@HHOinfo No, but don't give me just references, give me some evidence, like I do here. A picture would be nice. I show prop planes making contrails. But not 100 miles and more long. I think a great man like sky daddy AlGore should drop in on this subject. He has answers to all environmental issues. He even found an ozone hole over Kennybunkport.
@IExposeMormonism Contrails are made of ice crystals from water in the exhaust and the surrounding air. They vanish because the ice turns back into water vapor. If will vanish faster if the air is dry and/or relatively warm. They can stay for a long time though.
How does atmospheric variability play into contrails? It's a question I ponder often. What are the rates of incoming cosmic dust (which can act as cloud / contrail nuclei) and how much does that vary from month to month, year to year? Additionally how much does volcano soot and soot from coal burning play apart? Vapor trails are causing weather modification. If it inadvertent? Keep looking up. Keep an eye on spaceweatherdotcom as being inside a solar stream = great cloud effects.
@bryansail33 I have recent posts showing contrails in immediate proximity to these "chemtrails". Did you see my "Amazing cloud patterns" ? That followed some interesting spraying the day prior.
These pics appear to be the earliest examples of what ever "chemtrails" are. I can't find anything like this prior to 1944. Jets were just being used in 1944. And mostly German. This pic is in England. Where did all these "jets"come from and go to? Did they drop bombs? I have found contrails back to 1939 but they are nothing like this pic. By looking in old Nat' Geo' and such photographs will show when these trails started. It had to be around 1944. I really doubt Piston engines will do this
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Ahh, the history....The Mormons alter history w/o so much as a footnote. It is curious the above photo is used in the additional years of the International Cloud Atlas. I have a video to make on this subject. I bought some 12 Cloud books from 1920-1943. I have found no trails like these but have found contrails in dog fights. So contrails seem to start around 1938 and the above is the earliest example. the movie "Koyaanisqatsi". 1980, has examples of these trails.
Have you seen "CHEMA KILL" on utube yet? With the amount of dis and misinformation being put out, for the affect on the perception of validity, I have no idea what to think about your video. I will look into it further, thanks.
bigc, I will check it out. Here is whats nice about my videos: They are based on the contents of agreed upon classifications in books. And Chemtrails, when ever they occurred can be found in national geographic and other mags. My movie maker isnt working but I have a movie showing that trails like those shown here are classified as contrails somewhere around 1943. I found art to c. 1942 for what we would agree are contrails. But this smeared sky in 1944 really surprised me and still does
Totally crazy! I don't remember seeing any chemtrails when I was a kid. I remember following the contrails to see the plane. Now, there are mostly chemtrails, that spread into clouds, and the plane is gone a long time ago. I watch all the time now, and just yesterday and they were overlapping at almost the same time. I am in N MN.
Chema Kill has the media, legislation, and archival government docs in it. It's the best one I have seen yet.
bigc, as u can c, these existed in this form in 1944. But I am sure this did not persist over time. Out here we have 1/4 =/-as many as last year..It is very noticeable in the absence. Type in "Koyaanisqatsi". A movie. It shows these trails in c. 1980. Try my "Gorgeous cloud patterns" video from april. very odd. I don't know why they do it, why so many last year and so few now but its not the sky, its "them".
You will find contrails like we commonly see. By all means, go find one like these. Just one. Your dismissive tone does nothing to increase your "expertise". PROOF. post something. I have the contrails of Memphis Belle.
Whats unusual is the altitude and number of them. Jets were very few in number and prop planes dont leave a trail like this. So, If jets did these trails it should be easy for someone as knowledgable as yourself to locate the battle involved. This had to be a major battle with German Jets. So it is a significant event. Why dont you research this and see what you can find, you seem very smart.
Maybe it's because contrails and clouds are different things. I'm pretty sure you're not gonna find tire tracks as a classification in a book on geological phenomena, but that's not because they're secretly land chemtrails.
Thats good, I like that! But the contrail as a class does exist but exactly when is uncertain. It is after 1939. I have contrails in prop planes in 1941. Smoke trails from planes over ocean in 1922. I looked at this photo for 1/2 hr and said "If I was military and saw this I would send these planes out first and then fly the good stuff over the top". But of course I am just paranoid and not military......
"Condensation Trails" seem to exist as a word around 1930 something. As a classification, after 1939. Having a prop plane leave a contrail 200 miles long that hangs around all day seems excessive.
The pictures in the 1956-87 atlas' are the same photo. they are ID'd as the same in the books. take at look at my "gorgeous clouds" video. 3 versions, long one is most interesting. I have more books on clouds and still no contrails as a classification thru 1943. but contrails did exist in c. 1940. Its in the plane art I have found
This is most interesting, yet it doesn't really say too much. It's entirely possible for contrails to form from prop aircraft and did from B-17s over Germany. Also, there is a question of time and scale. How old are these trails and how big are they? Are the minutes old or hours old? Are they meters across the diameter or are they kilometers across. These factors matter in assigning the status of persistence in a contrail.
These are miles long, exactly how many I am not sure but more than 10. The text I read indicates the wide one is over 1/2 hour. I posted some International Cloud Classification books and prior to 1938 no contrail class exists. contrails do exist in 1940, I post that as well, in the form of dog fights painted in 1940.
. I do know that this artificial cloud cover has got to have some effect on the weather. just like the cover of a green house. Why should the aviation Industry get to create artificial cloud banks that cover the sky as far as the eye can see?
I am not Military, but if I saw this occur I would think "Hey, fly some guys low and then we can fly a real surprise Over it!". But that's mean spirited. As to why they can do this, because they can..... I would like to know Exactly what this is and what is occurring today. The things like the photo seen here so not seem the results of exhaust gas....
I don't know what the streamers are made of but I would like my blue skis back. I see "chem trails" and "contrails" at the same time from planes that appear in the same air space. I don't care if they are intentional or unintentional but the fact is they steal my blue skis and I DON'T like it. even if they are nothing but water vapor it pisses me off that I have my beautiful blue skis stolen from me on a regular basis
I own a commercial grounds maintenance co and a tree service. I know nothing about aviation, but I work outside everyday. In the morning I go to work in blue skis and by three o'clock the trails have turned the entire sky white
Truth doesn't care about you or you blocking him. He KNOWS you're all a bunch of cavemen with no knowledge of aviation. I agree with him. I fly with him every week.
Good, you can take a flying fk at the moon with your little friend.,. You and your buddies NEVER post anything. all you do is yap. Yip and Yap. You bark little dog, got any bite at all? post something. bye.
Yoetah, Yes, but i had to block them. They just kept saying they had evidence put produce nothing. then they insult me for not producing and posting their claims. Neither will ever post a video because they are shills. If they post a video they run the risk of having their computer "IP address's" exposed. All they had to do was carry on a debate. These shills are common on 911/WTC sites. They all use the same MO. So, they are gone. But if they Post ANYTHING, I would love to know.
I've been dealing with these little boys for years
They end up going away like whipped puppies with their tail between their legs..
They are cowards of the worst kind!
I don't bother with them any longer.
Their main purpose is TO engage you-to zap your energy-to wear you down.
It's right to block them, unless they make a threatening comment, then i leave it...of course, we've witnessed YOUTUBE protecting those who threaten us.
No they don't, they continue to hit you with facts & requests for non-existent evidence. They show you delusional brain-donors up for what you are, uneducated fuckwits who have painfully dull lives & speak with utter ignorance of the aviation industry & he science of contrails. If only you bothered your lazy arses to read up on the subject as opposed to listening to moronic cretins like this fool who expects to be spoon-fed. You're all a bunch of lying, clueless, hick bastards.
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fkypaper, good morning...glad you're here trying to discredit me...it's a great sign...i have no problem with you my friend...you're just doing your job!
*sigh* please, when you obtain something more than a youtube education, come back & we can perhaps have a serious conversation instead of you simply giving us your uneducated & delusional opinion. I don't need to discredit you, you do that yourself with your level of stupidity. The fact is there is NO evidence for this crap & EVERYTHING you people mention is easily explained with contrails. Tell me, why does this stuff they're spraying build up anywhere ie, buildings, airplane wings etc.?
From what i can see you basically block those who disagree with you. After reading through the comments i've managed to look up what clixster & were talking about in 30 seconds. What is your argument, you're wrong you just won't admit it. Why won't you look up the details you've been given when it's so simple? As somebody said, you want this to be real.
RepitllianFreemason. You are just like the other 3 shills whom clog this page and others with your insults. You say something exists yet you refuse to post evidence of it. You tell others to do it for you. Why dont you go over to NuffRespect page and post there and see how long you last. As long as you last here: goodbye. Stop asking me to prove your point. Collect your evidence, post it and people will see it. 1944 is the earliest known Contrail There was no contrail class prior to 1939. facts
Are you unable to conduct a simple google search? A 30 second search will confirm everything said. Nobody's asking you to post anything & i'm not asking you to look anything up FOR me, i'm simply telling you that the evidence is available your finger tips without having to leave your chair.
flypaper, I have bought some 20 books and I am posting the contents. Wikipedia reality is unhealthy. You need original documents. I am reading up. You are insulting. If you want to post some of your finding, please do so. just saying it or typing it isn't evidence. So, put up or shut up.
You've bought 20 books yet you refuse to conduct a 30 second google search? Seems kinda strange to me. Can i just say that the details you have been provided with are FAR more credible than any book you speak of, theyre actual aviation reports! It's straight from the horses mouth, it doesn't get any more credible lol.
Once again, URL's are not allowed to be posted as you're fully aware of. 30 second google search, what's the problem? lol, you just don't want to be wrong do you.
flypaper, you can stick around for a bit. 4 of you shilloids, probably all the same shill, keep saying the same thing. Why dont you post some evidence? Yesterday I posted another video showing contrails in 1940. But they aren't 200 miles longs and miles wide. I post evidence. I show no "contrail" class existed in the International Cloud Classification books prior to 1939. I have more 1940's books coming. You type in shit. If your right, and your not, I will prove it.Also posted Propane Contrail
I'm not going to repeat myself, i've said what i wanted to be say & anybody of fair mind who reads through the comments i think see who is the one in denial here. In fact i'd delete those comments quick because theyll more than likely do that said google search & see for themselves what a deluded individual you really are. Your evidence is outstandingly pathetic & completely ignorant of the facts, worse still it's wilful ignorance. Block away big man, either way you lose BIGtime.
Oh, no,no, Mcfly, you are blocked and all your comments stay. and all the comments by other douche bags like you stay. But you go. Now, off with you McFly, back to mommy. bye Mcfly,
And why do you even bother doing all this when 1000's are sick and cities have won lawsuits like Esplanola in Canada? What is your point of making all this effort? People just want answers and you just want to argue.
What about the head of epidemiology Rosalie Bartell? Dr. Michael Castle? Dr. Staninger? Dr. Randy Wymore? Dr. Rahim Karjoo? These have all the evidence you need. They have found nanotech and boilogical contents that are not even in FBI forensic files! Theyve done lab tests along with dozens of electron microscope tests. Google those doctors and scientists and read their peer-reviewed research done in the last 8 years. Not in 1944 or 1938!
Yoteh< I have had the same problem here. post 3-5 times. Reptilian and the other 3 shills are gone from here. I wont do their home work. THey say they have something and refuse to post it, then blame you for not posting it. shill behavior
It's an age old tactic. I've better things to do with my PRECIOUS energy.
The day will come soon, and hopefully not at the expense of too much more funding [wasting tax payer money] to fund a fraudulent GLOBAL WARMING project & a military operation which require the ionosphere to be filled with Al and Ba. Weatherman explains a cluttered radar as being a military op:
I have seen the video, the Germans are good at it. Mercedes has their own plane they fly over their huge property testing grounds and they spray it to change the weather near them. This was described in detail on a Speed TV show. Saw it on youtube also. Its obvious this can be done. And is being done. The shilloids claim all of this is normal and its not. I doubt the 1944 photo is normal. I have some more books coming. pre 1944. Look in old Nat' Geo' and such for pics. the truth is out there
In response to your criticism of my "youtube education:" any edu is good education.
Did you know a recent survey revealed that 90% of college grads knew of Beavis and Butthead while only 10% knew John Q. Adams?
Education is a pathetic state of affairs since the Socialists retained control of the U.S. State Dept. and education system {see Norman Dodd-Reece Comm Investigation of 1954}
Yes & I just blocked him from commenting on my home page. I will laugh at his spew at the sites where he dare spew. But he needs new material. The same old name-calling is getting old. He needs a retrofit and an upgrade on the moral scene.
chemtrailcentralditcom has some nice government disclosures @ chemtrails. Of the 7,270,000 references on google, this is on the 1st page. b4 commenting further @ the "innocence" of the airplane business, checkout some verifiable facts concerning the issue. U should feel like crap to realize U are unwittingly poisoning the earth. So feel like crap & have a look. Disinformants understating the lethality of chemtrails should be punished by law, should they continue spraying after knowing facts
Righteo @ uninterestedNU & the 5 or so that run w/him. Let 'em google the site, see the evidence revealed by the USAF @ chemtrail use. May help them WAKE UP.
I'm sorry but are you suggesting we take evidence from a website that concerns itself with 'orbs' & 'channelling'? Is this the height of your evidence that will "WAKE US UP"?? lol, how very scientific.
Look up the word 'credible' & when you understand what it means try coming back with some credible fucking evidence you tit. It kinda helps make things easier to swallow you know. Would it be too much or unreasonable to ask for some actual scientific test results?
So u give up trying to convince ppl @ con/chem trails? After u saw the documents by the USAF admitting to CHEMTRAIL testing done on the public, u want to wash your hands of the whole thing? chemtrailcentral>com 's proof hard to battle, eh? No orbs or channeling in the govt documents SCIENTIFIC PROOF. Just the fact that chemtrails are. U need a seeing-eye dog to look up for u?
well, well if what you have is real that means they were working on electromanetic field purpulsion back in the fourty`s..This fits with the theory of Hitler having anti gravity technologies..
These chemtrails are linked to the UFO`s being seen in last decade`s
Or at least studing it threw weather phonomena patterns...
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i sometimes feel that some of these people dont want to think of their cosy little world being fucked up by conspiracy theories that are too big to take in, its beyond them ! even if its all above them.
I honestly don't understand why you still believe in "chemtrails" after you just made a video showing that these trails existed before the 90's. The chemtrailers are always suggesting that these trails didn't exist before 1991, yet you PROVE that to be false in your own video!!! What is up with you?
They even show, in your book, that a trail is being left while an older trail is still spreading SLOWLY, and you think those are "chemtrails"?! What a fucking moron you must be!
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goddamn man, you think anyone gives a flying fuck what you think?? oh and congratulations on being voted the stupidest person on the internet. it must be such an honor. I know you've been striving for this award and now that you have it, how does it feel?
Yes, I do think someone may give a fuck about what someone with an actual education in these subjects, thinks.
And being voted the "stupidest person on the internet" by someone who belongs to the stupidest group of people in the world, DOES seem like an honor! Thanks!
And it feels GREAT! Thanks!
So, when are you going to the library to get some books so you can actually learn about your own atmosphere?
To point out that they are actually called contrails and to point out that these (you) morons don't know shit about aviation or meteorology yet, they (you) think they (You) know enough to malign an industry of hard working aviation professionals for no other reason other than your own pathetic ignorance, on MANY subjects, that are related to persistent contrail formation.
For someone that doesn't give a shit about my opinion, you sure follow me around a lot!
I am so sorry for you people. I don't ask you to "believe" anything. I can prove my background, though I won't put it on display here for the tinfoil hat crowd. All I've done is to urge you all to seek expert, credible scientific evidence. Go talk with pilots, REAL meteorologists (spaceport=spacecase), atmospheric scientists. I've brought you data, photos, read you the laws.
What counts as evidence to you people? -All I can conclude is: You all WANT this to be real, you don't want the TRUTH.
Please remember everyone, reading is fundamental!
Please learn about your atmosphere and aviation from respectable and reliable sources. Please don't accept youtube videos as "evidence" without first comparing nonsense, to known science.
Two fun subjects that interact with each other in wondrous ways.
Please visit your local airport for a discovery flight, today!
Thanks so much Uni: I go to the Fresno Airport every week and NEVER see anything to associate these with normal flights. I am posting evidence from the INTERNATIONAL CLOUD ATLAS and INTERNATIONAL CLOUD CLASSIFICATION MANUAL: You post Words. I post numerous classification theories prior to 1938. you post shit. neither of my books are "youtube" creations. They are respected I(NTERNATIONAL sources. YOU need to learn to read. bye.
Wait a minute, you read those book and you still can't see that these "chemtrails" are contrails?! WTF?
You said it yourself, jets were just being tested as the mysterious lines started showing up in the sky!
Wow, you are just nuts!
By the way, you won't see anything at the airport. These planes are too close to the ground at that point! You have to see them at altitude, where the air is very cold.
I feel sorry for you. You read the books and still can't put it all together!
Also, it's not only jet engines that leave trails. If a prop plane is within the right conditions, a contrail will form based on the amount of moisture in the air used for combustion.
I'm sorry, you just don't understand the science. Contrails are contrail, not chemtrails.
Forget it. These clowns WANT to "believe" in chemtrails. They live for conspiracies. They all think 911 was an inside job, and the moon landings were faked.
NO amount of scientific evidence would convince them otherwise. They'd just say it's faked. Or that you're a gov't shill.
These are the kind of people that laughed at Copernicus for saying the earth rotates around the sun. Flat earthers. We're wasting our time. They don't want evidence, they WANT chemtrails.
Yes, I am aware of that. They live for this bullshit. I just want to leave a message on these comment sections to encourage ACTUAL education in these subjects. Too may people think they understand the atmosphere but they are completely clueless.
I'm not here for those morons, I'm here to suggest that those on the fence on this matter, should read from books instead of accepting bullshit from morons on youtube, as facts.
You've hit the nail on the head right there, they don't want to believe this is all innocent, their lives are so dull they NEED a good conspiracy to liven things up a little. Wilful ignorance should be a punishable crime & the proponents of this kind of shit should be tarred & feathered & dragged through the streets.
And they have the gall to call us uneducated lol, oh the irony!
Its the same certifiable, straw-munching, moonshine-swigging, toothless simpleton hicks commenting on EVERY chemtrail vid on here. Can you imagine living with this level of paranoia?? They're a psychologists wet-dream.
PAts! Good to see you decided to have a look! I told you these chemtrailers were all off their rockers!!
Hey, we're on the schedule together, tomorrow. Let's lay some real thick chemtails...oops, I mean CONTRAILS all over the sky for them. Hhhahahahahahohaohohoahohohohohohaahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!
lol, isn't it just. Not sure if they can all breathe on their own though, i've heard that they get 'buddied up' with a self-breather to keep kick starting them when they start turning blue :o/
You guys try not to laugh too hard now, we really shouldn't mock the afflicted & if you don't concentrate you might start spraying those dastardly 'chemtrails' over the wrong areas! ;oP
clixster, you seem to know a lot, go get a picture and post it. thats what i do. so far we know "contrails" did not exist as a class untill post 1938. i have the earliest contrail photo. 1944. we close the gap. you have provided no evidence. a little something?
Unfortunately i don't have any recording equipment to make video's or i'd be making them to expose Robert Sepehr but i have given you MORE than enough details for you to find them yourself & if you were GENUINELY interested in the truth you would have done it, instead you continue your wilful ignorance.
I have shown that contrails were documented prior to them receiving cloud classification which kinda makes your argument moot & you know it.
well, go get some recording equipment. its cheap. I buy books and post evidence that promotes discussion. calling me willfully ignorant is shillism. I have provided evidence you type in abusive bullshit. You have not shown anything that sets you up as an authority and ignoring you is hardly a crime.
1) I don't particularly have the time or the inclination if i'm honest, you see this shit isn't a big issue for me, i just enjoy showing you clueless morons up for the uneducated, certifiable loons you truly are.
I've already said, i've given you more than enough evidence to completely debunk your nonsensical claims & so have others & if 'truth' WAS a concern for you then you'd ....
2) ....take a few minutes to look it up. The fact you don't speaks volumes. Wilful ignorance isn't "shillism", (did you make up that word yourself?) it's a fact.
Hear, hear! I gave this guy directions to photos he wanted of contrails from 1940. Does he go look them up? NO. He prattles on about how there were no contrails before 1944. Gimme a break. I should buy stock in Reynolds aluminum, 'cause these fruitcakes are going to be making LOTS of hats...
I've just had one of his pals in the 'shared-brain syndicate' swearing blind to me how contrails never existed prior to 1998. I notice that none of the others didn't pull him up on this even though they knew full well he was talking broken biscuits. It just shows the level of these brain-donors credibility.
Ps. Keep updated on those share prices, ill have some of that ;)
Why do you people bother spending all day, every day, commenting on these videos? Dont you have a life? 1000s of people are dying and this is how you honor them? Google DR. Randy Wymore, Dr. Rosalie Bartell, Dr. Michael Castle, Dr. Hildegard Staninger, Dr. Edward Spencer, Dr. Rahim Karjoo, and many more. These are neurologists, epidemiologists, scientists, toxicologists, etc. They have peer reviewed proof going back 7 years.
Can you refer me to journals where these people dicuss the details of chemtrails? I'm not deniying you guys. It's just that the fact persistent contrails being the supposed culprit for some massive, nefarious spray program is a tough sell for aviation geeks...
chloro, I decided the best way to find the truth is in books. I get them off ebay. International Cloud atlas, etc.. I just got 3 from the 1940-43. one is Meteorology for pilots, 1943,, Cloud study for Royal Met' Society, 1959, and such. I hope to have them on utube "soon" None mention "contrails" So the Class as Contrails seems to come about sometime after 1940. I want to know when the class started.. Contrails from 1942+/- do exist, fighter planes did sometimes leave them.
clusterfk, why should I do your work? you say you have found xyz, then you want me to prove it for you. Why dont you spend $100 and prove your point . I spent way more just on these books. Accusing me of ignorance when you are lazy and cheap just doesnt cut it. cough up a hair ball of truth.
Clusterfk lol, up all night thinking of that one were you? It's a little weak but if as long as it make you laugh.
Now if you believe that i would spend a penny on proving you fucks wrong then you're more delusional than i first perceived.
It is not about me proving something to you, it is about whether or not you are more concerned about truth or fiction, whether you prefer reality as opposed to paranoid delusion.
Like i've said, if you were genuinely interested in the reality of this then you'd WANT to look up as much about them as possible. We have given you enough evidence for you to take a new line of enquiry yet you are so afraid that it will negate your spurious video that you bury that bigol'head of yours. That's your prerogative & your own free choice just don't try & pass it off as a reasonable & unbiased evaluation.
It really doesn't lend well to your credibility, that's for sure.
clusterfk: YOU need to produce something. you shills Never produce any evidence. I post evidence. You post insults. Insult me again and i block you. YOU have something, post it.., dont ask me to prove your point for you. YOU DO IT> . Just Post something and stop asking me to do it for you. Your typing is evidence of shit, YOU produce something or its bye-bye for you. produce or goodbye
You call the guy "clustrfk" and then accuse HIM of being insulting??
I have pointed you to various places to find all that you asked for.
If you don't want to go look, don't expect the world to spoon-feed you.
You just make yourself look ridiculous for not doing the diligent research you SHOULD be doing to find the truth.
I'm only responding because clixster111 sent me mail, and I happened to read your rant. We have science and education on our side: You have nothing, thusfar.
thruthseeker, is a hypocrite in name and deed. YOU post something and live up to your name. you and clstrfk are the same person. YOU put up or shut up. You find something, you post it. You shills never post anything. Never have and never will. You have evidence, enlighten us. All you 2 do is insult and tell other where something is. just post it. Or Get Lost.
I'm afraid you're wrong, again. I don't know clixsert111. I simply know he's not bamboozled by idiocy, as you apparently are.
#1, YT does not allow the posting of URLs.
#2, If you were TRULY interseted in the truth, you'd do the legwork. I even provided detailed instructions to get you to several photos.
#3, I've posted a lot of detailed explanations that are on solid scientific ground. I gave you eveidence of contrails reported as early as 1921. You just don't want the truth.
All you had to do was produce the evidence you say exists. Instead you tells others to go look for it. You can always post that evidence. But you wont. Your kind never do. You accuse and insult. Again, if you have something, post it. Now. I have posted what I have found. Sorry I dont work for you or at this stage listen to you. goodbye. Let us know if you post anything
I GAVE YOU THE INSTRUCTIONS TO FIND 1921 DOCUMENTATION OF CONTRAILS. TOLD WHAT TO TYPE IN, WHERE TO LOOK. "But you wont. Your kind never do. You accuse and insult."
Right back at ya.
I have over 30 years experience in heavy jets, jet engine assembly and maintenance.
ive lived and studied these trails. I HAVE EVEN BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITIES WHO EVEN TOLD ME OUTRIGHT THAT THESE AIRCRAFT ARE MILITARY, these are not civilian which you seemed so sure about.
sudden change in your profile i see, much more annonimity, why that eh. dont like people like me looking at all your airy faerie nonsense about religion.
you mentioned on it you was from greece but like in california.
why are the recent levels of strontium, barium and aluminium in the atmosphere around where you live in california giving off the scale readings ?
do you not mind breathing in toxic air ?
maybe you should give a head a shake, get on to another subject you agree with.
You are truly a freak. I NEVER said I was from "greece", or in "california".
Christ, you spell like a retarded sixth grader.
Grow up.
Oh, and the high levels of all the pollution in california? It's because of all the cars, combined with geographical features that keep a lot of the pollution localized. Ever seen a picture of LA?
There are more cars in Orange county, CA, than there are people. Millions and millions of cars. THink that might have SOMETHING to do with high levels of pollution, hmmmm????
truth seeker is not worth the effort of typing. con trails should last no more than 90 seconds in the most favorable of conditions. this is known fact.
the photos you use mention 1944 and 1945 , how could they appear in the book refered from the 1920s ?
ive better stuff to do than chat to you, cya.
do you religion stuff. your better at it, and that also destroys communities and people
I have some more International Cloud Classification books coming. International is a real word, so the words inside should mean something. I show numerous classification theories from 1938 and earlier. So, 1939,-to 1944 is a date. and i want to see a photo of anything remotely like these from a gas engine. even a 2 stroke! "Memphis Belle 1944" video is a contrail and not close to this pic.
There are MANY photos from WW2 showing all kinds of contrails. All it takes is a little research.
I have MANY photos from ALL THROUGH WW2, in MANY books, showing contrails from single engine fighters.
I know you're not familiar with aviation engines. Go to your local airport. Talk with some pilots and technicians. If they don't start laughing their asses off, they'll be glad to explain things to you, one on one. Depending where you are, I could probably even help you connect with someone.
Google up "Top cover for J group" and go to images. This photo was taken on 27 Sept 1943 during a mission to Emden, Germany. The photograph was taken by S/Sgt. Stanley M. Smith, a waist gunner on A/C #30783, The Stork Club of the 570th Squadron of the 390th Bombardment Group (H), Eighth Air Force, piloted by Lt. Keith E. Harris. The aircraft centered in the picture is B-17F A/C #23329, named Skippy.
There are MANY examples like this throughout the war.
Exactly, chemtrail debunkers always use language that tries to make them sound like experts and they are rabid dogs with no human compassion. They are scum.
I can state with certainty that there is nothing nefarious going on, regarding contrails. However, contrails do, at times, become to pervasive that we switch from VFR to IFR due to limited visibility. There is research being conducted to ascertain the impact of more contrails, upon the planet's climatology. The results are not in, yet, but I'd bet money that we'll be working to reduce contrail formation at some point.
YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY IT, but you dont have an option when it comes to breathing this shit.
and why try to preach to others if you dont believe in it, such strong actions by you suggest really that you know full well the millions of people are not wrong.
why do many `jet airliners `make synchronised crosses via near collisions.
why so many mysterious aircraft crashes recently.why subs crashing.why satellites crashing. why are satellite images being doctored? why`s the atmospheric pressure so low?
you must have posted this to someone else like TSF? I think something is up. with no "contrail" class prior to 1938 that narrows the search to post 1939. I want to see a gas engine make a 100 mile long contrail that last all day. then i want an explanation for what all these jets are doing. it represents a lot of energy and contrails is too simple an explanation
Here's your answer to when contrails were first documented: "The earliest report of both a persistent spreading contrail, with gaps, and a distrail comes very shortly after, in 1921, in the US. Air Service Newsletter.
An altitude flight was made in the morning at McCook Field recently by Lieut. J. A. Macready in a La Pere with supercharged Liberty [engine]. When the airplane reached a height of 26,000-27,000 feet at 11:50 a.m....
...a long feathery white streamer was observed forming behind a rapidly moving dark speck. The cloud was of the cirrus variety, well defined at the edges and apparently 10 to 15 times the width of the plane. The sky behind the first portion was clear blue with no clouds in the near neighborhood. The first streamer seemed perhaps 2 miles long. Then a gap of one-quarter mile....
Look. I'm not making anything up. I cite my sources.
Answer me this: Why would any gov't want to kill it's own populace? THat's it's source of funding?
And how does any gov't, let alone the number in question here, keep a secret like this from every pilot, technician, designer, engineer, tool maker, parts manufacturer and maintenance technician? Or, is the postulate that ALL those people are somehow in on it?
i keep track of temperatures and aircraft movements. pronounced drops in temp can be observed simultaneously to some of the aircraft flying overhead, upto 2`c falls in a couple of minutes without wind or any obvious met changes. this is like you one huge amount of ambient energy going somewhere ?!!
could i find the book with the 1944 hampshire `con` (its a con alright) trails i the library. im a meteorologist and am interseted in finding the title of this un-named reference material you use at the start of the vid, the one after the `clouds` book which is obviously shown as a book but really serves no purpose apart from making the viewer subliminally assume that the next clip is also a book, which i doubt.
please send me the reference and ill check out its legitimacy on the net.
Oh, TRUTH-thing poster, despite I thank the OP whom I subbed yesterday, for removing your comment, I'll say, just cause you are a pro in aviation, it doesn't mean that you know eveything that goes on.
Oh, my creds:
-Video playlists, seek and you will find, me no time!
-GOOGLE IT
-10 Downing Street, London,GB, ask Mr Brown.
-Your MP knows too.
-Environment agencies
You will be surprised at what you find. And I garantee you you will find answers, and COMPARE them.
You think contrails can only be made by jets, wrong.
HHOinfo 1 year ago
@HHOinfo No, but don't give me just references, give me some evidence, like I do here. A picture would be nice. I show prop planes making contrails. But not 100 miles and more long. I think a great man like sky daddy AlGore should drop in on this subject. He has answers to all environmental issues. He even found an ozone hole over Kennybunkport.
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism Contrails are made of ice crystals from water in the exhaust and the surrounding air. They vanish because the ice turns back into water vapor. If will vanish faster if the air is dry and/or relatively warm. They can stay for a long time though.
Learn more at contrailscience com
HHOinfo 1 year ago
@HHOinfo Is there anything else you would like to inform everyone of? Feel free to keep typing.
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
How does atmospheric variability play into contrails? It's a question I ponder often. What are the rates of incoming cosmic dust (which can act as cloud / contrail nuclei) and how much does that vary from month to month, year to year? Additionally how much does volcano soot and soot from coal burning play apart? Vapor trails are causing weather modification. If it inadvertent? Keep looking up. Keep an eye on spaceweatherdotcom as being inside a solar stream = great cloud effects.
bryansail33 2 years ago
@bryansail33 I have recent posts showing contrails in immediate proximity to these "chemtrails". Did you see my "Amazing cloud patterns" ? That followed some interesting spraying the day prior.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
can you explain what you believe you found in these books please respond
283inc 2 years ago
These pics appear to be the earliest examples of what ever "chemtrails" are. I can't find anything like this prior to 1944. Jets were just being used in 1944. And mostly German. This pic is in England. Where did all these "jets"come from and go to? Did they drop bombs? I have found contrails back to 1939 but they are nothing like this pic. By looking in old Nat' Geo' and such photographs will show when these trails started. It had to be around 1944. I really doubt Piston engines will do this
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
the biggest crime is not murder the biggest crime is falsifying history.
murder can be forgiven,justified,and deserved
history is the only thing everyone shares together
without a factual history we will never reach our full potential.never reaching out to take our place in the stars exploring and colonizing any rock willing to bare our burden.we argue about everything we have no goals no real achievements.without factional history our childrens goals and devotions will be mislead and distorted
283inc 2 years ago
Read 1984
wonderwendy1968 2 years ago
I read it so long ago. I don't recall strange clouds
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
No strange clouds in the story. I was referring to the altering history books. I remember contrails, butI never saw chemtrails till the early 90's.
wonderwendy1968 2 years ago
Ahh, the history....The Mormons alter history w/o so much as a footnote. It is curious the above photo is used in the additional years of the International Cloud Atlas. I have a video to make on this subject. I bought some 12 Cloud books from 1920-1943. I have found no trails like these but have found contrails in dog fights. So contrails seem to start around 1938 and the above is the earliest example. the movie "Koyaanisqatsi". 1980, has examples of these trails.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Have you seen "CHEMA KILL" on utube yet? With the amount of dis and misinformation being put out, for the affect on the perception of validity, I have no idea what to think about your video. I will look into it further, thanks.
bigc028282 2 years ago
bigc, I will check it out. Here is whats nice about my videos: They are based on the contents of agreed upon classifications in books. And Chemtrails, when ever they occurred can be found in national geographic and other mags. My movie maker isnt working but I have a movie showing that trails like those shown here are classified as contrails somewhere around 1943. I found art to c. 1942 for what we would agree are contrails. But this smeared sky in 1944 really surprised me and still does
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Totally crazy! I don't remember seeing any chemtrails when I was a kid. I remember following the contrails to see the plane. Now, there are mostly chemtrails, that spread into clouds, and the plane is gone a long time ago. I watch all the time now, and just yesterday and they were overlapping at almost the same time. I am in N MN.
Chema Kill has the media, legislation, and archival government docs in it. It's the best one I have seen yet.
bigc028282 2 years ago
bigc, as u can c, these existed in this form in 1944. But I am sure this did not persist over time. Out here we have 1/4 =/-as many as last year..It is very noticeable in the absence. Type in "Koyaanisqatsi". A movie. It shows these trails in c. 1980. Try my "Gorgeous cloud patterns" video from april. very odd. I don't know why they do it, why so many last year and so few now but its not the sky, its "them".
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
You will find contrails like we commonly see. By all means, go find one like these. Just one. Your dismissive tone does nothing to increase your "expertise". PROOF. post something. I have the contrails of Memphis Belle.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Whats unusual is the altitude and number of them. Jets were very few in number and prop planes dont leave a trail like this. So, If jets did these trails it should be easy for someone as knowledgable as yourself to locate the battle involved. This had to be a major battle with German Jets. So it is a significant event. Why dont you research this and see what you can find, you seem very smart.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
they are lien
lelandshane 2 years ago
What is lien? checkout my "Gorgeous Cloud Patterns" video
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
vapor sticking to exhaust particles? the moisture is there, it just need something to stick to, like drops form on a cold can of soda.
pocketsurfer 2 years ago
It's 1944 and the sky looks like today. Jets were new. It was the end of the war. I cant see a prop plane doing this.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Maybe it's because contrails and clouds are different things. I'm pretty sure you're not gonna find tire tracks as a classification in a book on geological phenomena, but that's not because they're secretly land chemtrails.
uberjim83 2 years ago 2
Thats good, I like that! But the contrail as a class does exist but exactly when is uncertain. It is after 1939. I have contrails in prop planes in 1941. Smoke trails from planes over ocean in 1922. I looked at this photo for 1/2 hr and said "If I was military and saw this I would send these planes out first and then fly the good stuff over the top". But of course I am just paranoid and not military......
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
That doesn't mean there were no contrails before that, only that they weren't called that yet.
uberjim83 2 years ago
"Condensation Trails" seem to exist as a word around 1930 something. As a classification, after 1939. Having a prop plane leave a contrail 200 miles long that hangs around all day seems excessive.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Planes are bigger nowadays.
uberjim83 2 years ago 2
Not sure what plane size has to do with this interesting photo of what was done by Small Fighter Jets (my assumption) How can they do this.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
The bigger and hotter an engine is, the more water will condense in its wake. Planes in the 30s and 40s were small and cool by modern standards.
uberjim83 2 years ago
good vid.... glad someone has looked into this.
ReinhardvonHolst 2 years ago
My only question is how did you think the picture from 1987 looked anything like the 1944 picture?
dcpunker2006 2 years ago 2
The pictures in the 1956-87 atlas' are the same photo. they are ID'd as the same in the books. take at look at my "gorgeous clouds" video. 3 versions, long one is most interesting. I have more books on clouds and still no contrails as a classification thru 1943. but contrails did exist in c. 1940. Its in the plane art I have found
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
This is most interesting, yet it doesn't really say too much. It's entirely possible for contrails to form from prop aircraft and did from B-17s over Germany. Also, there is a question of time and scale. How old are these trails and how big are they? Are the minutes old or hours old? Are they meters across the diameter or are they kilometers across. These factors matter in assigning the status of persistence in a contrail.
nevermo801 3 years ago
These are miles long, exactly how many I am not sure but more than 10. The text I read indicates the wide one is over 1/2 hour. I posted some International Cloud Classification books and prior to 1938 no contrail class exists. contrails do exist in 1940, I post that as well, in the form of dog fights painted in 1940.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
they are Rewriting History
lelandshane 3 years ago
. I do know that this artificial cloud cover has got to have some effect on the weather. just like the cover of a green house. Why should the aviation Industry get to create artificial cloud banks that cover the sky as far as the eye can see?
zugadabifida 3 years ago
I am not Military, but if I saw this occur I would think "Hey, fly some guys low and then we can fly a real surprise Over it!". But that's mean spirited. As to why they can do this, because they can..... I would like to know Exactly what this is and what is occurring today. The things like the photo seen here so not seem the results of exhaust gas....
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I don't know what the streamers are made of but I would like my blue skis back. I see "chem trails" and "contrails" at the same time from planes that appear in the same air space. I don't care if they are intentional or unintentional but the fact is they steal my blue skis and I DON'T like it. even if they are nothing but water vapor it pisses me off that I have my beautiful blue skis stolen from me on a regular basis
zugadabifida 3 years ago 2
I own a commercial grounds maintenance co and a tree service. I know nothing about aviation, but I work outside everyday. In the morning I go to work in blue skis and by three o'clock the trails have turned the entire sky white
zugadabifida 3 years ago 2
Truth doesn't care about you or you blocking him. He KNOWS you're all a bunch of cavemen with no knowledge of aviation. I agree with him. I fly with him every week.
You people are certifiable.
patsaretherealchumps 3 years ago 4
Good, you can take a flying fk at the moon with your little friend.,. You and your buddies NEVER post anything. all you do is yap. Yip and Yap. You bark little dog, got any bite at all? post something. bye.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I'd break my reclusive lifestyle and come and help but I live a million miles from you.
as far as storing your pics and files, there are several inexpensive ways to do so.
Yoetah 3 years ago
What a poor sore loser. You don't get your way, so you block people like the BITCH you are. Go fuck yourself foilhead.
patsaretherealchumps 3 years ago 4
The presence of trolls is a fantastic sign that you're striking nerves
Yoetah 3 years ago
Yoetah, Yes, but i had to block them. They just kept saying they had evidence put produce nothing. then they insult me for not producing and posting their claims. Neither will ever post a video because they are shills. If they post a video they run the risk of having their computer "IP address's" exposed. All they had to do was carry on a debate. These shills are common on 911/WTC sites. They all use the same MO. So, they are gone. But if they Post ANYTHING, I would love to know.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I've been dealing with these little boys for years
They end up going away like whipped puppies with their tail between their legs..
They are cowards of the worst kind!
I don't bother with them any longer.
Their main purpose is TO engage you-to zap your energy-to wear you down.
It's right to block them, unless they make a threatening comment, then i leave it...of course, we've witnessed YOUTUBE protecting those who threaten us.
It will come back to haunt youtube employees
when YT is closed down.
Yoetah 3 years ago
No they don't, they continue to hit you with facts & requests for non-existent evidence. They show you delusional brain-donors up for what you are, uneducated fuckwits who have painfully dull lives & speak with utter ignorance of the aviation industry & he science of contrails. If only you bothered your lazy arses to read up on the subject as opposed to listening to moronic cretins like this fool who expects to be spoon-fed. You're all a bunch of lying, clueless, hick bastards.
flypaper4weirdos 3 years ago 2
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fkypaper, good morning...glad you're here trying to discredit me...it's a great sign...i have no problem with you my friend...you're just doing your job!
Yoetah 3 years ago
*sigh* please, when you obtain something more than a youtube education, come back & we can perhaps have a serious conversation instead of you simply giving us your uneducated & delusional opinion. I don't need to discredit you, you do that yourself with your level of stupidity. The fact is there is NO evidence for this crap & EVERYTHING you people mention is easily explained with contrails. Tell me, why does this stuff they're spraying build up anywhere ie, buildings, airplane wings etc.?
flypaper4weirdos 3 years ago 4
From what i can see you basically block those who disagree with you. After reading through the comments i've managed to look up what clixster & were talking about in 30 seconds. What is your argument, you're wrong you just won't admit it. Why won't you look up the details you've been given when it's so simple? As somebody said, you want this to be real.
ReptilianFreemason 3 years ago
RepitllianFreemason. You are just like the other 3 shills whom clog this page and others with your insults. You say something exists yet you refuse to post evidence of it. You tell others to do it for you. Why dont you go over to NuffRespect page and post there and see how long you last. As long as you last here: goodbye. Stop asking me to prove your point. Collect your evidence, post it and people will see it. 1944 is the earliest known Contrail There was no contrail class prior to 1939. facts
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
Are you unable to conduct a simple google search? A 30 second search will confirm everything said. Nobody's asking you to post anything & i'm not asking you to look anything up FOR me, i'm simply telling you that the evidence is available your finger tips without having to leave your chair.
You can lead a horse to water......
flypaper4weirdos 3 years ago 2
flypaper, I have bought some 20 books and I am posting the contents. Wikipedia reality is unhealthy. You need original documents. I am reading up. You are insulting. If you want to post some of your finding, please do so. just saying it or typing it isn't evidence. So, put up or shut up.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
You've bought 20 books yet you refuse to conduct a 30 second google search? Seems kinda strange to me. Can i just say that the details you have been provided with are FAR more credible than any book you speak of, theyre actual aviation reports! It's straight from the horses mouth, it doesn't get any more credible lol.
Once again, URL's are not allowed to be posted as you're fully aware of. 30 second google search, what's the problem? lol, you just don't want to be wrong do you.
flypaper4weirdos 3 years ago 4
flypaper, you can stick around for a bit. 4 of you shilloids, probably all the same shill, keep saying the same thing. Why dont you post some evidence? Yesterday I posted another video showing contrails in 1940. But they aren't 200 miles longs and miles wide. I post evidence. I show no "contrail" class existed in the International Cloud Classification books prior to 1939. I have more 1940's books coming. You type in shit. If your right, and your not, I will prove it.Also posted Propane Contrail
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I'm not going to repeat myself, i've said what i wanted to be say & anybody of fair mind who reads through the comments i think see who is the one in denial here. In fact i'd delete those comments quick because theyll more than likely do that said google search & see for themselves what a deluded individual you really are. Your evidence is outstandingly pathetic & completely ignorant of the facts, worse still it's wilful ignorance. Block away big man, either way you lose BIGtime.
flypaper4weirdos 3 years ago
Oh, no,no, Mcfly, you are blocked and all your comments stay. and all the comments by other douche bags like you stay. But you go. Now, off with you McFly, back to mommy. bye Mcfly,
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
And why do you even bother doing all this when 1000's are sick and cities have won lawsuits like Esplanola in Canada? What is your point of making all this effort? People just want answers and you just want to argue.
iggy6 2 years ago
What about the head of epidemiology Rosalie Bartell? Dr. Michael Castle? Dr. Staninger? Dr. Randy Wymore? Dr. Rahim Karjoo? These have all the evidence you need. They have found nanotech and boilogical contents that are not even in FBI forensic files! Theyve done lab tests along with dozens of electron microscope tests. Google those doctors and scientists and read their peer-reviewed research done in the last 8 years. Not in 1944 or 1938!
iggy6 2 years ago
test, my comments aren't posting
PITY!
Yoetah 3 years ago
Yoteh< I have had the same problem here. post 3-5 times. Reptilian and the other 3 shills are gone from here. I wont do their home work. THey say they have something and refuse to post it, then blame you for not posting it. shill behavior
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
It's an age old tactic. I've better things to do with my PRECIOUS energy.
The day will come soon, and hopefully not at the expense of too much more funding [wasting tax payer money] to fund a fraudulent GLOBAL WARMING project & a military operation which require the ionosphere to be filled with Al and Ba. Weatherman explains a cluttered radar as being a military op:
watch?v=qc0TWVtozio
Yoetah 3 years ago
I have seen the video, the Germans are good at it. Mercedes has their own plane they fly over their huge property testing grounds and they spray it to change the weather near them. This was described in detail on a Speed TV show. Saw it on youtube also. Its obvious this can be done. And is being done. The shilloids claim all of this is normal and its not. I doubt the 1944 photo is normal. I have some more books coming. pre 1944. Look in old Nat' Geo' and such for pics. the truth is out there
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
Mornin' reptile, TOO MUCH MONKEY BUSINESS!
Education VS entertainment
In response to your criticism of my "youtube education:" any edu is good education.
Did you know a recent survey revealed that 90% of college grads knew of Beavis and Butthead while only 10% knew John Q. Adams?
Education is a pathetic state of affairs since the Socialists retained control of the U.S. State Dept. and education system {see Norman Dodd-Reece Comm Investigation of 1954}
Yoetah 3 years ago
Yup, education is baaaaaaad .............. *slowly edges backwards towards the door* lol
flypaper4weirdos 3 years ago 2
Yes & I just blocked him from commenting on my home page. I will laugh at his spew at the sites where he dare spew. But he needs new material. The same old name-calling is getting old. He needs a retrofit and an upgrade on the moral scene.
Cloudy2Clear 3 years ago
Google God. 74mill+ hits.
So God is @ 5x more real than fairies & @ 10x more real than chemtrails?
PROVE that cars exhaust kills people.
Many documents suggest that, but do they directly prove it? NOPE!!! Tougher tit here than u think. Any "proof" can be discredited.
So open your eyes to the grid pattern chemtrails sprayed daily & ask not if, but WHY.
To poison us or to raise the level of the ionosphere for HAARP? none so blind as those who refuse to see...
Cloudy2Clear 3 years ago
chemtrailcentralditcom has some nice government disclosures @ chemtrails. Of the 7,270,000 references on google, this is on the 1st page. b4 commenting further @ the "innocence" of the airplane business, checkout some verifiable facts concerning the issue. U should feel like crap to realize U are unwittingly poisoning the earth. So feel like crap & have a look. Disinformants understating the lethality of chemtrails should be punished by law, should they continue spraying after knowing facts
Cloudy2Clear 3 years ago
Cloudy, you dont mean me? this was for uninterestedNU guy?
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
No i didn't mean u. Sorry for miscommunication.
Righteo @ uninterestedNU & the 5 or so that run w/him. Let 'em google the site, see the evidence revealed by the USAF @ chemtrail use. May help them WAKE UP.
Cloudy2Clear 3 years ago
I'm sorry but are you suggesting we take evidence from a website that concerns itself with 'orbs' & 'channelling'? Is this the height of your evidence that will "WAKE US UP"?? lol, how very scientific.
Look up the word 'credible' & when you understand what it means try coming back with some credible fucking evidence you tit. It kinda helps make things easier to swallow you know. Would it be too much or unreasonable to ask for some actual scientific test results?
cIixster111 3 years ago
"Of the 7,270,000 references on google,"
And I put "fairies" in for a search on google and it came back with 14, 500,000 hits! That means fairies are twice as real as chemtrails!
Anything that has an engine, pollutes the earth.
Big fucking deal! Cars kill more joggers with the exhaust they spew than airplanes ever will.
Seek help, you paranoid moron.
Don't bother replying, I will never see it! LOL!!!
UninterestedNU 3 years ago 4
U replied on my channel so...
U just got blocked by the 10th channel.
Seems u piss a lot of ppl off w/your BS.
So u give up trying to convince ppl @ con/chem trails? After u saw the documents by the USAF admitting to CHEMTRAIL testing done on the public, u want to wash your hands of the whole thing? chemtrailcentral>com 's proof hard to battle, eh? No orbs or channeling in the govt documents SCIENTIFIC PROOF. Just the fact that chemtrails are. U need a seeing-eye dog to look up for u?
Cloudy2Clear 3 years ago
cloudy, is it Uninterested again? I hate to block someone. not ready yet. but cant say i blame you!
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
well, well if what you have is real that means they were working on electromanetic field purpulsion back in the fourty`s..This fits with the theory of Hitler having anti gravity technologies..
These chemtrails are linked to the UFO`s being seen in last decade`s
Or at least studing it threw weather phonomena patterns...
clnmyjts 3 years ago
None are so blind as those who REFUSE to see.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
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Big TROUBLES, in deed !!!
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Doc
DocLottaLove 3 years ago
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i sometimes feel that some of these people dont want to think of their cosy little world being fucked up by conspiracy theories that are too big to take in, its beyond them ! even if its all above them.
spaceportseven 3 years ago
Let one of them post a video or a photo. the proof is in the pudding. I am making pudding. they are making shit.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I told you where to find LOTS of photos, even gave you the damn instructions, to the letter, to find it.
You just don't WANT the truth.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
ANYONE FROM THE US MILITARY IS GOING TO TALK BULL ShIT, YOU ARE TRAINED COLD BLOODED KILLERS , DONT FORGET THAT. YOU HAVE NO MORALS.
spaceportseven 3 years ago
Go back to sleep, little sheep.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
glad ive touched a nerve, for something that does not exist you get quite irate about it !!
spaceportseven 3 years ago
I honestly don't understand why you still believe in "chemtrails" after you just made a video showing that these trails existed before the 90's. The chemtrailers are always suggesting that these trails didn't exist before 1991, yet you PROVE that to be false in your own video!!! What is up with you?
They even show, in your book, that a trail is being left while an older trail is still spreading SLOWLY, and you think those are "chemtrails"?! What a fucking moron you must be!
UninterestedNU 3 years ago
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goddamn man, you think anyone gives a flying fuck what you think?? oh and congratulations on being voted the stupidest person on the internet. it must be such an honor. I know you've been striving for this award and now that you have it, how does it feel?
rewindme 3 years ago
Yes, I do think someone may give a fuck about what someone with an actual education in these subjects, thinks.
And being voted the "stupidest person on the internet" by someone who belongs to the stupidest group of people in the world, DOES seem like an honor! Thanks!
And it feels GREAT! Thanks!
So, when are you going to the library to get some books so you can actually learn about your own atmosphere?
You don't know shit about it NOW!
UninterestedNU 3 years ago 4
LMAO. for someone that doesnt believe in chemtrails, you sure spend alot of time commenting and viewing chemtrail videos. why is that?
rewindme 3 years ago
To point out that they are actually called contrails and to point out that these (you) morons don't know shit about aviation or meteorology yet, they (you) think they (You) know enough to malign an industry of hard working aviation professionals for no other reason other than your own pathetic ignorance, on MANY subjects, that are related to persistent contrail formation.
For someone that doesn't give a shit about my opinion, you sure follow me around a lot!
Go read a book, retard.
UninterestedNU 3 years ago 2
rewindme: so true on his views and no videos. If they have evidence, post it. then we can stop being so Persistent.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I am so sorry for you people. I don't ask you to "believe" anything. I can prove my background, though I won't put it on display here for the tinfoil hat crowd. All I've done is to urge you all to seek expert, credible scientific evidence. Go talk with pilots, REAL meteorologists (spaceport=spacecase), atmospheric scientists. I've brought you data, photos, read you the laws.
What counts as evidence to you people? -All I can conclude is: You all WANT this to be real, you don't want the TRUTH.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
Please remember everyone, reading is fundamental!
Please learn about your atmosphere and aviation from respectable and reliable sources. Please don't accept youtube videos as "evidence" without first comparing nonsense, to known science.
Two fun subjects that interact with each other in wondrous ways.
Please visit your local airport for a discovery flight, today!
Thank You for your time.
UninterestedNU 3 years ago
Thanks so much Uni: I go to the Fresno Airport every week and NEVER see anything to associate these with normal flights. I am posting evidence from the INTERNATIONAL CLOUD ATLAS and INTERNATIONAL CLOUD CLASSIFICATION MANUAL: You post Words. I post numerous classification theories prior to 1938. you post shit. neither of my books are "youtube" creations. They are respected I(NTERNATIONAL sources. YOU need to learn to read. bye.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
Wait a minute, you read those book and you still can't see that these "chemtrails" are contrails?! WTF?
You said it yourself, jets were just being tested as the mysterious lines started showing up in the sky!
Wow, you are just nuts!
By the way, you won't see anything at the airport. These planes are too close to the ground at that point! You have to see them at altitude, where the air is very cold.
I feel sorry for you. You read the books and still can't put it all together!
Moron!
UninterestedNU 3 years ago 2
Also, it's not only jet engines that leave trails. If a prop plane is within the right conditions, a contrail will form based on the amount of moisture in the air used for combustion.
I'm sorry, you just don't understand the science. Contrails are contrail, not chemtrails.
Only a complete fool can't understand this!
UninterestedNU 3 years ago
Hey, Uninterested,
Forget it. These clowns WANT to "believe" in chemtrails. They live for conspiracies. They all think 911 was an inside job, and the moon landings were faked.
NO amount of scientific evidence would convince them otherwise. They'd just say it's faked. Or that you're a gov't shill.
These are the kind of people that laughed at Copernicus for saying the earth rotates around the sun. Flat earthers. We're wasting our time. They don't want evidence, they WANT chemtrails.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 2
Yes, I am aware of that. They live for this bullshit. I just want to leave a message on these comment sections to encourage ACTUAL education in these subjects. Too may people think they understand the atmosphere but they are completely clueless.
I'm not here for those morons, I'm here to suggest that those on the fence on this matter, should read from books instead of accepting bullshit from morons on youtube, as facts.
UninterestedNU 3 years ago
You've hit the nail on the head right there, they don't want to believe this is all innocent, their lives are so dull they NEED a good conspiracy to liven things up a little. Wilful ignorance should be a punishable crime & the proponents of this kind of shit should be tarred & feathered & dragged through the streets.
And they have the gall to call us uneducated lol, oh the irony!
cIixster111 3 years ago
Agreed, 100%.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
Its the same certifiable, straw-munching, moonshine-swigging, toothless simpleton hicks commenting on EVERY chemtrail vid on here. Can you imagine living with this level of paranoia?? They're a psychologists wet-dream.
cIixster111 3 years ago
I know. It's like a psychotic retard convention.
If they could find the faintest, dim, glimmer of a clue, they'd be dangerous.
It's amazing they can breathe on their own.
Gotta go. Walk-around in 20 minutes. Take-off in an hour. My colleagues here are rolling on the floor laughing at these freaks.
patsaretherealchumps 3 years ago
PAts! Good to see you decided to have a look! I told you these chemtrailers were all off their rockers!!
Hey, we're on the schedule together, tomorrow. Let's lay some real thick chemtails...oops, I mean CONTRAILS all over the sky for them. Hhhahahahahahohaohohoahohohohohohaahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
lol, isn't it just. Not sure if they can all breathe on their own though, i've heard that they get 'buddied up' with a self-breather to keep kick starting them when they start turning blue :o/
You guys try not to laugh too hard now, we really shouldn't mock the afflicted & if you don't concentrate you might start spraying those dastardly 'chemtrails' over the wrong areas! ;oP
cIixster111 3 years ago
clixster, you seem to know a lot, go get a picture and post it. thats what i do. so far we know "contrails" did not exist as a class untill post 1938. i have the earliest contrail photo. 1944. we close the gap. you have provided no evidence. a little something?
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
Unfortunately i don't have any recording equipment to make video's or i'd be making them to expose Robert Sepehr but i have given you MORE than enough details for you to find them yourself & if you were GENUINELY interested in the truth you would have done it, instead you continue your wilful ignorance.
I have shown that contrails were documented prior to them receiving cloud classification which kinda makes your argument moot & you know it.
cIixster111 3 years ago 2
well, go get some recording equipment. its cheap. I buy books and post evidence that promotes discussion. calling me willfully ignorant is shillism. I have provided evidence you type in abusive bullshit. You have not shown anything that sets you up as an authority and ignoring you is hardly a crime.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
1) I don't particularly have the time or the inclination if i'm honest, you see this shit isn't a big issue for me, i just enjoy showing you clueless morons up for the uneducated, certifiable loons you truly are.
I've already said, i've given you more than enough evidence to completely debunk your nonsensical claims & so have others & if 'truth' WAS a concern for you then you'd ....
cIixster111 3 years ago 2
2) ....take a few minutes to look it up. The fact you don't speaks volumes. Wilful ignorance isn't "shillism", (did you make up that word yourself?) it's a fact.
cIixster111 3 years ago 3
Hear, hear! I gave this guy directions to photos he wanted of contrails from 1940. Does he go look them up? NO. He prattles on about how there were no contrails before 1944. Gimme a break. I should buy stock in Reynolds aluminum, 'cause these fruitcakes are going to be making LOTS of hats...
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 2
I've just had one of his pals in the 'shared-brain syndicate' swearing blind to me how contrails never existed prior to 1998. I notice that none of the others didn't pull him up on this even though they knew full well he was talking broken biscuits. It just shows the level of these brain-donors credibility.
Ps. Keep updated on those share prices, ill have some of that ;)
cIixster111 3 years ago 3
Why do you people bother spending all day, every day, commenting on these videos? Dont you have a life? 1000s of people are dying and this is how you honor them? Google DR. Randy Wymore, Dr. Rosalie Bartell, Dr. Michael Castle, Dr. Hildegard Staninger, Dr. Edward Spencer, Dr. Rahim Karjoo, and many more. These are neurologists, epidemiologists, scientists, toxicologists, etc. They have peer reviewed proof going back 7 years.
iggy6 2 years ago
iggy, you shuold see some of the other ones.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Can you refer me to journals where these people dicuss the details of chemtrails? I'm not deniying you guys. It's just that the fact persistent contrails being the supposed culprit for some massive, nefarious spray program is a tough sell for aviation geeks...
chloroxjello 2 years ago
chloro, I decided the best way to find the truth is in books. I get them off ebay. International Cloud atlas, etc.. I just got 3 from the 1940-43. one is Meteorology for pilots, 1943,, Cloud study for Royal Met' Society, 1959, and such. I hope to have them on utube "soon" None mention "contrails" So the Class as Contrails seems to come about sometime after 1940. I want to know when the class started.. Contrails from 1942+/- do exist, fighter planes did sometimes leave them.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
chloro, check out my "Gorgeous clouds" video. I have 3 versions, the long one is 8+ min and is very interesting.....
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
iggy, I am not sure what you are trying to say. please expand.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
clusterfk, why should I do your work? you say you have found xyz, then you want me to prove it for you. Why dont you spend $100 and prove your point . I spent way more just on these books. Accusing me of ignorance when you are lazy and cheap just doesnt cut it. cough up a hair ball of truth.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
1.
Clusterfk lol, up all night thinking of that one were you? It's a little weak but if as long as it make you laugh.
Now if you believe that i would spend a penny on proving you fucks wrong then you're more delusional than i first perceived.
It is not about me proving something to you, it is about whether or not you are more concerned about truth or fiction, whether you prefer reality as opposed to paranoid delusion.
cIixster111 3 years ago
2.
Like i've said, if you were genuinely interested in the reality of this then you'd WANT to look up as much about them as possible. We have given you enough evidence for you to take a new line of enquiry yet you are so afraid that it will negate your spurious video that you bury that bigol'head of yours. That's your prerogative & your own free choice just don't try & pass it off as a reasonable & unbiased evaluation.
It really doesn't lend well to your credibility, that's for sure.
cIixster111 3 years ago
clusterfk: YOU need to produce something. you shills Never produce any evidence. I post evidence. You post insults. Insult me again and i block you. YOU have something, post it.., dont ask me to prove your point for you. YOU DO IT> . Just Post something and stop asking me to do it for you. Your typing is evidence of shit, YOU produce something or its bye-bye for you. produce or goodbye
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
You call the guy "clustrfk" and then accuse HIM of being insulting??
I have pointed you to various places to find all that you asked for.
If you don't want to go look, don't expect the world to spoon-feed you.
You just make yourself look ridiculous for not doing the diligent research you SHOULD be doing to find the truth.
I'm only responding because clixster111 sent me mail, and I happened to read your rant. We have science and education on our side: You have nothing, thusfar.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
thruthseeker, is a hypocrite in name and deed. YOU post something and live up to your name. you and clstrfk are the same person. YOU put up or shut up. You find something, you post it. You shills never post anything. Never have and never will. You have evidence, enlighten us. All you 2 do is insult and tell other where something is. just post it. Or Get Lost.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I'm afraid you're wrong, again. I don't know clixsert111. I simply know he's not bamboozled by idiocy, as you apparently are.
#1, YT does not allow the posting of URLs.
#2, If you were TRULY interseted in the truth, you'd do the legwork. I even provided detailed instructions to get you to several photos.
#3, I've posted a lot of detailed explanations that are on solid scientific ground. I gave you eveidence of contrails reported as early as 1921. You just don't want the truth.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 3
You call ME insulting, yet you are the one with all the insults.
Brilliant.
It fits right in with your unscientific approach to research.
YOU WANT "chemtrails" to be real, so you'll make plenty of idiotic friends to fill up your vapid, pathetic, and soulless lives.
Better buy some heavy duty tinfoil for those hats, moron, beccause I'm going to be filling the sky with contrails today.
YOU'RE the shill; for an internet hoax conspiracy. Drown in your own drool, idiot.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 2
All you had to do was produce the evidence you say exists. Instead you tells others to go look for it. You can always post that evidence. But you wont. Your kind never do. You accuse and insult. Again, if you have something, post it. Now. I have posted what I have found. Sorry I dont work for you or at this stage listen to you. goodbye. Let us know if you post anything
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
Are you retarded???
I GAVE YOU THE INSTRUCTIONS TO FIND 1921 DOCUMENTATION OF CONTRAILS. TOLD WHAT TO TYPE IN, WHERE TO LOOK. "But you wont. Your kind never do. You accuse and insult."
Right back at ya.
I have over 30 years experience in heavy jets, jet engine assembly and maintenance.
What are YOUR qualifications in this field?????
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
Hahahaha!!!! You go to the AIRPORT to see contrails?!?!?!?!??
Do yourself a favor: Get some meteorological education, please. You're making an absolute fool of yourself.
Contrails happen at HIGH ALTITUDE, in VERY COLD AIR.
You may go to the airport, but you obviously don't talk to any pilots. I suggest you do.
I've posted real facts, here. Given you resources to examine, and you still won't accept a fact when it's presented to you.
So, what kind of evidence, EXACTLY, do you need?
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 2
ive lived and studied these trails. I HAVE EVEN BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITIES WHO EVEN TOLD ME OUTRIGHT THAT THESE AIRCRAFT ARE MILITARY, these are not civilian which you seemed so sure about.
spaceportseven 3 years ago
You are a fucking LIAR!
Not to mention, a moron.
That, or they recognized that another moron has contacted them about this and they set you up. You decide which is true!
All "chemtrails" are contrails.
FACT!
UninterestedNU 3 years ago
I spent ten years in the military, working on all kinds of aircraft.
Face it, you do not have a scientific leg to stand on.
Go back to looking for Bigfoot. That's more your speed.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
sudden change in your profile i see, much more annonimity, why that eh. dont like people like me looking at all your airy faerie nonsense about religion.
you mentioned on it you was from greece but like in california.
why are the recent levels of strontium, barium and aluminium in the atmosphere around where you live in california giving off the scale readings ?
do you not mind breathing in toxic air ?
maybe you should give a head a shake, get on to another subject you agree with.
spaceportseven 3 years ago
You are truly a freak. I NEVER said I was from "greece", or in "california".
Christ, you spell like a retarded sixth grader.
Grow up.
Oh, and the high levels of all the pollution in california? It's because of all the cars, combined with geographical features that keep a lot of the pollution localized. Ever seen a picture of LA?
You don't have the faintest glimmer of a clue.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
There are more cars in Orange county, CA, than there are people. Millions and millions of cars. THink that might have SOMETHING to do with high levels of pollution, hmmmm????
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago 2
"You don't have the faintest glimmer of a clue. "
The understatement of the century.
UninterestedNU 3 years ago
Uuuumm, I've NEVER changed my profile, you brain-dead fool.
Go find a life. Get an education.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
truth seeker is not worth the effort of typing. con trails should last no more than 90 seconds in the most favorable of conditions. this is known fact.
the photos you use mention 1944 and 1945 , how could they appear in the book refered from the 1920s ?
ive better stuff to do than chat to you, cya.
do you religion stuff. your better at it, and that also destroys communities and people
religion=control=cash
spaceportseven 3 years ago
"con trails should last no more than 90 seconds in the most favorable of conditions. this is known fact."
No, it's not. That is a fucking lie and mirrors the beliefs of all retarded chemtrail nuts (CNUTS for short).
Please don't post things as "facts" if you don't actually understand the FACTS!!! Idiot!
When you have actually studied about meteorology and aviation for several years, come back and tell us how things REALLY are!
Fucking fool!
UninterestedNU 3 years ago
Right. Still can't tell me the atmospheric conditions required to form and maintain contrails, I see. Can't find the chart, either?
You're no meteorologist.
I saw your site. You're just anoter conspiracy theory whakjob that knows NOTHING about science.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
great research....
when a vid like this gets jumped so rabidly by the debunkers, it's a sure sign you've hit a nerve.
5/5
DontSprayMeBro 3 years ago
I have some more International Cloud Classification books coming. International is a real word, so the words inside should mean something. I show numerous classification theories from 1938 and earlier. So, 1939,-to 1944 is a date. and i want to see a photo of anything remotely like these from a gas engine. even a 2 stroke! "Memphis Belle 1944" video is a contrail and not close to this pic.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
There are MANY photos from WW2 showing all kinds of contrails. All it takes is a little research.
I have MANY photos from ALL THROUGH WW2, in MANY books, showing contrails from single engine fighters.
I know you're not familiar with aviation engines. Go to your local airport. Talk with some pilots and technicians. If they don't start laughing their asses off, they'll be glad to explain things to you, one on one. Depending where you are, I could probably even help you connect with someone.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
Google up "Top cover for J group" and go to images. This photo was taken on 27 Sept 1943 during a mission to Emden, Germany. The photograph was taken by S/Sgt. Stanley M. Smith, a waist gunner on A/C #30783, The Stork Club of the 570th Squadron of the 390th Bombardment Group (H), Eighth Air Force, piloted by Lt. Keith E. Harris. The aircraft centered in the picture is B-17F A/C #23329, named Skippy.
There are MANY examples like this throughout the war.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
Better tighten up your tinfoil hat, Mary, before the chemrain starts falling on your evidently misshapen head.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
a misshapen size 8 mens, thank you!
DontSprayMeBro 3 years ago
DontSprayMeBro,
Exactly, chemtrail debunkers always use language that tries to make them sound like experts and they are rabid dogs with no human compassion. They are scum.
EnergySupply2008 1 year ago
Air travel is predicted to triple by 2040.
I can state with certainty that there is nothing nefarious going on, regarding contrails. However, contrails do, at times, become to pervasive that we switch from VFR to IFR due to limited visibility. There is research being conducted to ascertain the impact of more contrails, upon the planet's climatology. The results are not in, yet, but I'd bet money that we'll be working to reduce contrail formation at some point.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
some thing is wrong how was there so much
jet traffic in the sky in 1945 ? I have seen photos
of B17 contrails and the don't look like that
lelandshane 3 years ago
THose aren't jets. THey're single engine fighters, flying above the bombers.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY IT, but you dont have an option when it comes to breathing this shit.
and why try to preach to others if you dont believe in it, such strong actions by you suggest really that you know full well the millions of people are not wrong.
why do many `jet airliners `make synchronised crosses via near collisions.
why so many mysterious aircraft crashes recently.why subs crashing.why satellites crashing. why are satellite images being doctored? why`s the atmospheric pressure so low?
spaceportseven 3 years ago
you must have posted this to someone else like TSF? I think something is up. with no "contrail" class prior to 1938 that narrows the search to post 1939. I want to see a gas engine make a 100 mile long contrail that last all day. then i want an explanation for what all these jets are doing. it represents a lot of energy and contrails is too simple an explanation
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
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DouggMacKenzie 3 years ago
Here's your answer to when contrails were first documented: "The earliest report of both a persistent spreading contrail, with gaps, and a distrail comes very shortly after, in 1921, in the US. Air Service Newsletter.
An altitude flight was made in the morning at McCook Field recently by Lieut. J. A. Macready in a La Pere with supercharged Liberty [engine]. When the airplane reached a height of 26,000-27,000 feet at 11:50 a.m....
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
...a long feathery white streamer was observed forming behind a rapidly moving dark speck. The cloud was of the cirrus variety, well defined at the edges and apparently 10 to 15 times the width of the plane. The sky behind the first portion was clear blue with no clouds in the near neighborhood. The first streamer seemed perhaps 2 miles long. Then a gap of one-quarter mile....
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
Pictures would be nice...
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
I aagree. But, considering the SLR camera didn't come into widespread use until the beginning of WW2, it's not surprising.
There is, however, a lot of footage from early WW2, in Britain, and much more with the 8th AF, during the strategic daylight bombing of Europe.
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
Look. I'm not making anything up. I cite my sources.
Answer me this: Why would any gov't want to kill it's own populace? THat's it's source of funding?
And how does any gov't, let alone the number in question here, keep a secret like this from every pilot, technician, designer, engineer, tool maker, parts manufacturer and maintenance technician? Or, is the postulate that ALL those people are somehow in on it?
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
One of your previous posters tried to shake laws in my face. I showed him exactly where in the law that it prohibits what you purport to be true.
What, EXACTLY do you want as proof that this is hooey?
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago
tsf - he should stick to being a mormon.
i keep track of temperatures and aircraft movements. pronounced drops in temp can be observed simultaneously to some of the aircraft flying overhead, upto 2`c falls in a couple of minutes without wind or any obvious met changes. this is like you one huge amount of ambient energy going somewhere ?!!
spaceportseven 3 years ago
could i find the book with the 1944 hampshire `con` (its a con alright) trails i the library. im a meteorologist and am interseted in finding the title of this un-named reference material you use at the start of the vid, the one after the `clouds` book which is obviously shown as a book but really serves no purpose apart from making the viewer subliminally assume that the next clip is also a book, which i doubt.
please send me the reference and ill check out its legitimacy on the net.
spaceportseven 3 years ago
Oh, TRUTH-thing poster, despite I thank the OP whom I subbed yesterday, for removing your comment, I'll say, just cause you are a pro in aviation, it doesn't mean that you know eveything that goes on.
Oh, my creds:
-Video playlists, seek and you will find, me no time!
-GOOGLE IT
-10 Downing Street, London,GB, ask Mr Brown.
-Your MP knows too.
-Environment agencies
You will be surprised at what you find. And I garantee you you will find answers, and COMPARE them.
LaPieinsky 3 years ago
some of these truthlings are as bad as the 911/WTC shills.
IExposeMormonism 3 years ago
Hate to tell you, but the people who are into the 9/11 conspiracies...are the same ones, by and large, who buy this chemtrail nonsense.
Don't believe me? Go look at a bunch of sites that these chemtrailers have. THey all believe in all these silly conspiracy theories.
Well, gotta go. We're flying, today. Gonna be making chemtrails, oops, I meant CONTRAILS all afternoon.
All the best....
Truthseekerfinder 3 years ago