" dollars worth of global inteligence, security and clandestine firepower."
No, what they beat we're crummy, outdated Airport security measures from the 1970's, intelligence agencies whom were squabbling each other, thus not sharing information,
and a defense system designed to take out EXTERNAL threats, not aircraft taking off within our own borders.
1. Our aircraft have been hijacked before.
2. The White House ITSELF has been crashed into, TWICE.
@Alaskaslim NORAD never had a problem shooting down passenger planes as it did in 1996 with TWA800 just off Long Island, and thats most certainly with in "our own borders" and " crummy, outdated Airport security measures " I'm calling bullshit as I couldn't even take a bottle of coke and a parker pen on a flight into and out of JFK, (I had to bagage pack my cellphone) in August 2001 The Squabbling Intelligence agencies is MSM apologetics to cover up cowardice; treason and corruption.
@Alaskaslim Hahaha. You really are delusional. "An argument." More of you repeating the same official convoluted fairytale. Whatever works for you big winner. Praise the traitors.
I can get into more detail if you wish, but let me lay it out;
You STATED "this is impossible", "this" being they could not hijack the aircraft, and crash them into buildings.
I just proved they could, so apparently, 1/2 of the "official story" has been justified, something YOU would have known, if you knew anything about aviation.
2. They could fly them to the general area thanks easty-to-use autopilots.
3. 93 and the WTC crashes weren't hard, the Pentagon wasn't either, but you would have to know something about flying to realize that. Further, Hanjour had qualifications, he had done more than just fly Cessnas.
This means the Government report on this part holds up, what was that about "impossibilities" again?
@Alaskaslim Thanks for your little irrelevant story Keiser Soze. You prove nothing. Knowledge of aviation doesn't exempt the expert testimony that your boy Hani would've had to have been a fighter ace to maneuver the plane the way it did. Oh, not to mention a plane never hit the pentagon. There's no evidence of a plane. No wings. No bodies. No wreckage. Same as 93. LOL The fact you won't answer 3 words just shows what an ass you are. Best of luck with that. Go USA!
Wrong, here's an Italian pilot, and experienced FDR data analyzer, to foil your BS against;
911myths . com/Another_Expert . pdf
You can tell just by looking at the data the guy was sloppy.
"No wings. No bodies. No wreckage."
ASCE report shows wing marks, there are pictures of the bodies, and wreckage, to include a SERIAL NUMBER, engine parts, and fuselage debris were all there, and there are pictures of all those too.
"The fact all alleged 19 hijackers were on watch lists"
No they weren't, it was less than 10, and over half were believed to be in Chechnya.
"with an immediate detain and arrest status "
Uh, no, that's not how it works. Customs is supposed to send these people back out of the country. Until they do something wrong to us, there is no "arrest" involved.
"slip" at the airport shouldn't have happened"
Why not? CIA wasn't sharing information with Customs, so they wouldn't know.
"Oh, but I forgot, one of the hijacker's passports was found in the dust and rubble at Ground Zero. "
A not uncommon result of air crashes.
But here's a more extreme example. Columbia, the shuttle that burned up? They found capsules of worms from the shuttle, and the worms WE'RE STILL ALIVE.
The shuttle came down in fragments, from our upper atmosphere, yet these things lived?
Oh, but I forgot, one of the hijacker's passports was found in the dust and rubble at Ground Zero. Great to see the armed forces admitting monkeys these days. It doesn't matter that a half dozen of the so-called hijackers are confirmed alive and well in their respective countries. Congrats, you've officially bought all the gov't b.s. hook, line, and sinker. Applause.
I'll tell ya what! That George w is as good as they get lol at speeches and calming ppl after a disaster that big.. It really gets pissed that this ass was the prez. And even more us why!, the, fuk!!, ppl voted for this brain dead hick. His dad was bad so why did ppl blow their nut on his son. And I feel that 9-11 was a combo of half truth with a touch of total lies. If ppl think that what the gov said is 100% true I have some beachfront property in the Midwest I got for ya;) the best lie has a
@MrElectricstorm They were easy to calm because they were scared as fuck because they were told they were being terrorized by terrorists people will belive anything from anyone when there vulnerable, and the fuckin world was vulnerable on that day
What disturbs me! all this debris (crime scene) was thrown into trucks and dumped into the ocean... In a very short amount of time instead of taking it to a lab or something for careful examination of what really happened just seems to shady for me!!
There are two Primary by-products of thermite, Aluminum Oxide and Barium Nitrate.
They make up 20-40% of the mixture respectively.
What the Truth movement commonly points to is deposits of IRON oxide, and sulfur, both making only 2% of the mixture, and could be found in materials of the Towers.
Only Alimnum Oxide, and Barium Nitrate have no business being there other than through thermite use, and neither have ever been shown to be there in any samples the Truth movement has provided.
@cappucinokid100 Instead of wasting my time looking at that. I will just apply the knowledge aquired during my education and career.and determine that Alaskaslim is completly correct in his statement.
@Alaskaslim What you said sounds good to a sheep. The evidence is against you. Eyewitnesses reports of massive explosions? Debris being whisked away to China? Steel beams conveniently blown into flat bed pieces for easy removal? Hotbeds of molten steal for days after the event? Satellite imagery of these hotbeds? Please be honest with yourself. Building #7 will always haunt the non-truther.
@Alaskaslim I LOVE you truth attackers because 99% of the time, your arguments are so completely asinine; spit on any semblance of common sense; defy all logic; it boggles my scrotum. With the complete and utter FUCKING LAUNDRY LIST of 100s to 1000s of things that have been uncovered that point to a conspiracy by the US gov't, NORAD, CIA, FBI... it goes on and on... you try to argue and debunk 1 DETAIL, completely inadequately at that with false information, and "truthers are the idiots." LOVE U
@Alaskaslim PLEASE DO go back to playing your vgs. Actually trying to speak any sense to a complete halfwit isn't worth the effort. Call me in Canada when you wake up to the fascist state you live in.
@Alaskaslim My point exactly with people like you. When did seeking TRUTH become "your side?" Gov't 100% lied about everything to do with the events. That isn't even a question anymore. If you choose to not believe that FACT, I pity you. Irrelevant, I lived in the US for over 7 years, but I'm full of myself becuz I have the common sense to see a false flag op? Apparently you're a tad full of yourself to think because you served, you know more. '05 London bombings are just as much b.s. TRUTH.
I work in aviation, knowing what happened on 9/11 is my business, because MY industry was the one most affected, and occurred, because MY industry failed in a critical area.
We would know better than anyone what allowed 9/11 to occur, and know most in-depth what happened, because WE were omnipresent at every juncture.
Air Traffic control, the airlines, NORAD, all us, there was even an ATC guy at Pentagon.
@Alaskaslim I honestly can't even reply to your statements with a straight face. Being a baggage handler or ATC or whatever it is, your claim to fame, makes you enlightened to 9/11? Wow. I'm done here. The level of absurdity of your arrogant ignorance overwhelms any sensible logic. Chalk one up for America. YOU WIN. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
"your claim to fame, makes you enlightened to 9/11?"
It's simple, what industry was MOST affected by 9/11?
Considering EVERY major airline has gone bankrupt because of 9/11, the TSA was CREATED to moderate Aviation SPECIFICALLY out of the 9/11 legislation, and that AIRCRAFT were used as the weapons, it all came down to us, it's common sense.
If you don't know aviation, you don't know 9/11. Aviation security IS 9/11.
@Alaskaslim Do you actually have a drawerful of blindfolds to coordinate with your daily outfits or do you just go with a neutral tone, or black? Whatever you spewed out there is completely irrelevant to the TRUTH of those events. And WTF, the airlines were all bankrupt well before 2001. If you think 18 hijackers went through security and got onto planes, took them over, then flew those planes into WTC, and the Pentagon... I can show you how to make $1000/day working 2 hours from home.
Wrong, you lack a fundamental understanding of how the airline business cycle works, it's unique unto itself and I will not try to explain it here. I was talking of chapter 11 bankruptcy, not Chapter 7, as Eastern Airlines went through. If you have a true interest in understanding this topic, PM me.
"irrelevant to the TRUTH "
Wrong, the "official story" hangs on the state of Aviation security, if you know that, you know if 9/11 was possible.
@Alaskaslim The "official story" is officially B.S. It's so blatantly obvious the NIST report was a hack carpet cleaning job. I honestly feel sorry for people that choose to feel safe in their comfort zones because they can't face the truth of reality. Knowledge and standing up for what's right isn't just invigorating and energizing; it's free thought that pushes people to create, to live life to the fullest, and live beyond the status quo. Best of luck to you sir.
@Alaskaslim I believe most answers to that are a resounding no unless of course, you're you, in which case, you know better because it's YOUR industry, as you've stated. I'm sure your credentials far outweigh the pilots and experts cited here. I suggest you google "The 911 Hijackers Amateur Aviators Who Became Super Pilots." And, Archs/Engrs for 9/11 Truth just spearheaded an official initiative that is going to be presented to Canadian Parliament with concrete evidence of explosives btw.
"I believe most answers to that are a resounding no"
The industry disagrees with you.
Nothing at our airports would have stopped this, what would of triggered alarm? If they weren't carrying guns, our security didn't care.
Next, what would stop them from taking over the plane? Nothing.
Understand, there was once something called "The Common Strategy", which within, it was Airline policy, let me make this clear, AIRLINE POLICY, to turn over control to hijackers.
So for the Hijackers to TAKE control of the aircraft, neither the Airport, nor Airlines would have stopped them, so that's a given.
Next part, could they have FLOWN the aircraft?
Yes, all they would have needed, were coordinates for their target.
The professional pilots already trimmed and configured the aircraft for flight, all the terrorists had to do, was program the Autopilot, and the plane would have flown ITSELF to the general area.
The approach is the final few minutes of flight, where they dived & ran into the buildings, but before I get to that, I allow you verify what I just told you,so that we are on the same page.
Airport security is bad, Airline Policy ALLOW hijackers take control, and the Autopilot made getting the planes within sight of the buildings simple.
That's essentially what I've listed so far, any arguments to this?
@Alaskaslim You've skirted every issue that actually matters concerning the official story which was the whole point of this to begin. Is it possible hijackers got on planes, yes. Were the hijackers', the names officially released, the culprits? NO. Some are still alive. Could they have flown them? NO. Clearly you didn't read. Did planes bring down the towers? NO. Explosives. Did fire bring down 7? NO. Explosives. A bunch of monkeys could have gotten on the planes, doesn't mean jack
No, I asked the question "was it possible for terrorists to hijack these planes"?
You answered "no", I'm showing you you're wrong. They COULD hijack our planes, nothing would have stopped them, that's a FACTUAL point.
Next I will show how the APPROACH, the final part of the flight, was possible for them. Is the former point settled? Do you admit they COULD hijack these planes?
Just so you know, other planes of ours have been hijacked before.
@Alaskaslim Remote access fight control has been mandatory since the 1970's and would have immediately been able to prevent what happened, The next point is that the cabin is dead locked before the plane leaves the asphalt, pilots are instructed not to open that door no matter the level of threat the otherside.
"Remote access fight control has been mandatory since the 1970's "
There is no such regulation anywhere in the FARs, further, Boeing was advertising they were trying to PERFECT such a system as late as 2005, it wasn't on the market yet, and it's still not.
I think you're just one those people whose Confused CAT I and CAT II landing systems for "remote control", want me to lay out the difference?
"the cabin is dead locked"
No it wasn't, it malfunctioned, happens all the time.
@Alaskaslim I find it amusing how you ignore all the circumstances and evidence pointing to the conspiracy/cover up and pick out little arguments to assert your airline knowledge as if you're proving anything of relevance. Fact is, we'll never know if a remote system was used to direct those planes into the towers, but we're lead to believe the Bad News Bears of terrorism flew them instead.
@Alaskaslim C/P the entire Popular Mechanics article how they collapsed; I could care less. You're nobody. You can hypothesize as much as you like. You can also give me a point by point B.S. breakdown how NORAD simply bungled the entire day's events. That's the whole point of a coverup. Repeat. Repeat. B.S. covers TRUTH. The exact same training scenario played out in the London bus bombings as well. Training exercises. LOL. The audacity. You planning on telling me 7 wasn't a planned detonation?
@Alaskaslim I don't have anything to say. Party on Garth. I think this is funny. You're like Rain Man. You spew out irrelevance and ignore all questions to which you can't answer because there are no truthful answers, because the. whole. official. story. is. b.s.
@Alaskaslim Hahaha... you're jokes. I've sat here amused with you, wasting time but I won't go any further 'til you answer those questions. Pretty simple. Requires 3 simple words. If you can't do that, we're done here.
@Alaskaslim I did not say it was a regulation. My Comment is in regards to technology, stop with the strawman. Convienient how the dead locks failed 4 times... Of cause one can also posit as plausible as the 'official line' Simply a training job got hi-jacked by slick operating psychopaths on behalf of neo-con oligarchs looking to concrette their interests, more plausible than 19 dissidents beating 999 Trillions dollars worth of global inteligence, security and clandestine firepower.
When the airlines are REQUIRED to do something, IT IS PUT IN THE FARs, and in order to earn their operating license they have to MEET those FARs.
There is NO "auxiliary " rules, either it's in the FARs, or you were wrong, it's NOT required. And considering this technology has NEVER been perfected, it's asinine to even say so.
@Alaskaslim No I Said MANDATORY and again my statement is in regards to technology NOT superlative bullshit refrences to interlectualy masterbatory paperwork of beauracratic sesspits. No technology is ever perfected, only improved upon. Explain? No, You have nothing to explain that I haven't already heard before from a myriad of YT dilettantes.
Doesn't matter, NOTHING is compelling Airlines to put such devices on their aircraft.
The FAA runs the ATC, if not them, then no one would be telling the airlines to do this.
"regards to technology"
That doesn't mean anything, if it's not a regulation, the airlines won't do it, they have a very thin profit margin on only half the years they operate, the other half they operate on a loss, they're not going to bother with something like this.
@Alaskaslim The fact all alleged 19 hijackers were on watch lists with an immediate detain and arrest status means the "slip" at the airport shouldn't have happened with the 'significantly heightened level of terrorist threat issued to the FAA via the FBI from the CIA & NSA' But when you have ISI agents escorting shoe bombers on to a planes, and stating in FBI wiretaps that the attacks on 6 weeks before hand it all points to an agenda of opportunity ergo Inside Job.
"And uhhhhh..... I was right ...." Oh that dubya, such a humanitarian. hauled your men , women and children's bodies to a landfill in China then told you are unpatriotic if you question it.
I don't see any evidence of 911 being a lie even tho I knew it was from day one..who would be stupid enough to believe those building would have collapsed like that just doesn't know anything about scientific reality
@Alaskaslim ICE ?? the immigration and customs enforcement ? I hate to tell u but it has been shown that the NIST's report has been shown to be fabricated those that are architect as well as Engineers have shown how false the reports are issued by the offical mouth pieces of the government ..do some research and don't be a sheeple ..unless u r one of the many disinformation agents online
"hate to tell u but it has been shown that the NIST's report has been shown to be fabricated"
Wrong. When the people who claim that, also claim the Government is manufacturing gays (and it IS Alex Jones and his ilk you're talking about, don't lie to me), it's not the NIST whose facts are suspect.
And the fact is, the ASCE backs them up, you have nothing to compare.
120,000 Civil engineers, and they're just the start.
@Alaskaslim lol...the only people supporting the government story is the government and their stooges...sorry u r willfully blind.. there is nothing that can be done to open ur eyes..since u refuse to accept the facts..every lie the government has spoken has been exposed..go back to ur matrix ..there is nothing more to say
This video is full of evidence of cut steel beams and what looks like thermite residue, no aluminum airplane regardless of its speed and amount of fuel can do that...
@Alaskaslim It's usually pointless to respond to neophytes, but here goes:
1. There are hundreds of images before "clean up" ever began.
2. "The demolition industry" uses thermite to disengage key supports in building demolition as opposed to cutting torches which would put the crews at risk!
3. There is tons of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE which PROVES nano-thermite was used!
** Next time do some research before making asinine comments to something you obviously now nothing about!!
1. Point to one then. every time I see this issue is brought up, they show pictures from after, not before. I can link you to articles that do just that if you want, and I hope they're not the same as yours.
2. Wrong, 11 demolition companies in New York CONFIRMED that's not their term. The closest meaning was pulling a building down with cables, just as they did with WTC 6,
3. There is none, just pointing to chemicals traces which are in thermite, but also in other things.
@Alaskaslim You're right, all the eyewitness reports, all the chemical evidence, the thousands of professors, scientists, engineers & architects who independently analyzed the dust & debris and filed a petition against Congress are all lying. I've done years of research and you have obviously done zero true investigation! You are most likely a troll or some moose banger, so keep living your personal delusion while the rest of us live in reality! BTW, it was WTC #7, you clueless wonder!! Ba bye.
It's just so amazing that all that burning office furniture burned for 3 months despite the best efforts of firefighters to extinguish them. That "office furniture" must have been some truly hot shit! I should get some for my wood stove. (lol)
If you buy the gov't story about 9/11, then you must believe all the laws of physics collapsed that day as well.
@R3VoltUK Do you what thermite is? How it is made? You do? Good. Now take the potential for aluminum and or iron to be virtually vaporized in pressures such as a building collapse - add a heat source like a burning gas main or jet fuel or even diesel. What do you then get? A perfect scenario to effectively create thermite. Jesus.
Its highly unlikely that someone would destroy one of his economic centers to get a reason to start a costly war.This is a secret service Psyop against the US to divide the people from the government to paralyse the US.
My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half years by the german BND.He was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage. Examples of torture and steering in Germany are found on my channel in the videos on Anneliese Michel and the RAF members.
@wwwtotalitaerde Please excuse his mental illness. Martin Bott (wwwtotalitaerde) is suffering from a psychosis that makes him believe the government is after him, controlling minds everywhere etc. >_> His allegedly murdered brother even went to court against him because he didn’t want him to use his name for that nonsense. Now he sticks to defaming my country in Youtube videos. He’s a madman and wants to make his shitty conspiracy-homepage look important, nothing else.
9/11 was a horrible injustice to the American People, whether by it's own Government or Someone Else, the fact still remains that Forensics and Science, DO NOT LIE, Presidents, The Government and ALL it's Offices DO!!!
But since it's been pounded into the heads of the American people since birth that it is not good to question authority these things just go unchecked. Evil will succeed if good men do nothing is something I believe wholeheartedly.
Listening to the President convey his impressions in regard to the scene is enough to know that HE knew how it all went down. No real emotion is conveyed by him. Such a lame response.
Also, we can clearly see steel beams that show evidence of being cut via melting. Cut, not twisted from softening due to progressive heating in a fire. And what one responder refers to as smoke....that is steam, folks. There is a lot of molten metal under that pile.
The Manhattan Project was known immediately following WWII. Before you go around being an ignorant fool think and research. One of the people you were arguing with was a marine with 21 years of service. That man deserves respect of the highest degree. If any one is pissing on anyone's graves, it is in fact you.
If Kurt Sonnenfeld does not put his video of 9/11 on the web he is as good as dead. If we all see it then it will become common knowledge and maybe something can be done. I mean they can't kill us all. Can they?
@mamasorus I know. I was not trying to attack you, sorry if it seemed that way. But that is why he does not release the video in the first place. You know? Sometimes, when I read the paper and see the news I feel I cant take that much corruption and injustice. It really pains me, truthfully.
@monsteripolo np. I didn't think you were attacking me. All I'm saying is that if everybody sees the videos there is no need to kill him because everyone will know the truth not just him. Your pain is shared by millions of people that are going thru the same thing myself included. But evil will succeed if good men do nothing.
the lady bush is shaking hands with at the start is evelyn rothschild, family owns majority of federal reserve and was behind the whole 9/11 events - estimated net worth somewhere north of 500 trillion
@teamtumbleweed wow really???? :O I just found out who the rothschilds and rockefellers are and what they're seemingly up to. Its all unfortunatley starting to make sense to me. Now i wish i didnt vote for certain people :/
6:00 a thermite or White phosphorus flash? 6:09 clean cut beam - shape charge which helped bring the building down, or cut after the fall to remove large sections?
That information presented was fraudulent and does not match up with actual events occurring 9/11.. People need to stop being blindly led by media and gullible.. There was a major cover up by American government..
Netflix Loose Change 9/11: An American Coupe and you CANNOT tell me the government orchestrated coverup to a certain degree.. These buildings BOTH collapsed in 10 sec.. Not to mention the black guy interviewed near the end who lived through that 3rd building collapsing was killed and "no further investigation" was permitted. The government won't even allow any further investigation on any of it even tho multiple CIA and FBI Agents of close to 3 decades, A.K.A. highly ranked, state explicitly th
if there is all this powerful jet fuel that can melt steel and bring down buildings, how the heck are they finding the terrorists passports. I can burn a passport with a match let alone gallons of jet fuel.
You people are unfucking unbelievable, you will grasp at anything to try to make your point seem like the truth. First it's a controlled demo, then Missiles, then no plains. Now Asbestos? Really? You people need to get a life, something. Oh, I'm sorry, most of you are probably with the 99%ers (OWS'ers) and don't have a job and feel that it's the Gov responsibility to give you a job, and a house, and other peoples money even though they pulled off this magical plot that you figured out.
@keflar5 Are you a A/C crash investigator? I was on an Emergency Reclamation Team that was sent to recover assets off an A-6 that went down in the Croatan National Forest due to a bird strike on take off. There was not much left of the A/C, nothing larger then a 2'x3' pc. and that was hitting swampy muck that you sank in up to your thigh. So don't come off to me like you know what the fuck you're talking about "YOU CLEVER CURIOUS GUY"! Go find your fucking brain!
It really doesn't matter anyway. You still think this is the way it will always be eh? Everything we see in the western world is built on and maintained by depleting reserves of cheap non renewable fossil fuels. The sustainability prospect was zero from get go. But they don't wan't people to now THAT of course because it would damage the dream. They will continue to bail out and prop up the dream until they no long can and then everyone will see it was a lie.
if you are a A/C crash specialist, THEN GIVE YOUR REAL NAME instead of hiding behind an anonymous name like the disinfo coward USGov shill you truly are.
9/11 was an inside job.
David F. Petrano, Esq (FL) member, Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, member, United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida, member, the Florida Bar.
@dpetrano Never said I was an A/C crash specialist what I said is that I was on an A/C reclamation team and was giving fax as I saw them. 99% of the people on the net use anonymous names. I will tell you that I am a retired Marine with 21yrs of service in the air wing and I am def not a shill. You on the other hand are taking money from misguided people and creating bullshit because you are a shit lawyer in the most screwed up legal system in the country.
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX Say what you will. 9/11 was an inside job. Steel frame buildings on petro-fire don't go puff-ka-boom.
And if you are pitching typical USGov shill BS that USGov can't conspire to keep big things secret, I say MANHATTAN PROJECT proves you wrong.
If you're a Marine, know this. You piss on the graves of those 3000 souls burned alive by advocating moronic, brain-dead "semper fi" theories about 19 boxcuttin' Muslims.
@keflar5 Are you a A/C crash investigator? I was on an Emergency Reclamation Team that was sent to recover assets off an A-6 that went down in the Croatan National Forest due to a bird strike on take off. There was not much left of the A/C, nothing larger then a 2'x3' pc. and that was hitting swampy muck that you sank in up to your thigh. So don't come off to me like you know what the fuck you're talking about "YOU CLEVER CURIOUS GUY"! Go find your fucking brain!
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX Well the thing is: It's a lot easier to prove this was a conspiracy then to prove it wasn't. The evidence is stacked against them, it really is. The only thing you can say was. "No, that didn't happen. The middle east hijacked your planes." If you get right into the details and evidence, it's stacked against you.
@DGrant1010 What proff do you have? Look all of you that live in America and think it's so bad and UNFAIR, leave. Pack your shit and go live some where else. This country is so fair we will let you leave. Now just try to get into another country and live as we do here. Try Mexico or hey since Hiperion900 brought it up go to Zimbabwe you'll love it there
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX I'm Canadian. Lol. I have free health care. But that's besides the point. I was only pointing out a flaw. I said it's a lot easier to prove it was a set up, than it wasn't. I havn't seen too many videos that prove the conspiracy theorists wrong. The buildings falling at free fall speed is very difficult to fight. Let alone them collapsing in the first place. They were built with that scenario in mind.
@DGrant1010 That explains alot. Yah I heard about your free medcal from Canadians I was with in Italy during the Bosnian war, NO THANK YOU! No shit, they fell at free fall speed. You think that the steel has to be melted befor it loses its integrity? Should it have stoped falling at each floor for a few seconds then collapsed? Yes they were built with a plane crash in mind but not as big of a plane. When they were built there were no planes that size.
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX Look at earthquake proof buildings. An earthquake doesn't come through and level them without some sort of resistance. Those buildings didn't crumble. Those buildings collapsed.
@DGrant1010 Actually, the towers DUSTIFIED, they did NOT collapse; to the contrary, they turned into DUST. What occurred on 9/11 was completely inconsistent with jet fuel fires or explosions, but more in-line w/ damaged caused by directed energy weapons or nuclear. Google "9/11 directed energy weapons"
@dpetrano They did no such thing. There were massive sections of the outer columns still largely intact. Some people survived in staircases near the bottom of the buildings. There were huge pieces of steel carted away for weeks. They were far from "dustified." (not a word, by the way.)
@KidMeatball, if you still buy-into the "Official" theory about the 19 Muslims w/ boxcutters, then this discussion stops here/now, so read no further.
If you suspect "an inside job," as I do, read-up on the findings of a material science PhD named Judy Woods, who demonstrates via genuine photos WTC 1,2 were mostly turned into dust, in a manner consistent w/ only direct energy weapondry and/or nukes, but most certainly NOT jet fuel or thermite/thermate. "
@KidMeatball, I have spent some time lately researching into the findings of a PhdD material science engineer named Judy Woods, who clearly explains via the actual 9/11 photos, the enormous amount of dust could have only been accomplished by directed energy weapons. google "9/11 directed energy weapons." I know it sounds crazy, as i thought it did , but if you listen to her reasoning and check out the science, you will likely take interest in what she has to say.
@dpetrano So, you're not going to answer my question. You claim, ahem, the towers "were mostly turned to dust." Without numbers to back this up, this simply goes down as more truther BS. How much of the towers were turned to dust?
@KidMeatball, the pics of the collapse/destruction (whatever you call it) speak for themselves. The 9/11 DUST went everywhere down the entire eastern seaboard.
If you need "proof" of duct in terms of numbers, then you also deny Hiroshima turned mostly to dust as well, b/c there's was no accounting for Hiroshima's structures after the A-blast, but a few contorted steel frames. Hiroshima, like the twin towers, WAS TURNED TO DUST.
@dpetrano Hiroshima caused a shockwave that completely leveled 16 miles of the city. Not even comparable to this event. Second, Judy Woods uses the word "dustification." Not a word. Third, she uses video of a dust covered steel structure collapsing as evidence of steel turning into dust. Fourth, you still didn't answer my question.
Try this one, was WTC 7 also turned to dust in a similar manner?
@KidMeatball, Judy woods, like myself, have adapted the non-word "DUSTIFICATION" because it is the only thing that makes sense, given the images in the photos. Really, if you believe USGov orchestrated 9/11 in some way, take some time to educate yourself on what Dr. Woods has to say.
In the meantime, realize no one other than the people who orchestrated 9/11 know what really happened. What's certain is it was not the result of a jet fuel fire and 19 guys w/ boxcutters.
This jack ass should be in jail
PlAtNuMReEkAn 7 hours ago
" dollars worth of global inteligence, security and clandestine firepower."
No, what they beat we're crummy, outdated Airport security measures from the 1970's, intelligence agencies whom were squabbling each other, thus not sharing information,
and a defense system designed to take out EXTERNAL threats, not aircraft taking off within our own borders.
1. Our aircraft have been hijacked before.
2. The White House ITSELF has been crashed into, TWICE.
3. The "common strategy", look it up.
Alaskaslim 18 hours ago
@Alaskaslim NORAD never had a problem shooting down passenger planes as it did in 1996 with TWA800 just off Long Island, and thats most certainly with in "our own borders" and " crummy, outdated Airport security measures " I'm calling bullshit as I couldn't even take a bottle of coke and a parker pen on a flight into and out of JFK, (I had to bagage pack my cellphone) in August 2001 The Squabbling Intelligence agencies is MSM apologetics to cover up cowardice; treason and corruption.
DARTHMOBIUS 9 hours ago
@DARTHMOBIUS
"TWA800"
You do realize NORAD controls AIRCRAFT, not AA batteries, right? AA batteries would be the Army, or the Navy, depending on what's firing it.
Further, TWA 800 crashed due to a engine malfunction, and is completely irrelevant.
"NORAD never had a problem shooting down passenger planes "
It takes on average a little over an hour for them to respond to an INTERNAL incident.
You heard me, OVER AN HOUR. If you thought differently, you were wrong.
Alaskaslim 9 hours ago
@Vandalj
Here, let me demonstrate just how LITTLE you know about the Pentagon;
Does it have air defenses? There's only one right answer.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim Hahaha. You really are delusional. "An argument." More of you repeating the same official convoluted fairytale. Whatever works for you big winner. Praise the traitors.
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
Sorry, but this certain relative is a Cold War veteran, who spent half their career spooking/ killing Communist Koreans.
You're trying to say your more patriotic than they? I doubt you ever even served, I doubt you've ever laid your life down for anything,
Even now, you're nothing but a coward, attacking TRUE patriots through anonymity, rather than to their face.
I'm done with you.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim Oh, I don't think I'll lose much sleep in that regard. You were done before we started.
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim You shill. Your piousness is hilarious. One would never reveal family... you just continue to fail...
Vandalj 6 hours ago
@Alaskaslim The only loser here is your nation. Freedom is a figment of imagination. You are now a country of fascist rule. The USA is lost.
Vandalj 1 day ago
Haha, you can't answer can you?
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
I can get into more detail if you wish, but let me lay it out;
You STATED "this is impossible", "this" being they could not hijack the aircraft, and crash them into buildings.
I just proved they could, so apparently, 1/2 of the "official story" has been justified, something YOU would have known, if you knew anything about aviation.
But since you don't, you can't even comment.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim Ok turbo, I've heard your story. Now answer the 3 questions. Quit stalling.
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandal
"Ok turbo, I've heard your story. "
Nope, no story, facts;
1. They could hijack the planes
2. They could fly them to the general area thanks easty-to-use autopilots.
3. 93 and the WTC crashes weren't hard, the Pentagon wasn't either, but you would have to know something about flying to realize that. Further, Hanjour had qualifications, he had done more than just fly Cessnas.
This means the Government report on this part holds up, what was that about "impossibilities" again?
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
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@Alaskaslim Haha, you can't answer can you?
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim Thanks for your little irrelevant story Keiser Soze. You prove nothing. Knowledge of aviation doesn't exempt the expert testimony that your boy Hani would've had to have been a fighter ace to maneuver the plane the way it did. Oh, not to mention a plane never hit the pentagon. There's no evidence of a plane. No wings. No bodies. No wreckage. Same as 93. LOL The fact you won't answer 3 words just shows what an ass you are. Best of luck with that. Go USA!
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
"Hani would've had to have been a fighter ace"
Wrong, here's an Italian pilot, and experienced FDR data analyzer, to foil your BS against;
911myths . com/Another_Expert . pdf
You can tell just by looking at the data the guy was sloppy.
"No wings. No bodies. No wreckage."
ASCE report shows wing marks, there are pictures of the bodies, and wreckage, to include a SERIAL NUMBER, engine parts, and fuselage debris were all there, and there are pictures of all those too.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Vandalj
"just shows what an ass you are"
I'm the ass? You're one who tried to say IN AN AIRLINER CRASH that aviation was "not important".
I suppose next you're going to say a coroner is unimportant to solve a murder.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim hahaha... wash, rinse, repeat. fail. what an existence you lead.
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
Pal, I had a relative at the Pentagon;
i217 . photobucket . com/albums/cc160/AlaskaSlim/Alaska%20Slim/Pentagon0938 . jpg
You've been dancing in my palm this entire time.
I know the truth, so you can either hear it from me, or you can pretend to spread what you THINK you know elsewhere.
Either way, you lost the moment you tried to argue with me.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim you're just as bad as the traitors behind those events. keep spreading the lies. you make your gov't proud.
Vandalj 1 day ago
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Vandalj 1 day ago
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@DA
"The fact all alleged 19 hijackers were on watch lists"
No they weren't, it was less than 10, and over half were believed to be in Chechnya.
"with an immediate detain and arrest status "
Uh, no, that's not how it works. Customs is supposed to send these people back out of the country. Until they do something wrong to us, there is no "arrest" involved.
"slip" at the airport shouldn't have happened"
Why not? CIA wasn't sharing information with Customs, so they wouldn't know.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
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@Vandalj
"Oh, but I forgot, one of the hijacker's passports was found in the dust and rubble at Ground Zero. "
A not uncommon result of air crashes.
But here's a more extreme example. Columbia, the shuttle that burned up? They found capsules of worms from the shuttle, and the worms WE'RE STILL ALIVE.
The shuttle came down in fragments, from our upper atmosphere, yet these things lived?
Something to think about.
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
Oh, but I forgot, one of the hijacker's passports was found in the dust and rubble at Ground Zero. Great to see the armed forces admitting monkeys these days. It doesn't matter that a half dozen of the so-called hijackers are confirmed alive and well in their respective countries. Congrats, you've officially bought all the gov't b.s. hook, line, and sinker. Applause.
Vandalj 3 days ago
I'll tell ya what! That George w is as good as they get lol at speeches and calming ppl after a disaster that big.. It really gets pissed that this ass was the prez. And even more us why!, the, fuk!!, ppl voted for this brain dead hick. His dad was bad so why did ppl blow their nut on his son. And I feel that 9-11 was a combo of half truth with a touch of total lies. If ppl think that what the gov said is 100% true I have some beachfront property in the Midwest I got for ya;) the best lie has a
MrElectricstorm 1 week ago
@MrElectricstorm They were easy to calm because they were scared as fuck because they were told they were being terrorized by terrorists people will belive anything from anyone when there vulnerable, and the fuckin world was vulnerable on that day
randoms71 1 week ago
I personally believe it was swamp gas...
spliffslayer 1 week ago
What disturbs me! all this debris (crime scene) was thrown into trucks and dumped into the ocean... In a very short amount of time instead of taking it to a lab or something for careful examination of what really happened just seems to shady for me!!
jvri21 1 week ago
@jvri21 It wasnt thrown in to the ocean - it was sold as scrap metal.
Not examining the scene of the crime is illegal, but the govt had already broken loads of laws around that day so whats another 1
1965shug 1 week ago
@cresid
There are two Primary by-products of thermite, Aluminum Oxide and Barium Nitrate.
They make up 20-40% of the mixture respectively.
What the Truth movement commonly points to is deposits of IRON oxide, and sulfur, both making only 2% of the mixture, and could be found in materials of the Towers.
Only Alimnum Oxide, and Barium Nitrate have no business being there other than through thermite use, and neither have ever been shown to be there in any samples the Truth movement has provided.
Alaskaslim 1 week ago
@Alaskaslim Thats simply untrue.I suggest you visit journalof911studies and read the papers..
cappucinokid100 1 week ago 2
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@cappucinokid100
"Thats simply untrue."
Everything I've said is true, those two by products, are the primary left overs of Thermite:
pyroguide . com/index . php?title=Thermite
If you have a study showing their presence, point it out. Do not just give me a name, show me the reference.
Alaskaslim 1 week ago
@cappucinokid100 Instead of wasting my time looking at that. I will just apply the knowledge aquired during my education and career.and determine that Alaskaslim is completly correct in his statement.
avnergalil 1 week ago
@Alaskaslim What you said sounds good to a sheep. The evidence is against you. Eyewitnesses reports of massive explosions? Debris being whisked away to China? Steel beams conveniently blown into flat bed pieces for easy removal? Hotbeds of molten steal for days after the event? Satellite imagery of these hotbeds? Please be honest with yourself. Building #7 will always haunt the non-truther.
tadpoleposition 1 week ago
@tadpoleposition
"What you said sounds good to a sheep."
You're a sheep too, you just don't know it.
Somewhere, in some location, you too listen to some guy, wearing a suit that costs more than what you earn in a month.
"Hotbeds of molten steal for days after the event?"
Why does this matter? Are you using this as a justification for thermite?
I'm sorry, but thermite uses up its fuel within minutes, if not seconds, it wouldn't last that long. Something else has to cause it.
Alaskaslim 1 week ago
@Alaskaslim I LOVE you truth attackers because 99% of the time, your arguments are so completely asinine; spit on any semblance of common sense; defy all logic; it boggles my scrotum. With the complete and utter FUCKING LAUNDRY LIST of 100s to 1000s of things that have been uncovered that point to a conspiracy by the US gov't, NORAD, CIA, FBI... it goes on and on... you try to argue and debunk 1 DETAIL, completely inadequately at that with false information, and "truthers are the idiots." LOVE U
Vandalj 4 days ago
@Alaskaslim PLEASE DO go back to playing your vgs. Actually trying to speak any sense to a complete halfwit isn't worth the effort. Call me in Canada when you wake up to the fascist state you live in.
Vandalj 4 days ago
@Vandalj
"you try to argue and debunk 1 DETAIL, completely inadequately "
Actually. a lot of my information comes from Truther sites, want me to show you?
It's not my fault your side contradicts itself, or more to the point, you.
"Call me in Canada"
Canada? So you're even from here, and you think you know how NORAD operates, better then someone who served in the U.S. Air Force?
You gotta' admit, that's being just a tad full of yourself, do you even know the Airspace classes?
Alaskaslim 4 days ago
@Alaskaslim My point exactly with people like you. When did seeking TRUTH become "your side?" Gov't 100% lied about everything to do with the events. That isn't even a question anymore. If you choose to not believe that FACT, I pity you. Irrelevant, I lived in the US for over 7 years, but I'm full of myself becuz I have the common sense to see a false flag op? Apparently you're a tad full of yourself to think because you served, you know more. '05 London bombings are just as much b.s. TRUTH.
Vandalj 3 days ago
@Vandalj
"When did seeking TRUTH become "your side?""
I work in aviation, knowing what happened on 9/11 is my business, because MY industry was the one most affected, and occurred, because MY industry failed in a critical area.
We would know better than anyone what allowed 9/11 to occur, and know most in-depth what happened, because WE were omnipresent at every juncture.
Air Traffic control, the airlines, NORAD, all us, there was even an ATC guy at Pentagon.
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Alaskaslim I honestly can't even reply to your statements with a straight face. Being a baggage handler or ATC or whatever it is, your claim to fame, makes you enlightened to 9/11? Wow. I'm done here. The level of absurdity of your arrogant ignorance overwhelms any sensible logic. Chalk one up for America. YOU WIN. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Vandalj 3 days ago
@Vandalj
"your claim to fame, makes you enlightened to 9/11?"
It's simple, what industry was MOST affected by 9/11?
Considering EVERY major airline has gone bankrupt because of 9/11, the TSA was CREATED to moderate Aviation SPECIFICALLY out of the 9/11 legislation, and that AIRCRAFT were used as the weapons, it all came down to us, it's common sense.
If you don't know aviation, you don't know 9/11. Aviation security IS 9/11.
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Alaskaslim Do you actually have a drawerful of blindfolds to coordinate with your daily outfits or do you just go with a neutral tone, or black? Whatever you spewed out there is completely irrelevant to the TRUTH of those events. And WTF, the airlines were all bankrupt well before 2001. If you think 18 hijackers went through security and got onto planes, took them over, then flew those planes into WTC, and the Pentagon... I can show you how to make $1000/day working 2 hours from home.
Vandalj 3 days ago
@Vandalj
"the airlines were all bankrupt"
Wrong, you lack a fundamental understanding of how the airline business cycle works, it's unique unto itself and I will not try to explain it here. I was talking of chapter 11 bankruptcy, not Chapter 7, as Eastern Airlines went through. If you have a true interest in understanding this topic, PM me.
"irrelevant to the TRUTH "
Wrong, the "official story" hangs on the state of Aviation security, if you know that, you know if 9/11 was possible.
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Alaskaslim The "official story" is officially B.S. It's so blatantly obvious the NIST report was a hack carpet cleaning job. I honestly feel sorry for people that choose to feel safe in their comfort zones because they can't face the truth of reality. Knowledge and standing up for what's right isn't just invigorating and energizing; it's free thought that pushes people to create, to live life to the fullest, and live beyond the status quo. Best of luck to you sir.
Vandalj 3 days ago
@Vandalj
"The "official story" is officially B.S."
Answer this question; was it possible for terrorists to hijack these planes, and crash them into buildings? And if not, why?
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Alaskaslim I believe most answers to that are a resounding no unless of course, you're you, in which case, you know better because it's YOUR industry, as you've stated. I'm sure your credentials far outweigh the pilots and experts cited here. I suggest you google "The 911 Hijackers Amateur Aviators Who Became Super Pilots." And, Archs/Engrs for 9/11 Truth just spearheaded an official initiative that is going to be presented to Canadian Parliament with concrete evidence of explosives btw.
Vandalj 3 days ago
@Vandalj
"I believe most answers to that are a resounding no"
The industry disagrees with you.
Nothing at our airports would have stopped this, what would of triggered alarm? If they weren't carrying guns, our security didn't care.
Next, what would stop them from taking over the plane? Nothing.
Understand, there was once something called "The Common Strategy", which within, it was Airline policy, let me make this clear, AIRLINE POLICY, to turn over control to hijackers.
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Vandalj
So for the Hijackers to TAKE control of the aircraft, neither the Airport, nor Airlines would have stopped them, so that's a given.
Next part, could they have FLOWN the aircraft?
Yes, all they would have needed, were coordinates for their target.
The professional pilots already trimmed and configured the aircraft for flight, all the terrorists had to do, was program the Autopilot, and the plane would have flown ITSELF to the general area.
Next is the approach.
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Alaskaslim
The approach is the final few minutes of flight, where they dived & ran into the buildings, but before I get to that, I allow you verify what I just told you,so that we are on the same page.
Airport security is bad, Airline Policy ALLOW hijackers take control, and the Autopilot made getting the planes within sight of the buildings simple.
That's essentially what I've listed so far, any arguments to this?
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Alaskaslim You've skirted every issue that actually matters concerning the official story which was the whole point of this to begin. Is it possible hijackers got on planes, yes. Were the hijackers', the names officially released, the culprits? NO. Some are still alive. Could they have flown them? NO. Clearly you didn't read. Did planes bring down the towers? NO. Explosives. Did fire bring down 7? NO. Explosives. A bunch of monkeys could have gotten on the planes, doesn't mean jack
Vandalj 3 days ago
@Vandalj
"You've skirted every issue"
No, I asked the question "was it possible for terrorists to hijack these planes"?
You answered "no", I'm showing you you're wrong. They COULD hijack our planes, nothing would have stopped them, that's a FACTUAL point.
Next I will show how the APPROACH, the final part of the flight, was possible for them. Is the former point settled? Do you admit they COULD hijack these planes?
Just so you know, other planes of ours have been hijacked before.
Alaskaslim 3 days ago
@Alaskaslim Remote access fight control has been mandatory since the 1970's and would have immediately been able to prevent what happened, The next point is that the cabin is dead locked before the plane leaves the asphalt, pilots are instructed not to open that door no matter the level of threat the otherside.
DARTHMOBIUS 1 day ago
@DA
"Remote access fight control has been mandatory since the 1970's "
There is no such regulation anywhere in the FARs, further, Boeing was advertising they were trying to PERFECT such a system as late as 2005, it wasn't on the market yet, and it's still not.
I think you're just one those people whose Confused CAT I and CAT II landing systems for "remote control", want me to lay out the difference?
"the cabin is dead locked"
No it wasn't, it malfunctioned, happens all the time.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim I find it amusing how you ignore all the circumstances and evidence pointing to the conspiracy/cover up and pick out little arguments to assert your airline knowledge as if you're proving anything of relevance. Fact is, we'll never know if a remote system was used to direct those planes into the towers, but we're lead to believe the Bad News Bears of terrorism flew them instead.
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
"I find it amusing "
I'm going through it step by step with you, I'll get to the collapses later, but the flights came FIRST, thus I will address them FIRST.
If you're going to say the official story is fake, why NOT go through it all?
So this where we are;
1. They COULD hijack the aircraft.
2. They COULD fly these planes into the general area, the Autopilots made this easy
I'll continue onto; 3. the Approach, so long as you don't have any objections to the second there.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim C/P the entire Popular Mechanics article how they collapsed; I could care less. You're nobody. You can hypothesize as much as you like. You can also give me a point by point B.S. breakdown how NORAD simply bungled the entire day's events. That's the whole point of a coverup. Repeat. Repeat. B.S. covers TRUTH. The exact same training scenario played out in the London bus bombings as well. Training exercises. LOL. The audacity. You planning on telling me 7 wasn't a planned detonation?
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
"the entire Popular Mechanics"
... What about it? I'm not quoting them, are you?
Can I move on already? Do you have anything to say #2, or can I take it you admit they could hijack & fly the plane?
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
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@Alaskaslim I don't have anything to say. Party on Garth. I think this is funny. You're like Rain Man. You spew out irrelevance and ignore all questions to which you can't answer because there are no truthful answers, because the. whole. official. story. is. b.s.
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim Answer me 3 questions. Very simple. Black or white. Yes or no.
1. Do you believe 7 collapsed on its own?
2. Do you believe 19 Saudi hijackers acted alone and flew into WTC?
3. Do you believe there was no Gov't/Defense involvement? (including agencies ie. NSA, CIA)
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
No no, answer MY question first, THEN I will get to yours, stop stalling.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim Hahaha... you're jokes. I've sat here amused with you, wasting time but I won't go any further 'til you answer those questions. Pretty simple. Requires 3 simple words. If you can't do that, we're done here.
Vandalj 1 day ago
@Vandalj
Fine, if you're going to stubborn, then I'll continue
3. The Approach.
A. The WTC, they took it off autpilot, and dived... into the two of the largest standings structures in world, that's not hard.
B. United 93, they crashed.... I don't think even you will argue "difficulty" here.
C. The Pentagon.
Alright, 2 things, 1. the "pilot" here, Hani Hanjour, had completed multi-engine training, and had over 250 hours in Boeing simulators.
He flew 8 minutes himself, that's it.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
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@Vandalj
"I find it amusing "
I'm going through it step by step with you, I'll get to the collapses later, but the flights came FIRST, thus I will address them FIRST.
If you're going to say the official story is fake, why NOT go through it all?
So this where we are;
1. They COULD hijack the aircraft.
2. They COULD fly these planes into the general area, the Autopilots made this easy
I'll continue onto; 3. the Approach, so long as you don't have any objections to the second there.
Alaskaslim 1 day ago
@Alaskaslim I did not say it was a regulation. My Comment is in regards to technology, stop with the strawman. Convienient how the dead locks failed 4 times... Of cause one can also posit as plausible as the 'official line' Simply a training job got hi-jacked by slick operating psychopaths on behalf of neo-con oligarchs looking to concrette their interests, more plausible than 19 dissidents beating 999 Trillions dollars worth of global inteligence, security and clandestine firepower.
DARTHMOBIUS 20 hours ago
@DARTHMOBIUS
"My Comment is in regards to technology,"
No, YOU said it was REQUIRED.
When the airlines are REQUIRED to do something, IT IS PUT IN THE FARs, and in order to earn their operating license they have to MEET those FARs.
There is NO "auxiliary " rules, either it's in the FARs, or you were wrong, it's NOT required. And considering this technology has NEVER been perfected, it's asinine to even say so.
"more plausible than 19 dissidents "
Wrong, want me to explain?
Alaskaslim 18 hours ago
@Alaskaslim No I Said MANDATORY and again my statement is in regards to technology NOT superlative bullshit refrences to interlectualy masterbatory paperwork of beauracratic sesspits. No technology is ever perfected, only improved upon. Explain? No, You have nothing to explain that I haven't already heard before from a myriad of YT dilettantes.
DARTHMOBIUS 9 hours ago
@DARTHMOBIUS
"No I Said MANDATORY"
Doesn't matter, NOTHING is compelling Airlines to put such devices on their aircraft.
The FAA runs the ATC, if not them, then no one would be telling the airlines to do this.
"regards to technology"
That doesn't mean anything, if it's not a regulation, the airlines won't do it, they have a very thin profit margin on only half the years they operate, the other half they operate on a loss, they're not going to bother with something like this.
Alaskaslim 9 hours ago
@Alaskaslim The fact all alleged 19 hijackers were on watch lists with an immediate detain and arrest status means the "slip" at the airport shouldn't have happened with the 'significantly heightened level of terrorist threat issued to the FAA via the FBI from the CIA & NSA' But when you have ISI agents escorting shoe bombers on to a planes, and stating in FBI wiretaps that the attacks on 6 weeks before hand it all points to an agenda of opportunity ergo Inside Job.
DARTHMOBIUS 1 day ago
@Vandalj When RJL's RDX in the Dust was excised by NIST as apendice "D" it became carpet cleaning job.
DARTHMOBIUS 1 day ago
"And uhhhhh..... I was right ...." Oh that dubya, such a humanitarian. hauled your men , women and children's bodies to a landfill in China then told you are unpatriotic if you question it.
joecanukk 2 weeks ago
B "Its hard to ........" *maybe tell the truth?*
kkkerdokk 2 weeks ago
I don't see any evidence of 911 being a lie even tho I knew it was from day one..who would be stupid enough to believe those building would have collapsed like that just doesn't know anything about scientific reality
xadam2dudex 2 weeks ago
@xadam2dudex
The ASCE, ICE, Purdue University, OXford, and amny other trade organizations all have studies showing you're wrong.
Are you an Architect? A Civil Eningeer? No? Then how exactly does your "scientific reality" apply to anyone but yourself?
Your psuedo-science is a laugh to the true experts.
Alaskaslim 2 weeks ago
@Alaskaslim ICE ?? the immigration and customs enforcement ? I hate to tell u but it has been shown that the NIST's report has been shown to be fabricated those that are architect as well as Engineers have shown how false the reports are issued by the offical mouth pieces of the government ..do some research and don't be a sheeple ..unless u r one of the many disinformation agents online
xadam2dudex 2 weeks ago
@xadam2dudex
"ICE ?? "
ITE, my mistake.
"hate to tell u but it has been shown that the NIST's report has been shown to be fabricated"
Wrong. When the people who claim that, also claim the Government is manufacturing gays (and it IS Alex Jones and his ilk you're talking about, don't lie to me), it's not the NIST whose facts are suspect.
And the fact is, the ASCE backs them up, you have nothing to compare.
120,000 Civil engineers, and they're just the start.
Alaskaslim 2 weeks ago
@Alaskaslim lol...the only people supporting the government story is the government and their stooges...sorry u r willfully blind.. there is nothing that can be done to open ur eyes..since u refuse to accept the facts..every lie the government has spoken has been exposed..go back to ur matrix ..there is nothing more to say
xadam2dudex 2 weeks ago
@xadam2dudex
So you're saying the entire aviation industry, is their stooges?
The Allied Pilots Association? The 20,000 pilots who fly American Airlines jets?
The AOPA? The 140,000+ general aviation pilots and Airport/FBO operators?
"sorry u r willfully blind"
No, I just know more than you. When you work in aviation, you tend to know more about aircraft operations than those who don't.
I don't need the Gov't to know what happened, but you do, you just don't realize it.
Alaskaslim 2 weeks ago
This video is full of evidence of cut steel beams and what looks like thermite residue, no aluminum airplane regardless of its speed and amount of fuel can do that...
cresidue 2 weeks ago
@cresidue
"This video is full of evidence of cut steel beams"
Yes, AFTER the collaspe, done by the CLEAN UP crews.
Did you know that thermite has NEVER brought a structure down? Did you know no one is even sure it can?
The Demolition industry doesn't use it for this, but if it's "so effective", I wonder why?
Making claims about thermite is no more reasonable than if you said it was a laser.
Alaskaslim 2 weeks ago
@Alaskaslim It's usually pointless to respond to neophytes, but here goes:
1. There are hundreds of images before "clean up" ever began.
2. "The demolition industry" uses thermite to disengage key supports in building demolition as opposed to cutting torches which would put the crews at risk!
3. There is tons of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE which PROVES nano-thermite was used!
** Next time do some research before making asinine comments to something you obviously now nothing about!!
cresidue 1 week ago
@cresidue
1. Point to one then. every time I see this issue is brought up, they show pictures from after, not before. I can link you to articles that do just that if you want, and I hope they're not the same as yours.
2. Wrong, 11 demolition companies in New York CONFIRMED that's not their term. The closest meaning was pulling a building down with cables, just as they did with WTC 6,
3. There is none, just pointing to chemicals traces which are in thermite, but also in other things.
Alaskaslim 1 week ago
@Alaskaslim You're right, all the eyewitness reports, all the chemical evidence, the thousands of professors, scientists, engineers & architects who independently analyzed the dust & debris and filed a petition against Congress are all lying. I've done years of research and you have obviously done zero true investigation! You are most likely a troll or some moose banger, so keep living your personal delusion while the rest of us live in reality! BTW, it was WTC #7, you clueless wonder!! Ba bye.
cresidue 1 week ago
@cresidue
"all the eyewitness reports"
None of whom support you, I can quote three fiirefighter on video who were there that debunk your claims.
I can quote the NORAD pilots, and a C-130 pilot who followed flight 77.
Are they lying? I doubt it.
"engineers & architects who independently analyzed "
Yet had NO peer review, and NO industry or international fellowship who backs them up.
1,000s of the professional organizations did their own studies, and they all came down against you.
Alaskaslim 1 week ago
What I would like to know is where did all the debris from the wtc go, they would'v e had toe put it somewhere does anyone know where??????
AscendedMasters1 2 weeks ago
@AscendedMasters1 Sold to China.
needlepusher 2 weeks ago
bush is a dirty nazi bastard who has given the american public tirany instead of freedom....
19markyboy79 3 weeks ago
It's just so amazing that all that burning office furniture burned for 3 months despite the best efforts of firefighters to extinguish them. That "office furniture" must have been some truly hot shit! I should get some for my wood stove. (lol)
If you buy the gov't story about 9/11, then you must believe all the laws of physics collapsed that day as well.
silkcat51 3 weeks ago
9/11 was done by pissed off Muslims.
Churchj84 3 weeks ago
So much background laughter in the beginning of the video- Like celebration was in the air..
RoseCitySoul 3 weeks ago
@R3VoltUK You are going on a 11 year old article which has been proven incorrect. Look here. -> 911myths.com/index.php/Hijackers_still_alive
Also, none of those towers we're a controlled demolition. Source -Experience.
triptechable 3 weeks ago
@R3VoltUK They are not still alive.
triptechable 3 weeks ago
@R3VoltUK Do you what thermite is? How it is made? You do? Good. Now take the potential for aluminum and or iron to be virtually vaporized in pressures such as a building collapse - add a heat source like a burning gas main or jet fuel or even diesel. What do you then get? A perfect scenario to effectively create thermite. Jesus.
triptechable 3 weeks ago
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@R3VoltUK The people here who oppose you on this site (and others) are US Army Psychological Operations specialists.
US Army Procedure manual is easy to GOOGLE.
"FM 3-05.301 (FM 33-1-1)
MCRP 3-40.6A Psychological Operations Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures"
Next, youtube: "STATES SECRET PRIVILEGE" and learn why/how USGov gets away with false flag terrorism like OK City and 9/11.
dpetrano 3 weeks ago
@R3VoltUK And Jesus is alive too. And Lenin. And Lennon. And Santa Clause is reall, just like the Easter Bunny.
Sorry I won't buy that.
DiBacci 3 weeks ago
I don't have any kind of sympathy or respect for Bush & his gang, but these inside job-theories are so fucking lame.
DiBacci 3 weeks ago
Its highly unlikely that someone would destroy one of his economic centers to get a reason to start a costly war.This is a secret service Psyop against the US to divide the people from the government to paralyse the US.
My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half years by the german BND.He was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage. Examples of torture and steering in Germany are found on my channel in the videos on Anneliese Michel and the RAF members.
Martin Bott
wwwtotalitaerde 3 weeks ago
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@wwwtotalitaerde Please excuse his mental illness. Martin Bott (wwwtotalitaerde) is suffering from a psychosis that makes him believe the government is after him, controlling minds everywhere etc. >_> His allegedly murdered brother even went to court against him because he didn’t want him to use his name for that nonsense. Now he sticks to defaming my country in Youtube videos. He’s a madman and wants to make his shitty conspiracy-homepage look important, nothing else.
xSuperiorManx 3 weeks ago
9/11 was a horrible injustice to the American People, whether by it's own Government or Someone Else, the fact still remains that Forensics and Science, DO NOT LIE, Presidents, The Government and ALL it's Offices DO!!!
eoddatsme 4 weeks ago
But since it's been pounded into the heads of the American people since birth that it is not good to question authority these things just go unchecked. Evil will succeed if good men do nothing is something I believe wholeheartedly.
mamasorus 1 month ago
lies all fuck you the only good president was jfk ,and george y boy
AliasHanz 1 month ago
Listening to the President convey his impressions in regard to the scene is enough to know that HE knew how it all went down. No real emotion is conveyed by him. Such a lame response.
Also, we can clearly see steel beams that show evidence of being cut via melting. Cut, not twisted from softening due to progressive heating in a fire. And what one responder refers to as smoke....that is steam, folks. There is a lot of molten metal under that pile.
aaronjohnmaughan 1 month ago
why was it an inside job?
TheErichAlex 1 month ago
@TheErichAlex Because it was inside of a building. wtf....
mamasorus 1 month ago
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It was another israeli false flag operation. Plain and Simple
Frankybroadcast 1 month ago
Cut steal and twisted beams. Steal spear shot into other buildings. Official story is fantasy.
KevinR242 1 month ago 12
what does this prove? gravy
makethemyth 1 month ago
9/11 brought to you by the US Govt and Bush
insanity23mike 1 month ago
The Manhattan Project was known immediately following WWII. Before you go around being an ignorant fool think and research. One of the people you were arguing with was a marine with 21 years of service. That man deserves respect of the highest degree. If any one is pissing on anyone's graves, it is in fact you.
JusticeDoGood 1 month ago
If Kurt Sonnenfeld does not put his video of 9/11 on the web he is as good as dead. If we all see it then it will become common knowledge and maybe something can be done. I mean they can't kill us all. Can they?
mamasorus 1 month ago
@mamasorus They can kill him or his family.
monsteripolo 1 month ago
@monsteripolo yep that is what my comment says: that if he doesn't make the tapes public THEY WILL KILL HIM.
mamasorus 1 month ago
@mamasorus I know. I was not trying to attack you, sorry if it seemed that way. But that is why he does not release the video in the first place. You know? Sometimes, when I read the paper and see the news I feel I cant take that much corruption and injustice. It really pains me, truthfully.
monsteripolo 1 month ago
@monsteripolo np. I didn't think you were attacking me. All I'm saying is that if everybody sees the videos there is no need to kill him because everyone will know the truth not just him. Your pain is shared by millions of people that are going thru the same thing myself included. But evil will succeed if good men do nothing.
mamasorus 1 month ago
You guys all know your living on another planet right?
dirtyd28ks 1 month ago
the lady bush is shaking hands with at the start is evelyn rothschild, family owns majority of federal reserve and was behind the whole 9/11 events - estimated net worth somewhere north of 500 trillion
teamtumbleweed 1 month ago
@teamtumbleweed wow really???? :O I just found out who the rothschilds and rockefellers are and what they're seemingly up to. Its all unfortunatley starting to make sense to me. Now i wish i didnt vote for certain people :/
maharley27 1 month ago 8
@maharley27 It would make no difference. Now your journey has started, look up Bohemian Grove. Good luck & travel well.
jimmythefoolmusic 1 week ago
8:57 -A steel beam was cut at a steep angle on both ends
JimtheHermit1 1 month ago
@JimtheHermit1 Yeah, they do that when they're building steel structures.
cgl11111111111111111 1 month ago
@cgl11111111111111111 Have you ever looked at a steel beam?
JimtheHermit1 1 month ago
hope you dont get any asbestos related diseases from breathing in all that poison air.
2200BK 1 month ago
6:00 a thermite or White phosphorus flash? 6:09 clean cut beam - shape charge which helped bring the building down, or cut after the fall to remove large sections?
asuwish0000 1 month ago
I like how of all the planes, the one that didn't reach its target was the one headed for the white house
suntannedmedal 1 month ago
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John57154 1 month ago
That information presented was fraudulent and does not match up with actual events occurring 9/11.. People need to stop being blindly led by media and gullible.. There was a major cover up by American government..
jtaylo74 1 month ago
Netflix Loose Change 9/11: An American Coupe and you CANNOT tell me the government orchestrated coverup to a certain degree.. These buildings BOTH collapsed in 10 sec.. Not to mention the black guy interviewed near the end who lived through that 3rd building collapsing was killed and "no further investigation" was permitted. The government won't even allow any further investigation on any of it even tho multiple CIA and FBI Agents of close to 3 decades, A.K.A. highly ranked, state explicitly th
jtaylo74 1 month ago
I really am starting to believe small nukes were used in this demolition
Jimbofx911 1 month ago
You know what bush said to cheney, kissenger and rumsfeld...?... There will be lots of questions.....
Za7a7aZ 1 month ago
presidents, the best actors in the world
suckmadeck 1 month ago
Bush's comments are so disingenuous.
JET997u 1 month ago
CORRECTION MR. BUSH. Pardon me but YOU where the first act of war in America in the 21st century! Bush = war criminal
dirtypossem 1 month ago
he could barely hold back a smile when he talked about being shocked
mikewade322 1 month ago
if there is all this powerful jet fuel that can melt steel and bring down buildings, how the heck are they finding the terrorists passports. I can burn a passport with a match let alone gallons of jet fuel.
bdawgz 1 month ago
what was the little orange flash in 6:03
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emetts2112 2 months ago
You people are unfucking unbelievable, you will grasp at anything to try to make your point seem like the truth. First it's a controlled demo, then Missiles, then no plains. Now Asbestos? Really? You people need to get a life, something. Oh, I'm sorry, most of you are probably with the 99%ers (OWS'ers) and don't have a job and feel that it's the Gov responsibility to give you a job, and a house, and other peoples money even though they pulled off this magical plot that you figured out.
XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX 2 months ago
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX Go find the plane wings from the Pentagon you clever curious guy
keflar5 2 months ago
@keflar5 Are you a A/C crash investigator? I was on an Emergency Reclamation Team that was sent to recover assets off an A-6 that went down in the Croatan National Forest due to a bird strike on take off. There was not much left of the A/C, nothing larger then a 2'x3' pc. and that was hitting swampy muck that you sank in up to your thigh. So don't come off to me like you know what the fuck you're talking about "YOU CLEVER CURIOUS GUY"! Go find your fucking brain!
XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX 1 month ago
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@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX
It really doesn't matter anyway. You still think this is the way it will always be eh? Everything we see in the western world is built on and maintained by depleting reserves of cheap non renewable fossil fuels. The sustainability prospect was zero from get go. But they don't wan't people to now THAT of course because it would damage the dream. They will continue to bail out and prop up the dream until they no long can and then everyone will see it was a lie.
hiperion900 1 month ago
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keflar5 1 month ago
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if you are a A/C crash specialist, THEN GIVE YOUR REAL NAME instead of hiding behind an anonymous name like the disinfo coward USGov shill you truly are.
9/11 was an inside job.
David F. Petrano, Esq (FL) member, Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, member, United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida, member, the Florida Bar.
dpetrano 1 month ago
@dpetrano Never said I was an A/C crash specialist what I said is that I was on an A/C reclamation team and was giving fax as I saw them. 99% of the people on the net use anonymous names. I will tell you that I am a retired Marine with 21yrs of service in the air wing and I am def not a shill. You on the other hand are taking money from misguided people and creating bullshit because you are a shit lawyer in the most screwed up legal system in the country.
XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX 1 month ago
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX Say what you will. 9/11 was an inside job. Steel frame buildings on petro-fire don't go puff-ka-boom.
And if you are pitching typical USGov shill BS that USGov can't conspire to keep big things secret, I say MANHATTAN PROJECT proves you wrong.
If you're a Marine, know this. You piss on the graves of those 3000 souls burned alive by advocating moronic, brain-dead "semper fi" theories about 19 boxcuttin' Muslims.
dpetrano 1 month ago
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@keflar5 Are you a A/C crash investigator? I was on an Emergency Reclamation Team that was sent to recover assets off an A-6 that went down in the Croatan National Forest due to a bird strike on take off. There was not much left of the A/C, nothing larger then a 2'x3' pc. and that was hitting swampy muck that you sank in up to your thigh. So don't come off to me like you know what the fuck you're talking about "YOU CLEVER CURIOUS GUY"! Go find your fucking brain!
XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX 1 month ago
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX Well the thing is: It's a lot easier to prove this was a conspiracy then to prove it wasn't. The evidence is stacked against them, it really is. The only thing you can say was. "No, that didn't happen. The middle east hijacked your planes." If you get right into the details and evidence, it's stacked against you.
DGrant1010 2 months ago
@DGrant1010 What proff do you have? Look all of you that live in America and think it's so bad and UNFAIR, leave. Pack your shit and go live some where else. This country is so fair we will let you leave. Now just try to get into another country and live as we do here. Try Mexico or hey since Hiperion900 brought it up go to Zimbabwe you'll love it there
XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX 1 month ago
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX I'm Canadian. Lol. I have free health care. But that's besides the point. I was only pointing out a flaw. I said it's a lot easier to prove it was a set up, than it wasn't. I havn't seen too many videos that prove the conspiracy theorists wrong. The buildings falling at free fall speed is very difficult to fight. Let alone them collapsing in the first place. They were built with that scenario in mind.
DGrant1010 1 month ago
@DGrant1010 your health care is anything but free
placidDUNDAS 1 month ago
@DGrant1010 That explains alot. Yah I heard about your free medcal from Canadians I was with in Italy during the Bosnian war, NO THANK YOU! No shit, they fell at free fall speed. You think that the steel has to be melted befor it loses its integrity? Should it have stoped falling at each floor for a few seconds then collapsed? Yes they were built with a plane crash in mind but not as big of a plane. When they were built there were no planes that size.
XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX 1 month ago
@XX1SICKNTWISTED1XX Look at earthquake proof buildings. An earthquake doesn't come through and level them without some sort of resistance. Those buildings didn't crumble. Those buildings collapsed.
DGrant1010 1 month ago
@DGrant1010 Actually, the towers DUSTIFIED, they did NOT collapse; to the contrary, they turned into DUST. What occurred on 9/11 was completely inconsistent with jet fuel fires or explosions, but more in-line w/ damaged caused by directed energy weapons or nuclear. Google "9/11 directed energy weapons"
dpetrano 1 month ago
@dpetrano They did no such thing. There were massive sections of the outer columns still largely intact. Some people survived in staircases near the bottom of the buildings. There were huge pieces of steel carted away for weeks. They were far from "dustified." (not a word, by the way.)
KidMeatball 1 month ago
@KidMeatball, if you still buy-into the "Official" theory about the 19 Muslims w/ boxcutters, then this discussion stops here/now, so read no further.
If you suspect "an inside job," as I do, read-up on the findings of a material science PhD named Judy Woods, who demonstrates via genuine photos WTC 1,2 were mostly turned into dust, in a manner consistent w/ only direct energy weapondry and/or nukes, but most certainly NOT jet fuel or thermite/thermate. "
dpetrano 1 month ago
@dpetrano Got any estimates about how much of the building was "dustified?"
KidMeatball 1 month ago
@KidMeatball, I have spent some time lately researching into the findings of a PhdD material science engineer named Judy Woods, who clearly explains via the actual 9/11 photos, the enormous amount of dust could have only been accomplished by directed energy weapons. google "9/11 directed energy weapons." I know it sounds crazy, as i thought it did , but if you listen to her reasoning and check out the science, you will likely take interest in what she has to say.
dpetrano 1 month ago
@dpetrano So, you're not going to answer my question. You claim, ahem, the towers "were mostly turned to dust." Without numbers to back this up, this simply goes down as more truther BS. How much of the towers were turned to dust?
KidMeatball 1 month ago
@KidMeatball, the pics of the collapse/destruction (whatever you call it) speak for themselves. The 9/11 DUST went everywhere down the entire eastern seaboard.
If you need "proof" of duct in terms of numbers, then you also deny Hiroshima turned mostly to dust as well, b/c there's was no accounting for Hiroshima's structures after the A-blast, but a few contorted steel frames. Hiroshima, like the twin towers, WAS TURNED TO DUST.
dpetrano 1 month ago
@dpetrano Hiroshima caused a shockwave that completely leveled 16 miles of the city. Not even comparable to this event. Second, Judy Woods uses the word "dustification." Not a word. Third, she uses video of a dust covered steel structure collapsing as evidence of steel turning into dust. Fourth, you still didn't answer my question.
Try this one, was WTC 7 also turned to dust in a similar manner?
KidMeatball 1 month ago
@KidMeatball, Judy woods, like myself, have adapted the non-word "DUSTIFICATION" because it is the only thing that makes sense, given the images in the photos. Really, if you believe USGov orchestrated 9/11 in some way, take some time to educate yourself on what Dr. Woods has to say.
In the meantime, realize no one other than the people who orchestrated 9/11 know what really happened. What's certain is it was not the result of a jet fuel fire and 19 guys w/ boxcutters.
dpetrano 1 month ago