Hanson said he read 30 articles about Romney. Whatever happened to reading what the guy says and has done? Primary sources count. This clown is supposed to be a historian it should be second nature to go for primary sources.
We were "conservative democrats" go to college we "became conservative". So he starts as a conservative then became more conservative. Not a real sea change. No tenure? Well he ended up an academic and is raking in big right-wing money. Why is he complaining?
Wow, he's already blaming Obama for a dirty campaign that hasn't even happened. Then again this clown was all gung ho about the Iraq war and was proven totally wrong.
It's funny that the people who are ignoring Paul are only helping him by looking like incredible media sociopaths with no integrity and get a wave of calls, e-mails and comments on their articles...and when they decide to move from ignoring him to attacking him, the people see that this man of principle that they remember from 2008 standing up for what he believes in (constitutional government) is being attacked from the left wing media and the right wing media. Ron Paul 2012!
How the fuck can you do an 11 minute commentary on the election, and leave out the current front runner, the man who is additionally all over the news right now over bullshit newsletters, and the man who started off the election with a huge boost?
Where the fuck is Ron Paul? You even mentioned Giuliani for shit sake, he never even hinted he would run, what the hell?
Ron Paul is the only candidate who understands the importance of cutting spending and having a free market. He is one of my primary inspirations for my video series and if your interested I welcome you to my channel. Don't be fooled, voters pick the candidates, not parties. We are by far the most motivated group and if we act, we will win. Ron Paul 2012
@tylerjamesstephens Ron Paul? Who's that? Oh yeah...that logical guy. Why would we ever elect someone like that? I thought we stopped doing that years ago. Just accept a psychopathic war criminal for President and stop rocking the boat. Jeez...get with the program man. We can't just do what's right, now. That would be too radical....Wait...are you a terrorist? Who do you think you are? A free man? I suppose you like that constitution thing, too....just like me!
VDH was supposed to be interviewed on Bill Maher's program when the poor thing flipped out mentally. Totally distracted and unable to relate. Very fragile mind. Belongs in a booby hatch. Funny to watch.
Veteran's of IRAQ for RON PAUL!! The only candidate trying to save our freedom. Google NDAA. We can now be considered Terrorists at the discretion of the government, locked up without trial or jury, say goodbye to freedom, say hello to fascism/communism. Vote for Liberty.
Gingrich has a brand of BS, that will likely beat out Romney. Gingrich can beat Obama, if he keeps up the rhetoric. Voters have had to lower the bar and Gingrich is the man. It's about catching the imagination of voters.
The only person who appears to be willing to follow the law is Ron Paul. I have watched all the debates, looked at the evidence of the media blacklist of him. He is not charismatic. He sticks to his principles. Romney doesn't have a good record as a conservative although he might have some pull among independents. Romney does not have nearly the pull of Ron Paul though among the Independent and disenfranchised.. Gingrich is charismatic but deeply flawed, just research his background..
Ron Paul makes everything sound so logical and simple. You know what? It is. Those other guys are bat shit crazy! No wonder they can't keep track of what they want with plans like those. I would flip flop too. (Castor oil. Right. Watch a revolution happen. We won't let the presidency be bought out this time. )
What are you talking about, PJTV- Romney clearly wanst a legit conservative in 2008- why else did the people want Huckabee so badly. A conservative cannot get elected the governor of Massachusetts, period. No one owes Mitt Romney their vote- like the commentator says. But I would definately take Romney over Newt freikng Gingrich.
For an alternative media site, PJTV sure does remind me of MSM
LOOK AT ME IM A RON PAUL FANATIC BECAUSE I LOST THE CAPS BUTTON ON MY KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!
AAHHHHHH!!!! QUICKLY ROUSE THE PAULIAN HORDE AND ZERG THE PAGES OF THE INTERNETS.
Ron Paul can't be elected to president and the majority wont vote for him anyways. The problem is that he doesn't care about reality. His domestic policies aren't really very good they depend on everything going logicaly and perfectly to his plan..right.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? RON PAUL IS THE ONLY ONE WHO IS NOT A CROOK, DOESN'T FLIP FLOP, TELL US WHAT HE WILL DO TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, AND IS THE PERFECT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN! PRACTICE WHAT YOUR PREACH REPUBLICANS! RON PAUL IS A PERFECT CHOICE FOR A BALANCE BETWEEN MANAGING THE ECONOMY AND DEFENDING OUR LIBERTY!! RON PAUL 2012! WE WILL BE MUCH SAFER WITH A STRONG HONEST LEADER THAT PROMOTES PEACE.
Ron Paul should be the Republican Candidate for President. Counting him out is a mistake and a failure of the average person to understand their actual rights under the Constitution. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012!
@zentricky69 I get a kick out of these EXPERTS spewing their propaganda about who is "best" for this country.....notice who he left out when he rambled off the candidates name! the Ron Paul conspiracy continues.......
Ron Paul is so much better than the other candidates, can't New Hampshire see it? I mean Mitt Romney? OH, please no. Newt Gingrich? Are you kidding me? Wake up New Hampshire! Don't you want an honest veteran who happens to be a doctor and knows the law. Don't be afraid of Freedom. Google Ron Paul's campaign, see the facts. Lady Liberty has a knight in shining armor in Ron Paul. Let's not elect any more toads showering them with taxpayer money! Help free this country from the power hungry jerks.
This guy wouldn't know conservatism if it was a pitbull biting him in the ass. It is very conspicuous how this guy doesn't discuss Ron Paul. He is just like the media, trying to act like these liberal republicans like Romney and Gingrich are conservatives so they can pick our candidates. However, he is correct in his assertion that Obama is a criminal. Change to Republican so you can vote for the ONLY candidate who will stop these wars and make the Federal Reserve accountable. RON PAUL!!!
Hmmm, anyone who saw Romney as a "rock hard genuine conservative" in 2008 were not looking closely enough. Supporting assault rifles ban, Romneycare, supporting bailouts, previously being pro-choice (when it was politically beneficial). A lot of other positions that were questionable too. I do not think there will be enough enthusiasm about Romney to bring enough people to the conservative/Republican side.
@RonDukeSilverSwanson - supporting an assault rifles ban is hardly "not being conservative". It's quite a strong right/extreme position to not want to ban assault riffles - either way it does not make one not a conservative, it makes him not a strong right/ extreme conservative. That could be good or bad.
Not really an extreme position. Jon Huntsman, considered one of the most moderate GOP candidates, said he would absolutely veto the assault weapons ban. Wanting an assault weapons ban shows a misunderstanding of the Constitution, the effects of gun control, and personal liberty. You personally might not agree with assault rifles (which some people confuse with machine guns, which they are not) but I hope that the Republican party platform stays consistently pro 2nd Amendment.
Something to clear up. We still have troops in Iraq and they will be there for a very long time. Just because Mr. Obama has said there are no troops there does not mean that there are no is more troops there. I've just watched a group of Guards me come back with tells of combat that is still going on. Then watched as another group of Active Duty leave.
I think either spelling is acceptable. The word has an 'eff' sound but is spelled 'ph'
Not sure what DeepAsleep was writing about. What the dervil is a "decifer?" Is there such a state as cifer? I'm familiar with encamp and decamp, what the #ows crowd does. When they invade a park is encamp, to create a camp. When they are rightfully evicted to get rid of the crime problems they bring it is decamp.
People who suddenly change their views because of the actions of others are intellectually vacant. This guy was 100% wrong on Iraq, the biggest error in the biggest decision of our lifetime, and now he gets interviewed as if his opinion means a damn, throwing around reckless charges against the President. He's a disgrace.
@TheTruthiest If you actually knew something about Hanson's background you wouldn't make such spurlious claims. He didn't "suddenly change" his views. He took an analytical approach, ultimately convincing him to shift his stance. You offer no explanation how he is wrong about Iraq. And, yes, his opinion does mean "a damn;" he is studied in and has terrific understanding of the issues and their causes. Finally, his charges aren't reckless, they are informed by facts and actions of the President.
Let me see...a registered democrat who "says" he is changing to independent telling me to take my castor oil. If he wins the primary I'll vote for him. In Arizona in '08 it was between him and McCain in the primary so I voted for him but he is not conservative. I really agree with Ron Paul on the issues but doubt he can be elected or beat Obama. I am drifting toward New. I think he could push the congress right. Not enough 4 me but at least in the direction.
@MTMercilless You aren't interested in having a discussion...you want to "Win" a fight. Screw You. You Win! Hear me?! YOU WIN!!!! You should have been the one being interviewed...because you're so much smarter than everyone else.What are you 20? All freshly minted in your "Conservatism" and ready for a fight. Well, I'm not your "sonny"...my parents are deceased and I'm probably old enough to be your father. I dont care who you vote for or what you think, this conversation is over, "sonny".
@MTMercilless Oviously you didnt watch the debate last night, Cain is shallow. Newt is Newt, of all people, Perry came through with his best performance. A few of these people need to leave the race for things to distill some. There is no front-runner, but I wouldnt feel comfortable leaving the RNC next august with HC as our candidate and I dont think it's going to happen. Whomever the nominee is...I'm going to vote for them. It's a simple matter. Obama needs to go and Anyone is better.
• Romney is a puppet for the 1% terrorists in state of Israel and goldman sachs central bankers
Israel attacked AMERICA during LAVON AFFAIR, USS LIBERTY (34 soliders DEAD, 174 WOUNDED for LIFE), King David Hotel, Rachel Corrie, 9/11 (vans of mossad agents arrested!). WAKE UP.
Iran has attacked America - ZERO TIMES. Iranian Jews don’t even take money from Israel to emmigrate!!
How many times has corporate owned CIA attacked IRAN? hmm...remember Operation Ajax?! Wake up.
CBS censors its own online poll after RON PAUL wins Nov12th debate (again)
Plutocracy:
1. a government or state in whichthe wealthy class rules.
2.a class or group ruling, or exercising power or influence, by virtue of its wealth
Fascism:
1. a governmental system having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism, aggressive militarism and aggressive racism.
Might even vote BO over Romney, sometimes you have to hit bottom before recovery can begin. Romney/Mccain like most republican are just another version of big gov left is left RP 2012!
@MTMercilless "VDH is a good scholar of Greek History but not on Conservatism." That's a joke, right? The heir to W.F.Buckley Jr's mantle as "THE Conservative Thinker" isn't "Conservative" enough for you? Are you to the right of John Birch? Is there not a practical bone in your body? Romney doesnt Have to be the prototypical conservative, we need him to fix the economy. We're not going to get Perry elected and SP aint running. Cain knows fuck-all about govt. We Have no other option. We Must win!
@MTMercilless Cain doesnt have "practical knowledge"...he's never held public office and sticks his foot in his mouth ever time he talks about foreign policy. I like the guy...but Christ...he siad "Lie Detector Test" at the last debate. Expect to hear that in an Obama campaign ad if he's the nominee. Expect it. Expext the last 56 seconds of Perry's political viability in an Obama campaign ad if He get's the nod. The best campaigner out there is Romney. All Obama has against him is "flip-flop".
@MTMercilless "..shill for Romney"? Not at all. My choice was SP. Palin/West2012 that was my dream ticket. Romney was Gov. of one of the most liberal states in the country, Ma. How would you expect him to deal with a state legistlature that was dominated by liberals? Again...he's my 3rd or 4th choice. Palin isn't running, Newt doesn't have the organization behind him and is tainted, and Perry is imploding in front of us. Cain has 0 political experience/never won an election, so it's down to Mitt
@Mercilless One last thing...Yeah...Romney Was the "conservative" candidate. McCain was the "moderate"...the "Maverick". Huckabee was the religious conservative, Romney the fiscal conservative...or are you calling VDH a liar? I mean who the fuck is VDH compared to the great MTMerciless, right? Do you even know who VDH is...or why Roger Simon is interviewing him?
And besides "Not Romney"...what exactly have you put forth? I see a whole bunch of people gave you thumbs ups...but for the life of me, besides advocating not choosing Romney, my 3rd choice btw, your comment said nothing. There are morons on this forum advocating staying home election day rather than vote for an imperfect candidate. I for one dont see an alternative. No other GOP candidate is polling even with Obama But ROMNEY! Fuck being "right", for America's sake, we need to WIN!
@Mercilless Ok Einstein, since you're so much smarter and well informed than me...Which "child" is gong to beat Obama? Since with finely honed political acumen, you've discerned that Obama isn't going to fight for reelection, which one of the un-vetted and in-experienced candidates is going to beat him? Bachmann? Perry? Certainly not Cain...the man's never even held office! But for political hawks like you, that's a plus right? Everyone who felt burned by electing Obama will flock to Him, right?
And that is why Obama should be impeached. He has blantantly disregarded the constitution and he has used his black skin to do it. If he were white, I am not sure if they would have tried to impeach him, but the odds are much, much higher than he would have been.
He is an unlawful President. Republicans, Independent and moderate Democrats had better wake up. He does not share the values of mainstream America. He is a radical BIG GOVERNMENT statist.
I said in 2008 that I would NOT vote for another McCain type RINO especially someone like Romney. Many others in the GOP also said the same thing. How dare the GOP tell us that Romney is a conservative and we should vote for him. He is the lesser of two evils and anyone voting for him is voting for evil just the same as voting for Obama.
All the comments below attacking Romney are disconcerting. I even saw a few who said they just wouldnt vote...Are you people crazy? Obama is losing the middle; independents in particular...is it your wish to drive them back into Obama's arms? You think Cain, Perry or Paul are going to win that race? Well the polls already say no, they wont. I want Gingrich, but that's not going to happen either. We dont have many choices and when it comes down to cases, VDH is right. It's Romney.
@Mercilless Weren't you listening? Romney Was the "conservative" candidate in 2008...I remember...why dont you? Remember Mike Huckabee hanging around just long enough to bleed Romney out of the race, then we were stuck with McCain? And if a "child could beat Obama"...why is he PotUS? You think 2012 is going to be a cakewalk? With the horrible job he's been doing, he's Still at 44%, and he has even started running in earnest yet. Obama is running unopposed. Romney's our best chance to beat him.
Yes, we listened. We aren't fooled by this man's misinformed view.
Romney was a neo-con in 2008. That is a far cry from conservativism, as the election in 2010 demonstrated. Conservatves ARE making a come back. Not Progressive Liberalism dressed up in neo-con clothing.
@maskedphrogg And who's our candidate? Paul? Santorum...CAIN? I missed the meeting where us conservatives were told to lose our minds and back a person who never held office before as an alternative to a person who among other things wasn't experienced enough? SP isn't running and Gingrich is dead coming out of the gate...so who is the "conservative candidate"? This is what we have to pick from. You want to put Perry up there? Regardless of who wins the primary, Everyone needs to vote for them.
There's 8 of them running, or is that just another fact you failed to notice?
Gingrich is dead in the water, hahahaha, tnx that was funny and I needed a good laugh.
Romney is the only candidate who cannot gain any support over time. The other candidates have traded support over time but 3/4 of registered Republicans polled consistently want a candidate other than Romney. You don't need to read TEA leaves to understand those numbers.
@maskedphrogg Glad I could supply you with a oment of laughter. It's a shame that it's true. Go over to RCP and see how Newt polls with Independents....show us all how smart you are by explaining why how a candidate polls with independents is so important right now. Then tell me how many Republicans you will vote for Obama if Romney is the nominee. The primary season is upon us, go vote. That's all.
How long do you think Independents will put up with being lied to?
I visit RealClearPolitics from time to time. I'm not too concerned with poll numbers this early in the campaign. They make for interesting salon discussions, but at this early date they aren't particularly enlightening.
If the R party were more concerned with Independents than their own they would be promoting Ron Paul, not any of the supposedly reformed neo-cons on the platter. No matter, every vote counts.
@maskedphrogg Damn right every vote counts...and Newt's right, we have to stop the infighting and bickering from which the Obama campaign draws strength and ammunition to use against the eventual nominee. The man least likely to give the Obama camp and the MSM ammo to use against them is the same one who's basically not had one slip in any of the debates...Romney. He's the most polished campaigner and top money earner. Romney/McDonnell will be the GOP ticket. Not my 1st choice, but acceptable.
Romney hasn't said a damn thing in the debates worth repeating. He has found it impossible to stay on topic, but that's what happens when a Progressive Liberal from a Progressive Liberal State runs on the Republican ticket. Eventually the bird has to show it's feathers.
I understand your strategy. If Romney is the R ticket then enough R voters will stay home and Obama will get re-elected by the 47%. Stealthy you're not.
@phrogg So you'll commit national suicide and utterly destroy the republic to make a point... you'de allow the Grim Reaper 4 more yrs to choke the life out of us rather than vote for Romney? You hate America that much? Ronald Reagan isn't running in this election. The choice is, the Republican nominee, or the end of America as we knew it...and you plan to stay home? I find THAT "utterly absurd". Whatever. Vote in the primary and if your candidate doesnt win, stay home in Nov. Great strategy.
You're the one rooting for Obamao. Don't come crying to me if he retains his illicit hold on the Executive Office he is not qualified to hold. The President is supposed to be a Natural Born Citizen, not a Naturalized Citizen.
btw idiot, there is one candidate that was endorsed by Ronald Reagan. But don't let facts get it in the way of your fantasy.
@maskedphrogg whatever...your argument has reduced to name-calling. This conversation is over. I'll quote Newt from 45 seconds ago..."Mitt Romney would be an Enormous improvement over Barack Obama."
You have practiced nothing but name calling from your first post. Apparently you can dish it out but god forbid anyone fling it back at you. Hypocrite. That's not ad-hominem. It's an observation.
@maskedphrogg I just reread the thread and am now prepared to call you a name for the first time. You are a Liar. Feel free to go through the thread. You're mischaractization of my discourse on this thread is disengenuous at best. A better discription: a collection of absurdities and lies. You are a liar, and you lied about me in an attempt to cover up the fact that your argument is ridiculous. I don't care what you say. Alpha and Omega, I'm voting for the republican nominee.
If the GOP gambles with Romney, another non-conservative, (as they did when they ran Dole and McCain), they can expect the same result: a Democrat in the White House. VDH is an example of why NRO has lost so many conservative readers.
On weather one agrees with Mr. Hanson or not. He's spot on. Because another Obama term will be arsenic to America. Caster oil won't kill you. When the body's sick, it needs healing before it can be healthy again.
@MTMercilless I hope you are correct. But please, let's not set up a situation where people so sour on Romney or Perry that they stay home if they win, as in 2008.
The primary system is another thing. Ann COulter blames this on open primaries. Perhaps the Republicans in those states need to opt out of State funding, and do their own polling. Andthen all Republicans can vote in the Deocratic primary and wreck havoc. :-)
@MTMercilless If, as you say, a child could beat Obama, why can't any of the candidates besides Romney come close to beating him in a head to head poll? The reality is that Obama is going to retain a huge base of support going into the election, plus the majority of the media in the tank for him. We need the candidate who is simply going to get the most votes against Obama, plain and simple. You wanna win this thing or not?
@MTMercilless "I categorically disagree with...the notion of an idea spectrum..."
Imagine political philosophy as a straight line with conservativism on the right and liberalism on the left. Now imagine fascism as right of conservativism and communism as left of liberalism. Now imagine if that line were a circle, then it infers there's a point where fascism and communism are indistinguishable; That point represents Totalitarianism...!
See, this belief does defy the premise to your denial...!
@MTMercilless Then why does Obama win or tie in one-one-one matchups? Why does the MSM get away with whitewashing OWS? Gingrich won every debate, but he is Obama's dream opponent; he specializes in digging up dirt on divorced men.
I do hope one of the real conservatives - Cain or Santorum or Bachman - gets in. (But I will not vote for a libertarian.)
Ok, we know you will not vote for a libertarian. I personally do not want to vote for a Mormon. Would you care on what basis you categorize Santorum, Bachman, or Cain as "real conservatives"?
@StopFear Well, I'm not that clear on Santorum, but I hate the terrorists who are trying to smear him. But I believe all three are social conservatives, military interventionists on the side of anti-totalitarians, and believers in the free market. None are for illegal alien rights or automatically giving 12-year-olds shots for what is a de facto STD.
Why not a Mormon? Would you vote for a pro-life religious Jew? They all have to be bona fide Christians, even if they have the right views?
I am also against totalitarianism in other countries as well as against illegal aliens or giving them any kind of "work permits" or "working for citizenship" or giving them free education. Why not a Mormon? I will explain why I am very uneasy of a Mormon becoming a US president. When it comes to people like Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, etc, they often state they are Christian but mostly do not take it seriously. They do it because anything else is risky for them.
..continued. With Mormon like Romney or Huntsman it is very different. When someone is a Mormon, especially a successful one who says he's been in the same church all his life I am pretty sure he actually does believe the Mormon teaching, public, as well as secret cryptic teachings. I've been researching cults and Mormons specifically and history of Mormons and the US government is not very good. For one, Mormons have a head prophet, who dictates what is right, 2nd they have want more power.
@zvi303 They believe Mormons and their prophet head of the LDS church are the authority. One of their main goals is to spread their church all over the world and make more Mormons and they specifically deny standard protestant teachings which, in general, represent American protestants, liberal or conservative. You can count that Mormons will always be for leniency toward south American immigrants, who are their big base. They will also promote polygamy if it were ever an issue.
Romney can only seem like a bright light of conservativism in comparison to the darkness of stupid McCain. I will always despise the wretched McCain for throwing away that election. Atleast it has put an end to his constant betraying of the party to get attention.
As for Romney, no one trusts him. He is a plastic robot, if the GOP itself won't embrace him, "independents" will be even more dubious. He is not the smart moderate candidate. He is an empty unprincipled man.
Every time Ron Paul voted against pro abortion laws and supported pro life laws. Now Romney, despite being a Mormon, is pro "choice" according to his history. Of course if presented with a choice of Obama or Romney I'd pick Romney but he is not very good at all.
@leeuniverse Alex Jones is plain crazy, don't even mention his name in one sentence with Ron Paul. Ron Paul is by all standards a conservative. Did you know that only Ron Paul has a truly pro life record? Every
@StopFear There is nothing Conservative about Ron Paul. He is 100% a libertarian. Being pro-life is a perfectly good libertarian position, if you consider a fetus to be a person. Admittedly, this does remove a lot of theobjections to libertarians, since we've lost on all of the social issues anyway. But I can't support a President who won't even have American protecting the sea lanes (in theory).
Well I can respond by saying it is "not conservative" of you to not consider fetus a person. I do not naively believe that Ron Paul can win, but there are many good conservative reasons to support him. With Clinton and Bush spending went way up, and even if you consider it a libertarian move to cut spending on military, many conservatives love it. Yes he is against spreading our troops in foreign territories or sending millions to foreign nations. Why is that not conservative?
@StopFear Who said I don't consider a fetus a person? (Actually, my position is a bit more complicated, but I didn't state it. But basically I am extremely pro-life.)
Because a Conservative will respond to an attack and not claim it was our fault. A Conservative would not be for drug legalization; if he is a strict constitutionalist, at least he woudl support banning it from crossing state lines. But mainly he seems more interested in being a social liberal than an economic one.
@StopFear What scares me about Paul is that he doesn't think America has any responsibility in the world forum. What is to stop China from attacking Austrailia, for example, if the US fleet is not there? What happens if Russia decides to accompany the next flotilla to Gaza and thus open a channel for arms to flow through? We should have learned our lesson from the period before WWII, what happens when we withdraw from the world.
Note that a standing Navy was there from the beginning.
I don't think Ron Paul is against US involvement in foreign affairs or world forum. He follows the model of Milton Friedman who stated the one field in which federal government must have most power is military and defense. Ron Paul is not against military but current way it is used. When we put our bases in other countries we have to entangle ourselves with various shady international statues and agreements as with UN. No one says he wouldnt defend Australia or Taiwan. Cost is too high
@MTMercilless Yes, very true. I like your analogy. As David Horowitz said, the left asks for the moon and then compromises towards the middle, which is half way to the moon. So you always end up getting far off to the left if you compromise with them.
I disagree with his opinion on romney, Cain i think has the best shot at winning over body odor. Romney to lots of people represents the same old politician, for Cain is not a politician at all.
This is utter Bullshit, so long as people like this keep throwing that Democrat pretending to be a Republican it might actually happen and then we end up with Romney that will damage conservatism more than another four years of Obama will damage the GOP.
@MTMercilless I agree. Remember, he's a professor ;)
Conservatives should fight like hell to get a real conservative into strike distance of Obama. But when the primary is over they should also take ABM - Anyone But the Marxist, imho.
Yep, it's really sad to me that certain conservatives namely the leftist Alex Jones/Ron Paul types feel the need to misrepresent Romney and his record. And before anyone says it, I know all the claims. But there is MORE to the story, and that is the actual truth. The only thing that he was actually a bit liberal on was Abortion, and even then he wasn't actually liberal, he simply wasn't going to interfere with what already was a legal right. Me, Reagan, Cain, and others all changed the same.
@Ravengaurd6 Once you get into extreme Right Wingism, i.e. anarchy, you start to have leftist ideology's. Anti-war, drugs egal, unfair criticism of conservatives, etc. are leftist behavior and ideology's. While I would agree he's not the extreme of Alex Jones types, and certainly agree he's great on constitutional issues, there are some flaws in his ideology, which is why I'm a Conservative and not a Libertarian. Liberty can be taken to an extreme and perversion, which is liberal domain.
@leeuniverse "Once you get into extreme Right Wingism, i.e. anarchy, you start to have leftist ideology's."
No, anarchy is not right-wing. Imagine political philosophy as a straight line with conservativism on the right and liberalism on the left. Now imagine fascism as right of conservativism and communism as left of liberalism. Now imagine if that line were a circle, then it infers there's a point where fascism and communism are indistinguishable; That point represents Totalitarianism...!
@leeuniverse "there are some flaws in his ideology, which is why I'm a Conservative and not a Libertarian. Liberty can be taken to an extreme and perversion, which is liberal domain."
I agree. Libertarians tend to be weak on foreign policy and social issues. Why? Because the Constitution doesn't dictate foreign policy or social values. Libertarians are naive in believing the Constitution can be liberally interpreted to believe radical ideas like abortion 'rights' or drug legalization.
Hanson said he read 30 articles about Romney. Whatever happened to reading what the guy says and has done? Primary sources count. This clown is supposed to be a historian it should be second nature to go for primary sources.
We were "conservative democrats" go to college we "became conservative". So he starts as a conservative then became more conservative. Not a real sea change. No tenure? Well he ended up an academic and is raking in big right-wing money. Why is he complaining?
colddrake80 1 month ago
Wow, he's already blaming Obama for a dirty campaign that hasn't even happened. Then again this clown was all gung ho about the Iraq war and was proven totally wrong.
colddrake80 1 month ago
@colddrake80 Proven totally wrong about what?
chuck3668831 1 month ago
It's funny that the people who are ignoring Paul are only helping him by looking like incredible media sociopaths with no integrity and get a wave of calls, e-mails and comments on their articles...and when they decide to move from ignoring him to attacking him, the people see that this man of principle that they remember from 2008 standing up for what he believes in (constitutional government) is being attacked from the left wing media and the right wing media. Ron Paul 2012!
Namso2010 1 month ago
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How the fuck can you do an 11 minute commentary on the election, and leave out the current front runner, the man who is additionally all over the news right now over bullshit newsletters, and the man who started off the election with a huge boost?
Where the fuck is Ron Paul? You even mentioned Giuliani for shit sake, he never even hinted he would run, what the hell?
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lgvereor 1 month ago
WTF!!!Ron Paul not even mentioned once?!?!I give up all hope on these idiots...
demonxthedk 1 month ago
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Ron Paul is the only candidate who understands the importance of cutting spending and having a free market. He is one of my primary inspirations for my video series and if your interested I welcome you to my channel. Don't be fooled, voters pick the candidates, not parties. We are by far the most motivated group and if we act, we will win. Ron Paul 2012
CommonSenseLako 1 month ago
Burrak Obama ran on peace promise to avoid wars to win in 2008. But He must continue war in Iran to secure Victory in the next election .
(FOR WHAT SO HE CAN TAKE HIS FAMILY TO DISNEYLAND?
thehork1984 1 month ago 3
Why was Ron Paul omitted from this list? He's the only conservative running.
tylerjamesstephens 2 months ago
@tylerjamesstephens Ron Paul? Who's that? Oh yeah...that logical guy. Why would we ever elect someone like that? I thought we stopped doing that years ago. Just accept a psychopathic war criminal for President and stop rocking the boat. Jeez...get with the program man. We can't just do what's right, now. That would be too radical....Wait...are you a terrorist? Who do you think you are? A free man? I suppose you like that constitution thing, too....just like me!
emorganschuster62 2 months ago 2
VDH was supposed to be interviewed on Bill Maher's program when the poor thing flipped out mentally. Totally distracted and unable to relate. Very fragile mind. Belongs in a booby hatch. Funny to watch.
BillSalem 2 months ago
We the people... NEED a Doctor!
Any suggestions?
RPauliticalPeace 2 months ago
@RPauliticalPeace ...ummmmm, THE conservative candidate?
Ron Paul 2012!!!
Jalteck 1 month ago
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Ron Paul is the only nominee with integrity.
6ii1ii9 2 months ago
Conservatives are a joke.
lemonrind 2 months ago
@lemonrind If they are named Rommney, Gingrich, Perry, Santorum, Bachman, Palin, Cain, then you are right on.
Ron Paul is a REAL conservative, though, and most certainly not a joke...
Ron Paul 2012!!!
Jalteck 1 month ago
Newt You are the one,please kick out,Obama,& the useless Hillary Clinton.
mbett99 2 months ago
@mbett99 Newt is a liar and a snake
dragsterf 2 months ago
@mbett99 If you like Newt, I think it might be too late to save you from The Establishment...
Jalteck 1 month ago 2
Ron Paul is the only way !
aux1z11 2 months ago
Romney, Gingrich, and Perry are all smarmy slime-balls
Ron Paul is the only good choice.
Ron Paul 2012
Error934 2 months ago
Veteran's of IRAQ for RON PAUL!! The only candidate trying to save our freedom. Google NDAA. We can now be considered Terrorists at the discretion of the government, locked up without trial or jury, say goodbye to freedom, say hello to fascism/communism. Vote for Liberty.
~Semper Fi~
Silbaugh4liberty 2 months ago
Victor the neo-con needs to read some Warnerd. Ron Paul 2012.
copperhead325 2 months ago
I stopped the video at 0:55 so I could vomit.
mhoyer01 2 months ago
Gingrich has a brand of BS, that will likely beat out Romney. Gingrich can beat Obama, if he keeps up the rhetoric. Voters have had to lower the bar and Gingrich is the man. It's about catching the imagination of voters.
rollsthepaul 2 months ago
The only person who appears to be willing to follow the law is Ron Paul. I have watched all the debates, looked at the evidence of the media blacklist of him. He is not charismatic. He sticks to his principles. Romney doesn't have a good record as a conservative although he might have some pull among independents. Romney does not have nearly the pull of Ron Paul though among the Independent and disenfranchised.. Gingrich is charismatic but deeply flawed, just research his background..
MatthewBMany 2 months ago
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Paul doesn’t act like a patriot, a patriot acts like Ron Paul
In Braveheart, Mel Gibson was originally supposed to scream “RON PAUL!” however, it was changed to just “Freedom!” for legal reasons
When Chuck Norris gets scared, he goes to Ron Paul
Ron Paul could lead a horse to water AND convince it to drink
King Midas shook hands with Ron Paul once Nothing happened
When socialism goes to sleep at night, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul
flamingpeace 2 months ago
Ron Paul makes everything sound so logical and simple. You know what? It is. Those other guys are bat shit crazy! No wonder they can't keep track of what they want with plans like those. I would flip flop too. (Castor oil. Right. Watch a revolution happen. We won't let the presidency be bought out this time. )
meeshischill1 2 months ago
What are you talking about, PJTV- Romney clearly wanst a legit conservative in 2008- why else did the people want Huckabee so badly. A conservative cannot get elected the governor of Massachusetts, period. No one owes Mitt Romney their vote- like the commentator says. But I would definately take Romney over Newt freikng Gingrich.
For an alternative media site, PJTV sure does remind me of MSM
P0LICEstateWATCH 2 months ago
LOOK AT ME IM A RON PAUL FANATIC BECAUSE I LOST THE CAPS BUTTON ON MY KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!
AAHHHHHH!!!! QUICKLY ROUSE THE PAULIAN HORDE AND ZERG THE PAGES OF THE INTERNETS.
Ron Paul can't be elected to president and the majority wont vote for him anyways. The problem is that he doesn't care about reality. His domestic policies aren't really very good they depend on everything going logicaly and perfectly to his plan..right.
His foreign policy is absolute BS.
Sorry ya'll ain't happening.
valcan321 2 months ago
@valcan321 Well said.
OmegaRage 2 months ago
Why not go with New Gingrich? That way we can toss our kids back into coal camps to learn about hard work and lung diseases early on.
MrTouchShriek 2 months ago
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? RON PAUL IS THE ONLY ONE WHO IS NOT A CROOK, DOESN'T FLIP FLOP, TELL US WHAT HE WILL DO TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, AND IS THE PERFECT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN! PRACTICE WHAT YOUR PREACH REPUBLICANS! RON PAUL IS A PERFECT CHOICE FOR A BALANCE BETWEEN MANAGING THE ECONOMY AND DEFENDING OUR LIBERTY!! RON PAUL 2012! WE WILL BE MUCH SAFER WITH A STRONG HONEST LEADER THAT PROMOTES PEACE.
zentricky69 2 months ago
Ron Paul should be the Republican Candidate for President. Counting him out is a mistake and a failure of the average person to understand their actual rights under the Constitution. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012!
zentricky69 2 months ago
@zentricky69 I get a kick out of these EXPERTS spewing their propaganda about who is "best" for this country.....notice who he left out when he rambled off the candidates name! the Ron Paul conspiracy continues.......
migo53333 1 month ago
Ron Paul is so much better than the other candidates, can't New Hampshire see it? I mean Mitt Romney? OH, please no. Newt Gingrich? Are you kidding me? Wake up New Hampshire! Don't you want an honest veteran who happens to be a doctor and knows the law. Don't be afraid of Freedom. Google Ron Paul's campaign, see the facts. Lady Liberty has a knight in shining armor in Ron Paul. Let's not elect any more toads showering them with taxpayer money! Help free this country from the power hungry jerks.
zentricky69 2 months ago
This guy wouldn't know conservatism if it was a pitbull biting him in the ass. It is very conspicuous how this guy doesn't discuss Ron Paul. He is just like the media, trying to act like these liberal republicans like Romney and Gingrich are conservatives so they can pick our candidates. However, he is correct in his assertion that Obama is a criminal. Change to Republican so you can vote for the ONLY candidate who will stop these wars and make the Federal Reserve accountable. RON PAUL!!!
shadowbankers 2 months ago
Hmmm, anyone who saw Romney as a "rock hard genuine conservative" in 2008 were not looking closely enough. Supporting assault rifles ban, Romneycare, supporting bailouts, previously being pro-choice (when it was politically beneficial). A lot of other positions that were questionable too. I do not think there will be enough enthusiasm about Romney to bring enough people to the conservative/Republican side.
RonDukeSilverSwanson 3 months ago 11
@RonDukeSilverSwanson - supporting an assault rifles ban is hardly "not being conservative". It's quite a strong right/extreme position to not want to ban assault riffles - either way it does not make one not a conservative, it makes him not a strong right/ extreme conservative. That could be good or bad.
Norcha8 1 month ago
@Norcha8
Not really an extreme position. Jon Huntsman, considered one of the most moderate GOP candidates, said he would absolutely veto the assault weapons ban. Wanting an assault weapons ban shows a misunderstanding of the Constitution, the effects of gun control, and personal liberty. You personally might not agree with assault rifles (which some people confuse with machine guns, which they are not) but I hope that the Republican party platform stays consistently pro 2nd Amendment.
RonDukeSilverSwanson 1 month ago
Something to clear up. We still have troops in Iraq and they will be there for a very long time. Just because Mr. Obama has said there are no troops there does not mean that there are no is more troops there. I've just watched a group of Guards me come back with tells of combat that is still going on. Then watched as another group of Active Duty leave.
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@MTMercilless
I think either spelling is acceptable. The word has an 'eff' sound but is spelled 'ph'
Not sure what DeepAsleep was writing about. What the dervil is a "decifer?" Is there such a state as cifer? I'm familiar with encamp and decamp, what the #ows crowd does. When they invade a park is encamp, to create a camp. When they are rightfully evicted to get rid of the crime problems they bring it is decamp.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
People who suddenly change their views because of the actions of others are intellectually vacant. This guy was 100% wrong on Iraq, the biggest error in the biggest decision of our lifetime, and now he gets interviewed as if his opinion means a damn, throwing around reckless charges against the President. He's a disgrace.
TheTruthiest 3 months ago
@TheTruthiest If you actually knew something about Hanson's background you wouldn't make such spurlious claims. He didn't "suddenly change" his views. He took an analytical approach, ultimately convincing him to shift his stance. You offer no explanation how he is wrong about Iraq. And, yes, his opinion does mean "a damn;" he is studied in and has terrific understanding of the issues and their causes. Finally, his charges aren't reckless, they are informed by facts and actions of the President.
Diettinger42 3 months ago
Let me see...a registered democrat who "says" he is changing to independent telling me to take my castor oil. If he wins the primary I'll vote for him. In Arizona in '08 it was between him and McCain in the primary so I voted for him but he is not conservative. I really agree with Ron Paul on the issues but doubt he can be elected or beat Obama. I am drifting toward New. I think he could push the congress right. Not enough 4 me but at least in the direction.
MarcusLeeWhite 3 months ago
Very thoughtful man. Thanks for this interview, PJ Media.
JackDoitCrawford 3 months ago
@MTMercilless Try to decifer what it is I am saying. This conversation....is over. Do you understand?
Screw You and you twisted morality. OVER and OUT! UNDERSTAND?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
HAVE A NICE DAY
WE'RE DONE HERE.
wideawake123 3 months ago
@MTMercilless You aren't interested in having a discussion...you want to "Win" a fight. Screw You. You Win! Hear me?! YOU WIN!!!! You should have been the one being interviewed...because you're so much smarter than everyone else.What are you 20? All freshly minted in your "Conservatism" and ready for a fight. Well, I'm not your "sonny"...my parents are deceased and I'm probably old enough to be your father. I dont care who you vote for or what you think, this conversation is over, "sonny".
wideawake123 3 months ago
@MTMercilless Oviously you didnt watch the debate last night, Cain is shallow. Newt is Newt, of all people, Perry came through with his best performance. A few of these people need to leave the race for things to distill some. There is no front-runner, but I wouldnt feel comfortable leaving the RNC next august with HC as our candidate and I dont think it's going to happen. Whomever the nominee is...I'm going to vote for them. It's a simple matter. Obama needs to go and Anyone is better.
wideawake123 3 months ago
• Romney is a puppet for the 1% terrorists in state of Israel and goldman sachs central bankers
Israel attacked AMERICA during LAVON AFFAIR, USS LIBERTY (34 soliders DEAD, 174 WOUNDED for LIFE), King David Hotel, Rachel Corrie, 9/11 (vans of mossad agents arrested!). WAKE UP.
Iran has attacked America - ZERO TIMES. Iranian Jews don’t even take money from Israel to emmigrate!!
How many times has corporate owned CIA attacked IRAN? hmm...remember Operation Ajax?! Wake up.
WAKE UP!RON PAUL 2012
eamonearly 3 months ago
Youtube: DeWowc3HTtQ
CBS censors its own online poll after RON PAUL wins Nov12th debate (again)
Plutocracy:
1. a government or state in whichthe wealthy class rules.
2.a class or group ruling, or exercising power or influence, by virtue of its wealth
Fascism:
1. a governmental system having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism, aggressive militarism and aggressive racism.
eamonearly 3 months ago
Might even vote BO over Romney, sometimes you have to hit bottom before recovery can begin. Romney/Mccain like most republican are just another version of big gov left is left RP 2012!
marcef100 3 months ago
@MTMercilless "VDH is a good scholar of Greek History but not on Conservatism." That's a joke, right? The heir to W.F.Buckley Jr's mantle as "THE Conservative Thinker" isn't "Conservative" enough for you? Are you to the right of John Birch? Is there not a practical bone in your body? Romney doesnt Have to be the prototypical conservative, we need him to fix the economy. We're not going to get Perry elected and SP aint running. Cain knows fuck-all about govt. We Have no other option. We Must win!
wideawake123 3 months ago
@MTMercilless Cain doesnt have "practical knowledge"...he's never held public office and sticks his foot in his mouth ever time he talks about foreign policy. I like the guy...but Christ...he siad "Lie Detector Test" at the last debate. Expect to hear that in an Obama campaign ad if he's the nominee. Expect it. Expext the last 56 seconds of Perry's political viability in an Obama campaign ad if He get's the nod. The best campaigner out there is Romney. All Obama has against him is "flip-flop".
wideawake123 3 months ago
@MTMercilless "..shill for Romney"? Not at all. My choice was SP. Palin/West2012 that was my dream ticket. Romney was Gov. of one of the most liberal states in the country, Ma. How would you expect him to deal with a state legistlature that was dominated by liberals? Again...he's my 3rd or 4th choice. Palin isn't running, Newt doesn't have the organization behind him and is tainted, and Perry is imploding in front of us. Cain has 0 political experience/never won an election, so it's down to Mitt
wideawake123 3 months ago
@Mercilless One last thing...Yeah...Romney Was the "conservative" candidate. McCain was the "moderate"...the "Maverick". Huckabee was the religious conservative, Romney the fiscal conservative...or are you calling VDH a liar? I mean who the fuck is VDH compared to the great MTMerciless, right? Do you even know who VDH is...or why Roger Simon is interviewing him?
wideawake123 3 months ago
And besides "Not Romney"...what exactly have you put forth? I see a whole bunch of people gave you thumbs ups...but for the life of me, besides advocating not choosing Romney, my 3rd choice btw, your comment said nothing. There are morons on this forum advocating staying home election day rather than vote for an imperfect candidate. I for one dont see an alternative. No other GOP candidate is polling even with Obama But ROMNEY! Fuck being "right", for America's sake, we need to WIN!
wideawake123 3 months ago
@Mercilless Ok Einstein, since you're so much smarter and well informed than me...Which "child" is gong to beat Obama? Since with finely honed political acumen, you've discerned that Obama isn't going to fight for reelection, which one of the un-vetted and in-experienced candidates is going to beat him? Bachmann? Perry? Certainly not Cain...the man's never even held office! But for political hawks like you, that's a plus right? Everyone who felt burned by electing Obama will flock to Him, right?
wideawake123 3 months ago
Its ok if youre a registered democrat in this primary. I participated in Operation Chaos too.
megamaniac76 3 months ago
And that is why Obama should be impeached. He has blantantly disregarded the constitution and he has used his black skin to do it. If he were white, I am not sure if they would have tried to impeach him, but the odds are much, much higher than he would have been.
He is an unlawful President. Republicans, Independent and moderate Democrats had better wake up. He does not share the values of mainstream America. He is a radical BIG GOVERNMENT statist.
666sigma 3 months ago
I said in 2008 that I would NOT vote for another McCain type RINO especially someone like Romney. Many others in the GOP also said the same thing. How dare the GOP tell us that Romney is a conservative and we should vote for him. He is the lesser of two evils and anyone voting for him is voting for evil just the same as voting for Obama.
MrJonah25 3 months ago
Victor, the least you could do is pronounce it correctly.
Romney is the Republicans Castro, not castor oil
It's pronounced Castro
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
All the comments below attacking Romney are disconcerting. I even saw a few who said they just wouldnt vote...Are you people crazy? Obama is losing the middle; independents in particular...is it your wish to drive them back into Obama's arms? You think Cain, Perry or Paul are going to win that race? Well the polls already say no, they wont. I want Gingrich, but that's not going to happen either. We dont have many choices and when it comes down to cases, VDH is right. It's Romney.
wideawake123 3 months ago
@Mercilless Weren't you listening? Romney Was the "conservative" candidate in 2008...I remember...why dont you? Remember Mike Huckabee hanging around just long enough to bleed Romney out of the race, then we were stuck with McCain? And if a "child could beat Obama"...why is he PotUS? You think 2012 is going to be a cakewalk? With the horrible job he's been doing, he's Still at 44%, and he has even started running in earnest yet. Obama is running unopposed. Romney's our best chance to beat him.
wideawake123 3 months ago
@wideawake123
Yes, we listened. We aren't fooled by this man's misinformed view.
Romney was a neo-con in 2008. That is a far cry from conservativism, as the election in 2010 demonstrated. Conservatves ARE making a come back. Not Progressive Liberalism dressed up in neo-con clothing.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
@maskedphrogg And who's our candidate? Paul? Santorum...CAIN? I missed the meeting where us conservatives were told to lose our minds and back a person who never held office before as an alternative to a person who among other things wasn't experienced enough? SP isn't running and Gingrich is dead coming out of the gate...so who is the "conservative candidate"? This is what we have to pick from. You want to put Perry up there? Regardless of who wins the primary, Everyone needs to vote for them.
wideawake123 3 months ago
@wideawake123
Where do you get "our candidate" from?
There's 8 of them running, or is that just another fact you failed to notice?
Gingrich is dead in the water, hahahaha, tnx that was funny and I needed a good laugh.
Romney is the only candidate who cannot gain any support over time. The other candidates have traded support over time but 3/4 of registered Republicans polled consistently want a candidate other than Romney. You don't need to read TEA leaves to understand those numbers.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
@maskedphrogg Glad I could supply you with a oment of laughter. It's a shame that it's true. Go over to RCP and see how Newt polls with Independents....show us all how smart you are by explaining why how a candidate polls with independents is so important right now. Then tell me how many Republicans you will vote for Obama if Romney is the nominee. The primary season is upon us, go vote. That's all.
wideawake123 3 months ago
@wideawake123
How long do you think Independents will put up with being lied to?
I visit RealClearPolitics from time to time. I'm not too concerned with poll numbers this early in the campaign. They make for interesting salon discussions, but at this early date they aren't particularly enlightening.
If the R party were more concerned with Independents than their own they would be promoting Ron Paul, not any of the supposedly reformed neo-cons on the platter. No matter, every vote counts.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
@maskedphrogg Damn right every vote counts...and Newt's right, we have to stop the infighting and bickering from which the Obama campaign draws strength and ammunition to use against the eventual nominee. The man least likely to give the Obama camp and the MSM ammo to use against them is the same one who's basically not had one slip in any of the debates...Romney. He's the most polished campaigner and top money earner. Romney/McDonnell will be the GOP ticket. Not my 1st choice, but acceptable.
wideawake123 3 months ago
@wideawake123
How utterly ... absurd.
Obama, or Obama Lite.
No thank you.
Romney hasn't said a damn thing in the debates worth repeating. He has found it impossible to stay on topic, but that's what happens when a Progressive Liberal from a Progressive Liberal State runs on the Republican ticket. Eventually the bird has to show it's feathers.
I understand your strategy. If Romney is the R ticket then enough R voters will stay home and Obama will get re-elected by the 47%. Stealthy you're not.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
@phrogg So you'll commit national suicide and utterly destroy the republic to make a point... you'de allow the Grim Reaper 4 more yrs to choke the life out of us rather than vote for Romney? You hate America that much? Ronald Reagan isn't running in this election. The choice is, the Republican nominee, or the end of America as we knew it...and you plan to stay home? I find THAT "utterly absurd". Whatever. Vote in the primary and if your candidate doesnt win, stay home in Nov. Great strategy.
wideawake123 3 months ago
@wideawake123
You're the one rooting for Obamao. Don't come crying to me if he retains his illicit hold on the Executive Office he is not qualified to hold. The President is supposed to be a Natural Born Citizen, not a Naturalized Citizen.
btw idiot, there is one candidate that was endorsed by Ronald Reagan. But don't let facts get it in the way of your fantasy.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
@maskedphrogg whatever...your argument has reduced to name-calling. This conversation is over. I'll quote Newt from 45 seconds ago..."Mitt Romney would be an Enormous improvement over Barack Obama."
wideawake123 3 months ago
@wideawake123
(yawn)
Wake me up when you have an argument.
You have practiced nothing but name calling from your first post. Apparently you can dish it out but god forbid anyone fling it back at you. Hypocrite. That's not ad-hominem. It's an observation.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
@maskedphrogg I just reread the thread and am now prepared to call you a name for the first time. You are a Liar. Feel free to go through the thread. You're mischaractization of my discourse on this thread is disengenuous at best. A better discription: a collection of absurdities and lies. You are a liar, and you lied about me in an attempt to cover up the fact that your argument is ridiculous. I don't care what you say. Alpha and Omega, I'm voting for the republican nominee.
Goodbye
wideawake123 3 months ago
@wideawake123 No point in arguing with stupid leftists. No matter what facts you put in front of their face they will argue with them.
chuck3668831 3 months ago
@chuck3668831
Another false flagger checks in
(yawn)
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
@maskedphrogg False flagger?
chuck3668831 3 months ago
@wideawake123
Then learn to comprehend what you read.
Maybe you can repeat those RIF courses. It really is fundamental.
wake me when you quit trying to represent yourself as something you obviously are not.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
It should be Rick Santorum.
dragonpullman23 3 months ago
If the GOP gambles with Romney, another non-conservative, (as they did when they ran Dole and McCain), they can expect the same result: a Democrat in the White House. VDH is an example of why NRO has lost so many conservative readers.
rlh125 3 months ago
@uttles and russ1951
There are alternatives to those two. If you dont participate, then when its all over, SHUT THE HELL UP!! You have no right to complain!
mmasessa 3 months ago
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Umm, why no mention of Ron Paul?
WizardKing78 3 months ago
On weather one agrees with Mr. Hanson or not. He's spot on. Because another Obama term will be arsenic to America. Caster oil won't kill you. When the body's sick, it needs healing before it can be healthy again.
joelubbock 3 months ago
@joelubbock
It's Castro, not castor oil.
Don't be fooled because Mr Hanson pronounced it funny.
maskedphrogg 3 months ago
So our only choice is Obama or Obama-lite (Romney.)
I guess I just won't vote.
uttles 3 months ago
@uttles Well said!
russ1951 3 months ago
Isn't it nice to have a reasonable discussion?
zvi303 3 months ago
@MTMercilless I hope you are correct. But please, let's not set up a situation where people so sour on Romney or Perry that they stay home if they win, as in 2008.
The primary system is another thing. Ann COulter blames this on open primaries. Perhaps the Republicans in those states need to opt out of State funding, and do their own polling. Andthen all Republicans can vote in the Deocratic primary and wreck havoc. :-)
zvi303 3 months ago
@MTMercilless If, as you say, a child could beat Obama, why can't any of the candidates besides Romney come close to beating him in a head to head poll? The reality is that Obama is going to retain a huge base of support going into the election, plus the majority of the media in the tank for him. We need the candidate who is simply going to get the most votes against Obama, plain and simple. You wanna win this thing or not?
ctk777 3 months ago
@MTMercilless "I categorically disagree with...the notion of an idea spectrum..."
Imagine political philosophy as a straight line with conservativism on the right and liberalism on the left. Now imagine fascism as right of conservativism and communism as left of liberalism. Now imagine if that line were a circle, then it infers there's a point where fascism and communism are indistinguishable; That point represents Totalitarianism...!
See, this belief does defy the premise to your denial...!
DOHC2L 3 months ago
@MTMercilless Then why does Obama win or tie in one-one-one matchups? Why does the MSM get away with whitewashing OWS? Gingrich won every debate, but he is Obama's dream opponent; he specializes in digging up dirt on divorced men.
I do hope one of the real conservatives - Cain or Santorum or Bachman - gets in. (But I will not vote for a libertarian.)
zvi303 3 months ago
@zvi303
Ok, we know you will not vote for a libertarian. I personally do not want to vote for a Mormon. Would you care on what basis you categorize Santorum, Bachman, or Cain as "real conservatives"?
StopFear 3 months ago
@StopFear Well, I'm not that clear on Santorum, but I hate the terrorists who are trying to smear him. But I believe all three are social conservatives, military interventionists on the side of anti-totalitarians, and believers in the free market. None are for illegal alien rights or automatically giving 12-year-olds shots for what is a de facto STD.
Why not a Mormon? Would you vote for a pro-life religious Jew? They all have to be bona fide Christians, even if they have the right views?
zvi303 3 months ago
@zvi303
I am also against totalitarianism in other countries as well as against illegal aliens or giving them any kind of "work permits" or "working for citizenship" or giving them free education. Why not a Mormon? I will explain why I am very uneasy of a Mormon becoming a US president. When it comes to people like Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, etc, they often state they are Christian but mostly do not take it seriously. They do it because anything else is risky for them.
StopFear 3 months ago
..continued. With Mormon like Romney or Huntsman it is very different. When someone is a Mormon, especially a successful one who says he's been in the same church all his life I am pretty sure he actually does believe the Mormon teaching, public, as well as secret cryptic teachings. I've been researching cults and Mormons specifically and history of Mormons and the US government is not very good. For one, Mormons have a head prophet, who dictates what is right, 2nd they have want more power.
StopFear 3 months ago
@zvi303 They believe Mormons and their prophet head of the LDS church are the authority. One of their main goals is to spread their church all over the world and make more Mormons and they specifically deny standard protestant teachings which, in general, represent American protestants, liberal or conservative. You can count that Mormons will always be for leniency toward south American immigrants, who are their big base. They will also promote polygamy if it were ever an issue.
StopFear 3 months ago
Mittens can go to hell. We need a real conservative. Cain or Gingrich. Hell, any of them are better than Mittens.
Apollo5600 3 months ago
Romney can only seem like a bright light of conservativism in comparison to the darkness of stupid McCain. I will always despise the wretched McCain for throwing away that election. Atleast it has put an end to his constant betraying of the party to get attention.
As for Romney, no one trusts him. He is a plastic robot, if the GOP itself won't embrace him, "independents" will be even more dubious. He is not the smart moderate candidate. He is an empty unprincipled man.
VictorLepanto 3 months ago 2
Every time Ron Paul voted against pro abortion laws and supported pro life laws. Now Romney, despite being a Mormon, is pro "choice" according to his history. Of course if presented with a choice of Obama or Romney I'd pick Romney but he is not very good at all.
StopFear 3 months ago
Romney is white Obama.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@leeuniverse Alex Jones is plain crazy, don't even mention his name in one sentence with Ron Paul. Ron Paul is by all standards a conservative. Did you know that only Ron Paul has a truly pro life record? Every
StopFear 3 months ago
@StopFear There is nothing Conservative about Ron Paul. He is 100% a libertarian. Being pro-life is a perfectly good libertarian position, if you consider a fetus to be a person. Admittedly, this does remove a lot of theobjections to libertarians, since we've lost on all of the social issues anyway. But I can't support a President who won't even have American protecting the sea lanes (in theory).
zvi303 3 months ago
@zvi303
Well I can respond by saying it is "not conservative" of you to not consider fetus a person. I do not naively believe that Ron Paul can win, but there are many good conservative reasons to support him. With Clinton and Bush spending went way up, and even if you consider it a libertarian move to cut spending on military, many conservatives love it. Yes he is against spreading our troops in foreign territories or sending millions to foreign nations. Why is that not conservative?
StopFear 3 months ago
@StopFear Who said I don't consider a fetus a person? (Actually, my position is a bit more complicated, but I didn't state it. But basically I am extremely pro-life.)
Because a Conservative will respond to an attack and not claim it was our fault. A Conservative would not be for drug legalization; if he is a strict constitutionalist, at least he woudl support banning it from crossing state lines. But mainly he seems more interested in being a social liberal than an economic one.
zvi303 3 months ago
@StopFear What scares me about Paul is that he doesn't think America has any responsibility in the world forum. What is to stop China from attacking Austrailia, for example, if the US fleet is not there? What happens if Russia decides to accompany the next flotilla to Gaza and thus open a channel for arms to flow through? We should have learned our lesson from the period before WWII, what happens when we withdraw from the world.
Note that a standing Navy was there from the beginning.
zvi303 3 months ago
@zvi303 The U.S. had two departments, from Day 1 until after WWII - the department of War and the Department of the Navy. Note the difference.
Disclosure: I live aborad.
zvi303 3 months ago
@zvi303
I don't think Ron Paul is against US involvement in foreign affairs or world forum. He follows the model of Milton Friedman who stated the one field in which federal government must have most power is military and defense. Ron Paul is not against military but current way it is used. When we put our bases in other countries we have to entangle ourselves with various shady international statues and agreements as with UN. No one says he wouldnt defend Australia or Taiwan. Cost is too high
StopFear 3 months ago
@MTMercilless Yes, very true. I like your analogy. As David Horowitz said, the left asks for the moon and then compromises towards the middle, which is half way to the moon. So you always end up getting far off to the left if you compromise with them.
scepticsteve 3 months ago
I disagree with his opinion on romney, Cain i think has the best shot at winning over body odor. Romney to lots of people represents the same old politician, for Cain is not a politician at all.
cspine333 3 months ago
@cspine333 Check the polling. Obama clobbers Cain in a head to head. The only candidate polling ahead or tied with Obama Is Romney.
ctk777 3 months ago
that GOP should have been Democrats.
Leavon 3 months ago
This is utter Bullshit, so long as people like this keep throwing that Democrat pretending to be a Republican it might actually happen and then we end up with Romney that will damage conservatism more than another four years of Obama will damage the GOP.
Leavon 3 months ago
LOVE this guy! I used to listen 2 him interviewed by Lee Rodgers on KSFO in San Francisco.
blondecrazygaijin 3 months ago
go victor
jackbawz 3 months ago
A note about the cameras, I liked the view from Mr. Hanson's right side (24p, shallower DOF) a lot more than the other 2 you're using on 29.97.
Dr. Hanson likes the concept of savior generals (Grant, Sherman, Ridgway). You should ask him his opinion on savior presidents/heads of state.
anangbhai 3 months ago
@MTMercilless I agree. Remember, he's a professor ;)
Conservatives should fight like hell to get a real conservative into strike distance of Obama. But when the primary is over they should also take ABM - Anyone But the Marxist, imho.
scepticsteve 3 months ago 10
Yep, it's really sad to me that certain conservatives namely the leftist Alex Jones/Ron Paul types feel the need to misrepresent Romney and his record. And before anyone says it, I know all the claims. But there is MORE to the story, and that is the actual truth. The only thing that he was actually a bit liberal on was Abortion, and even then he wasn't actually liberal, he simply wasn't going to interfere with what already was a legal right. Me, Reagan, Cain, and others all changed the same.
leeuniverse 3 months ago 3
@leeuniverse Ron Paul isn't a leftist, though. just a constitutionalist.
Ravengaurd6 3 months ago
@Ravengaurd6 Once you get into extreme Right Wingism, i.e. anarchy, you start to have leftist ideology's. Anti-war, drugs egal, unfair criticism of conservatives, etc. are leftist behavior and ideology's. While I would agree he's not the extreme of Alex Jones types, and certainly agree he's great on constitutional issues, there are some flaws in his ideology, which is why I'm a Conservative and not a Libertarian. Liberty can be taken to an extreme and perversion, which is liberal domain.
leeuniverse 3 months ago
@leeuniverse what are the flaws you see?
Ravengaurd6 3 months ago
@leeuniverse "Once you get into extreme Right Wingism, i.e. anarchy, you start to have leftist ideology's."
No, anarchy is not right-wing. Imagine political philosophy as a straight line with conservativism on the right and liberalism on the left. Now imagine fascism as right of conservativism and communism as left of liberalism. Now imagine if that line were a circle, then it infers there's a point where fascism and communism are indistinguishable; That point represents Totalitarianism...!
DOHC2L 3 months ago
@DOHC2L This is very true. Anarchy is the means for the dictator to take over (after killing the anarchists), not the end.
zvi303 3 months ago
@leeuniverse "there are some flaws in his ideology, which is why I'm a Conservative and not a Libertarian. Liberty can be taken to an extreme and perversion, which is liberal domain."
I agree. Libertarians tend to be weak on foreign policy and social issues. Why? Because the Constitution doesn't dictate foreign policy or social values. Libertarians are naive in believing the Constitution can be liberally interpreted to believe radical ideas like abortion 'rights' or drug legalization.
DOHC2L 3 months ago