You can kill or get men killed but that is not destroying an army. Clearly they aren't destroyed because they exist currently and are functioning pretty well.
Anything Obama says and/or does, Republicans and his other opponents will disagree vehemently. It's really that simple. He gave the authorization (just like Bush gave the authorizations to invade and occupy a country that posed not threat to use) to covertly go in, kill bin Laden, take out his body, and leave unscathed, which they did, and they did it brilliantly. Bush wasn't able to do that for the last 8 miserable years. McCain must hate how stupid he looks now.
@Dookiestix You're absolutely correct on almost everything you said..bin Laden would be alive and planning more attacks today if Republicans were still in charge, but John McCain showed tons of class last week when he stepped up, got all the intel, and proved the Republicans wrong for trying to claim credit for bin Laden by lying and saying it was because of torture. I was impressed that he called his own party out for that.
So, basically both McCain and Clinton distorted Obama's words, claiming he said he wanted to invade Pakistan (when he never said it). Yet, when he eventually took out Osama, he never actually invaded anybody and raided a compound and killed that mother fucker.
So what McCain is saying, is that its not ok to let the American people who voted for you or who now see you as the President know what your true objective is in the middle east when he called Obama being naive to broadcast what his objective in the Middle East was. How hypocritical and shows that the majority of Americans voted for the right guy.
@ FatBoyBread: I am not black and I voted for President Obama. I am appalled by your ignorance! Your comments are a disgrace to the HUMAN race! May God have mercy on your demented soul!
am i the only one who smells rotten fishy propaganda within and all around Black Jesus on this story ... are we such a lemming minded species as it seems ....
@ultravulva --Bin Laden did not get blown up, he was not hit by a bomb, navy seals came in via helicopter. Obama made the decisions early in his term to do more in Pakistan. Obama gave the order to violate Pakistan's sovrenty to go in. It could have been "black hawk down", or just some rich guys house. It was a HUGE gamble. It worked, and he should get credit for it paying off.
"...work with the other country?" What was McCain smoking? If Obama would have done what McCain suggested, Bin Laden would have been tipped off ahead of time and it would have been a disaster. Good for Americans to have good enough sense to elect Obama and not McCain.
I also know that but my point was the vast majority of Iranians actually oppose Osama even the sunni's. But the Govt as well... now one might argue the enemy of my enemy is my friend, true, but the Ayatollah would much rather have Osama in Afghanistan sowing destruction and chaos then to be caught harboring him.
@Kooshkoff But Iran and Afghanistan under the Taleban were not allies either... both had their skirmishes and Iran definitely would not want to be caught harboring Osama after what happened to Saddam. Plus Osama and the Ayatollah - two different religions mate. One is Shia and the other is Sunni.
@Kooshkoff The US provided the weapons and the money but the Pakistan Military and the ISI handed the money out to Afghanistan rebels, the Muhajideen. Osama at the time had just arrived and although he built contacts with Pakistan Generals he also set up his own camp and asked for volunteer fighters and he paid for everything or nearly everything with his inheritance from Saudi Arabia... obviously hoping to cash in later. It wasnt until 1988 that Osama split from Maktab al-Khidamat and formed AQ
@Kooshkoff I dont think Osama was the one we were paying directly and if we were then he was just some regional leader and not the overall head of the Russian opposition forces... who by all accounts were much more divided then the Libyan rebels. But the cause of the Taleban rise is that after the war we left and the NA could not hold the ground on their own.
@Kooshkoff Of course I have... Afghanistan Pakistan border, waziristan, unmonitored and very rugged, easier for Osama to escape through but he also had to hide himself from locals who would have turned him over for the bounty.
However try and go from Tora Bora to Iran is nearly impossible, The Iranian border is much less rugged and more heavily monitored.
@Kooshkoff Why the hell would Obama make this up?? That makes no sense whatsoever he could be proved a liar by Osama himself and be made a fool of. His popularity will drop like an anvil and he would be doomed for the rest of his administration. People who demand proof of Osamas death are the same conspiracy nuts to doubt EVERYTHING because they were not physically there to witness it.
@Kooshkoff Osama was never employed by the US. The Northern Alliance was Employed by the CIA. After the war and the US pulled out a civil war, albeit brief, erupted and the Northern Alliance split into the Taleban and the NA who withdrew to the northern part of the country and waited until 2001 when they can retake the country.
@Kooshkoff 3 wives I think... but it was safer for him to hide there then try and get to Iran. IF he could have escaped to Iran in 2001 then thats one thing but he only had access to Pakistan. US forces moved into the Eastern part of Afghanistan in the early part of the invasion and Osama would have had a hell of a time trying to get past them and into Iran but if he did then he would have to get past the Iranian military who monitors the border like hawks, they have drug smuggling problems.
@Kooshkoff Yes because Obama gave an order to move in and capture Osama dead or alive and the blame rests with him. The Operation was run from the ground if the seals shot and killed Osama then they had a reasonable excuse to do so. Plus nothing would come out of an Interrogation. Osama is some low grunt who would crack the guy even said repeatedly that he would not be taken alive. He may have been reaching for a knife or AK before he was shot and killed. All the valuable intel was recovered.
@Kooshkoff Osama had coke in there... what looks like coke and a weighing machine. He was prob collecting opium and coke and selling it for some quick cash... he prob didnt need a porn collection cause he had 3 wives who he could fuck all he want.
@Kooshkoff Newsmedia are accusing them of harboring Osama, not the US govt. Obama is smart enough to know to bury Osama in the sea within 24 hours in order to avoid angering religious muslims he is smart enough to know not to accuse Pakistan of something without evidence and so far there is no evidence to suggest Pakistan willingly hid Osama Bin Laden. The guy was just smart enough to hide in the one place his enemy wouldnt look.
@Kooshkoff They did find Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Where have you been? Remember Tora Bora? Osama escaped the dragnet early on though and got into Pakistan where the trail went cold. We know he was in Afghanistan why are you claiming he wasnt?
Afghanistan has been divided and war torn since 1980... when Russia Invaded. Before that it was another prosperous united semi democratic state in the far east with its usual left/right disagreements. Most of the upperclass fled so we installed warlords.
@Kooshkoff Osama is more of a figure head, someone who inspires the rest of the followers... plus he had tons and tons of valuable intel that most if not all will prove valuable until the targets get away.
Not looking for a fight, just saying that if you think that video's of Bin Laden's "confession" to 9/11 (among many others) are accurately translated by Fox, CNN, NBC, etc. Then not only are you naive, you're just plain wrong. I'm NOT saying Bin Laden isn't responsible... Just research it for yourself, don't be a drone to corporate media like everyone else...
Not looking for a fight, just saying that if you think that video's of Bin Laden's "confession" to 9/11 (among many others) are accurately translated by Fox, CNN, NBC, etc. Then not only are you naive, you're just plain wrong. I'm NOT saying Bin Laden isn't responsible... Just research it for yourself, don't be a drone to corporate media like everyone else....
So, what you're saying is the US legal system might not be good enough to convict Bin Laden for something that he did, so just shoot the bastard, right?
Did you know that when Nazi Political leaders were captured during WWII executing them without a trial wasn't even on the table? President Truman said that it would be a "poison chalice" to future generations. Apparently his wisdom has not been heeded.
@DBLeiii Bin Laden was not a criminal. He was the leader of a quasi-military organization that declared war on a foreign and sovereign nation, and thus was a target for military action. Surely he could have strolled down to the Paki military academy and turned himself in anytime during the past five years. Since you brought up WWII, if anything the mission against Bin Laden has a parallel to the mission to assassinate Adm. Isoroku Yamamoto, in which the US acted on intelligence.
John McCane is SUCH a fucking jerk and pompous ass-hole --he couldn't generate enough intertest to get a double-digit IQ racist population to vote for his sorry ass.
@MrAlecaf It's just because he doesn't think about what he is about to do. Also he still has not got any troops out and he has destroy the economy raise the deficit, raise gas prices. Each and everyone of these things is way more important then killing Osama.
@gigaboy47 The economy was done by 2008. Only adding tens of thousands of jobs a month is bad, but its better than losing 600,000 in one month, like we were doing at the end of 2008. Gas was more expensive in the summer of 08 as well. But then it was because of the price of oil. A barrel of oil is 60 dollars cheaper than it was in the summer of 08, but the gas prices are the same. The oil companies are now getting even MORE rich off the suffering of middle and lower class American...
@Kooshkoff There is overwhelming evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11. Not the least of which was a video of him taking credit for it. But like I said, there's no point arguing with crazy. You're immune to reality. So I'm going to take my own advice and leave you to wallow in your own insanity. Enjoy.
@Kooshkoff Unlike you, I have a background in science. These scam artists are claiming to produce hydrogen through electrolysis of water. Their first major problem is electrolysis results in a net energy loss when used in this way. Putting other problems aside for the moment, the batteries would quickly drain and you would have no more electricity to produce fuel. The second major problem is electrolysis is a relatively slow process. You can't produce fuel quickly enough.
@Kooshkoff sorry to break it to you, but this is a hoax. it's tied to investment scams. send them your money and let me know how soon your car is running on water.
@Kooshkoff The fact is Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. He even confessed to it on tape. The problem is the mentally insane will dismiss any and all evidence out of hand and call it fake. You appear to belong to this group. So like I said, there's no point arguing with crazy people. Reality has no effect on you.
As for going straight for bin Laden, we did. He was in Afghanistan. He hid in Pakistan after we invaded. But in the mind of the deranged, I'm guessing that never happened too.
I'm trying to prove people AREN'T stupid simply for having a different viewpoint than you. You said I was arguing to prove intelligence. The opposite to me isn't arguing to prove stupidity, but rather arguing to not prove intelligence one way or another.
I don't think you're stupid for having doubts, I just think you shouldn't think less of others for not sharing the same doubts.
Did you not even watch your own video? Look at all the attacks on everyone in those comments, talking about how stupid all the Americans are for believing what they are told, and not automatically disbelieving it.
AGAIN, I come back to the proof of God argument. When you lambasting anyone for believing or not believing in a creator, you may as well be attacking your own intelligence.
I wasn't arguing to prove intelligence. In fact, I was arguing to prove the opposite. If you never believe what's said, then you aren't any more intelligent than someone who ALWAYS believes what's said.
My own intelligence was never a topic here, but what offended me was how you (maybe inadvertently) questioned it.
I'm exposing a double standard as well. Nothing I said here would indicate I completely dismiss the notion that what is being told to us isn't entirely factual, but you still tell me I need a "wake up call" and you still attempted to point to whatever evidence was given as evidence of the contrary, which is what leads me back to the proof of God argument.
If all you intend is for people to not think so one-sided, then I concede and I say bye, but you you do't come across this way.
I only attack people's intelligence when I can tell they are attacking mine, but think they are smarter than me to the point where I won't pick up on it.
But you ARE trying to convert me. You try to convert those around you by attacking their intelligence, all for motivations stemming from the same amount of evidence you are provided.
If I said God existed, and you said "No he doesn't, you moron" you are trying to convert me into believing he doesn't exist by making me feel my side is the side morons take, all the meanwhile you have as much evidence as I do.
Deep down inside, you do, that's why you cling to this alternate reality/explanation of things. A reality where you are better than the masses because only you have the special information that nobody else has, which in turn makes you special, and them not.
This is the psychology behind your mentality about things. I don't know why you do it entirely, but I do know people like you have always existed, and you are part of a proper unique balancing in mass human perception.
The fact that you don't see this is what baffles me. Back on to the topic of God: When someone tells me to prove God doesn't exist, I ask them to prove he DOES exist.
Your attacks may as well be directed at yourself as well.
Look, it's much more logical to take what they say as at least partial truth, then DECIDE it's a lie later when reasonable doubt exists.
You're no better than all these other conspiracy nuts I meet. You simply think you're better than everyone else because you don't believe what they believe, all while simultaneously believing in something opposite with equal or less evidence.
No, it's completely relevant, because whether I believe it or you don't believe it, the fact is, neither of us speak Arabic, so if you're going to attack me for this, I can easily attack you for the opposite.
From this conversation, there's NOTHING to indicate that I never have doubts about the information that comes down the pipes, but because of my explanation as to why OBL is credited for 9/11, clearly I'm just the most gullible person in the world.
Queue the guy who doesn't believe a word said, no matter what? I mean seriously, it's one thing to never question what's said, but it's just as idiotic to instead cling to an alternate reality no matter what.
What wakeup call? I meet people online all the time who think they're better than everyone else simply because they ALWAYS look at their own explanation of things.
As far as trusting government intelligence at it's word, this is clearly you just trying to start an argument and bait me into conspiracy theorist bs. I said intelligence and OBL's own admission is what linked him to 9/11, now you think you've got some amazing point? You're just a jerk! Get over yourself, fool.
Why would I subject myself to any religion when such severe amounts of fallacy is so blatant?
I can only hope the wicked are punished, and the good are rewarded, but there's no proof of that, and never has been.
The thing about something like Christianity is that people miss the intention, and end up ruining their lives devoting themselves to insanity, without even realizing it. Look at the creationist threat to Science classes across the nation. Look at religion in politics.
Neither believe or disbelieve in God. A god belonging to a specific religion, I don't believe in. So with Christianity, I don't believe in God. But the idea of a creator isn't something I'll confidently deny because I'm unable to.
@Kooshkoff America is wrong on many things, going to war when they shouldn't, ending wars they would win because of political concerns, mistreating some people, while erroneously holding up others as paragons of virtue. America is flawed. As are all other countires, since flawed human beings run them the same way flawed humans run the US. I simply responded to the assertion Afghanistan has never been conquered before, since it is an often mistated lie I wanted to clarify. all the best
Intelligence links him to 9/11, as well as his own admission to it.
Again, you keep turning this into a different discussion than I intended. We went to Afghanistan and that's why he fled to Pakistan. If we started in Pakistan, we would have not found him lol.
@Kooshkoff lol... I actually am curious. Have you ever been diagnosed and/or treated for any mental disorders? I don't ask due to any inability on my part to debate. But because I suspect that's the source of your inability to think rationally.
@Kooshkoff I think I made that distinction already n'est ce que pas ? the history of Afghansitan is more than a few hundred years old, its older than America
@Kooshkoff I think the first poster was correct about you. But I'll go one step further in stating that you're most likely not mentally stable. Have you ever been prescribed medication for a metal disorder? I'm sensing a bit of obsessive compulsive disorder, possibly bordering on paranoid schizophrenia.
@Kooshkoff We don't have the technology to be anything other than an oil-based economy. Until we do, a military presence in the Middle East is a necessary evil. Try living one day without oil-based products. You can start by turning off your computer.
@Kooshkoff You really must be 5. In that case, you should read a history book. Before you were born, there was a separate war in the Middle East. Saddam Huissein invaded Kuwait and threatened to keep going into Saudi Arabia. The United Nations immediately condemned his invasion and authorized military force to drive him out of Kuwait. The first Gulf War was completely justified. Bin Laden created al quaida in response to this war. The second Gulf War was a mistake, but had nothing to do with it
@Kooshkoff How old are you? 5? The simple reality is we are an oil-based economy. If we're not in the Middle East, we're not getting oil. And civilization as we know it would collapse.
@Kooshkoff It looks to me like he's saying bin Laden created al quaida in response to America defending our allies and oil interests in the Middle East. It's a bit more complicated than your simplistic world view. America's involvement in the Middle East was not only justified, it was necessary, as reflected by the UN resolution that called for military action.
@Kooshkoff Darius of Persian empire also conquered them. So you were wrong when you said "no on ever conquered Afghanistan", history is not 100-200 years old, it goes back thousands of years. People argue about American imperialism all the time. Its not an empire in the traditional sense, but it is in a new post modern cultural imperialist kind of way. the american's won't conquer Afghanistan, but that is a will issue not a capability one.
Emotion has more dynamic than just happy or sad. You can feel happy that OBL is dead, while simultaneously feeling angry that so many resources were blatantly wasted in pursuing him.
You can feel joy in knowing OBL won't recruit anyone else for his evil agenda, and sad for the good and decent American lives lost on both 9/11 or in these wars.
@Kooshkoff You're doing very little to convince me you're not sitting in a pile of your own shit, picking the peanuts out of it and eating them.
Al quaida was formed in response to our involvement in the first Gulf War. You might remember when someone named Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait and was poised to invade Saudi Arabia. If that had happened he would have controlled half the world's oil reserves. We, along with the rest of the world, had no choice but to act.
of course what you said is correct. but you are avoiding the point. Mccain was criticizing Obama for threatening a soveriegn nation...just after he had been threatening a soveriegn nation. its called hypocrisy.
furthermore, its pretty clear now that Pakistan isnt the ally that Mccain thought they were...
@Kooshkoff You're not even forming a coherent argument. You went from claiming getting bin Laden would create more terrorists and Pakistan would quit cooperating with us (if they were ever cooperating at all) to spewing tangents that in no way support your original argument.
So like I said, you have the mental abilities of a complete retard. And as I suspected, there's no point arguing with you, as you're incapable of reasoned thought.
@Kooshkoff Maybe because Obama knew Pakistan for what it is. An enemy of the United States that's only pretending to bow to pressure. They were clearly harboring bin Laden. Obama had the courage to tell them that if they were unwilling to take him out, we would.
McCain on the other hand said repeatedly that he would have worked with Pakistan on any operation. If MacCain had won, bin Laden would still be free.
@3chicspolitico Obama is a bitch, he would get shot up before he made it to the door. Obama didn't do shit except sat there and watch on tv, no credit for him, all goes to the honorable Navy Seals.
@Kooshkoff Pakistan receives about 10% of its budget in the form of aid from the US and our allies. They need us to prop them up more than we need them.
The general population in Pakistan is not outraged that we took him out. They are embarrassed that he was living in a major city for 6 years. That's not exactly going to foster terrorism.
Muslim support for bin Laden had dropped off the map. You don't see protests in the streets, if anything there is a sense of relief.
@Kooshkoff Really!? reeeaaallllyyy? "we're screwed." it took us two weeks to invade and take over Iraq, which by the way was unnecessary. Even if Pakistan nationally retaliated how would they. it is one of the poorest countries on earth. So really your telling me to be scared of pakistan. STFU
plus in the Osama raid NO Pakistan civilians were killed!
You're not addressing what I said. I was commenting on that one thing, not all this other stuff. I don't feel like talking about that stuff actually lol. I've been wanting to bring the troops home for a very long time now (libertarian) but at the same time, now I feel so much joy from OBL's death.
Like it or not, we got him, and the money is spent. Perhaps if Obama had been in charge to begin with, we wouldn't have wasted so many of our resources in finding him, but who knows.
McCain is such a scumsucking pigdog. For a privileged Admiral's Son whose career consisted of 5 crashed military aircraft, he continued to pose as a military expert (and continues to this day) during the campaign. He has completely destroyed his "Maverick" image by voting 100% with the obstructionist right-wing GOP as well. Pity that he won re-election. Arizonans are stupid.
@Kooshkoff What were the right countries? Iraq was wrong I agree with you there. The people did not invite us and there was no mass revolution underway like in Libya now.... Afghanistan though was worth it. Unless your claiming the Taleban had nothing to do with 9-11?
@Sevenfold120 the Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. Afghanistan was "worth it"? Worth what? WTF is Afghanistan worth? Oh wait. Oil and Gas pipelines.
@siegristrm Yeah of course its political advantageous for us to get involved and disadvantagedness to not. If we had done nothing Gaddafi would have slaughtered his people in Benghazi, executed hundreds, and then sought revenge with the West for their support for the rebels. Before we got involved western leaders had been speaking ill of Gaddafi and some countries even recognized Benghazi as the legitimate govt.
@Sevenfold120 I'm sorry, but they were having a civil war. Let them have it. We should have never gave any support, and thus, no revenge. I mean, how hypocritical of us to let one country fight its protests and then interject on another country. We think we can bully Gaddafi, so we do. But Iran is tough, so we don't? Or even something in South America a year or 2 ago. I mean, really? We don't belong in their sovereign business.
@siegristrm Isolation didnt prevent World War 1 or 2? Perhaps getting involve is the best thing for the world... and Iran and whatever south American event your referring to didnt devolve into a civil war like in Libya where the government literally lost control of the eastern half of the country.
All you dumbass's need to wake the hell up!! There is only one party in this country and its being thrown BY ALL the corporate whores IN DC, and none of you losers are invited!! Just when are you clowns going to realize our government is a rattle snake, one end distracts you while the other bites, and the only thing they are fighting about is who gets to be the end that gets to bite you, but they do work together, while half you idiots are cheering them on at any given time. WTF!
George W. Douche is an incompetent, brainless hillbilly who'll forever be remembered as the worst president in U.S. (if not world) history. Bin Laden and the Taliban were surrounded in late 2001, but instead of simply bombing them, Georgie outsourced the job to the "Northern Alliance," other Moslems who simply took our money and let bin Laden escape into Pakistan. Instead of pursuing them, Georgie forgot all about bin Laden and focused on Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11. Hillbilly idiot.
@Mrcharliebobo You're right, Clinton made a lot of mistakes as well, and could've/should've done much more to get Osama. But at least with Clinton, our economy was in good shape: when he took office, this country had a record deficit after 12 years of Reagan & Bush1, and when he left office, we had a record surplus. President Douche turned that surplus into a record deficit once again, with tax breaks for millionaires and oil companies, unnecessary and unjustified in Iraq based on lies, etc.
@Mrcharliebobo Also, Democrats like Clinton are cheaters and perverts, but at least they don't try to hide that fact. Republicans, on the other hand, are perverts, too, but they try to hide it with all their b.s. about "god," "religion" & "family values." They're constantly getting caught tickling their male pages, or cheating on their wives, or sending semi-nude digital photos of themselves to people other than their wives, or trying to pick up dudes in public men's rooms, etc. Thieves! Liars!
@Mrcharliebobo Oops! I should've written "unnecessary and unjustified WAR WITH (or INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF) Iraq based on lies, etc." Anyway, your point is valid -- we've had a whole bunch of bad presidents since the '70s, Democrats as well as Republicans. Until Pres. Douche came along, I thought Mr. Peanut, Jimmy Carter, was as bad as it could possibly get. Now, however, I think it's fair to say that Pres. Douche has done the most harm to this country, by far. (But once Palin's elected...)
McCain is a tool bag. He knows things like how to pick his vise presidential running mates. Republicans didn't want to get Osama because he was good for the wars and good for Haliburton. If we could go 5 minutes with out a fucking war we might be able to save our economy. Republican leaders suck, their base is brainwashed. God bless the USA.
@baxtar1963 ... SO PERFECT it DEMANDS QUOTING: ... McCain is a tool bag. He knows things like how to pick his vise presidential running mates. Republicans didn't want to get Osama because he was good for the wars and good for Haliburton. If we could go 5 minutes with out a fucking war we might be able to save our economy. Republican leaders suck, their base is brainwashed.
This shows the DEMOCRATS are STRONG on Defense. Bush had 8 years w/ no result. Obama did it in less than 3. The Republicans can no longer say Democrats are weak, the tables have finally turned.
My friends, You don't announce you're going to go into Pakistan to get bin Laden, you sing "Bomb Bomb Bomb...Bomb Bomb Iran. Now that's what an experienced leader does.
@esperanza31288 Please do your homework. Bush gave up on finding Bin Laden. He said that it was not important to kill this guy. There are hundreds of vids to varify this.
@therealtruth31 yup, because what he said in public reflects what was going on behind the scene. the fact is that they've been following the courier since 2007. you may hate on bush all you want, and it a certain degree, obama had a bigger role to play than bush did in osama's death. However, this doesnt change the fact that the very first event that lead to osama's death occurred under bush administration, and that was announced by this administration. you should do YOUR homework.
@esperanza31288 Are you calling Bush a two faced liar? Why would he lie to the American public, the elected him one and a half times, it just doesn't add up?
@TheTomtompiper That's one way to put it - but consider this. If refusing to divulge information to the public in order to achieve the end goal that is beneficial to the public is to deceive the public, then wouldn't that make securing any classified information to deceive the public? I'm not saying that Bush did it right, but what is clear is that he DID care about where Osama was, for if it did not, he wouldn't have ordered to follow this courier.
@TheTomtompiper Why would any politician lie to the American public? To achieve their own objective. Which, hindsight, Bush did a great job of doing. Get everyone riled up over the Al'Qaeda bombing; say that Hussein was part of it, and change Iraq. Bush never cared about going after Osama or Al'Qaeda, clearly.
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Futurecop2012H 8 months ago
McCain keeps twisting Obama's words. I'll bet he's eating crow now that Obama did exactly what he said he would!
kawasakih1 8 months ago
McCain got pwnd.
Visfen 9 months ago
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GamerKT35 9 months ago 8
Anything Obama says and/or does, Republicans and his other opponents will disagree vehemently. It's really that simple. He gave the authorization (just like Bush gave the authorizations to invade and occupy a country that posed not threat to use) to covertly go in, kill bin Laden, take out his body, and leave unscathed, which they did, and they did it brilliantly. Bush wasn't able to do that for the last 8 miserable years. McCain must hate how stupid he looks now.
Dookiestix 9 months ago 3
@Dookiestix You're absolutely correct on almost everything you said..bin Laden would be alive and planning more attacks today if Republicans were still in charge, but John McCain showed tons of class last week when he stepped up, got all the intel, and proved the Republicans wrong for trying to claim credit for bin Laden by lying and saying it was because of torture. I was impressed that he called his own party out for that.
wesleyfpt 9 months ago
I really like Obama. Hes just like "these politicians are like children. Im just gonna do my job, this shit doesnt bother me"
grendelee 9 months ago 3
So, basically both McCain and Clinton distorted Obama's words, claiming he said he wanted to invade Pakistan (when he never said it). Yet, when he eventually took out Osama, he never actually invaded anybody and raided a compound and killed that mother fucker.
LibertyInProgressNOW 9 months ago 5
So what McCain is saying, is that its not ok to let the American people who voted for you or who now see you as the President know what your true objective is in the middle east when he called Obama being naive to broadcast what his objective in the Middle East was. How hypocritical and shows that the majority of Americans voted for the right guy.
RoonGang09 9 months ago
@ FatBoyBread: I am not black and I voted for President Obama. I am appalled by your ignorance! Your comments are a disgrace to the HUMAN race! May God have mercy on your demented soul!
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fatboybread 9 months ago
@fatboybread So, the 69,456,897 who voted for Obama in 2008 were all black? Wow... good one, chief. You have any other gems to offer us?
LibertyInProgressNOW 9 months ago
I drink your milkshake old man. Sit down, you're pants are full & you're mumbling
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ArianeMaldonado901 9 months ago
That was beautiful....Get em All....Go Obama!!!
netking23 9 months ago 2
McCain is a traitor. He sounds like Pakistan's paid agent.
toniezar 9 months ago 4
FUCKING OWNED!!!! LOL BITCHES!!!!
AvatarOfAvatar 9 months ago 2
am i the only one who smells rotten fishy propaganda within and all around Black Jesus on this story ... are we such a lemming minded species as it seems ....
ultravulva 9 months ago
@ultravulva --Bin Laden did not get blown up, he was not hit by a bomb, navy seals came in via helicopter. Obama made the decisions early in his term to do more in Pakistan. Obama gave the order to violate Pakistan's sovrenty to go in. It could have been "black hawk down", or just some rich guys house. It was a HUGE gamble. It worked, and he should get credit for it paying off.
ThisJustin123 9 months ago 37
@ultravulva bigot much?
blm256 9 months ago
"...work with the other country?" What was McCain smoking? If Obama would have done what McCain suggested, Bin Laden would have been tipped off ahead of time and it would have been a disaster. Good for Americans to have good enough sense to elect Obama and not McCain.
diogeron 9 months ago
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@Kooshkoff "There are Sunni's in Iran."
I also know that but my point was the vast majority of Iranians actually oppose Osama even the sunni's. But the Govt as well... now one might argue the enemy of my enemy is my friend, true, but the Ayatollah would much rather have Osama in Afghanistan sowing destruction and chaos then to be caught harboring him.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff But Iran and Afghanistan under the Taleban were not allies either... both had their skirmishes and Iran definitely would not want to be caught harboring Osama after what happened to Saddam. Plus Osama and the Ayatollah - two different religions mate. One is Shia and the other is Sunni.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff The US provided the weapons and the money but the Pakistan Military and the ISI handed the money out to Afghanistan rebels, the Muhajideen. Osama at the time had just arrived and although he built contacts with Pakistan Generals he also set up his own camp and asked for volunteer fighters and he paid for everything or nearly everything with his inheritance from Saudi Arabia... obviously hoping to cash in later. It wasnt until 1988 that Osama split from Maktab al-Khidamat and formed AQ
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Yeah I am sure he is not lying about this mate, it would be easy to discredit. Nobody would lie about this.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff I dont think Osama was the one we were paying directly and if we were then he was just some regional leader and not the overall head of the Russian opposition forces... who by all accounts were much more divided then the Libyan rebels. But the cause of the Taleban rise is that after the war we left and the NA could not hold the ground on their own.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Of course I have... Afghanistan Pakistan border, waziristan, unmonitored and very rugged, easier for Osama to escape through but he also had to hide himself from locals who would have turned him over for the bounty.
However try and go from Tora Bora to Iran is nearly impossible, The Iranian border is much less rugged and more heavily monitored.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Why the hell would Obama make this up?? That makes no sense whatsoever he could be proved a liar by Osama himself and be made a fool of. His popularity will drop like an anvil and he would be doomed for the rest of his administration. People who demand proof of Osamas death are the same conspiracy nuts to doubt EVERYTHING because they were not physically there to witness it.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Osama was never employed by the US. The Northern Alliance was Employed by the CIA. After the war and the US pulled out a civil war, albeit brief, erupted and the Northern Alliance split into the Taleban and the NA who withdrew to the northern part of the country and waited until 2001 when they can retake the country.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff 3 wives I think... but it was safer for him to hide there then try and get to Iran. IF he could have escaped to Iran in 2001 then thats one thing but he only had access to Pakistan. US forces moved into the Eastern part of Afghanistan in the early part of the invasion and Osama would have had a hell of a time trying to get past them and into Iran but if he did then he would have to get past the Iranian military who monitors the border like hawks, they have drug smuggling problems.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff More like 4 decades ago, but who is counting lol.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Yes because Obama gave an order to move in and capture Osama dead or alive and the blame rests with him. The Operation was run from the ground if the seals shot and killed Osama then they had a reasonable excuse to do so. Plus nothing would come out of an Interrogation. Osama is some low grunt who would crack the guy even said repeatedly that he would not be taken alive. He may have been reaching for a knife or AK before he was shot and killed. All the valuable intel was recovered.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Osama had coke in there... what looks like coke and a weighing machine. He was prob collecting opium and coke and selling it for some quick cash... he prob didnt need a porn collection cause he had 3 wives who he could fuck all he want.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Newsmedia are accusing them of harboring Osama, not the US govt. Obama is smart enough to know to bury Osama in the sea within 24 hours in order to avoid angering religious muslims he is smart enough to know not to accuse Pakistan of something without evidence and so far there is no evidence to suggest Pakistan willingly hid Osama Bin Laden. The guy was just smart enough to hide in the one place his enemy wouldnt look.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff They did find Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Where have you been? Remember Tora Bora? Osama escaped the dragnet early on though and got into Pakistan where the trail went cold. We know he was in Afghanistan why are you claiming he wasnt?
Afghanistan has been divided and war torn since 1980... when Russia Invaded. Before that it was another prosperous united semi democratic state in the far east with its usual left/right disagreements. Most of the upperclass fled so we installed warlords.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Osama is more of a figure head, someone who inspires the rest of the followers... plus he had tons and tons of valuable intel that most if not all will prove valuable until the targets get away.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
I thought I was the only one who remembered this!
eswyatt 9 months ago
You don't broadcast and say that you're going to bomb a country without their permission or without consulting them?
"Excuse me, we don't like you and we're going to bomb you, is that alright with you?"
Don't see anyone saying yes
drukenhard 9 months ago
I love Obama!
ChristinaSinger1983 9 months ago
Not looking for a fight, just saying that if you think that video's of Bin Laden's "confession" to 9/11 (among many others) are accurately translated by Fox, CNN, NBC, etc. Then not only are you naive, you're just plain wrong. I'm NOT saying Bin Laden isn't responsible... Just research it for yourself, don't be a drone to corporate media like everyone else...
DBLeiii 9 months ago
Not looking for a fight, just saying that if you think that video's of Bin Laden's "confession" to 9/11 (among many others) are accurately translated by Fox, CNN, NBC, etc. Then not only are you naive, you're just plain wrong. I'm NOT saying Bin Laden isn't responsible... Just research it for yourself, don't be a drone to corporate media like everyone else....
DBLeiii 9 months ago
@DBLeiii
To be perfectly clear Osama Bin Laden´s case against 9/11 could have been thrown out of court,
for lack of evidence, but what would not be thrown out of court
is the fact that Osama Bin Laden was personally involved in 90´s attacks against US embassies the strongest evidence was the one in Nairobi.
izaccy 9 months ago
@izaccy
So, what you're saying is the US legal system might not be good enough to convict Bin Laden for something that he did, so just shoot the bastard, right?
Did you know that when Nazi Political leaders were captured during WWII executing them without a trial wasn't even on the table? President Truman said that it would be a "poison chalice" to future generations. Apparently his wisdom has not been heeded.
DBLeiii 9 months ago
@DBLeiii Bin Laden was not a criminal. He was the leader of a quasi-military organization that declared war on a foreign and sovereign nation, and thus was a target for military action. Surely he could have strolled down to the Paki military academy and turned himself in anytime during the past five years. Since you brought up WWII, if anything the mission against Bin Laden has a parallel to the mission to assassinate Adm. Isoroku Yamamoto, in which the US acted on intelligence.
drgonzo767 9 months ago
McCain kept saying that he k new how to get Bin Laden and he would get Bin Laden - But only if he was elected president. Stupid asshole.
FakeOutrage 9 months ago
John McCane is SUCH a fucking jerk and pompous ass-hole --he couldn't generate enough intertest to get a double-digit IQ racist population to vote for his sorry ass.
golgipogo 9 months ago
Republicans are so stupid. They allowed 911 to happen under their watch - and Democrats have to clean up the mess and kill Bin Ladin.
jjgreek1 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff WOW Internet fight, calm down there guys don't want you to get hurt
patrikthegreat 9 months ago
Some Politicians get it right even if they don't get credit for it.
suprabuddha 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Where the info came from means nothing. Obama had the balls to go into Pakistan, Bush didnt. And your Mccain was terrified.
MrAlecaf 9 months ago 35
@MrAlecaf exactly
loon0493 9 months ago
@MrAlecaf It's just because he doesn't think about what he is about to do. Also he still has not got any troops out and he has destroy the economy raise the deficit, raise gas prices. Each and everyone of these things is way more important then killing Osama.
gigaboy47 6 months ago
@gigaboy47 The economy was done by 2008. Only adding tens of thousands of jobs a month is bad, but its better than losing 600,000 in one month, like we were doing at the end of 2008. Gas was more expensive in the summer of 08 as well. But then it was because of the price of oil. A barrel of oil is 60 dollars cheaper than it was in the summer of 08, but the gas prices are the same. The oil companies are now getting even MORE rich off the suffering of middle and lower class American...
RavenMichaels 5 months ago
@Kooshkoff There is overwhelming evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11. Not the least of which was a video of him taking credit for it. But like I said, there's no point arguing with crazy. You're immune to reality. So I'm going to take my own advice and leave you to wallow in your own insanity. Enjoy.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff you say other people believe things without evidence then post garbage like this. And then you wonder why people think you're insane.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Unlike you, I have a background in science. These scam artists are claiming to produce hydrogen through electrolysis of water. Their first major problem is electrolysis results in a net energy loss when used in this way. Putting other problems aside for the moment, the batteries would quickly drain and you would have no more electricity to produce fuel. The second major problem is electrolysis is a relatively slow process. You can't produce fuel quickly enough.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff sorry to break it to you, but this is a hoax. it's tied to investment scams. send them your money and let me know how soon your car is running on water.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff No one needs to prove your intelligence, or more to the point, the lack thereof. You've done a convincing job of that all on your own.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff The fact is Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. He even confessed to it on tape. The problem is the mentally insane will dismiss any and all evidence out of hand and call it fake. You appear to belong to this group. So like I said, there's no point arguing with crazy people. Reality has no effect on you.
As for going straight for bin Laden, we did. He was in Afghanistan. He hid in Pakistan after we invaded. But in the mind of the deranged, I'm guessing that never happened too.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
Hold down 1 to watch Obama beat box.
xHerufaia 9 months ago
very well put together, I appreciate it.
aaasamaaa 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
I'm trying to prove people AREN'T stupid simply for having a different viewpoint than you. You said I was arguing to prove intelligence. The opposite to me isn't arguing to prove stupidity, but rather arguing to not prove intelligence one way or another.
I don't think you're stupid for having doubts, I just think you shouldn't think less of others for not sharing the same doubts.
I'm done with this, have the last word.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Did you not even watch your own video? Look at all the attacks on everyone in those comments, talking about how stupid all the Americans are for believing what they are told, and not automatically disbelieving it.
AGAIN, I come back to the proof of God argument. When you lambasting anyone for believing or not believing in a creator, you may as well be attacking your own intelligence.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
I wasn't arguing to prove intelligence. In fact, I was arguing to prove the opposite. If you never believe what's said, then you aren't any more intelligent than someone who ALWAYS believes what's said.
My own intelligence was never a topic here, but what offended me was how you (maybe inadvertently) questioned it.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
I'm exposing a double standard as well. Nothing I said here would indicate I completely dismiss the notion that what is being told to us isn't entirely factual, but you still tell me I need a "wake up call" and you still attempted to point to whatever evidence was given as evidence of the contrary, which is what leads me back to the proof of God argument.
If all you intend is for people to not think so one-sided, then I concede and I say bye, but you you do't come across this way.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
I only attack people's intelligence when I can tell they are attacking mine, but think they are smarter than me to the point where I won't pick up on it.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
But you ARE trying to convert me. You try to convert those around you by attacking their intelligence, all for motivations stemming from the same amount of evidence you are provided.
If I said God existed, and you said "No he doesn't, you moron" you are trying to convert me into believing he doesn't exist by making me feel my side is the side morons take, all the meanwhile you have as much evidence as I do.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Deep down inside, you do, that's why you cling to this alternate reality/explanation of things. A reality where you are better than the masses because only you have the special information that nobody else has, which in turn makes you special, and them not.
This is the psychology behind your mentality about things. I don't know why you do it entirely, but I do know people like you have always existed, and you are part of a proper unique balancing in mass human perception.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
The fact that you don't see this is what baffles me. Back on to the topic of God: When someone tells me to prove God doesn't exist, I ask them to prove he DOES exist.
Your attacks may as well be directed at yourself as well.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
You show me the proof. And if it's good proof. I will DECIDE it's a lie.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Look, it's much more logical to take what they say as at least partial truth, then DECIDE it's a lie later when reasonable doubt exists.
You're no better than all these other conspiracy nuts I meet. You simply think you're better than everyone else because you don't believe what they believe, all while simultaneously believing in something opposite with equal or less evidence.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
I can understand that, but can you understand that you don't come off as "considering" it to be a lie, but rather DECIDING it to be a lie?
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
No, it's completely relevant, because whether I believe it or you don't believe it, the fact is, neither of us speak Arabic, so if you're going to attack me for this, I can easily attack you for the opposite.
Don't you see, dumbass?
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Oh, but YOU speak Arabic?
From this conversation, there's NOTHING to indicate that I never have doubts about the information that comes down the pipes, but because of my explanation as to why OBL is credited for 9/11, clearly I'm just the most gullible person in the world.
Queue the guy who doesn't believe a word said, no matter what? I mean seriously, it's one thing to never question what's said, but it's just as idiotic to instead cling to an alternate reality no matter what.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
What wakeup call? I meet people online all the time who think they're better than everyone else simply because they ALWAYS look at their own explanation of things.
As far as trusting government intelligence at it's word, this is clearly you just trying to start an argument and bait me into conspiracy theorist bs. I said intelligence and OBL's own admission is what linked him to 9/11, now you think you've got some amazing point? You're just a jerk! Get over yourself, fool.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Why would I subject myself to any religion when such severe amounts of fallacy is so blatant?
I can only hope the wicked are punished, and the good are rewarded, but there's no proof of that, and never has been.
The thing about something like Christianity is that people miss the intention, and end up ruining their lives devoting themselves to insanity, without even realizing it. Look at the creationist threat to Science classes across the nation. Look at religion in politics.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Neither believe or disbelieve in God. A god belonging to a specific religion, I don't believe in. So with Christianity, I don't believe in God. But the idea of a creator isn't something I'll confidently deny because I'm unable to.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff America is wrong on many things, going to war when they shouldn't, ending wars they would win because of political concerns, mistreating some people, while erroneously holding up others as paragons of virtue. America is flawed. As are all other countires, since flawed human beings run them the same way flawed humans run the US. I simply responded to the assertion Afghanistan has never been conquered before, since it is an often mistated lie I wanted to clarify. all the best
LeGioNoFZioN 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Intelligence links him to 9/11, as well as his own admission to it.
Again, you keep turning this into a different discussion than I intended. We went to Afghanistan and that's why he fled to Pakistan. If we started in Pakistan, we would have not found him lol.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@LoryLandskipper There's no point arguing with crazy people. You can't win.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff You think America was wrong to invade Afghanistan after 9/11? You're clearly ill-informed, or destined for a room with padded walls.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff lol... I actually am curious. Have you ever been diagnosed and/or treated for any mental disorders? I don't ask due to any inability on my part to debate. But because I suspect that's the source of your inability to think rationally.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff I think I made that distinction already n'est ce que pas ? the history of Afghansitan is more than a few hundred years old, its older than America
LeGioNoFZioN 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff I think the first poster was correct about you. But I'll go one step further in stating that you're most likely not mentally stable. Have you ever been prescribed medication for a metal disorder? I'm sensing a bit of obsessive compulsive disorder, possibly bordering on paranoid schizophrenia.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff We don't have the technology to be anything other than an oil-based economy. Until we do, a military presence in the Middle East is a necessary evil. Try living one day without oil-based products. You can start by turning off your computer.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff You really must be 5. In that case, you should read a history book. Before you were born, there was a separate war in the Middle East. Saddam Huissein invaded Kuwait and threatened to keep going into Saudi Arabia. The United Nations immediately condemned his invasion and authorized military force to drive him out of Kuwait. The first Gulf War was completely justified. Bin Laden created al quaida in response to this war. The second Gulf War was a mistake, but had nothing to do with it
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
McCain is an ass clown. Always has been. Always will be.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff How old are you? 5? The simple reality is we are an oil-based economy. If we're not in the Middle East, we're not getting oil. And civilization as we know it would collapse.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff It looks to me like he's saying bin Laden created al quaida in response to America defending our allies and oil interests in the Middle East. It's a bit more complicated than your simplistic world view. America's involvement in the Middle East was not only justified, it was necessary, as reflected by the UN resolution that called for military action.
vampirebunnyrat 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Darius of Persian empire also conquered them. So you were wrong when you said "no on ever conquered Afghanistan", history is not 100-200 years old, it goes back thousands of years. People argue about American imperialism all the time. Its not an empire in the traditional sense, but it is in a new post modern cultural imperialist kind of way. the american's won't conquer Afghanistan, but that is a will issue not a capability one.
LeGioNoFZioN 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Emotion has more dynamic than just happy or sad. You can feel happy that OBL is dead, while simultaneously feeling angry that so many resources were blatantly wasted in pursuing him.
You can feel joy in knowing OBL won't recruit anyone else for his evil agenda, and sad for the good and decent American lives lost on both 9/11 or in these wars.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff You're doing very little to convince me you're not sitting in a pile of your own shit, picking the peanuts out of it and eating them.
Al quaida was formed in response to our involvement in the first Gulf War. You might remember when someone named Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait and was poised to invade Saudi Arabia. If that had happened he would have controlled half the world's oil reserves. We, along with the rest of the world, had no choice but to act.
I'm done talking to retards.
unilingual 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
of course what you said is correct. but you are avoiding the point. Mccain was criticizing Obama for threatening a soveriegn nation...just after he had been threatening a soveriegn nation. its called hypocrisy.
furthermore, its pretty clear now that Pakistan isnt the ally that Mccain thought they were...
DcEatsItsYoung 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Yes. If the robber murdered a bunch of innocent people, and he in turn is killed, I am happy. If he gets away, I am saddened and angry.
In either case, I would still mourn the innocent lives taken.
So yes, I feel joy over OBL being shot and killed. He didn't deserve to live after what he did.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff You're not even forming a coherent argument. You went from claiming getting bin Laden would create more terrorists and Pakistan would quit cooperating with us (if they were ever cooperating at all) to spewing tangents that in no way support your original argument.
So like I said, you have the mental abilities of a complete retard. And as I suspected, there's no point arguing with you, as you're incapable of reasoned thought.
unilingual 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Maybe because Obama knew Pakistan for what it is. An enemy of the United States that's only pretending to bow to pressure. They were clearly harboring bin Laden. Obama had the courage to tell them that if they were unwilling to take him out, we would.
McCain on the other hand said repeatedly that he would have worked with Pakistan on any operation. If MacCain had won, bin Laden would still be free.
unilingual 9 months ago
No credit for Obama, all credit goes to the troops if its true. i would like to see the photos and dna results.
JBBlitz 9 months ago
@JBBlitz I would like to see your certificate of live birth. Clearly you were aborted.
unilingual 9 months ago
@JBBlitz
You sound like a fool. No matter how much you try and deny it, President Obama OWNS this!
3chicspolitico 9 months ago
@3chicspolitico Obama is a bitch, he would get shot up before he made it to the door. Obama didn't do shit except sat there and watch on tv, no credit for him, all goes to the honorable Navy Seals.
JBBlitz 9 months ago
@JBBlitz
My IQ just fell reading your ignorant drivel. You're uneducated ignoramus. But it's expected coming from hillbilly trash.
3chicspolitico 9 months ago
@3chicspolitico your IQ fell because your watching goverment mainstream propaganda, because your to stupid to do your own research
JBBlitz 9 months ago
@JBBlitz I hope you appreciate the irony of saying to someone else "your to stupid."
gregkauf1987 9 months ago 2
@Kooshkoff Pakistan receives about 10% of its budget in the form of aid from the US and our allies. They need us to prop them up more than we need them.
The general population in Pakistan is not outraged that we took him out. They are embarrassed that he was living in a major city for 6 years. That's not exactly going to foster terrorism.
Muslim support for bin Laden had dropped off the map. You don't see protests in the streets, if anything there is a sense of relief.
unilingual 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Alexander the great did conquer Afghanistan, he is the only conqueror to have accomplished this feat
LeGioNoFZioN 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Yea, why would anyone say that?
Its much better to sing a song about bombing a sovereign nation...."bomb, bomb, bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran."
DcEatsItsYoung 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff Really!? reeeaaallllyyy? "we're screwed." it took us two weeks to invade and take over Iraq, which by the way was unnecessary. Even if Pakistan nationally retaliated how would they. it is one of the poorest countries on earth. So really your telling me to be scared of pakistan. STFU
plus in the Osama raid NO Pakistan civilians were killed!
princejustin9 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff you sir are retarded. and there's no point arguing with a mental retard.
unilingual 9 months ago
McCain on Larry King saying he wouldn't go into Pakistan...
youtube.com/watch?v=DCMkxTrrFMI
unilingual 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
You're not addressing what I said. I was commenting on that one thing, not all this other stuff. I don't feel like talking about that stuff actually lol. I've been wanting to bring the troops home for a very long time now (libertarian) but at the same time, now I feel so much joy from OBL's death.
Like it or not, we got him, and the money is spent. Perhaps if Obama had been in charge to begin with, we wouldn't have wasted so many of our resources in finding him, but who knows.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff
Well, it's debatable whether our presence there is what drove him into Pakistan, actually.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
McCain is such a scumsucking pigdog. For a privileged Admiral's Son whose career consisted of 5 crashed military aircraft, he continued to pose as a military expert (and continues to this day) during the campaign. He has completely destroyed his "Maverick" image by voting 100% with the obstructionist right-wing GOP as well. Pity that he won re-election. Arizonans are stupid.
welcome2myhell 9 months ago
Always fun to see McCain look silly.
doctender77 9 months ago 4
@Kooshkoff What were the right countries? Iraq was wrong I agree with you there. The people did not invite us and there was no mass revolution underway like in Libya now.... Afghanistan though was worth it. Unless your claiming the Taleban had nothing to do with 9-11?
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Sevenfold120 the Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. Afghanistan was "worth it"? Worth what? WTF is Afghanistan worth? Oh wait. Oil and Gas pipelines.
welcome2myhell 9 months ago
@welcome2myhell Taleban were sheltering Osama who orchestrated 9-11, refusing to hand him over sorta made the Taleban accomplices...
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Sevenfold120 Are you really saying that we should be in Libya now?
siegristrm 9 months ago
@siegristrm Yeah of course its political advantageous for us to get involved and disadvantagedness to not. If we had done nothing Gaddafi would have slaughtered his people in Benghazi, executed hundreds, and then sought revenge with the West for their support for the rebels. Before we got involved western leaders had been speaking ill of Gaddafi and some countries even recognized Benghazi as the legitimate govt.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Sevenfold120 I'm sorry, but they were having a civil war. Let them have it. We should have never gave any support, and thus, no revenge. I mean, how hypocritical of us to let one country fight its protests and then interject on another country. We think we can bully Gaddafi, so we do. But Iran is tough, so we don't? Or even something in South America a year or 2 ago. I mean, really? We don't belong in their sovereign business.
siegristrm 9 months ago
@siegristrm Isolation didnt prevent World War 1 or 2? Perhaps getting involve is the best thing for the world... and Iran and whatever south American event your referring to didnt devolve into a civil war like in Libya where the government literally lost control of the eastern half of the country.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
@Kooshkoff On Libya, yeah your right but imo it was necessary.
Sevenfold120 9 months ago
Looks like the 3 people that disliked this video (Bush, McCain and Palin) are friends with Bin Laden and would not have made the decision to go in.
therealtruth31 9 months ago
mccain is a dooche. hillary let me down.
Kyanlikethepepper 9 months ago
McCain was and is a fucking moron.
fl00ders 9 months ago
United we stand, divided we fall
zidmt 9 months ago
The reason Hillary lost is because she ran like a Republican.
SpitfireOFatj 9 months ago
@SpitfireOFatj and squeels like a pig
viridismonasteriense 9 months ago
All you dumbass's need to wake the hell up!! There is only one party in this country and its being thrown BY ALL the corporate whores IN DC, and none of you losers are invited!! Just when are you clowns going to realize our government is a rattle snake, one end distracts you while the other bites, and the only thing they are fighting about is who gets to be the end that gets to bite you, but they do work together, while half you idiots are cheering them on at any given time. WTF!
Mrcharliebobo 9 months ago
Owned!
enemy2k10 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
A man of his word.
brooklynborn23 9 months ago
George W. Douche is an incompetent, brainless hillbilly who'll forever be remembered as the worst president in U.S. (if not world) history. Bin Laden and the Taliban were surrounded in late 2001, but instead of simply bombing them, Georgie outsourced the job to the "Northern Alliance," other Moslems who simply took our money and let bin Laden escape into Pakistan. Instead of pursuing them, Georgie forgot all about bin Laden and focused on Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11. Hillbilly idiot.
Incestoid 9 months ago 3
@Incestoid - Hey, you can't let your pal Clinton off the hook either Jr!!!
Mrcharliebobo 9 months ago
@Mrcharliebobo You're right, Clinton made a lot of mistakes as well, and could've/should've done much more to get Osama. But at least with Clinton, our economy was in good shape: when he took office, this country had a record deficit after 12 years of Reagan & Bush1, and when he left office, we had a record surplus. President Douche turned that surplus into a record deficit once again, with tax breaks for millionaires and oil companies, unnecessary and unjustified in Iraq based on lies, etc.
TheGreatGorkowski 9 months ago
@Mrcharliebobo Also, Democrats like Clinton are cheaters and perverts, but at least they don't try to hide that fact. Republicans, on the other hand, are perverts, too, but they try to hide it with all their b.s. about "god," "religion" & "family values." They're constantly getting caught tickling their male pages, or cheating on their wives, or sending semi-nude digital photos of themselves to people other than their wives, or trying to pick up dudes in public men's rooms, etc. Thieves! Liars!
TheGreatGorkowski 9 months ago
@Mrcharliebobo Oops! I should've written "unnecessary and unjustified WAR WITH (or INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF) Iraq based on lies, etc." Anyway, your point is valid -- we've had a whole bunch of bad presidents since the '70s, Democrats as well as Republicans. Until Pres. Douche came along, I thought Mr. Peanut, Jimmy Carter, was as bad as it could possibly get. Now, however, I think it's fair to say that Pres. Douche has done the most harm to this country, by far. (But once Palin's elected...)
TheGreatGorkowski 9 months ago
God. Condescending idiots spin jobz. No wonder they are losers.
Bassdaddy404 9 months ago
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digy1st 9 months ago
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digy1st 9 months ago
why?
marniespeaks 9 months ago
Damn they eatin their own shit--- 1:00 for "bitch watch this" face----and wasn't Mccain the one who remixed that beach boyz song about Iran?
Chillyman010 9 months ago 2
This proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that America made the right choice in 2008.
prezcan 9 months ago 7
McCain is a tool bag. He knows things like how to pick his vise presidential running mates. Republicans didn't want to get Osama because he was good for the wars and good for Haliburton. If we could go 5 minutes with out a fucking war we might be able to save our economy. Republican leaders suck, their base is brainwashed. God bless the USA.
baxtar1963 9 months ago
@baxtar1963 ... SO PERFECT it DEMANDS QUOTING: ... McCain is a tool bag. He knows things like how to pick his vise presidential running mates. Republicans didn't want to get Osama because he was good for the wars and good for Haliburton. If we could go 5 minutes with out a fucking war we might be able to save our economy. Republican leaders suck, their base is brainwashed.
quicksite 9 months ago 2
This shows the DEMOCRATS are STRONG on Defense. Bush had 8 years w/ no result. Obama did it in less than 3. The Republicans can no longer say Democrats are weak, the tables have finally turned.
EdwardP88 9 months ago 3
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RON PAUL 2012 END THE FED
777Herbs 9 months ago
Obama 2012
smokenchill 9 months ago 10
Grampa wandered off from the home again.
Richardgwm 9 months ago 6
Republicans produce excuses.
Democrats produce results.
Richardgwm 9 months ago 7
My friends, You don't announce you're going to go into Pakistan to get bin Laden, you sing "Bomb Bomb Bomb...Bomb Bomb Iran. Now that's what an experienced leader does.
Painkill3r4 9 months ago 43
@Painkill3r4 I know, right!
Junkay2 9 months ago
Interesting...
eksyte 9 months ago
Obama was planning to get Osama from even before he was elected. He makes George Bush and the Republicans look like the rubes that they are.
crumbtrey 9 months ago 47
@crumbtrey - How do you know he's dead???
Mrcharliebobo 9 months ago
@crumbtrey lol no... they've been following this courier since 2007, when bush was in office...
esperanza31288 9 months ago
@esperanza31288 Please do your homework. Bush gave up on finding Bin Laden. He said that it was not important to kill this guy. There are hundreds of vids to varify this.
therealtruth31 9 months ago
@therealtruth31 yup, because what he said in public reflects what was going on behind the scene. the fact is that they've been following the courier since 2007. you may hate on bush all you want, and it a certain degree, obama had a bigger role to play than bush did in osama's death. However, this doesnt change the fact that the very first event that lead to osama's death occurred under bush administration, and that was announced by this administration. you should do YOUR homework.
esperanza31288 9 months ago
@esperanza31288 Are you calling Bush a two faced liar? Why would he lie to the American public, the elected him one and a half times, it just doesn't add up?
TheTomtompiper 9 months ago
@TheTomtompiper That's one way to put it - but consider this. If refusing to divulge information to the public in order to achieve the end goal that is beneficial to the public is to deceive the public, then wouldn't that make securing any classified information to deceive the public? I'm not saying that Bush did it right, but what is clear is that he DID care about where Osama was, for if it did not, he wouldn't have ordered to follow this courier.
esperanza31288 9 months ago
@TheTomtompiper Why would any politician lie to the American public? To achieve their own objective. Which, hindsight, Bush did a great job of doing. Get everyone riled up over the Al'Qaeda bombing; say that Hussein was part of it, and change Iraq. Bush never cared about going after Osama or Al'Qaeda, clearly.
siegristrm 9 months ago
@esperanza31288 Funny considering that Bush recalled the team looking for Osama in 2005. He really wanted to git him didn't he?
siegristrm 9 months ago