@somotastic21 I hate to be pedantic (i tell i lie, I love being pedantic) but, we are parts of and products of the complex system we refer to as nature; to state that we are god but nature is not is self-contradictory, we are not apart from nature, it is not a thing that exists separate from us in isolation. Or, to put it in a more enigmatically zen fashion: no nature, no man, no god.
@thmaist Nature is just the physical world. I believe man has a spiritual component to him that will ultimately transcend this world as well as time and space. No religious book, no human government or law either man-made or natural can overcome the consciousness of humanity
@somotastic21 Fair enough, believe whatever makes you happy. Just be aware that insistence upon essentially meaningless differentiation and attachment to semantic knavery is generally a sign that you're not getting 'it'. I'd prescribe a healthy dose of wittgenstein and a zen stick to the head.
A guru is one who is regarded as having great knowledge,wisdom, and authority in a certain area, and who uses it to guide others...
When I listen to all the self help gurus today making millions from the wisdom they offer ..i think back .back when they were young they drank from a stream which was flowing from one man~~ A.Watts
I love Alan Watts. I think his son Mark has a YouTube page for him. He also just finished a movie about Alan which should be on PBS soon & available on his website. Listening to Alan's lectures is one of the great intellectual & spiritual things in my life. The man was amazing. Great video too.
And Charlie bit my finger is the most watched video ever.... But that's just the way it is! It is how the big bang turned out to be - same with Justin Bieber haha He will never get on your nerves if you realize this...
People are intolerable and people, including me, always manage to find someone to view as contemptible or inferior. I hate my nature, I hate what I've become in this society. I hate the world is this way. I am an idealist, I know, but I just wish societies didn't even exist. They've torn down the natural human, killed it, burned it. For God's sake, in society, everyone's just a fucking copy because we aren't real anymore.
So many people are so fucking conceited and believe that they're different and superior and better and all that... And it's when I realize that that I hate humanity even more because people are never going to change. It's because others are not going to change and are not going to realize we're all ONE, that I find it hard to waste energy on being loving to everyone.
@heyfkldsm Do beliefs that other people hold matter that much to you? If they do, are you sure that its necessary to evaluate those beliefs as you do? I don't see how your increased hate of humanity is beneficial to you or anyone else. Just relax
@heyfkldsm I'm not too fond of humanity myself, but I also perceive human life as I do the natural world, as an extension of the universe. The universe does not take sides, it simply is. Humanity is "evil" or "unjust" only in relation to other humans. Even human conflict is a natural process of life, death, and renewal. This is a cycle that will never end. Not to mention the world would be terribly boring if everyone walked around giving hugs and kisses all day. lol
@Lamentfordeath True. Do you believe in rebirth? That also means people are born victims....life is hell for some most definitely...Some are born to be predators others born to be their prey...no one asked for it but there it is...how can you say, then, life is a gift? Life is utter hell for some...
@utube3215 It really depends on how one defines "victim," because we are all victims of our own nature. Regardless of our circumstances, it is natural for us to feel victimized by some one or some thing, especially if life is not going as smoothly as we want it to. On the extreme end we have victims of War and terror, famine, pestilence and all that stuff we label as destructive. On the individual level it appears hellish, but the paradox is that such things must exist to balance out opposites.
@utube3215 I don't believe in determinism, if that's what you are referring to. Life is what you make it, to an extent. One can make an educated guess on outcomes in an individuals life based on regularities of environmental influence, but even that is at the mercy of randomness.
@Lamentfordeath That is true. Someone's famine is only recognized as "famine" when compared to a rich man's large meal. Good and bad are not very clear, anyways and they're not clear because the human mind constructed those ideologies. Alan Watts speaks about how the human mind is not very advanced and efficient at taking in the whole world as it is. That's why we label big ideas into a single idea: because it makes it easier on us.
The Laws of Nature do not dictate greed. Greed, you see, is only characteristic of humans. Why do you think? People only need so much. We can survive on much less than we have, and I'm talking about me and you and everyone else. But the thing is, we don't. We are a consumer world and we're this way for one reason: we depend on these "things" to give us a sense of self. We identify too much with our materials. But we don't really need these things at all. Our true selves are beyond these objects!
@heyfkldsm I've done the whole losing your ego practice. When you get good at it you just become a blank, emotionless zombie and its hard to function like that and people will also look at you strangely. I don't see how you can be "enlightened" and happy in this type of structured environment. If you went for the lesser things in life, like food and what not, you'd die of painful cancer and other diseases and you'd really just make yourself suffer more than you would had you got a good job.
@utube3215 I'm not talking about starving yourself completely of all material things. After all, food is a necessity but when food becomes a desire, it can quickly become gluttony, which is greed. And we really have no need for greed... What's the point of greed? People that are greedy are just very insecure people that need things to identify with. They have a weak idea of their sense of self and they construct a "self" with things. That's the origin of greed.
“Greed may not be good, but it’s not so bad either. You humans think greed is just for money or power, but everyone wants something they can’t have.” - Greed (FMA)
@utube3215 I don't claim to have thought this up on my own. I only started to view materialism as a problem with identification when I started reading "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle.
@utube3215 ". When you get good at it you just become a blank, emotionless zombie" I think you kind of missed the point. If you became an emotionless zombie then you were trying to detach yourself from your humanity, not overcome your attachments.
Whatever, man, so we're all fucking connected... and? Like anyone fucking cares. Most people don't even believe that and we're all segregated because we've all chosen to be that way. So many people including myself have a deeply ingrained belief that we're different and yes, I've known that that's wrong and have realized it before but even though I know it, I can't apply it to life, I can't love every one. All I can feel is criticism because I'm really not a fan of people in general.
@Lamentfordeath me and the chicken sandwich i am currently devouring are connected - but i doubt the chicken took much consolation in that fact when its head was being chopped off.
@scuzzulus HAHAHAH I agree completely! This stuff makes life seem all wonderful and mysterious...let go fo astonishment...life can really SUCKKK. Forget all this mumbo jumbo. Does it really matter seconds before your head gets severed?
@heyfkldsm Love is fake. Some people's brains don't have the capacity to feel love. I saw it on history channel. Love is your subconscious mind flooding your brain with feel good chemicals when it sees someone it wants you to procreate with to pass on genes..that's the meaning of life...passing on flawed, human genes and survival. Love is primitive, I feel. Your subconscious mind has more control over your life than you know...
@utube3215 I liked your comments, but I don't get how love is fake? Basically you are stating that love is not a magical and it has physical/chemical basis and that it is primitive? I agree with all of that, however there is nothing wrong with those things. And I have to disagree with your definition on the meaning of life. To me there isn't any given meaning. Only thing I can think that the meaning of life could be is the life itself. Reproduction is the means carry on the patterns of life.
Now mankind is looking for food, not just on this planet but on others. Perhaps the time has now come to put that process into reverse. Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population, perhaps it's time we control the population to allow the survival of the environment."
"Three and a half million years separate the individual who left these footprints in the sands of Africa from the one who left them on the moon. A mere blink in the eye of evolution. Using his burgeoning intelligence, this most successful of all mammals has exploited the environment to produce food for an ever-increasing population. In spite of disasters when civilisations have over-reached themselves, that process has continued, indeed accelerated, even today...
@SuperALguitar Why I get far into the bush as I can, things just feel right there, and when bad things happen it also feels right..as David Attenborough says....
I was introduced to Alan Watts by this video about a year ago. I now have read many of his books and listened to a countless amount of his lectures. What a journey.
This isn't evenauto-tune you simple-minded generalizing individual who takes things for their mere details FOR NO REASON. It's pitch adjustment. There's a difference. One requires actual effort.
@BlockisticStudios regardless, the program converts talk into song. Most people know it as auto-tone, which generally does the same thing as I described in my previous sentence.
Alan said, "He does not think science is all bad, like all things can be used for bad by bad people."
Alan also said, "His mystic act was just that, a Persona, a mask, and he liked to play that one act because it made him a living."
Alan Watts was consistent. You have to admire that. And he was very well read. I love how he informs us in a 'cool' way that we are all hiding behind our masks in light that we are all really gods.
People mite not beleve me. but i have never really had anything even as a boy that was just mine. when i turned 16 i worked till i was 22 and I still dont own anything only a cheap £400 car which dosent really work. i live with a woman but its not my address. Things dont mean much to me I dont have any freinds and my family i think mite have forgot me. I feel lost most of the time and nothing i do feels rite. Alan watts voice is a strange comfort but I am not to clever so dont really get it. ?
Remixes like this bypass almost every type of copyright because it's an original work. Copyright laws generally are in place to ensure that intellectual property (music, ideas for an invention, etc.) doesn't get "stolen".
Copyrighted intellectual property itself can be used as long as it falls under "Fair Use"; meaning as long as you don't make any profit from it, you should in theory, be safe.
I love your work but am not sure how you can get around the copyright issue, for sure there is an ethical violation here that in tern may diminish the artistic integrity the more one looks at your work, but still a good concept
@Neueregel You believe that the most brilliant and visionary philosopher of the 20th century is a "deluded monkey incapable of doing real science"? Please cite your evidence, define "real science" and list your books, university lectures, radio broadcasts and professional credentials so everyone can partake of your wisdom. God forbid that a "real scientist" such as you would take a dump unseen, to waste your sweetness on the desert air.
such great teachers of ancient wisdom are looked down upon and ridiculed with irreverent name callings... it is considered 'cool' to worship science these days...
@Neueregel I think you have it wrong. To give an example, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, a world renowned astrophysicist, made a few speeches that, to my mind, show a deep relationship between Zen and Science. Here is a few videos of him -> watch?v=6RjW5-4IiSc and watch?v=Re66MWWl8q8
@Tommynobiber At least Neil is a scientist and knows what he is talking about in his sermon. Here Alan dictates the "nature" equals us, in a silly New-Age way. It's 3rd Millenium already, I am tired of that New-Age dualistic garbage. The "I"/Personaliity consists 100% of the particles inside our bodies that make up Cells etc. Our personality is 100% the outcome of our ~3-pounds brain=Neural Networks. Any Woods, Forests, Lakes, Rocks, Concrete, Glass etc, have nothing to do with our brain matter
@Neueregel I see you are greatly influenced by science. I'm assuming this includes psychology? If so, you may find the works of Carl Jung interesting. I do believe you misunderstood what Watts is saying. I would not call it new age thinking. Perhaps Watts, and Jung, influenced it a little, but that is something different.
@Tommynobiber Psychology is a social science dealing with Humans. I am mostly influenced by Natural Science. I totally disagree with Carl Jung and I found his "Archetype" concept a bit childish. Plus he was a Theist, despite all major psychologists being atheists (Froyd, Adler, Pavlov etc) For me the only good thing about Jung is his Personality Assessment Test that divides people into 16 categories (ENFP) I'd rather read Froyd anytime, rather than Jung who was the pre-cursor for every New-ager
@Neueregel I'm not really sure where we are going with this anymore. Scientific or not, Watts is simply giving a perspective shared by Buddhists and Taoists. I don't see how New Age and Buddhism are remotely the same. However, no matter how you look at it, I do see much similarity between Tyson's speech and this one video of Watts.
@Neueregel .. in the modern days children have been brought up to solely depend on the left brain thinking that is is why it is hard for you grasp the profound meaning behind it.... your comment shows that you are very ignorant of Alan watts and you lack profound reasoning.... He has nothing to do with new age crap!
@TheUndertakerSaysRIP I don't want to grasp any New-Age and Hippie Oriental mumbo jumbo. I have a mental self-defence against all this kind of simpletonic crap. Watts is just another deluded monkey incapable of doing real science. A simpleton thinker, if you ask me.
@Neueregel Science is philosophy. This is Philosophy. Over 95% of the cosmos is composed of Dark energy and matter. As a scientist, I have to admit that I don't understand over 95% of the Known universe. And I stress the word Known.
@Neueregel science has become the modern day religion.. you take science as an authority for seeking truth. Science is based on the five senses of humans and by saying we humans can know everything for certain by science is a superficial thinking. really a fallacy of human superiority complex; we humans are not the be all and end all of this infinite universe.. there are infinite possibilities to consider
A. Watts helped me to take myself less seriously. His message is so clear and sane, that I feel more in tune with myself, after hearing his entertaining views. With youtube his voice reaches more people, than it had the opportunity to reach before the Internet. That makes me smile. To those who question his sincerity, I tell: I know he was a drunk, and a womanizer even. But that doesn't take away from the message, it only shows he was a human too, that's OK, and don't take this too seriously ;)
Breathe not for life, as life does not live just to breathe to live, but to make the air, to use the air and to replenish the air once more.
Do not account life as separate due to the perspective of where you are this day. Sitting on the continuum as a user of the air, but rather as an integral part of this mechanism, most basic and fundamental.
@flixization i think theres a bit more of that particular bit of oratory that we didn't hear in this video. not that i've seen it, i just guess there probably is :)
The big elephant in the room/the question, is that are we victims of the world, who have to muster their strength to face the gloom of death, or are we the process of the world and life itself? I guess it is the matter of perspective, but I tend to agree with the latter view. I view life after death to be a lot like life before birth. I will be the potential from which life arises if it chooses to do so. :)
"We are a way for the cosmos to know itself" - Carl Sagan
During the past years I have really seen the changing faces of my ego. I have come to see that my ego/the human part is just a part of a bigger process. I now see myself as a part of a whole and not as a separate thing. And the self that I thought was mine/my ego's isn't really, but instead it is something more universal. It really seems that we are the life itself playing the human part in the process of life. Being no one is to say to much. I prefer just Being not being this or being that. :)
"A donkey carrying a pile of holy books is still a donkey." This alcoholic egomaniac spouts second-hand information. His only personal spiritual experiences were likely the result of psychedelic drug use. My, how he likes to play the wise old sage. Pure theater, pure ego. The only problem I have with this worm buffet is that people could take him seriously.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Why so serious? Of course he had faults we all have. So what. Don't shoot the messenger. If he didn't show any human faults then I would be more worried about his sincerity. ;)
@Piitsi There are people who need real help and could easily fall for some smooth-talking, authoritative-sounding fraud like Watts. Buddhism teaches that the worst hells are reserved for false teachers who purposely mislead people for money, fame, ego, etc. I'm inclined to agree. I find Watts and others like him thoroughly reprehensible. As far as I know, he never mentioned his faults; he just rambled on about lofty spiritual concepts as though he had first-hand knowledge of them.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL He introduced eastern thought to many westerners, he referred himself as "a philosophical entertainer". He didn't teach Zen correctly, according to many Zen Buddhist who opposed his view points. But who does, and what is the correct way? Yes it's evident that he was a drunk and a womanizer, but that only shows that he was a human like the rest of us not a saint. It's good to question authorities that I absolutely agree, but I disagree that only "saints" are worth listening to. :)
I never heard that he was a drunk and a womanizer. I am not appalled, but surprised I guess. I still like him and enjoyed a couple of his books many years ago. I've recently been recovering from a nasty car accident in a rehab facility and have enjoyed going to sleep listening to his teachings. Good stuff. Thanks.
@JarethGT I think we agree. Message should be valuated by it's content not by the messenger. But I'm not overly concerned about ultimate truths. Because "there's nature and She is going to come out the way She is" -Richard Feynman. And if we are fortunate to discover truths about Nature and what is around us then - good. And if not, then we can see that by living in nature we already live in truth, even if it isn't apparent in our human experience. In a way it's achieved for us already.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL I agree with what the other repliers have said, but I do respect your critical analysis of him, because I'm not a brainless zombie. I believe he embraced the ego and more importantly embraced himself, because there is only one life that we know of for sure. A donkey that knows it's a donkey and chooses to carry books is an amazing donkey if you ask me.
@NorseRonin A donkey that uses holy books to deceive others is an ass indeed. I used to listen to Watts many years ago until he revealed his ignorance. This video came up as a recommendation and I was shocked to see that people are still listening this twit, when there are many real teachers on here who are excellent. If you want more than concepts, Watts is a complete waste of time. Then again, I bought into this slick con artist's act myself for a while.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL What else could we be looking for other than concepts? If someone is interested, they will want to learn, and they'll need to know the concepts. Besides, what business do you have here, if you hate him now? Surely it's not to "protect" us from someone you no longer have any faith in - why should our actions matter to you?
@SSXtrikE The correct concepts can be helpful, but his concepts are fundamentally wrong (according to many Zen Masters). My business is to prevent any sincere practitioner - who wishes to experience liberation, not just understand the concepts - from mistaking his ramblings for authentic teachings. They should listen to someone who *knows* what he's talking about - not a "philosophical entertainer" (his words) who sounds oh-so-very-wise but has zero first-hand knowledge of what he speaks about.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL The best teachers aren't the ones who program their students; they're the ones that tell them to think for themselves. Alan himself said "I'm not trying to convert anyone to Zen Buddhism". The point was to say what he had to say and let the viewer decide what to think about it. If they take it seriously, then good for them.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Can you give me some examples of how he is such an ass? I think he was just a guy with an ego like the rest of us, and I see no problem with him selling books with an interesting view point for westerners, and he knew his own faults. In what way did he deceive anyone?
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Others can listen to Allan Watts & gain insight or awareness by pondering these ideas. If, because of your ego, YOU cannot listen to someone speak without making generalizations, associating a few details with the bigger picture, polarizing concepts to either extremity, or if you simply cannot accept some kind of insight into the nature of reality coming from a verbalized, human source, then it is YOU who bears the inadequacy.
@DevonWhorton Oh, ME who bears the inadequacy - thanks for pointing that out, along with your "making generalizations, associating a few details with the bigger picture, polarizing concepts..." idea. That's just... very helpful and accurate in some reality. Do you mind if I use "verbalized, human source" as an alternative to "person" like YOU do? It might impress the ladies. Seriously, pal, using big words to hide stupidity only works on the truly idiotic. If YOU like Watts, stop wasting space.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Don't get stuck staring at the finger pointing to the moon. The message is what matters, not the messenger. Who Alan Watts is or was doesn't matter! It doesn't matter that he's not even saying anything new (Who is these days?). It just doesn't matter. Look around you; how many alcoholic ego maniacs are spouting second-hand information from a pulpit every Sunday? How many of them are sincere and how many are only trying to make a buck off the ignorant?
@8Ho03EdONl1liL What the does his consumption of alchohol have to do with anything? Does that make any of his ideas wrong? If a baby rapist argues that if you drop a ball, it will fall to the ground because of gravity, does the fact that he is insane make his point invalid?
@DemonHermit Well written. His alcoholism is just one of his many red flags. He admits to being an entertainer, but I've never heard it. All I've heard is the wise old Zen Master act with no disclaimers that it was an act. He regurgitates the teachings of others quite nicely most of the time, but the problem is he is downright WRONG on many occasions, and unless you know enough, these errors can go undetected, misleading those seek real teachings. :D Is one considered insane if he rapes babies?
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Well I along with many others have enjoyed his ideas and philosophies. In my opinion he was a good speaker and I believe he had a passion for his work.
Daoism, Buddhism, etc are just traditions that have similar core teachings, much of which has to do with the realization of the self. Alan Watts had his own point of view, and if his work inspires and helps people understand themselves, then I could care less what he drank or where he put his penis.
It's established that you are not a fan of A.Watts anymore, which is fine but please stop trying to save us all from our own ignorance, I can take the negative things said here about A.W and still see that there is much to learn from him, I also like to listen to Krishnamurti who was not a Zen Master or anything like it, if Zen Masters do denigrate A.W then I think it is their Ego's that are doing so which kinda makes them, well, Not Masters IMHO. Who knows enough BTW ?
@phillintheuk1 I just hope no one else makes the same mistake I did. I'm sure 95% of what he says is true and if it helps, great, but those who are very serious about enlightenment would benefit more from Adyashanti, Jeff Foster, Mooji, Scott Kiloby, etc. (Only Adya is Zen. The others are Advaitists - same idea). The Zen Masters I spoke of are famous and as real as they get. They wouldn't speak ill of someone because of ego, but it's their duty to protect the Dharma so if asked, they must tell.
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Honestly, I'd consider reassessing the value of your masters if the result of your study is your behavior here. You didn't know that he mentions his faults because you didn't bother to look (he has an autobiography). You have strange attachment to presuming his intent. What was it that he conned you out of again? Also, did you find the true masters before or after your time with his work? Seems odd to me to detest the first rung of a ladder for not being higher than the second.
i liked it until the autotune
hamsteerio 51 minutes ago
nature is not God. We are God. Let humanity embrace itself and all the virtues of lust, envy, pride and hedonism
somotastic21 1 week ago
@somotastic21 I hate to be pedantic (i tell i lie, I love being pedantic) but, we are parts of and products of the complex system we refer to as nature; to state that we are god but nature is not is self-contradictory, we are not apart from nature, it is not a thing that exists separate from us in isolation. Or, to put it in a more enigmatically zen fashion: no nature, no man, no god.
thmaist 4 days ago
@thmaist Nature is just the physical world. I believe man has a spiritual component to him that will ultimately transcend this world as well as time and space. No religious book, no human government or law either man-made or natural can overcome the consciousness of humanity
somotastic21 3 days ago
@somotastic21 Fair enough, believe whatever makes you happy. Just be aware that insistence upon essentially meaningless differentiation and attachment to semantic knavery is generally a sign that you're not getting 'it'. I'd prescribe a healthy dose of wittgenstein and a zen stick to the head.
thmaist 3 days ago
Very well done. Music compliments the editing of visual and vocal. Thanks
kweju3 2 weeks ago
97% of people dont know whats hes talking about. :[
frankieicheban 2 weeks ago
@frankieicheban Yes but at the same time 100% of people have the potential to feel what he's talking about.
MrSpliffjones 2 weeks ago 3
@MrSpliffjones :} <3 niiiice!
frankieicheban 2 weeks ago
I miss Dr. Watts....
MrPickinbuddy 2 weeks ago 2
The more I listen to Alan Watts, the more I relate to him.
integralmike 3 weeks ago 2
This is my fav melodysheep tune.
ZarwidThwic 3 weeks ago
masaai folks at 1:14?
soundbeans 4 weeks ago
Que Sera, Sera...
ginnyboot 4 weeks ago
ive been just replaying this over and over again. can you make an extended play remix of this? i love it so much.
ekzakkly1 1 month ago
A guru is one who is regarded as having great knowledge,wisdom, and authority in a certain area, and who uses it to guide others...
When I listen to all the self help gurus today making millions from the wisdom they offer ..i think back .back when they were young they drank from a stream which was flowing from one man~~ A.Watts
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Calun3 1 month ago
Profound! I will now leave the Internet and seek the dao
PaintSlinger99 1 month ago 2
@PaintSlinger99 :D
KaiTendo174 1 month ago
I love Alan Watts. I think his son Mark has a YouTube page for him. He also just finished a movie about Alan which should be on PBS soon & available on his website. Listening to Alan's lectures is one of the great intellectual & spiritual things in my life. The man was amazing. Great video too.
somegamer1879 1 month ago 3
I freaking love this! Absoute brilliance within brilliance! Keep it up...
effector22 1 month ago
This video has such an effect on me, I cannot believe it. Great stuff! Alan Watts was one of a kind.
jeffreydebra1 1 month ago
i want that epic beard
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gave me goosebumps..
benny7690 1 month ago
Phenomenal!!!!!
manandaviewing 2 months ago
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Regemiteable 2 months ago 16
Bitches can't bust my Zen. Only I can bust my Zen.
NorthForkFisherman 2 months ago
I know..
luckytom13 2 months ago
And Charlie bit my finger is the most watched video ever.... But that's just the way it is! It is how the big bang turned out to be - same with Justin Bieber haha He will never get on your nerves if you realize this...
silvastomp 2 months ago
Love this
tabbyl95 2 months ago
OMG ................. this is amazing
freedomfromthemind 2 months ago
If more people were aware of this, there wouldn't be as much conflict. Greed causes conflict...
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
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People are intolerable and people, including me, always manage to find someone to view as contemptible or inferior. I hate my nature, I hate what I've become in this society. I hate the world is this way. I am an idealist, I know, but I just wish societies didn't even exist. They've torn down the natural human, killed it, burned it. For God's sake, in society, everyone's just a fucking copy because we aren't real anymore.
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
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heyfkldsm 3 months ago
So many people are so fucking conceited and believe that they're different and superior and better and all that... And it's when I realize that that I hate humanity even more because people are never going to change. It's because others are not going to change and are not going to realize we're all ONE, that I find it hard to waste energy on being loving to everyone.
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
@heyfkldsm Do beliefs that other people hold matter that much to you? If they do, are you sure that its necessary to evaluate those beliefs as you do? I don't see how your increased hate of humanity is beneficial to you or anyone else. Just relax
StormFlip 3 months ago
@heyfkldsm I'm not too fond of humanity myself, but I also perceive human life as I do the natural world, as an extension of the universe. The universe does not take sides, it simply is. Humanity is "evil" or "unjust" only in relation to other humans. Even human conflict is a natural process of life, death, and renewal. This is a cycle that will never end. Not to mention the world would be terribly boring if everyone walked around giving hugs and kisses all day. lol
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@Lamentfordeath True. Do you believe in rebirth? That also means people are born victims....life is hell for some most definitely...Some are born to be predators others born to be their prey...no one asked for it but there it is...how can you say, then, life is a gift? Life is utter hell for some...
utube3215 3 months ago
@utube3215 It really depends on how one defines "victim," because we are all victims of our own nature. Regardless of our circumstances, it is natural for us to feel victimized by some one or some thing, especially if life is not going as smoothly as we want it to. On the extreme end we have victims of War and terror, famine, pestilence and all that stuff we label as destructive. On the individual level it appears hellish, but the paradox is that such things must exist to balance out opposites.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@utube3215 I don't believe in determinism, if that's what you are referring to. Life is what you make it, to an extent. One can make an educated guess on outcomes in an individuals life based on regularities of environmental influence, but even that is at the mercy of randomness.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@utube3215 Sorry, I meant to say I don't believe in Pre-Determinism.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@Lamentfordeath That is true. Someone's famine is only recognized as "famine" when compared to a rich man's large meal. Good and bad are not very clear, anyways and they're not clear because the human mind constructed those ideologies. Alan Watts speaks about how the human mind is not very advanced and efficient at taking in the whole world as it is. That's why we label big ideas into a single idea: because it makes it easier on us.
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
@heyfkldsm World peace and equality are illusions my friend...they're never happening...it's not the laws of nature...sucks but that's what it is...
utube3215 3 months ago
The Laws of Nature do not dictate greed. Greed, you see, is only characteristic of humans. Why do you think? People only need so much. We can survive on much less than we have, and I'm talking about me and you and everyone else. But the thing is, we don't. We are a consumer world and we're this way for one reason: we depend on these "things" to give us a sense of self. We identify too much with our materials. But we don't really need these things at all. Our true selves are beyond these objects!
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
@heyfkldsm I've done the whole losing your ego practice. When you get good at it you just become a blank, emotionless zombie and its hard to function like that and people will also look at you strangely. I don't see how you can be "enlightened" and happy in this type of structured environment. If you went for the lesser things in life, like food and what not, you'd die of painful cancer and other diseases and you'd really just make yourself suffer more than you would had you got a good job.
utube3215 3 months ago
@utube3215 I'm not talking about starving yourself completely of all material things. After all, food is a necessity but when food becomes a desire, it can quickly become gluttony, which is greed. And we really have no need for greed... What's the point of greed? People that are greedy are just very insecure people that need things to identify with. They have a weak idea of their sense of self and they construct a "self" with things. That's the origin of greed.
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
@heyfkldsm
“Greed may not be good, but it’s not so bad either. You humans think greed is just for money or power, but everyone wants something they can’t have.” - Greed (FMA)
Callirgos1 2 months ago
@utube3215 I don't claim to have thought this up on my own. I only started to view materialism as a problem with identification when I started reading "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle.
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
@utube3215 ". When you get good at it you just become a blank, emotionless zombie" I think you kind of missed the point. If you became an emotionless zombie then you were trying to detach yourself from your humanity, not overcome your attachments.
JarethGT 1 month ago
Whatever, man, so we're all fucking connected... and? Like anyone fucking cares. Most people don't even believe that and we're all segregated because we've all chosen to be that way. So many people including myself have a deeply ingrained belief that we're different and yes, I've known that that's wrong and have realized it before but even though I know it, I can't apply it to life, I can't love every one. All I can feel is criticism because I'm really not a fan of people in general.
heyfkldsm 3 months ago
@heyfkldsm lol - the antelope and the lion are connected - that doesn`t stop the lion from ripping the antelope`s head off and eating its brains.
scuzzulus 3 months ago
@scuzzulus Precisely. All things are connected through a process of energy conversion. Life devours life and so forth.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@Lamentfordeath me and the chicken sandwich i am currently devouring are connected - but i doubt the chicken took much consolation in that fact when its head was being chopped off.
scuzzulus 3 months ago
@scuzzulus HAHAHAH I agree completely! This stuff makes life seem all wonderful and mysterious...let go fo astonishment...life can really SUCKKK. Forget all this mumbo jumbo. Does it really matter seconds before your head gets severed?
utube3215 3 months ago
@utube3215 *of
utube3215 3 months ago
@utube3215 Depends on the individual.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
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@scuzzulus Exactly my point!
utube3215 3 months ago
@scuzzulus I agree!
utube3215 3 months ago
@heyfkldsm Love is fake. Some people's brains don't have the capacity to feel love. I saw it on history channel. Love is your subconscious mind flooding your brain with feel good chemicals when it sees someone it wants you to procreate with to pass on genes..that's the meaning of life...passing on flawed, human genes and survival. Love is primitive, I feel. Your subconscious mind has more control over your life than you know...
utube3215 3 months ago
@utube3215 I liked your comments, but I don't get how love is fake? Basically you are stating that love is not a magical and it has physical/chemical basis and that it is primitive? I agree with all of that, however there is nothing wrong with those things. And I have to disagree with your definition on the meaning of life. To me there isn't any given meaning. Only thing I can think that the meaning of life could be is the life itself. Reproduction is the means carry on the patterns of life.
Piitsi 1 month ago
Now mankind is looking for food, not just on this planet but on others. Perhaps the time has now come to put that process into reverse. Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population, perhaps it's time we control the population to allow the survival of the environment."
Usernamesarebunk420 3 months ago
"Three and a half million years separate the individual who left these footprints in the sands of Africa from the one who left them on the moon. A mere blink in the eye of evolution. Using his burgeoning intelligence, this most successful of all mammals has exploited the environment to produce food for an ever-increasing population. In spite of disasters when civilisations have over-reached themselves, that process has continued, indeed accelerated, even today...
Usernamesarebunk420 3 months ago
@SuperALguitar Why I get far into the bush as I can, things just feel right there, and when bad things happen it also feels right..as David Attenborough says....
Usernamesarebunk420 3 months ago
I was introduced to Alan Watts by this video about a year ago. I now have read many of his books and listened to a countless amount of his lectures. What a journey.
Tengent 3 months ago
Thumbs up if you hate de auto-tune.
Holvem 3 months ago
@Holvem
This isn't evenauto-tune you simple-minded generalizing individual who takes things for their mere details FOR NO REASON. It's pitch adjustment. There's a difference. One requires actual effort.
BlockisticStudios 3 months ago
@BlockisticStudios I don't like their voices like they are singing, is ridiculous.
Holvem 3 months ago
@Holvem Oh no! Voices turn you away from this! Now I think that your trying to find a reason to dislike this...
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@ThePhantomZero0 ¿ you have some mental problem?
Holvem 3 months ago
@Holvem Its called auto-tune.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@BlockisticStudios regardless, the program converts talk into song. Most people know it as auto-tone, which generally does the same thing as I described in my previous sentence.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@Lamentfordeath
I don't really see the issue here.
BlockisticStudios 3 months ago
@BlockisticStudios And you call others simple minded?
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@Lamentfordeath
How else are you going to remix someone speaking? This wasn't originally a song.
BlockisticStudios 3 months ago
@BlockisticStudios Deja vu.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@Lamentfordeath
When did you tell me?
BlockisticStudios 3 months ago
@BlockisticStudios I was attempting to pacify your outrage at Holvem's ignorance. It was a slightly over-the- top reaction on your part, I think.
Lamentfordeath 3 months ago
@Lamentfordeath
I agree.
BlockisticStudios 3 months ago
Alan said, "He does not think science is all bad, like all things can be used for bad by bad people."
Alan also said, "His mystic act was just that, a Persona, a mask, and he liked to play that one act because it made him a living."
Alan Watts was consistent. You have to admire that. And he was very well read. I love how he informs us in a 'cool' way that we are all hiding behind our masks in light that we are all really gods.
freeadplanet 4 months ago
People mite not beleve me. but i have never really had anything even as a boy that was just mine. when i turned 16 i worked till i was 22 and I still dont own anything only a cheap £400 car which dosent really work. i live with a woman but its not my address. Things dont mean much to me I dont have any freinds and my family i think mite have forgot me. I feel lost most of the time and nothing i do feels rite. Alan watts voice is a strange comfort but I am not to clever so dont really get it. ?
SuperALguitar 4 months ago
@SuperALguitar Seems like things are going very well for you :)
fsuace2 3 months ago
I love that cane usage on: "It seems that the human being.... really has a very simple kind of mind".
comity419 4 months ago
this makes me want to grow a beard and live in the woods
Innovater6 4 months ago
That wizard beard is so awesome
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@Hangtime1221
Remixes like this bypass almost every type of copyright because it's an original work. Copyright laws generally are in place to ensure that intellectual property (music, ideas for an invention, etc.) doesn't get "stolen".
Copyrighted intellectual property itself can be used as long as it falls under "Fair Use"; meaning as long as you don't make any profit from it, you should in theory, be safe.
PeopleR2sensitive 4 months ago
I love your work but am not sure how you can get around the copyright issue, for sure there is an ethical violation here that in tern may diminish the artistic integrity the more one looks at your work, but still a good concept
Hangtime1221 4 months ago
this is really really fucking beautiful
devouredbythehorizon 4 months ago in playlist More videos from melodysheep 42
@devouredbythehorizon indeed :D
KaiTendo174 1 month ago
LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TRIPPED ON SOME ACID.
SilvahDot 4 months ago
I want this on my ipod- is it possible?
lemarteau63 5 months ago
@lemarteau63 Youtube downloaders
pkcrossing89 4 months ago
@lemarteau63 just throw youtube - mp3 in a google search buddy!
TheYella20 4 months ago
@TheYella20 Thank you very much- legal, do we care!
lemarteau63 4 months ago
@lemarteau63 whoops maybe i should of sent that in a private msg lol
TheYella20 4 months ago
"Everything in nature depends on everything else, so it's interconnected." ~ Alan Watts
Alan Watts was one awesome life force surfer. He really knew how to dive into the ocean deep, let go of fear, balance, and ride the wave.
eastariel 5 months ago
Jeremy Irons dad
MrCuntyballs2U 5 months ago
Genius....
jeffreydebra1 5 months ago
@Neueregel You believe that the most brilliant and visionary philosopher of the 20th century is a "deluded monkey incapable of doing real science"? Please cite your evidence, define "real science" and list your books, university lectures, radio broadcasts and professional credentials so everyone can partake of your wisdom. God forbid that a "real scientist" such as you would take a dump unseen, to waste your sweetness on the desert air.
asynkronos 5 months ago 2
Why does this not have 10 million views yet?
nekopheliac 5 months ago
Love this.
Murfin0086 5 months ago
I love this, another great video, and song, TY.
TheRedAnthem 5 months ago
the wise and fool are twin brothers...
its an old japanese or chinese saying, sorry i cant remember :)
LLew821 5 months ago
Philosophy sounds cooler when it's autotuned.
ElveeKaye 5 months ago 7
such great teachers of ancient wisdom are looked down upon and ridiculed with irreverent name callings... it is considered 'cool' to worship science these days...
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 5 months ago
You did such a great job with this video, probably the one that stands out most for me.
blackcrow6667 6 months ago
@Tabiababitha Autotune.
jwalidea 6 months ago
what a hippy
SilvahDot 6 months ago
Who is this Watts clown? Just another new age hippie punk I guess? No science at all here.
Neueregel 6 months ago
@Neueregel I think you have it wrong. To give an example, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, a world renowned astrophysicist, made a few speeches that, to my mind, show a deep relationship between Zen and Science. Here is a few videos of him -> watch?v=6RjW5-4IiSc and watch?v=Re66MWWl8q8
Tommynobiber 6 months ago 4
@Tommynobiber At least Neil is a scientist and knows what he is talking about in his sermon. Here Alan dictates the "nature" equals us, in a silly New-Age way. It's 3rd Millenium already, I am tired of that New-Age dualistic garbage. The "I"/Personaliity consists 100% of the particles inside our bodies that make up Cells etc. Our personality is 100% the outcome of our ~3-pounds brain=Neural Networks. Any Woods, Forests, Lakes, Rocks, Concrete, Glass etc, have nothing to do with our brain matter
Neueregel 6 months ago
@Neueregel I see you are greatly influenced by science. I'm assuming this includes psychology? If so, you may find the works of Carl Jung interesting. I do believe you misunderstood what Watts is saying. I would not call it new age thinking. Perhaps Watts, and Jung, influenced it a little, but that is something different.
Tommynobiber 6 months ago
@Tommynobiber Psychology is a social science dealing with Humans. I am mostly influenced by Natural Science. I totally disagree with Carl Jung and I found his "Archetype" concept a bit childish. Plus he was a Theist, despite all major psychologists being atheists (Froyd, Adler, Pavlov etc) For me the only good thing about Jung is his Personality Assessment Test that divides people into 16 categories (ENFP) I'd rather read Froyd anytime, rather than Jung who was the pre-cursor for every New-ager
Neueregel 6 months ago
@Neueregel I'm not really sure where we are going with this anymore. Scientific or not, Watts is simply giving a perspective shared by Buddhists and Taoists. I don't see how New Age and Buddhism are remotely the same. However, no matter how you look at it, I do see much similarity between Tyson's speech and this one video of Watts.
Tommynobiber 6 months ago 4
@Neueregel Whatever makes you happy.
Gluumer 6 months ago
@Neueregel .. in the modern days children have been brought up to solely depend on the left brain thinking that is is why it is hard for you grasp the profound meaning behind it.... your comment shows that you are very ignorant of Alan watts and you lack profound reasoning.... He has nothing to do with new age crap!
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 5 months ago
@TheUndertakerSaysRIP I don't want to grasp any New-Age and Hippie Oriental mumbo jumbo. I have a mental self-defence against all this kind of simpletonic crap. Watts is just another deluded monkey incapable of doing real science. A simpleton thinker, if you ask me.
Neueregel 5 months ago
@Neueregel LOL you are funny... I don't know why you would watch a video of him then...
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 5 months ago
@Neueregel
Who is this Neuregel clown ? just another science obsessed up his own arse PUNK, no class just ignorance here.
phillintheuk1 6 months ago
@Neueregel Science is philosophy. This is Philosophy. Over 95% of the cosmos is composed of Dark energy and matter. As a scientist, I have to admit that I don't understand over 95% of the Known universe. And I stress the word Known.
Vaultbuachaill 6 months ago 3
@Neueregel science has become the modern day religion.. you take science as an authority for seeking truth. Science is based on the five senses of humans and by saying we humans can know everything for certain by science is a superficial thinking. really a fallacy of human superiority complex; we humans are not the be all and end all of this infinite universe.. there are infinite possibilities to consider
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 5 months ago
minus one please!
Ilikebenwolf 6 months ago
A. Watts helped me to take myself less seriously. His message is so clear and sane, that I feel more in tune with myself, after hearing his entertaining views. With youtube his voice reaches more people, than it had the opportunity to reach before the Internet. That makes me smile. To those who question his sincerity, I tell: I know he was a drunk, and a womanizer even. But that doesn't take away from the message, it only shows he was a human too, that's OK, and don't take this too seriously ;)
Piitsi 7 months ago 17
This is just to awesome.
filowfulwaffle 7 months ago
great vid except the music reminds me of that charlie sheene winning video
dfcvda 7 months ago
@dfcvda This has been around much longer than that shit
jackp22 6 months ago
@jackp22 obviously, dont fucking troll me you idiot.
dfcvda 6 months ago
Breathe not for life, as life does not live just to breathe to live, but to make the air, to use the air and to replenish the air once more.
Do not account life as separate due to the perspective of where you are this day. Sitting on the continuum as a user of the air, but rather as an integral part of this mechanism, most basic and fundamental.
Lesserthannone 7 months ago
"We are a way, the cosmos, can know itself..."
yourCashCoach 7 months ago
Thank you!
pmowl68 7 months ago
Nature is wiggly, everything wiggles and all this wiggliness is too complicated.
ToxxinProductions 7 months ago
Mind.
Blown.
AphoticCosmos 7 months ago
It's absolutely necessary to do something that can't be done.
flixization 7 months ago
@flixization i think theres a bit more of that particular bit of oratory that we didn't hear in this video. not that i've seen it, i just guess there probably is :)
dogigniter 7 months ago
MELODY PUMP MORE SCIENTIFIC MIXES OUT MATE! LOVE THEM! thumbs this up to a bazzilion so he can see this and know his respected and loved :)
DjTommyKx 7 months ago
That was beautiful :)
Kjjoker1 7 months ago
THIS...... IS ...... FUCKING..... AWESOME...... SPINE TINGLING STUFF.
FUCK RELIGION.
MOHAMED WAS A PEDOFILE.
JESUS WAS GAY.
soundbeans 7 months ago
@soundbeans keep your faith to yourseld; i'm an atheist too but being aggresive like that is wrong
GOSUPitZ 7 months ago
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The big elephant in the room/the question, is that are we victims of the world, who have to muster their strength to face the gloom of death, or are we the process of the world and life itself? I guess it is the matter of perspective, but I tend to agree with the latter view. I view life after death to be a lot like life before birth. I will be the potential from which life arises if it chooses to do so. :)
"We are a way for the cosmos to know itself" - Carl Sagan
Piitsi 7 months ago
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During the past years I have really seen the changing faces of my ego. I have come to see that my ego/the human part is just a part of a bigger process. I now see myself as a part of a whole and not as a separate thing. And the self that I thought was mine/my ego's isn't really, but instead it is something more universal. It really seems that we are the life itself playing the human part in the process of life. Being no one is to say to much. I prefer just Being not being this or being that. :)
Piitsi 7 months ago
we are i and everything
Z3r0XoL 7 months ago
"A donkey carrying a pile of holy books is still a donkey." This alcoholic egomaniac spouts second-hand information. His only personal spiritual experiences were likely the result of psychedelic drug use. My, how he likes to play the wise old sage. Pure theater, pure ego. The only problem I have with this worm buffet is that people could take him seriously.
8Ho03EdONl1liL 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Why so serious? Of course he had faults we all have. So what. Don't shoot the messenger. If he didn't show any human faults then I would be more worried about his sincerity. ;)
Piitsi 7 months ago 5
@Piitsi There are people who need real help and could easily fall for some smooth-talking, authoritative-sounding fraud like Watts. Buddhism teaches that the worst hells are reserved for false teachers who purposely mislead people for money, fame, ego, etc. I'm inclined to agree. I find Watts and others like him thoroughly reprehensible. As far as I know, he never mentioned his faults; he just rambled on about lofty spiritual concepts as though he had first-hand knowledge of them.
8Ho03EdONl1liL 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL When you look out of your eyes, at the trolls on Youtube... Thats the REAL you.
Bladmapples 7 months ago 5
@8Ho03EdONl1liL He introduced eastern thought to many westerners, he referred himself as "a philosophical entertainer". He didn't teach Zen correctly, according to many Zen Buddhist who opposed his view points. But who does, and what is the correct way? Yes it's evident that he was a drunk and a womanizer, but that only shows that he was a human like the rest of us not a saint. It's good to question authorities that I absolutely agree, but I disagree that only "saints" are worth listening to. :)
Piitsi 7 months ago 48
@Piitsi a "spiritual entertainer" ;)
SincereCreature 5 months ago
@Piitsi Well said, friend.
Fetusmilkshake 5 months ago in playlist Symphony of Science
@Piitsi Exactly, that he was a drunkard and womanizer and, at the same time, was so wise and liberated, only points to his awesomeness.
rodrigojoseunb 4 months ago
I never heard that he was a drunk and a womanizer. I am not appalled, but surprised I guess. I still like him and enjoyed a couple of his books many years ago. I've recently been recovering from a nasty car accident in a rehab facility and have enjoyed going to sleep listening to his teachings. Good stuff. Thanks.
jvd2468 4 months ago
@Piitsi you changed my perspective on alan's alcohol problems. thank you for opening my mind further. =]
runtubefantasy 4 months ago
@Piitsi Should we listen to authority and saints? Or listen to the truth when it confronts us?
JarethGT 3 months ago
@JarethGT I think we agree. Message should be valuated by it's content not by the messenger. But I'm not overly concerned about ultimate truths. Because "there's nature and She is going to come out the way She is" -Richard Feynman. And if we are fortunate to discover truths about Nature and what is around us then - good. And if not, then we can see that by living in nature we already live in truth, even if it isn't apparent in our human experience. In a way it's achieved for us already.
Piitsi 3 months ago 20
@Piitsi Yeah we already have it
KaiTendo174 1 month ago
@KaiTendo174 :)
Piitsi 1 month ago
@Piitsi c: :D
KaiTendo174 1 month ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL I agree with what the other repliers have said, but I do respect your critical analysis of him, because I'm not a brainless zombie. I believe he embraced the ego and more importantly embraced himself, because there is only one life that we know of for sure. A donkey that knows it's a donkey and chooses to carry books is an amazing donkey if you ask me.
NorseRonin 7 months ago
@NorseRonin A donkey that uses holy books to deceive others is an ass indeed. I used to listen to Watts many years ago until he revealed his ignorance. This video came up as a recommendation and I was shocked to see that people are still listening this twit, when there are many real teachers on here who are excellent. If you want more than concepts, Watts is a complete waste of time. Then again, I bought into this slick con artist's act myself for a while.
8Ho03EdONl1liL 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL What else could we be looking for other than concepts? If someone is interested, they will want to learn, and they'll need to know the concepts. Besides, what business do you have here, if you hate him now? Surely it's not to "protect" us from someone you no longer have any faith in - why should our actions matter to you?
SSXtrikE 7 months ago
@SSXtrikE The correct concepts can be helpful, but his concepts are fundamentally wrong (according to many Zen Masters). My business is to prevent any sincere practitioner - who wishes to experience liberation, not just understand the concepts - from mistaking his ramblings for authentic teachings. They should listen to someone who *knows* what he's talking about - not a "philosophical entertainer" (his words) who sounds oh-so-very-wise but has zero first-hand knowledge of what he speaks about.
8Ho03EdONl1liL 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL The best teachers aren't the ones who program their students; they're the ones that tell them to think for themselves. Alan himself said "I'm not trying to convert anyone to Zen Buddhism". The point was to say what he had to say and let the viewer decide what to think about it. If they take it seriously, then good for them.
SSXtrikE 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Can you give me some examples of how he is such an ass? I think he was just a guy with an ego like the rest of us, and I see no problem with him selling books with an interesting view point for westerners, and he knew his own faults. In what way did he deceive anyone?
NorseRonin 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Others can listen to Allan Watts & gain insight or awareness by pondering these ideas. If, because of your ego, YOU cannot listen to someone speak without making generalizations, associating a few details with the bigger picture, polarizing concepts to either extremity, or if you simply cannot accept some kind of insight into the nature of reality coming from a verbalized, human source, then it is YOU who bears the inadequacy.
DevonWhorton 6 months ago
@DevonWhorton Oh, ME who bears the inadequacy - thanks for pointing that out, along with your "making generalizations, associating a few details with the bigger picture, polarizing concepts..." idea. That's just... very helpful and accurate in some reality. Do you mind if I use "verbalized, human source" as an alternative to "person" like YOU do? It might impress the ladies. Seriously, pal, using big words to hide stupidity only works on the truly idiotic. If YOU like Watts, stop wasting space.
8Ho03EdONl1liL 6 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Don't get stuck staring at the finger pointing to the moon. The message is what matters, not the messenger. Who Alan Watts is or was doesn't matter! It doesn't matter that he's not even saying anything new (Who is these days?). It just doesn't matter. Look around you; how many alcoholic ego maniacs are spouting second-hand information from a pulpit every Sunday? How many of them are sincere and how many are only trying to make a buck off the ignorant?
coyoteself 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL What the does his consumption of alchohol have to do with anything? Does that make any of his ideas wrong? If a baby rapist argues that if you drop a ball, it will fall to the ground because of gravity, does the fact that he is insane make his point invalid?
DemonHermit 7 months ago
@DemonHermit Well written. His alcoholism is just one of his many red flags. He admits to being an entertainer, but I've never heard it. All I've heard is the wise old Zen Master act with no disclaimers that it was an act. He regurgitates the teachings of others quite nicely most of the time, but the problem is he is downright WRONG on many occasions, and unless you know enough, these errors can go undetected, misleading those seek real teachings. :D Is one considered insane if he rapes babies?
8Ho03EdONl1liL 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Well I along with many others have enjoyed his ideas and philosophies. In my opinion he was a good speaker and I believe he had a passion for his work.
Daoism, Buddhism, etc are just traditions that have similar core teachings, much of which has to do with the realization of the self. Alan Watts had his own point of view, and if his work inspires and helps people understand themselves, then I could care less what he drank or where he put his penis.
DemonHermit 7 months ago 3
@8Ho03EdONl1liL
It's established that you are not a fan of A.Watts anymore, which is fine but please stop trying to save us all from our own ignorance, I can take the negative things said here about A.W and still see that there is much to learn from him, I also like to listen to Krishnamurti who was not a Zen Master or anything like it, if Zen Masters do denigrate A.W then I think it is their Ego's that are doing so which kinda makes them, well, Not Masters IMHO. Who knows enough BTW ?
phillintheuk1 7 months ago
@phillintheuk1 I just hope no one else makes the same mistake I did. I'm sure 95% of what he says is true and if it helps, great, but those who are very serious about enlightenment would benefit more from Adyashanti, Jeff Foster, Mooji, Scott Kiloby, etc. (Only Adya is Zen. The others are Advaitists - same idea). The Zen Masters I spoke of are famous and as real as they get. They wouldn't speak ill of someone because of ego, but it's their duty to protect the Dharma so if asked, they must tell.
8Ho03EdONl1liL 7 months ago
@8Ho03EdONl1liL Honestly, I'd consider reassessing the value of your masters if the result of your study is your behavior here. You didn't know that he mentions his faults because you didn't bother to look (he has an autobiography). You have strange attachment to presuming his intent. What was it that he conned you out of again? Also, did you find the true masters before or after your time with his work? Seems odd to me to detest the first rung of a ladder for not being higher than the second.
LuciferComplex 6 months ago 2
AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE
LoveVanillaRose 7 months ago
i think i finally applied to what is being said in this song!
unicep12345 8 months ago
2690 understand that a positive rating is undefinable without a negative rating to compare it to.
jakebreaker 8 months ago