Homo appear?
srchaudhari1974 2 months ago
the part of cannibalistic behavior was proved to happen because of lack of food , at the end of the era of neanderthal , when cro-magnon and neanderthal were hunting for the same prey and thus caused food "prey" to be scarce/
RBinvader 2 months ago
unless planet of the apes happened in real life , the part of leaving the structure of the body so primitive with the proof of tool and cultural behavior so complex still does not fit quite well.
RBinvader 2 months ago
what about the countless tools and artifacts and complex life stiles in groups , and buried their dead, had fire etc... and in other studies had been proved that their frontal lobe witch is for cognitive thinking is just as large as modern human.
RBinvader 2 months ago
@RBinvader is it so hard to believe that a primate looking apeman had those skills.. They wore skins but did not sew.. "countless"? maybe 20 tools... Chimpanzees make tools..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy what i meant by countless is the amount of tools accumulated are in sites, not the diversity of them, even the elaborate way they made pitch to make glue is a complicated task, evidence of hardware like "needles" for sewing is lacking due to the materials they were made with , wood bone etc..
RBinvader 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy and Chimps make only RAW tools like a stone for clubbing , a stick for reach, last time i checked they are not making stone flints and making wood pitch, and most important, have the ability to "speak" . I do not refute some aspects of the theory , but the whole picture does not fit the general accounts and fisical evidence.
RBinvader 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy Chimps also make spears by sharpening sticks with their teeth, and then stabbing them into tree hollows to impale (and then eat) bush babies.
So, why not a ape-looking, stone-blade-using hominid with comparable tactical/concrete intelligence to ourselves (but not our imagination or creativity?)
FWIW, I read somewhere that the human susceptibility to schizophrenia and mental quirks, may also be associated with genius and creativity. We may be more unique among animals than we think.
bjggjb 1 month ago
@bjggjb ... could not agree with you more.. i think people "push" humanity on them.. Definitely similar, but much more primitive in every way..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@younwhosarmy I also read somewhere (yeah I know I can't cite my sources off the top of my head, but I DID read it!) that Neanderthal's toolkit showed very little change/innovation over a period of 100,000 years.
Also, what might be called "art" (crude art at that) doesn't appear among items associated with Neanderthals until well after 40K years ago (at a time when they were facing competition from humans, and presumably losing.) "Can't beat 'em, imitate 'em" was their game maybe?
bjggjb 1 month ago
@bjggjb ... this whole topic is very interesting.. i think Danny's theory is mostly correct.. however i think he pushes the Neanderthal Predation effect on our evolution a bit too far; since the African race is the same on many of his points.. and presumably they were not preyed upon and raped by Neanderthals.. that part doesn't explain as much of our evolution as he would like.. but no doubt he has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Science has presented
Neanderthal as too human like..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
grendel from beowulf.
jimmykinkade 2 months ago
@jimmykinkade As well as ogres/trolls, and other such legends. And what do ogres/trolls do in these legends? They kidnap (and sometimes eat) human women and children! It's easy to see how such legends could become distorted/magnified over a period of 28,000 years (i.e., Neanderthal becoming the gigantic, hairy, loathsome Grendel and his mother.)
It is interesting that most such legends are from northern Europe, where isolated enclaves of Neanderthals may have held out the longest.
bjggjb 1 month ago
personally i dont think neanderthal's actually went extinct, i would think years cross breeding between them and cromagnon's( modern humans) would be connected to some of the diverse genetic races of todays world. just speaking freely, i could be wrong, though it is a possiblity.
aint it?
pac4life93 2 months ago
Your ignorance as to the fearer races having 1-4% neanderthal DNA is astounding. Crowmagnon is where in this,or do you think that they were homo sapien.Denisovan DNA is also found in modern humans,up to 10% in some of the Melinisian races.The eyes of your model are not what is expected,& the ape like forward slouch is also incorrect.Check where the spine joins the skull,& instead of comparing a profile silouet,try a chimp skull.You are a ignorant fool.Do some real research & get it right
lbritcher62 2 months ago
This is nonsense, Neanderthals wore clothing, made fire, spears, glue etc. These behaviours are NOT found in any other primate except us. In addition, the fact they had the foxp2 gene (language) and the DNA contribution being FAR TOO HIGH to have RAPE as an explanation - means the general consensus is built on the fact they were more like us, than other primates.
superhamzah85 2 months ago
@superhamzah85
Also the skull comparison you showed was flawed. You angled the skull to make it appear more protruding, when in fact they are as vertical as ours. Also, the faces were larger, but the proportions were similar. The eyes were not high, but the forehead was more sloping, giving the illusion that their eyes were higher. Also, cro-magnon skulls were bigger than modern humans too.
superhamzah85 2 months ago
@superhamzah85 Did You Pale Face Crackers Not see The Difference In A Human Skull And A Neanderthal Skull Now Is That A Lie!! I Think Not! These Zoo Animal Beasts Are You White Folks Ancestors!! You Racist White Crac(kkk)ers!! Use To Say And Tell Black People That They Were 3/4TH Human NOW The Whole World Knows That It Was You Non Blacks All Along Who Are 3/4TH Human HA HA HA The Truth Is Coming Out And You White People Can't Handle The TRUTH!! The Difference In The Skulls Is AMAZING LAUGHING!
gloriacamel2006 21 hours ago
@gloriacamel2006
The truth is - whatever you think - is irrelevant to the world.
superhamzah85 19 hours ago
Very interesting. I look forward to reading your book.
MrFriendlyFella 2 months ago
Am I the only one who is slightly relieved these Neanderthals do not walk the earth anymore ?
natjaa 2 months ago
this is all bullshit, read a fucking book
EddyWillyJimmy 2 months ago
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MyBelowme 2 months ago
Saw neanderthal bones up close at the Museum of Natural History. They were extremely robust and the eyesockets were huge. Definately a nasty looking being, I'd hate to meet one in the forest. They weren't very fast runners, maybe that is why we survived. Having sex with a neanderthal is totally unthinkable. The neanderthal DNA that some humans have today must be results of rape. Oh, what a terrible thought!
sauroid1 2 months ago
The digital model was well done until you guys gave them red feline eyes.
0mega7000 2 months ago
I'd rather this that butthole mentality creationists, but only just.
Rhinogradentian 2 months ago
your neanderthal remind me of bigfoot!!!!
Nidodavis 2 months ago
Hahaha, you're talking bias and then you build a raging scarred slit-eyed gorilla orc with threatening music as new model?
Oh man, thanks for the laughs...
Petrolianzoolbar 3 months ago
So yeah, I disagree strongly with this video, seems to me like wild speculation.
Tlevids 3 months ago
Sounds dubious to me, humans and neanderthals shared a very close common ancestor (most likely Homo heidelbergensis) and chimp and neanderthal skulls are almost nothing alike. The only similarity I can see is the prognathism (jutting jaw) but that's much larger in chimpanzees. Neanderthals are as distantly related to chimpanzees as humans are. And all the stuff about neanderthal males being evil rapists is just another way of anthropomorphisizing neanderthals.
Tlevids 3 months ago
I wanted to be a biologist when i was a kid ,, but i ended up with a degree in Mechanical engineering ... but always held the passion for biology and always kept up with the latest documentaries the best i could ..from the very first depiction they made on TV i was felt they were wrong ...i too think they looked more ape like ...BUT JUST ONE MORE INCLUSION IN TO YOUR VERSION I CAN MAKE IS THAT ..I THINK THEIR HAIR WAS WHITE ,,LIKE POLAR BEARS AND CAVE LIONS TO BLEND WITH SNOW
nipun5555 3 months ago
@nipun5555 IOW, a Yeti/Abominable Snowman???
bjggjb 1 month ago
they might not be extinct, 70 of them are advanced enoguh to have youtube accoutns
dalektaliban 3 months ago
filthy lying jewish propaganda
Fjallgeirr 3 months ago 2
@Fjallgeirr
How so? This theory is more credible than the mainstream PC out of Africa theory.
HyperboreanSoil 2 months ago
@HyperboreanSoil No it isn't he is completely cherry picking his evidence.
TheRealEricLester 2 months ago
Why, exactly, would they evolve even darker skin than our African ancestors in a Europe that had far less sun?
KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK 3 months ago
@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK good point.....even with all the truth comming out about neanderthal man in the last 2 years mainstream scholars still seem like theyre trying sooooo hard to make the "out of africa" theory fit in with the new findings....
honestly tho, it looks like neanderthal was an untouched human race that over took the incomming african sapiens and resulted in a VERY intelligent race of WHITE BLUE EYED NEANDERTHAL SAPIEN hybrids....
MyBelowme 2 months ago
@MyBelowme Indeed. In fact, recent news has pointed out that Homo Sapien females were attracted to Neanderthal men for basically being superior in every way, especially including how much smarter they were.
KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK 2 months ago
@KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK Which is why we only have less than 4% of their DNA.
TheRealEricLester 2 months ago
@TheRealEricLester Every percentage counts, you know.
KawaiiDesuNekoBCSK 2 months ago
i heard red hair comes from neanderthals
TheRCat 3 months ago
@TheRCat It does not, it's a separate mutation.
SloveintzWend 2 months ago
So we killed em all? lol. Don't fuck with humans bitches
tomyferland1234 3 months ago
they always wanna make their ugliness look good smh
twentyboy1 3 months ago
Interesting hypothesis, but they lack predatory teeth. I'd like to hear your explanation/hypothesis for that!
Aodanful 3 months ago 4
@Aodanful They don't kill with their teeth like say wolves do. They kill with their hands or their implements.
HyperboreanSoil 2 months ago
@HyperboreanSoil Ah, I see...Didn't think of that. Implements such as?
Aodanful 2 months ago
@Aodanful
Thrusting Spears, clubs...
HyperboreanSoil 2 months ago
@Aodanful That would be due to the fact they are hominids(sort of) which probably evolved from homo-erectus who had lost their primate fangs long time ago. Neanderthals also probably used their tools to grind or cook their meat. But studies show that they had far stronger and more powerful teeth then modern humans.
Isleifur90 2 months ago 3
@Aodanful We humans have turned out to be the most efficient predators that have ever existed - and we also lack predatory teeth. Who's to say that the Neanderthals didn't use sharpened flints, clubs ect. to make up for their lack of sharp canines? Weapons use and pack tactics PLUS having five times the strength of a modern human bodybuilder would make for an absolutely fearsome predator IMHO.
bjggjb 1 month ago
@Aodanful .. He gives a few free chapters on his website.. They didn't use teeth to attack, they used spears.. Science is slow to accept change..
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
@Aodanful Homo Erectus was using fire about 1.4 million years ago (pre-dating Neanderthal) and COOKED meat doesn't require big, sharp teeth (in addition to tasting one hell of a lot better, than it does raw.) So much for Neanderthals needing "predatory teeth" to be predators... they were cooks as well as hunters.
bjggjb 1 month ago
Also even ape babies are cute to us so I don't know why Neanderthal babies wouldn't be, even if this were true.
TheRealEricLester 4 months ago
I also don't buy the idea that we fear the dark and predators because of neanderthals. Predators of all types tend to hunt at night, as he says. So this suggests that our primal fears go back much much further and have been reinforced by selective pressure since our ancestors were shrew-like if not before.
TheRealEricLester 4 months ago
Yeah, I'm going to call shenanigans on this. The features that define us, high intelligence, symbolic thinking and gracile facial features first showed up in africa, so how could pressure/genes from neanderthals cause them? Furthermore why would they even want to fuck our women? and the dna non-africans share with neanderthals is far too little to be the result of the widespread mating this man suggests. And on an evolutionary scale, 500,000 years is not that long.
TheRealEricLester 4 months ago
@TheRealEricLester i bet you cro magnon women were 100x more attractive than hairy neanderthal women. my guess is that neanderthals were like trolls, kind of slow but brutally strong and i personally doubt that their large brain and primitive burial rituals are indicative of much intelligence. they probably hid under bridges and grabbed for ankles too
TheRCat 3 months ago
@TheRCat That is stupid.
TheRealEricLester 2 months ago
@TheRealEricLester Man I could tear apart your silly little comment. Except I'm afraid you'd go into a caveman rage and rip me to shreds with your brutish paws. You're way too pro-Neanderthal...just accept that we kicked their dirty stinking monkey asses and now they're rotting face down in shallow graves and no amount of sympathy is gonna bring them back!
GOOD RIDDANCE DIRTY NEANDERTHALS!!!!
TheRCat 2 months ago
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MyBelowme 2 months ago
@TheRealEricLester Africans do not have high intelligence or gracile facial features. If you disagree are you able to cite a pure blooded African that possesses such features?
HyperboreanSoil 2 months ago
@HyperboreanSoil On average they all do. But I suppose you have evidence to the contrary? Do you have trouble distinguishing African sapiens skulls from those of H. Erectus or ergastor?
A fleshy nose does not count as a robust feature.
TheRealEricLester 2 months ago
@TheRealEricLester Sub-Saharan African features are much less gracile than Nothern European features. The average African IQ is on average 35 points lower than the Northern European. African Skulls are also much thicker, wider, and demonstrate severe prognathism when compared to Northern European Skulls.
African skulls demonstrate a lot of similarities with neanderthal skulls.
HyperboreanSoil 2 months ago 3
@HyperboreanSoil Yeah totally, the Ju-/huansi look just like neanderthals. /sarcasm. You seem to have read too many "fun nigger fact" macros to have a coherant conversation about this.
TheRealEricLester 2 months ago
@HyperboreanSoil But can IQ tests designed by western whites for western whites, accurately measure the IQ of sub-Saharan Africans? There are cultural differences that probably need to be taken into account.
FWIW - when I was in the military, some of the dumbest people I worked and lived with were white, and some of the smartest were black (not to say that idiots didn't come in all colors.)
bjggjb 1 month ago
@HyperboreanSoil Stop The Lies Just Because You Racist White Crackers Are Truly The Planet Of The Apes And Truly 3/4TH Apes Don't Become Jealous And Envious Because Black Skinned African's Are The True Hueman Beings On Earth!!! HA HA HA Black Skinned Africans On The Continent Of Africa Have 0% PERCENT ZOO BEAST ANIMAL NEANDERTHAL DNA BLOODLINE!! You Whites Non Blacks Truly Carry A lot Of Your Ancestors (DEMONIC TRAITS) MURDERERS/LIARS/THIEVES NATURAL BORN KILLERS "N"'s And Super Predators!!
gloriacamel2006 21 hours ago
I completely disagree with this.
nitramletnan 4 months ago 3
@nitramletnan ... Then you are like the majority of people in the World today... Closed minded.. Resistant to change.. Science continually resists any new information that challenges the The long accepted theory.. or the "theorehtical" timeline of Human Origins.. Danny's theory has consistently been proved accurate as new evidence is revealed.. i believe he will inevitably be Vindicated from people like you.. ... no offense ;)
younwhosarmy 1 month ago
Lol Geico Caveman.
hemms3 4 months ago
This is probably one of the silliest things I have ever seen on Youtube,,,and I do mean EVER......
piiskanpaavo 4 months ago
@piiskanpaavo please don't give any limbs. This man is spinning a yarn.
TheRealEricLester 4 months ago
GOD!! I would give an arm if I could travel back to see these super predators in action.
Dansthoughts 4 months ago
@Dansthoughts I think I read somewhere, that scientists have sequenced most (or all) of the Neanderthal genome... so maybe we'll all get to see a cloned Neanderthal in our lifetimes.
If this "super-predator" theory turns out to be vindicated by a cloned specimen... it sure will be interesting to see how the politically correct, scientific spin doctors who are trying to depict Neanderthals as a bunch of nice, peaceable saints will react!
bjggjb 1 month ago
what a tit !
sijenkinson1 4 months ago
I agree that they probably didn't look like us necessarily, but one flaw... we are primates too and you keep inferring that we aren't primates but that the Neanderthals were.
jackthefrenchguy 4 months ago
this video has waaayy too many speculations and leaps. one is saying just because they were primates they had to be hairy. guess what so are homo sapiens but we are not covered in hair. ancient homonids started losing their hair millions of years ago.
preston9019 4 months ago
@preston9019 This, sensationalism "science" at its best.
TheRealEricLester 4 months ago
@TheRealEricLester even a most basic class in Archaeology answers and refutes many of his speculations.
preston9019 4 months ago
dam, its a good thing these creatures didnt dominate the planet
dalektaliban 4 months ago
I disagree. Total bullshit speculation.
whycuds 4 months ago
So bigfoot/yeti sightings all over the world (mostly in the northern hemisphere) could be subconscious memories of this predator? Or remaining pockets?
idmars10 4 months ago 3
@idmars10 ... Right one or the other.... maybe both !!! if a remnant population survived they would have the instinct to avoid humans.. and continued evolution may have resulted in a varied diet.. the lack of fire making, and weapon manufacture; may be the result of lost skills.. Skills that were taught and learned can be lost and forgotten.. Who knows.. it's fun to imagine big foot exists.. perhaps they do !!
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idmars10 4 months ago
I have always thought (or the past 30 years) that modern H. sapien would be to the Neanderthal like todays modern elephant would be to the wooly mammoth. I totally agree that Neanderthals would have been hairy (very thick hair). I read "The Origin of Species" in middle school. I think Darwin would have agreed. I don't agree with anyone that Homo sapien interbreed with the Neanderthal. There must have been an unidentified subspecies in the middle east that bred with sapien when we left Africa.
duckmanjoel 4 months ago
The last thing I'd ever trust a zBrush-wielding artist with is a "scientific" reconstruction. I should know - I use zBrush, the software shown in use for Danny's reconstructed monster. It's a purely artistic tool in the hands of anyone except a highly qualified reconstructive scientist, which a digital artist is NOT.
While some of these theories are exciting, none of them seem to hold much traction in the face of current fossil knowledge or research. I'm entertained but not convinced.
GarageBay9 4 months ago 2
om nom nom delicious human females
Goldernie 4 months ago
poor Neanderthals they messed with the meanest bitches in the galaxy
thrax777 4 months ago 13
That flat nose would not be advantageous for the cold weather... you might want to reconsider that in the reconstruction.
return135 4 months ago
This guy is a good sci fi writer, and he knows that horror, intrigue, rape, murder all sells books. A scientist he is not.
somethingcomes 4 months ago 3
He he. Another British scientist.
tstatsta 4 months ago
@tstatsta australian
EIN771 4 months ago
I'm a middle aged uneducated (well primary and secondary educated) man who has always had an interest in pre - history and find this theory about neanderthal man to be really fantastic, I'm dying to read the book as this wee 15 minute vid has me gripped, I'm so far unable to track down a copy of the book even on ebay, does anyone know where I can get a copy?
colmsdad 4 months ago
Excellent work, Vini! The oldest Y chromosome, passed on by males is only about 45ky old. It matches your theory of Levantine men spreading across the planet. Soon the neaderthal will be cloned and we ll get to see the face of the monster. Throwing weapons turned the table on them, and as you said, these appear first time in the Levant. They failed because they were carnivore, thus their population was too small to compete with omnivores with throwing weapons (us). And we could outrun them.
MathfreePhysics 5 months ago 9
wow
xbritishgirlx 5 months ago
Whether among the Armenoid type or the YEHUD, the Neandros are yet among us.
BEWARE! He who does not guard evolution, is subject to de-evolution.
NKVism3 5 months ago
Interesting, thanks
Michaeloxenstierna 5 months ago
fucking moron he called neanderthal a primate? neanderthal had rh negative blood so there was NO FUCKIN CONNECTION TO PRIMATES
PatriotRadioMilitia 5 months ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia You are the moron. Humans are primates. Primate is our order.
TemplarX2 4 months ago
@TemplarX2 well im sure your able to prove it.
PatriotRadioMilitia 4 months ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia It's "you're". I don't need to prove it to you. You just have to google Homo Sapien and you'll find that its order is primate, ffs.
TemplarX2 4 months ago
@TemplarX2 google i t? thats all you got ? evolutionist have no proof your a soulless monkey but there are 3 major races and being that neanderthal was not a cave man and he had Oneg blood you and your google fail to prove where rh negative came out of a monkey .
PatriotRadioMilitia 4 months ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia Face palm. Another religious nutcase. Why aren't using technology, mofo? Can you communicate with prayers instead?
TemplarX2 4 months ago
@TemplarX2 NO I AM not religious at all . see you dont know shit . and yes i can communicate with prayer , what i have seen you will not until you die.
PatriotRadioMilitia 4 months ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia ROFLMAO. Have you had your anal probe yet? You are delusional.
TemplarX2 4 months ago
@TemplarX2 i see the devil has you , no point going further ,
PatriotRadioMilitia 4 months ago
@PatriotRadioMilitia LOL. You've been watching too much movies, buddy.
TemplarX2 4 months ago
Interesting. The body hair makes sense. Look for Almas or Almasti. They fit the description. The evil eyes are a bit exagerated IMO.
OldJong 5 months ago
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you make no sense sir
cavhoki 6 months ago
The thing is all of what he is saying is just a guess he has no evidence for this :P
DRXxUziixX95 6 months ago
wouldn't most of your evidence point Neanderthal to the more human and modern man towards the ape dominant??And if they were black then why the hell are there white people in the world? im not trying to discredit you evidence but ive literaly been studying this all day and your 15 min video just turned everything upside down.
frenchhy 6 months ago