YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
On the other hand, I think all the politicians of Europe, all of the heads of state all of them having to be elected by their people would have known quite well that if a similar question had been put to their electorates by referendum, the answer in 95% of the countries would probably have been no as well. These issues will be debated. Hopefully on this occasion the yes side is going to win..
What are you talking about? There are real reasons why people don't want this treaty. Things that, if it were to be passed, would make people stop and say "Oh Shit, look what we've done, the gendarmerie are attacking people on the street, our lives are ruled only by this many-headed dictator - the Commission, and all because we didn't ask them to try again, and write a better treaty...?"
Yawn.... this is the old attempt to pass off the centralizing agenda as a "European perspective" while po-facedly calling all other concerns "National fights", a simple word-play. When the centralists decide to act as a bloc, their ambitions become worse than any legitimate national interests. Furthermore, national issues are answerable through proper democratic processes to the public. Central bloc issues, on the other hand, would be totally unsupervised, were Lisbon to go through.
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NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.
YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
Who you going to trust?
urfadder 2 years ago
Good oul' Charlie:
On the other hand, I think all the politicians of Europe, all of the heads of state all of them having to be elected by their people would have known quite well that if a similar question had been put to their electorates by referendum, the answer in 95% of the countries would probably have been no as well. These issues will be debated. Hopefully on this occasion the yes side is going to win..
madass641 2 years ago
What are you talking about? There are real reasons why people don't want this treaty. Things that, if it were to be passed, would make people stop and say "Oh Shit, look what we've done, the gendarmerie are attacking people on the street, our lives are ruled only by this many-headed dictator - the Commission, and all because we didn't ask them to try again, and write a better treaty...?"
ProtectingDemocracy 2 years ago
Yawn.... this is the old attempt to pass off the centralizing agenda as a "European perspective" while po-facedly calling all other concerns "National fights", a simple word-play. When the centralists decide to act as a bloc, their ambitions become worse than any legitimate national interests. Furthermore, national issues are answerable through proper democratic processes to the public. Central bloc issues, on the other hand, would be totally unsupervised, were Lisbon to go through.
ProtectingDemocracy 2 years ago