Is Jesus God-Ahmad Deedat vs Anis Shorrosh 15 of 16

[Iphone13000]

@TheHolyBible1000

and u also need to read the quran before talking rough !! Go fuck yourself in the hell ..

[naveenlutchmun]

jesus is lord , the king ,prince of peace, lord our saviour, the bible is the truth word of god, in christian miracles still going, pastor benny hinn miracles. david herzog. apostle charles in denmark. but in muslim there no miracles,but only miracles is the going 70 virgin after death.

[Mazarbul]

Wow... I'm surprised that someone who calls himself a scholar is so endlessly helpless in refuting his opponent's arguments against divinity of Jesus. Shorrosh's answers are simply pathetic. Shame on him! I'm saying this as a Christian.

May God bless you all my brothers Muslims and Christians. Adonai echad!

[lovednthate96]

why Anis Shorrosh is in American Jail because of destroying tax evidence & setting a house on fire? He should not be in jail because Jesus already paid for his sin!!

[islamfalse]

WHY MUSLIMS CANT BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD

The god of this age(satan) has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

- 2 Cointhians 4:4

[mjbrehman]

shorrosh is a fool.his team is an idiot team.

[mjbrehman]

mr. deedat rocks.

[TenRee3]

07:05 the roar of the audience's applause for Deedat shows who was clearly the winner. May Allah (swt) grant him peace and happiness eternally. Salam.

[sara2781993]

love ahmad deedat alla yer7ema <3

[1islamforever]

It seems that they, Anis Shorrosh and team, don't have enough knowledge about their own Bible. It could be because they don't know which bible they have to refer to. Mr Shorrosh is not good  enough to challenge Mr Deedat. Poor Mr. Shorrosh.

[SleBawe]

I think Christians likes Mr.Mohamad Deedat more than Muslims cause he know alot of their Religion ..deedat realy a honorable man ...

[TheGunman1994]

oh god he can barely complete his speech..and then they start cheering!

[Nasiruldeen]

does anyone when this debate occurred

[afgbadboy]

the Christina goes"Yes" "Yes" , Oh "No" "No" and then goes "Yes. By nature its partial. Thats a slight illustration and a projection of the whole bible. 

[afgbadboy]

@afgbadboy The Christian"

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 were all gods great family what are you talking about god is your creator not your father and this is exactly why i get angry, christians are brainwashed with all this saying that god loves them but in the bible it says that we are like maggots to god and that if he got rid of us it wouldnt matter to him one bit, and this is what it says in your bible.

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 jesus didnt do anything its you christians who butchered my prophets name, he was a prophet not a god and your bible says this itself it says that is which is born of a woman is unclean, also jesus was circumcised on day 8 of his birth are you saying god had circumcision, it is your stupidity which offends me. you keep doing your charity work and boasting about it by doing this you just show the real reason why u do it and it isnt for jesus it is so you can boast

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 show me my friend one place in the bible where jesus said I am God, Worship Me and i will convert to christianity and go get baptised this is your opportunity my friend to convert me.

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 what you talking about muhammad was illeterate he did not right the quran everything in the quran is gods word not his, muhammads words were recorded in the hadis not the quran again if you know nothing keep your mouth shut. the bible contains gods word, jesus words, the historians words and it contains pornography the quran if you read it only has the words god said written in them and the words muhammad spoke where in the hadis. ignorant fool

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 and next time dont reply back to me because im not one to quit a will make you look like a fool just like deedat made sorrosh look like a fool, who just wanted his mommy by the end of it now go suck on that whore's tits god knows how many dicks had been in you moms pussy before your dads entered. you disgusting vile bastards

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 how did he just use the quran he used your bible dumbass and he even quoted for the dumbass christians there so they can have a look at it to what were you watching, now go back to lala land where you belong, such a fool that even when proof is presented for you from the bible you are still denying it, now thats retarded just like the looks on the christian faces when they were losing they were retarted lol.

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 hey why you remove your past comment was it because you fucked up and couldn't come back with a valid argument to say why you think sorrosh won, i have given you my reasons why i think deedat won is it because your a biased christian and cannot swallow defeat just like your mother should have swallowed you, you low life.

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 theres nothing holy about your book it was written by MAN not GOD its not worth the paper its printed on, people have contaminated your book where is the gospel of jesus in the bible oh wait its not there only mark,luke,john etc but no jesus you ignoramous you believe god came out of a vagina like you, you ignorant bastard one day you will knoe how wrong you are and i can not wait for that day as you will burn.

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 and did you see the Christian faces in the crowd they looked devastated on what they believed in and you could see it in there eyes that they were wrong, it was so sweet to watch. and at one point sorrosh started singing it was hilarious this guy should be on pop idol hey all your christian choirs should be on pop idol you;ll get more respect there. man what a joke

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 wtf have you been watching sorrosh did not answer any of the questions as was penalised for it, he also did not know his bible he had to open it up for the answers while deedat a non Christian knew it off by heart, even the worse that was taken out of the bible deedat knew while sorrosh did not he made christians look like a joke, and your comment has just proved to me how much of a joke you are.

[ati832]

@cormorano2010 did you watch the debate the christians lost and the muslim won so which religion is right is Islam and which one is a joke is christianity, and you are also a big joke just like the pastor here.

[PlancksTime]

Anis's name should be anus

[remzi071]

the koran number 1

[SleBawe]

Ahmad Deedat is Amazing man

[Thenicedude3]

Lol all the debates i have seen between Islam and christianity the muslims win the debate amazing alhmdullah

[TheHolyBible1000]

@Thenicedude3

He said that the translations not real, this is the only word they have those Muslims.

Anis shorrosh win this debate easy against alhmdullah, so all those dump up is from Muslims.

You Muslims need realy discus about real debate not just talk funny, show with manuscripts like Bible has, non of those has the Koran.

[Thenicedude3]

@TheHolyBible1000 For your information im not a Muslim anymore

[faaarin]

Poor Deceivers!

You cannot challenge Quran, Because It is word of True God.

[frosbel]

@faaarin , the Quran is the word of Satan !

[TheHolyBible1000]

@faaarin

600 year after the event with no eye witness and no manuscripts only lousy words of Mohamed said that Jesus is not the son of God.

Jesus is God in flesh, you Muslims need really read the Bible before talk rough.

Wow, what a allot of Muslims in the background.

[faaarin]

Allah is best in exposing, defeating Plots. When the enemies of the Muslims were planing a Plot to kill the Muslims, Allah planed before them to defeat their Plots.For both Plots the same word Makr is used that is the genius of Arabic Language.

The Word Makr means to plan for a plot, as well as To plan to defeat the Plot.

[faaarin]

Allah is the best in exposing the deceivers. That is the real interpretation of that verse.

Oh Deceiving Christians, Your plots are being exposed by our Muslim Brothers. We are exposing your plots. But Allah is the Great in exposing your plots.

[Dynaverse]

وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ

literally means: and they deceived, and Allah deceived, and Allah is the best deceiver.

[mohabri]

The word is plotted you are mispelling sir!

[Dynaverse]

"The Quran openly states many times that Allah is the 'best deceiver'. The root word used in these verses is Makr which means deception. The majority of Quranic translations erroneously translate this term; as can be seen in the following quotes and analysis. "

- WikiIslam

[Dynaverse]

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

-- Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

[Dynaverse]

Because polygamy is wrong... no not necessarily,but its backward.

If you are as intelligent as Jesus, you see all the pathways, if he does then this will happen etc.. thats why men were somewhat simplistic to him, he could predict all their dirty betrays..

When you have SUCH wisdom, you know whats better for humanity, and what will bring you closer to god.

Thats why Christians are closer, and when they say they FEEL goods presence, they really do.. muslims don't understand!

[kinco360]

What i mean when i say edited, i mean unreasonable. It matches man's complete desire. You believe you go to paradise........

God did not create us to do whatever we want and still go to paradise. Paradise has to be earned. It is the reward for all you have done in the world. That is why there is hell as a punishment. BUT NO! jesus's blood washes away all our sins and promises us salvation.

Also priests edit the bible as they willo until it became a thing of childplay.

[Dynaverse]

There is only one authorized version of the bible that is the King James, everything else is not acceptable.

Revised standard text, jahovas witnesses text, etc.. i as a christian cannot accept this!

One bible, one god, and you should look at Father Zakaria, and his explanation of the trinity.. i think Sarosh did a very poor job to explain.

he is just a man and represents his views of Christianity. There is no "spokesman" for our religion.

To be a spokesman is to be Christ himself.

[imamelman]

everything else is not acceptable.

who said like this?

its not a sin to produce more version of bible as the contain didnt change it meaning from the original bible

[Dynaverse]

Look at this user

bbbfohio

he explains the difference between king james and all the other books very clearly!

please feel free to talk to him

[kinco360]

Hello there Dynaverse!

First of all you claim that the reason that the bible has been altered to man's likings is because god wanted it to happen right?

Well if humans had altered the bible to say that the goal of life is to steal, rape and murder young children at night.

WOuld that happen because god wanted humans to kill. I know the bible speaks of love and care and respect for others.BUT!! it is edited completely to man's likings.

[Dynaverse]

99 attributes and many of them you would not believe..

look up the 99 attributes deedad is talking about.. and you will find "the great deciever" im not joking.. look it up

[imamelman]

stand at your own feet...

i already answer all dedat misunderstanding...

[kinco360]

"believe god does not perform mircales, hes not a magician, we believe god performs because he can!"

That is a contradiction.

We believe that jesus is a man but born miraculously. That is why we muslims beleive his virgin birth tio be a miracle.Now about Moses.

Moses performed a miracle and so did jesus. And so did Muhammed PBUH, yusef, isaaq, yacob, etc. All of them occured because god wanted it to happen.

[Dynaverse]

Deedat was punished for 10 years on his deathbed!

god pubished him.. why punish you too?

how stupid are you people.

Yes hes charismatic, but so is the devil, phenomenal convincers..

How can u define religion based on logic when you are talking about spirit? i cant believe this muslim arguments lol..

[kinco360]

we cannot always believe what we FEEL is right.

for all i know buddishm is the most PEACEFUL way to live!!! we have to seek the truth and see what is most definitely without a doubt the word of god. if we base everything on logic.... well we would be called scientologists right?

believing in the unseen is against logic right?

and btw every version of the bible has been altered and is contradicting to the original text ( hebrew ) or whatever language it was in.

plz respond and explain

[Dynaverse]

Kinoc360 on sciencetology.. Sciencetology has nothing to do with science, its a cult religion based on the theme of aliens on earth.

And i dont understand why your suggesting the bible has been altered to suggest something different to the original work past down from god to Moses? example

If you have any further questions ask this user on youtube -> bbbfohio, hes a christian scholar, will explain everything to the letter for you.

[Dynaverse]

kinco360 on FEEL.

I have this argument allot with my muslim friends. You have to ask yourself, what brings man closer to god, and his understanding closer to the heavens? The koran says submission of the whole world will lead to this, but the bible works on evolution, to evolve man through peace and understanding AND gods word to reach mans full potential. Submission makes man go nowhere, but dont misunderstand, Christians are very very humble to god.

[kinco360]

OH YA!!!

I saw that u said something about the 99 names of allah. I just looked them up..... NONE of them say THE GREAT DECEIVER. Please if you could direct me to the site where it says that and how it is pronounced in arabic.

You probably got that out of a hate site.

About bbbfohio. Is he up for debates? Can you please ask him for me beacuse i am excited to discuss my point of view with him.

Thank you so very much.

btw if you don't hear a response from me in a while its cuz im busy

[Marishtay]

Deedat was a Class Act..May allah give him Jennah he Repd islam to the Fullest. Mashallah

[imamelman]

my friend, Jesus is now alive coz He ve been risen from the death. His tomb was now empty.

man always kill man, what problem if God raised God?

i need more information before i explain to you. please give me the detail which part in the bible that have been removed by the qualified christian scholar. tell me the name of the book, the chapter and the numbers of each verse that you claim have been removed by them.

[shanju143]

use ur logic and intelligence.. we dont want to battle with u for making u accept islam.. Just think how many doubts u hav while u accpet jesus as God.. me a muslim reverted from christianity.. so far the quran had no mystakes and not edited as well as it had details of many things dat jst science discovered.. i hope u may see the debate on youtube between Dr. Zakir Naik and william Campbelll... thanks and prayers . dont blindly beieve wat ur parents did.. use ur brain.. take it or leave it

[imamelman]

i lead my parent to christianity... i am a truth seeker... i never said that quran is false. i read quran and discovered a lot of truth there.. i choose to accept Jesus as God and my savior.. He is great even in quran. i read quran but i didnt found the promises of ALLAH for my salvation. i choose christianity coz there re alots of promise by God that i surely come to father at heaven. Jesus already remind us (believer) that we would be hated by these world but we re happy coz HEAVEN is waiting

[shanju143]

see the literature and mathematical miracles in quran.. few are here in youtube.. we believe in jesus and one cant be a muslim if he dont believe in him.. but we believe in him as the prophett or messenger of allah.. see the talk by deedat prophet mohammed in the book of bible... u said u r a truth seeker then just have a look at the number of people dat revert to islam..

[imamelman]

only people that cant read can be foolish by fact like deedat. the question he present have been answered many times but he continue to asking the same...

[shanju143]

mathematical miracle in quran may help u understand dat even a word was edited it wouldnt occur.. so a book to prevail unedited for this long.. use ur brain

[imamelman]

can u give me what miracle in quran?

how great the miracle?

did quran promise you a salvation?

i found the great mirale in quran where its telling us that Isa can heal or raised a dead man.

if Jesus only a prophet, why quran say that He is great not only in this world but in Heaven?

only Allah reign in Heaven but Quran mention Jesus will....

[shanju143]

how often do u see a muslim scholar reverted to christianity while the countless priest and nun embraced islam like me.. not to hurt ur feelings though.. ok if u dont find deedat's reply convincing cant u see the qur'ans mathematical miracles on youtube,, do u think a man can do this..?

[kinco360]

remember plz i am not attacking u this is just a exchanging of friendly thoughts.. :)

all the prophets will go to heaven and they will see allah plz unless u can provide proof just understand wat islam is all about then post comments.

Jesus can do all that he can do cus allah gave him the power to do so.. it was a power to convince the people that he is a prophet.

hope to hear from u soon :)

[imamelman]

all the prophets will go to heaven and they will see allah .....

proof these words first. show me this verse according to quran. if there was not, surely you lie....

if anybody lied.... remember al baqarah 81.... lie is sin...

[kinco360]

actually im very sorry to say that u r mistaken surat al baqara verse 81 doesnt say lie is sin... it does say that somewhere in the quran but wat verse 81 says is my proof.. plz check it out.

[kinco360]

sry imamelman ( no offense ) but u havent read through the whole quran cus god does promise the believers paradise. Surat al baqara verse #81

just to let u know the reason why 20,000 people convert to islam every year in USA is b/c they believe that a religion is supposed to be a way of life not just believe and poof ur guarunteed heavens

Also if heavens was for christians we would enter too cus we believe in jesus.... but if heavens was for muslims... :(

[imamelman]

heaven is for all people those believe Jesus then obey God. christian is NOT the guarantee for heaven. for we know that only Jesus have power to judge. read hadits. quran 3:45 also mention it.

[kinco360]

no muslim is a true muslim until he believes in jesus as a messenger of god that was granted all his amazing powers through god. We muslims dont believe that he hes the same significance as god...

just to clear things up when u said sura 3 the quran says that jesus will be held in a high honour and he will be near allah...... in islam having high honour is when ur in the top levels of paradise being near allah is when the muslims will finally see allah... plz respond

[Dynaverse]

The messenger of god.

Your putting Jesus in the same category as adam, and moses.

Mohamed being above jesus and then god.

I dont understand why you do that.

[imamelman]

quran ali imran say... God lift Jesus to heaven... how about muhamad?

[kinco360]

i do that because jesus is in the same category as adam and moses.

AND SO IS THE PROPHET MUHMMED ( PBUH ) he is just.... special in a way because he is the last prophet of god. he is the prophet who spread the word of god among alot of people and he made sure that the quan and the ahadith stayed authentic.

Not that the quan could be altered. Every prophet is special in his own way.

ibrahim, moses, adam, yusef, etc.

[Dynaverse]

Kinoc360, How do you explain that Jesus will come back to rule the world? not Mohamed, how do you explain his virgin birth? and is he the anointed one but not Mohamed?

You cant seriously be suggestion Mohamed is greater then jesus.. Does the Koran really believe jesus was JUST a plain simple man like adam?

[Dynaverse]

the koran is written 600 years after the word of god...

600 years!! are u insane?

how can u accept it?

[kinco360]

We muslims talk about the prophet muhammed more because everything the prophet jesus said was altered and edited to the likes of man. islam can't be altered.

About the 600 year thing.. well there is an explanation.

First of all we believe in jesus and the message jesus brought to man. but that message no longer exists. it has been edited. all the bibles contain contradicting errors. that is why we don't accept it as the word of god.

the quran could not be chaneged so it is authentic.

[Dynaverse]

Kinco360 on Jesus's message.

If Jesus had wanted man to preserve a different message, then he couldve wrote out the bible himself, or during his life put the bible together. But that didnt happen, why? he had a ample amount of time! why did he use human beings?

[Dynaverse]

Sorry to clear this point up about Jesus and message, my english needs some work apology.

If Jesus wanted he couldve wrote the bible in his own time and it would result in preserving the right message like you claim in islam, why didnt he do that and why did he leave it to his followers? who were man?..

[imamelman]

Jesus is alive forever..... He gave us the eternal life who beleive Him...

roman 10:9 thats if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord ," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

[nasri]

You contradict yourself.

Jesus is alive forever yet he needs to be raised from the dead?

And if Jesus is God, that means God raised God from the dead.

I'm sure you watched the video. Please explain why those qualified christian scholars removed that verse from the bible?

[ghasanokal]

sorry but i am confused Nasri, the idea of our beloved Jesus that he is alive and he will raise from the dead? it put a question mark ( alive and raise from the dead) Alive and live among the dead ? please explain thanks

[nasri]

Hi friend. Erm i think you misunderstood what i was saying.

imamelman was saying that Jesus is alive forever.

I asked him how he can be alive forever if he needed to be raised from the dead.

Cheers. =)

[imamelman]

my friend... more than 2000 years ago Jesus was arise from the DEAD.

bible show it clear.

read bible if you need confirmation. there is no banned to read bible.

al baqarah 176 wrote: Allah gave al-kitab (bible) that contain truth.

[nasri]

The real bible has been changed and modified by humans.

"Jesus Christ" was not even his real name.

If you can't even get the name of your "lord" right, don't expect us to believe what the bible says, and don't claim that it contains truth.

[imamelman]

hello my dear friend,,,,

now your turn to pfoor which part in the bible that have been change?

if you can present i will explain you more.

i cant say the name of our almighty God. we have to obey Him. God command to NOT say His name without perfect reason. exodus 20:7.

your quran al baqarah verse 176 mention bible contain truth. but you refuse to accept it. this show me that no need to talk more to you. you never seek truth. i just intend to talk with someone that thirsty for the right.

[nasri]

I don't need to proove anything.

Go watch Deedat's 'is the bible god's word'.

And which bible hasn't been changed? The Hebrew Bible? Greek Bible? Latin Bible? English Bible? Jewish Bible? Catholics Bible? Protestants Bible? Eastern Orthodox Church's Bible?

All these Bibles individually and collectively have been changed and some are still being changed.

[imamelman]

i feel so pity to the guys.... you know all my friend laugh when heard his speech....

only people that dont know to read can be fooled by his fact.

you have to know what is meaning between change and different.....

the bible available in multi langguge so that all the follower understand God instruction.

unlike muslim, coz most all of them dont understand arabic they think KILLING is God way. thats why there teror. they didnt understand that quran 4:29-30 told they soon to hell.

[Dynaverse]

There are divisions of christianity, and i agree some are very much off! Catholic and mormon and jahovas witnesses and things like that. Thats not the fault of christianity, thats just the fault of certain people. Islam too has devisions and they war because of minor differences in belif

[nasri]

The divisions in Islam are a result of different perspectives with regards to the Qur'an, not because we have different versions of the Qur'an. Which is what Christianity has.

[kinco360]

you say that jesus will rule the world.......

well we muslims believe in something similar. YES! he will come back to earth but not to rule everybody in the world. im not really sure what hell do.

his virgin birth is someting we muslims call a miracle. yes thats right. moses split the sea or the ocean in half. there is no logical eplanation to that. every prophet has his own miracles. and btw, i never said that the prophet muhammed is greater than jesus...

[Dynaverse]

christians believe god does not perform mircales, hes not a magician, we believe god performs because he can! And it was gods work to make this happen. Had god wanted he wouldve chose but any man like moses or mohamed to relay his message, but he from birth created jesus to live and understand human beings and then bring the best out of them.

If you put a child in a foregin country the child will learn everything about its people, language and behavior.

What better way to communicate with man

[Dynaverse]

Kingo360 on MOSES.

Yes its true moses was beloved by god. Nor christian nor jew nor muslim will disagree. and Yes Moses SPLIT the ocean but only by the grace of god. Moses was but a man.

Jesus on the other hand was not a man, he was not born off a man, he was born by a virgin birth. Had he been but a man, someone wouldve had sex with marry and marry conceived. Then we can say JESUS was of a man.

[Dynaverse]

Jesus didnt use a staff, or a imbued object to do gods miracle!

jesus simply commanded and so it happens! Jesus was the word of god and yes THROUGH gods grace he has his power. But he is not a man, nor a angel, nor mohamed, moses, or adam. He is Jesus, the WORD of god. Not the prophet, as the world didnt need anymore prophets.. so many already! and despite every teaching mankind was going nowhere. Jesus was sent to bring evolution to man, to bring them from A -> B -> C.

Thats why ...

[Dynaverse]

Jesus made it clear, you have to be born again, baptized, clear of your sins, he eliminated polygamy, because yes because it serves man kind before to repopulate now its causing trouble. Muslims are right when they say he was sent down to clear things up, but they miss the point completely.

[Dynaverse]

Now when i say eliminated polygamy i dont mean he said DISREGARD the old testament. No! what i mean by that is that jesus brought upon EVOLUTION. You are here, and now i will take you a step up to there..

As I explained before DESPITE the old teaching people were still wiked, he came to EVOLVE people to the next level. Hence

`For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh

it dosnt say 4 become one or nine become one. why?

[Dynaverse]

accurate. How can you assume this? you cant do that, its like me making a new religion today, and saying my religion because it explains everything is now superior to your religion the koran. And i will explain everything in it...

You cant do that. If you assume the Koran never existed then we can talk

[Dynaverse]

Nasri, the Koran was not even written by Mohamed, not to mention not published many years after his death!

[nasri]

Lol. Who claimed Muhammad pbuh wrote the Qur'an? Everyone knows he was illiterate. The Qur'an was spread through Muhammad pbuh through recitation and repetition. Do you know how long after Jesus's pbuh death the bible was written/compiled/composed/edit­ed? Over 300 years later, and by multiple authors. On top of that, the Bible is a translation. And translation is never 100%. Don't point at the Qur'an. The current Bible has far more issues with its authenticity. Even Christian scholars know this.

[ExtinctionAgenda]

GHASANOKAL,, you have a problem, your problem is you dont believe that jesus died on the cross,and islam says he was not killed, can you prove historically that jesus didnt die on the cross, i say historically because we need a witness to prove this claim of quran, QURAN has errors and you ust admit that, I CAN GIVE SOME OF ERROR IF YOU WANT