well there is one hindu sect called bishnois who r even bigger and more fanatic vegeterians,animal protectors and environmentalists than d jains,there fanaticism crosses all levels,i appreciate both bishnoi and jainism as d 2 true religions of peace
I am going to begin the Santhara tomorrow even though I am only 27. I have no responsibilities, ambitions, or goals left. I look forward to embracing this peaceful time.
that's because part of muslim faith is imposing muslim faith on non-muslims. such impolite, overbearing behavior, while standard in the west and middle east, is frowned upon in india.
Hello I have Now felled that which dont knew about Jainism there leaving bad comments due to these guys dont know Principles of Jainism & I think so If once any body read Principles then 100% they can't live without these Princiles.....
I have lots of lots Proud to be a Jain............
I believe all human beings should unite and abandone hatred. And if we do not agree on some toopics we steer away from that topic but respect one another. We don't know how long our earth can survive so why not join hands to make our world a more peaceful place to live ?
Hello Mr. who person says to you there nothing word of God in Jainism actually We Belive God is not as Creater or Distroter of Universe but any body can be God (Way to get Freedom)
i would not reply in wikipedia because they are usually heavily edited by people that support a certain view.
jains grossly misrepresent some parts of history regarding jainism in wikipedia. for example, they make claims such as "jainism was the religion of indus valley" yet most scholars don't support this. they also say that jainism has had the most influence in all of asia, really?
they also say that jainism influenced hinduism and buddhism but don't mention the counter influence.
To me talking comparing religions is shit.. Just open up what each has to say and try to rationalize, that makes more sense then claiming which religion great and which is not.
For your information the vedas do mention about naked ascetics which are believed to be Jain monks by historians.
It had a great influence during Chandra Gupta maurya times.. It is believed that he renounced his life and became a Jain monk. Now that is fact that you can look up in history books, not only wikipedia:)
your reply doesn't even answer my question but ok. you keep talking about logic and I think my logic was sound. yours on the other hand makes no sense it all.
who's comparing religions? it's you who is claing thar hinduism took concepts from jainism (which no evidence of course) and yet you accuse the hindu of trying to do the same.
@ ashukasama so I'm glad you admit there are some jain criminals. wonderful excuse isn't it that whoever is a jain that commits a crime is not a jain samething goes for christian priests who molest children?
No doubt, if you commit crime, you are not following jain theory, jain is not relegion, it way of life, how much you can avoid non violence, so dont make comments to theory of jain
Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Zoroastrian(Parsi), Bahaii, Ahmadiyya and Sufi are Dharmic religions. 900+ Million Hindus respect and admire Jains. Jainism & Buddhism are the most peaceful religions of the world.
Holydesk Jainism is not prominent in Gujarat and it never was. I bet u are not even 1% if the Gujarati population. Seriously are you people mad that you have to pull hair out of your head, walk around naked and murder Hindu priests???
what r u a jain? if it is the most stupid thing u heard prove its not the case. I don't know shit so u trying to say jains make up a population in gujarat and these weirdos don't murder Hindu priests. I've got facts.
U r retarded, I must say. The most violent religions i. You confusing the muslims with jains, state the reason for you being a crackhead. Jainsm is a religion based on the concept of non-violence, and is famous for it. Regarding the population, to quote wiki: "jains....concentrated in the states of Gujarat, Karnataka, Maharashtra, and Rajasthan." and "while Jains form over 1.0%" (Gujrat religion). I've got the fact, you don't. So fuck of, cunt.
no sorry if your relying on wikipedia than ur truly retarded. In wikipedia it claims that Hinduism copied from jainism. Yes the most violent religion is islam but jainism is quite close. THE FIRST MISSIONARY RELIGION IN THE WORLD WAS JAINISM PLUS IT USED TO DESTROY HINDU TEMPLES AND MURDER HINDU PRIESTS LIKE TYING THEM TO A ROCK AND THROWING THEM INTO THE OCEAN.
Hahaha. This must be the most stupid I have every read. I have proved you wrong twice now, and even based the replies on sources, but you keep writing bull shit. Seriously, show me some proof. You have basically relied to me that you don't know a shit about janism, and your knowledge about hindiusm is also inadequate. So until you get your facts right, I am not going to waste my time on something crap like you.
u haven't even answered how jainism plajarised Hinduism so yes I shouldn't be wasting my time with a retard lik u. As if u would no about HInduism?? lol. So if ur right prove that jainism is not a murderous religion LIKE I HAVE PROVED.
ko252, how many low caste dalit were slaughtered by high caste hindus to day in india ..can you answer that .and you call muslim violent . you forget marathis and norht indians, youmake me sick
how many wares and how many of todays terrorist organization are muslims involved in? How many amahdiyas (and yes, they are muslims) have been killed by other muslims? And how long have the war between sunni and shia lasted? and i am only talking about present stuff. don't press me to talk about the violent history of the mulims. both hinduism and islam are violent compared to janism.
@ko252 if jainism is famous for non violence u must be dreaming jainism is not known outside of certain parts of India plus non violence comes from Hinduism not jainism. how can a religion which tries and converts people be a religion of non violence. Even Gandhi is Hindu so jains are now known.
arnotkaling - shocked by your comments, i worried about your knowledge, Jainism is not apply to a religion it is just a your life style of each person . jainism is the way of life, its not true a single bit what you explained, if you have proof, just prove it. the guy and group of person who has commited any thing wrong with the name of jain can not be jain..
so plz dont do and hurt, because it also applied to you if sometimes you saved any one, because it again is also jain dharm.
I thought you were lost in the wind after enough of teaching i gave you above you hate monger.. But behold your deceit is not yet over. Have you been to Gujarat ever?? Seriously do you have conscious?? i dont think so, if you had you wouldnt be making up some shit like that
arnotkaling you have lost your mind and got your facts all wrong. jains are non-violent they have not destroyed any hindu stuff. infact it was a jain monk who was thrown into the ocean by hindus fanatics in tamil nadu.
Now you have the deceit to say that Hindus were throwing Jains into the ocean. Jains firslty plajarised everything from Hinduism and is a weird religion with NO GOD. Show me the proof Hindus threw Jains into the oceans. If Hindus wanted to we could throw all jains into the ocean right now.
I agree with arnot there is not much of point to discuss about something that can not be proved. But I am still waiting to hear from arnot about what exactly was pilagrised from hinduism. A religion not having god is not neccesarily weird. Jainism considers every pure soul reverential. Now that might be out of your limits of understanding.
Jainism is about rational thinking and hope arnot would get some of it when he reads my rebuttals below.
I wonder what would happen if jains were in power in india when the muslims attacked. There would be no such thing as jains right now if that were the case.
India supposedly got freedom using non-violent struggle and Martin Luther King did the same for civil rights. Gandhi was greatly influnced with jainism. It is historically documented that akbar gave up hunting and non-vegetarian food after his debate with jain monks. Also did u ever got to know why Alexander stopped his expansion in India??
Yes I've heard about Gandhi getting influenced by the jainism but thats a load of crap. Ghandi learned this ahimsa from a Tamil not a Jain. ha ha Alexander stopped his invasion because Porus(Hindu) successfully defeated Alexander, go watch the movie Alexander. I don't know about Akbar but there were hardly any Jains during his time just like today.
so you want to refute history now. Alexander was not defeated by Porus. In fact he lost.
Go read history.
Gandhi was a gujju and jainism is very prominent in gujrat. go read history again.
Tell you what you are full of self deceit none of arguments turn out to be factual or rational but you seem to talk ill about something that you know nothing about. Try to be self critical it will do you good.
these murderous jain thugs are keeping now because they are pussy minority. But when they were a bit bigger before they used to murder hIndu priests and try and convert Hindus.
I bet your a Jain. Go read some history if you don't understand some simple facts. Lets see how many Hindu temples were destroyed by Jains. For example one Tamil was thrown into the ocean and tied to a rock by jain terrorists but prayed to Shiva and was saved. So much for jainism. jainism is nothing it is just plajarised from Hinduism.
It would be good for you if u covert out of that filthy murderous religion which is even more murderous than buddhism.
I am curious?? which part of history is it in?? Its convinent to create illusions and live with things that furthers our prejudices.. can you illustarte more on what was pillagrised.. as far as i know there is fundamental difference, both Jainism and buddhishm are rational.
U want to know what Jainism plajarised. What now u jains are that desparate?? Lets see reincarnation, karma, philosophy, temples etc etc all copied from Buddhism. another thing buddhists don't even like you jains they follow the middle way. At least Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu not a crap like Mahavir.
for ur kind information Buddhist scripture mentions about nigatha's which is indeed mahavira and parasnath. Jainism is older then buddhism and both flourished as contemporary in same period. so to say it was pilagrised is nothing less then absurd.
I am still waiting to hear from you about what was pilagrised from hinduism. Grow up dude and follow nonviolence in thought it will atleast help you become rational.
are you an idiot or a retard. My whole previous comment gave examples what jains plajarised from Hinduism like reincarnation, karma, philosophy, temples. Even the name Mahavir is a Hindu name. You tell me about rational thought then lets see in your Jain religion does it have any scientific facts in the Vedas it clearly states that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. And another point IN JAINISM WHO CREATED THE WORLD?
read ur comments, you mentioned karma,etc was pilagrised from buddhism now u r telling it was from hinduism. You are a idiot you dont seem to understand what u r talking and you cannot hold a discussion without stooping to personal attacks.
for your information first four vedas(rig,etc) have no mention of karma and if you read history of hinduism well it was hinduism which borrowed these concepts from jainism and buddhism.ur wrong again.
Universe is eternal thats was jainism says. Jainism has 11 agams where it explains various things abt universe and unlike vedas it has exhaustive reasoning around it.
hinduism did not copy karma, re-incarnation, moksha from jainism nor buddhism. there is no evidence of this. these ideas flourished side by side but no religion has right to claim them. plus, youre forgetting that hinduism is not really an organized religion. for example, upanishads had a philosophy that was quite different from the vedas and so on and so on.
Well it not so much to do with the category of Upanishads are vedas i believe.. It has more to do with the time period.. The works post AD period (Mukthi period) revolve more around soul and karma.. while the older ones (vedas and earlier Upanishads) are more around Indra and yagnas.. You can find the evidence of influence if you consider it in the context of when things happened as I described above..
no, even the earliest upanishads mention the concept of karma, re-incarnation and moksha etc... and this does not it all mean they were adopted from jainism. there is no such evidence. your views are heavily colored and do not relfect scholarly view.
Buddhist scriptures amply demonstrate that Buddha thought there was middle path possible to attain true knowledge enlightenment, one between Jainism and Hinduism. Jainism being more rigorous on one's self. Infact it is documented that he was naked for a while wandered empty stomach and did great penance but it took his focus out of enlightenment and he felt he could better concentrate when he was relaxed that his the whole sitting under the ashoka tree;s logic emerged
this youre actually right about but that has nothing to do with central concepts suck as karma, re-incarnation, moksha etc.... what buddhism did the choose the middle path in sense of-jainism rejected social life, hinduism advocated social life and buddhism chose the middle path.
and you made the comment earlier about jainism coming before buddhism, and since buddhism has a lot in common witj jainism, does this mean it took from jainism? or are you being specifically bias towards hindus here? i mean there seems to be quite a view jains entiertaining such views as "buddhism stole from jains". i would not be surprised if you made the same ridiculous claims. under your logic, you should though.
you accuse me of deceit lol. trying to defend evil jainism with your hippy nonsense is deceit. I don't need to go to Gujarat to know the evils of jainism.
why are you putting down jains? you sound like an insecure dumb ass. evil people exist in all religions but i dont see jains murdering people like hindus, muslims and even buddhists do.
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jainism is a murderous religion that is pretending to be a peaceful religion because now they are a pathetic tiny minority. This wasn't the case about a thousand years ago when jains used to murder Hindu priests. 'hindus murdering' lol when was this, otherwise hindus would have killed jains for all the problems they have caused.
Adhi Sankararcharya annhialated Jains in philosophical arguments. Just accept it and convert to Hinduism and you will attain salvation. jainism is a bogus religion inventeb by a bogus who wanted to be famous.
fuck jainism a plajarised religion from Hindus. What weirdos who don't have a God. ha ha ha jainism is so shit it is only followed by Indians ha ha ha.
Periods of fasting is a cornerstone in nearly every religion, from Christianity to Islam to Buddhism to Hinduism in addition to Jainism - it's meant to create temperance of the mind.
So you're condoning starvation to the point of death? Within other religions it's much different. For example, during Ramadan if it is affecting their health or they are ill they stop. If you are religious then you can show you're devotion etc. without killing yourself
Jains run most goushallas to save cows from being slaughtered
Jains don't belive in cast system
Jains have never been Zionist
Jains in history till date have never asked for any sort of reservation (education,politics or otherwise) for being a minority in india
Jains respect their women highly
Jains are as patriotic as any other indian if not more
Of all the NRIs almost 35% are Jain and doing well for their new countries
108KP 7 months ago
Jains are veggies and many have also become vegan
Jains belive in maximum possible harmony between all living beings
Jains respect all religions
108KP 7 months ago
Jains are almost 2% of Indias population and pay 27% of the total Tax
Jains have a literacy rate of 97% which is the highest for any religion in India
The only religion which has never used any kind of voilence till date to spread their religion
108KP 7 months ago
well there is one hindu sect called bishnois who r even bigger and more fanatic vegeterians,animal protectors and environmentalists than d jains,there fanaticism crosses all levels,i appreciate both bishnoi and jainism as d 2 true religions of peace
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DreamsofMajesty 10 months ago
I am going to begin the Santhara tomorrow even though I am only 27. I have no responsibilities, ambitions, or goals left. I look forward to embracing this peaceful time.
zodawg0079 11 months ago 2
I used to buy shotguns from this Jain guy in my village, these people are really cool.
Shriner66 1 year ago
Jai jinendra. I am a western Jain. I love Jainism and it's teachings of ahimsa. This teaching would bring peace to the world. Aleksei
AlekseiRatel 1 year ago
without using words, this video def. seemed to be critical of Jainism by spending so much time on emaciated elderly people.
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Jainism is the way forward
Basically for you foreigners, you should see Jainism like a clan. You will never hear/see a Jain that is a rickshaw/auto driver
Most Jains have respectable jobs either being doctors/engineers/government official, etc. Also a lot of Jains live abroad to like me
Jai Jinendra
ladhkay 1 year ago
I noticed more of the Jains in this video look gravely skinny, is stravation apart of their customs?
rkslperez 2 years ago
Glorious India... :-\ Other than Muslims, almost no one have any trouble living together...
EsotericDesi 3 years ago 3
that's because part of muslim faith is imposing muslim faith on non-muslims. such impolite, overbearing behavior, while standard in the west and middle east, is frowned upon in india.
SeanNaNaNa 2 years ago
Jains constitute 0.42% population of india . But 24%of total total tax of india are paid by jains...Wo jains rock
anupamsoni999 3 years ago 12
Jai Jinendra
Good keep it up......
nipunjain999 2 years ago
Hello I have Now felled that which dont knew about Jainism there leaving bad comments due to these guys dont know Principles of Jainism & I think so If once any body read Principles then 100% they can't live without these Princiles.....
I have lots of lots Proud to be a Jain............
nipunjain999 2 years ago
Pride invites violence. If you are actually a Jain you should be aware of this. Don't invite conflict.
fuzzywzhe 2 years ago
@anupamsoni999 hi, just wondering based on what you say janis people pay 24% of tax in india.... are they considered the richest or elite of india ?
OnceUponAtimeInLeb 1 year ago
@anupamsoni999 akamustang@att.net...my mother named me after this religion...am going to delve deeper into it
jain123ize 9 months ago
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@anupamsoni999 akamustang@att.net...my mother named me after this religion...am going to delve deeper into it my name is JAIN
jain123ize 9 months ago
Beautiful presentation...thank you.
BigDink57 3 years ago
I believe all human beings should unite and abandone hatred. And if we do not agree on some toopics we steer away from that topic but respect one another. We don't know how long our earth can survive so why not join hands to make our world a more peaceful place to live ?
VR2UNA 3 years ago
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oppvu 3 years ago
Jain never say i want to bcom a god there is nothing such a word god in jainism :D
TJSKULL52 2 years ago
Jai Jinendra
Hello Mr. who person says to you there nothing word of God in Jainism actually We Belive God is not as Creater or Distroter of Universe but any body can be God (Way to get Freedom)
nipunjain999 2 years ago
I know Better what god Means in Jainism
M jain i was talking about it like that =)
TJSKULL52 2 years ago
friends, hold on we hindus, jains and buddhists should be united against muslim and christian fundamentalism/terrorism.
no doubt hindu, jain and buddism are the religion of this soil.
you may be musim or chritian today! but your father, or grand father or grand grand father was a hindu or jain or buddist!
parswanatha 3 years ago 4
your last point isnt right.
Ko252 3 years ago
What's the religion of Pol Pot (the eastern killer). If he is neither a Christian nor Muslim, don't say so, to make peace! Thanks.
WalkLongParkDogore 3 years ago
True, but bitter
iindikaa 2 years ago
its really amazing & heart touching video
5 stars by me...
deveshjaindelhi 3 years ago 2
ALL: As everyone knows Jain people are non violent people.So please while commenting also ensure that you dont hurt anybody.
chouguleraj 3 years ago 4
You are Right & this our Jain Person thinking also showing Difference between Jainism (way to get freedom) & other peoples.......
Great I proud be a Jain
Jai Jinendra
nipunjain999 2 years ago
i would not reply in wikipedia because they are usually heavily edited by people that support a certain view.
jains grossly misrepresent some parts of history regarding jainism in wikipedia. for example, they make claims such as "jainism was the religion of indus valley" yet most scholars don't support this. they also say that jainism has had the most influence in all of asia, really?
they also say that jainism influenced hinduism and buddhism but don't mention the counter influence.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
i meant, i would not rely on wikipedia
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
To me talking comparing religions is shit.. Just open up what each has to say and try to rationalize, that makes more sense then claiming which religion great and which is not.
For your information the vedas do mention about naked ascetics which are believed to be Jain monks by historians.
It had a great influence during Chandra Gupta maurya times.. It is believed that he renounced his life and became a Jain monk. Now that is fact that you can look up in history books, not only wikipedia:)
Holydesk 3 years ago
your reply doesn't even answer my question but ok. you keep talking about logic and I think my logic was sound. yours on the other hand makes no sense it all.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
oh the great scholar :P
TJSKULL52 2 years ago
who's comparing religions? it's you who is claing thar hinduism took concepts from jainism (which no evidence of course) and yet you accuse the hindu of trying to do the same.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
It was a hindu fanatic arnot who said it jainism copied concept of karma. Which i dont believe is the case.
If you care to read enough here is what i mentioned for your quote indus valley
"For your information the vedas do mention about naked ascetics which are believed to be Jain monks by historians."
People can do anything extend their prejudices.. so i wouldnt be surprised..
Holydesk 3 years ago
bullshit- they are the agents of imperialism.
londoniran 3 years ago
@ ashukasama so I'm glad you admit there are some jain criminals. wonderful excuse isn't it that whoever is a jain that commits a crime is not a jain samething goes for christian priests who molest children?
arnotkaling 3 years ago
No doubt, if you commit crime, you are not following jain theory, jain is not relegion, it way of life, how much you can avoid non violence, so dont make comments to theory of jain
ashukasama 3 years ago 3
how can you call Jain a sect? This relligion is older than Budhism.
magoymaestro 4 years ago
Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Zoroastrian(Parsi), Bahaii, Ahmadiyya and Sufi are Dharmic religions. 900+ Million Hindus respect and admire Jains. Jainism & Buddhism are the most peaceful religions of the world.
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Holydesk Jainism is not prominent in Gujarat and it never was. I bet u are not even 1% if the Gujarati population. Seriously are you people mad that you have to pull hair out of your head, walk around naked and murder Hindu priests???
arnotkaling 4 years ago
This is the most stupid thing I ever heard. Seriously, what do you know about Janism? Regarding what you write, you don't know a shit.
So f...ing shut the hell up, crackhead
Ko252 4 years ago
what r u a jain? if it is the most stupid thing u heard prove its not the case. I don't know shit so u trying to say jains make up a population in gujarat and these weirdos don't murder Hindu priests. I've got facts.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
U r retarded, I must say. The most violent religions i. You confusing the muslims with jains, state the reason for you being a crackhead. Jainsm is a religion based on the concept of non-violence, and is famous for it. Regarding the population, to quote wiki: "jains....concentrated in the states of Gujarat, Karnataka, Maharashtra, and Rajasthan." and "while Jains form over 1.0%" (Gujrat religion). I've got the fact, you don't. So fuck of, cunt.
Ko252 4 years ago
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no sorry if your relying on wikipedia than ur truly retarded. In wikipedia it claims that Hinduism copied from jainism. Yes the most violent religion is islam but jainism is quite close. THE FIRST MISSIONARY RELIGION IN THE WORLD WAS JAINISM PLUS IT USED TO DESTROY HINDU TEMPLES AND MURDER HINDU PRIESTS LIKE TYING THEM TO A ROCK AND THROWING THEM INTO THE OCEAN.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
Hahaha. This must be the most stupid I have every read. I have proved you wrong twice now, and even based the replies on sources, but you keep writing bull shit. Seriously, show me some proof. You have basically relied to me that you don't know a shit about janism, and your knowledge about hindiusm is also inadequate. So until you get your facts right, I am not going to waste my time on something crap like you.
Ko252 4 years ago
u haven't even answered how jainism plajarised Hinduism so yes I shouldn't be wasting my time with a retard lik u. As if u would no about HInduism?? lol. So if ur right prove that jainism is not a murderous religion LIKE I HAVE PROVED.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
ko252, how many low caste dalit were slaughtered by high caste hindus to day in india ..can you answer that .and you call muslim violent . you forget marathis and norht indians, youmake me sick
fijiman123 4 years ago
how many wares and how many of todays terrorist organization are muslims involved in? How many amahdiyas (and yes, they are muslims) have been killed by other muslims? And how long have the war between sunni and shia lasted? and i am only talking about present stuff. don't press me to talk about the violent history of the mulims. both hinduism and islam are violent compared to janism.
Ko252 4 years ago
all youhave to do is read times of india to see what hindus are doing to each other
fijiman123 4 years ago
all you have to do are think about iraq, afghanistan and pakistan.
Ko252 4 years ago 2
@ko252 if jainism is famous for non violence u must be dreaming jainism is not known outside of certain parts of India plus non violence comes from Hinduism not jainism. how can a religion which tries and converts people be a religion of non violence. Even Gandhi is Hindu so jains are now known.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
arnotkaling - shocked by your comments, i worried about your knowledge, Jainism is not apply to a religion it is just a your life style of each person . jainism is the way of life, its not true a single bit what you explained, if you have proof, just prove it. the guy and group of person who has commited any thing wrong with the name of jain can not be jain..
so plz dont do and hurt, because it also applied to you if sometimes you saved any one, because it again is also jain dharm.
tnx , tc
ashukasama 3 years ago
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I gave proof and now since you have nothing to say your trying to make things up?
jainism is not peaceful it has a history of murdering HIndu priests.
arnotkaling 3 years ago
ohh..... arnotkaling.
don't try to blame a Jain.
your all comments are crap, so guys it humble request to declare his post as spam , it is spam ... only spam...
arnotkaling
the lines you mention is crap
can you prove your comments,
i know you can not prove it......... ha ha ha ha..
another thing why didn't u accept that Jaisim is non violence....
Stop these crap things.
ashukasama 3 years ago
just proves you can't accept the evidence. you can try to dodge it but history is history.
arnotkaling 3 years ago
oh think whatever u wwanna think
but gandhi's mother es jain :P
TJSKULL52 2 years ago
I thought you were lost in the wind after enough of teaching i gave you above you hate monger.. But behold your deceit is not yet over. Have you been to Gujarat ever?? Seriously do you have conscious?? i dont think so, if you had you wouldnt be making up some shit like that
Holydesk 3 years ago
arnotkaling you have lost your mind and got your facts all wrong. jains are non-violent they have not destroyed any hindu stuff. infact it was a jain monk who was thrown into the ocean by hindus fanatics in tamil nadu.
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Now you have the deceit to say that Hindus were throwing Jains into the ocean. Jains firslty plajarised everything from Hinduism and is a weird religion with NO GOD. Show me the proof Hindus threw Jains into the oceans. If Hindus wanted to we could throw all jains into the ocean right now.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
I agree with arnot there is not much of point to discuss about something that can not be proved. But I am still waiting to hear from arnot about what exactly was pilagrised from hinduism. A religion not having god is not neccesarily weird. Jainism considers every pure soul reverential. Now that might be out of your limits of understanding.
Jainism is about rational thinking and hope arnot would get some of it when he reads my rebuttals below.
Holydesk 4 years ago 2
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I wonder what would happen if jains were in power in india when the muslims attacked. There would be no such thing as jains right now if that were the case.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
India supposedly got freedom using non-violent struggle and Martin Luther King did the same for civil rights. Gandhi was greatly influnced with jainism. It is historically documented that akbar gave up hunting and non-vegetarian food after his debate with jain monks. Also did u ever got to know why Alexander stopped his expansion in India??
Holydesk 4 years ago
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Yes I've heard about Gandhi getting influenced by the jainism but thats a load of crap. Ghandi learned this ahimsa from a Tamil not a Jain. ha ha Alexander stopped his invasion because Porus(Hindu) successfully defeated Alexander, go watch the movie Alexander. I don't know about Akbar but there were hardly any Jains during his time just like today.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
so you want to refute history now. Alexander was not defeated by Porus. In fact he lost.
Go read history.
Gandhi was a gujju and jainism is very prominent in gujrat. go read history again.
Tell you what you are full of self deceit none of arguments turn out to be factual or rational but you seem to talk ill about something that you know nothing about. Try to be self critical it will do you good.
Holydesk 4 years ago
these murderous jain thugs are keeping now because they are pussy minority. But when they were a bit bigger before they used to murder hIndu priests and try and convert Hindus.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
oh really.. and which of part of history is it in?? grow up dude
Holydesk 4 years ago
I bet your a Jain. Go read some history if you don't understand some simple facts. Lets see how many Hindu temples were destroyed by Jains. For example one Tamil was thrown into the ocean and tied to a rock by jain terrorists but prayed to Shiva and was saved. So much for jainism. jainism is nothing it is just plajarised from Hinduism.
It would be good for you if u covert out of that filthy murderous religion which is even more murderous than buddhism.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
I am curious?? which part of history is it in?? Its convinent to create illusions and live with things that furthers our prejudices.. can you illustarte more on what was pillagrised.. as far as i know there is fundamental difference, both Jainism and buddhishm are rational.
Holydesk 4 years ago
U want to know what Jainism plajarised. What now u jains are that desparate?? Lets see reincarnation, karma, philosophy, temples etc etc all copied from Buddhism. another thing buddhists don't even like you jains they follow the middle way. At least Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu not a crap like Mahavir.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
for ur kind information Buddhist scripture mentions about nigatha's which is indeed mahavira and parasnath. Jainism is older then buddhism and both flourished as contemporary in same period. so to say it was pilagrised is nothing less then absurd.
I am still waiting to hear from you about what was pilagrised from hinduism. Grow up dude and follow nonviolence in thought it will atleast help you become rational.
Holydesk 4 years ago
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are you an idiot or a retard. My whole previous comment gave examples what jains plajarised from Hinduism like reincarnation, karma, philosophy, temples. Even the name Mahavir is a Hindu name. You tell me about rational thought then lets see in your Jain religion does it have any scientific facts in the Vedas it clearly states that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. And another point IN JAINISM WHO CREATED THE WORLD?
arnotkaling 4 years ago
read ur comments, you mentioned karma,etc was pilagrised from buddhism now u r telling it was from hinduism. You are a idiot you dont seem to understand what u r talking and you cannot hold a discussion without stooping to personal attacks.
for your information first four vedas(rig,etc) have no mention of karma and if you read history of hinduism well it was hinduism which borrowed these concepts from jainism and buddhism.ur wrong again.
Holydesk 4 years ago
Universe is eternal thats was jainism says. Jainism has 11 agams where it explains various things abt universe and unlike vedas it has exhaustive reasoning around it.
Holydesk 4 years ago
hinduism did not copy karma, re-incarnation, moksha from jainism nor buddhism. there is no evidence of this. these ideas flourished side by side but no religion has right to claim them. plus, youre forgetting that hinduism is not really an organized religion. for example, upanishads had a philosophy that was quite different from the vedas and so on and so on.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
Well it not so much to do with the category of Upanishads are vedas i believe.. It has more to do with the time period.. The works post AD period (Mukthi period) revolve more around soul and karma.. while the older ones (vedas and earlier Upanishads) are more around Indra and yagnas.. You can find the evidence of influence if you consider it in the context of when things happened as I described above..
Holydesk 3 years ago
no, even the earliest upanishads mention the concept of karma, re-incarnation and moksha etc... and this does not it all mean they were adopted from jainism. there is no such evidence. your views are heavily colored and do not relfect scholarly view.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
WRONG. the upanishads carried these concepts as early as 900 BC. the AD period is a another matter.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
i dont agree with the hindu fanatic below me but if jainism is older then buddhism , then under your logic, buddhism must have copied from buddhism?
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
Buddhist scriptures amply demonstrate that Buddha thought there was middle path possible to attain true knowledge enlightenment, one between Jainism and Hinduism. Jainism being more rigorous on one's self. Infact it is documented that he was naked for a while wandered empty stomach and did great penance but it took his focus out of enlightenment and he felt he could better concentrate when he was relaxed that his the whole sitting under the ashoka tree;s logic emerged
Holydesk 3 years ago
this youre actually right about but that has nothing to do with central concepts suck as karma, re-incarnation, moksha etc.... what buddhism did the choose the middle path in sense of-jainism rejected social life, hinduism advocated social life and buddhism chose the middle path.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
and you made the comment earlier about jainism coming before buddhism, and since buddhism has a lot in common witj jainism, does this mean it took from jainism? or are you being specifically bias towards hindus here? i mean there seems to be quite a view jains entiertaining such views as "buddhism stole from jains". i would not be surprised if you made the same ridiculous claims. under your logic, you should though.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
you accuse me of deceit lol. trying to defend evil jainism with your hippy nonsense is deceit. I don't need to go to Gujarat to know the evils of jainism.
arnotkaling 3 years ago
why are you putting down jains? you sound like an insecure dumb ass. evil people exist in all religions but i dont see jains murdering people like hindus, muslims and even buddhists do.
kemeticsungod221 3 years ago
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jainism is a murderous religion that is pretending to be a peaceful religion because now they are a pathetic tiny minority. This wasn't the case about a thousand years ago when jains used to murder Hindu priests. 'hindus murdering' lol when was this, otherwise hindus would have killed jains for all the problems they have caused.
arnotkaling 3 years ago
lolz jains murdered hindu priests
O_o
may be in ur dreams
and you wer der to see all this :P
TJSKULL52 2 years ago
ALL: As everyone knows Jain people are non violent people.So please while commenting also ensure that you dont hurt anybody.
chouguleraj 3 years ago
Jainism is older than Buddhism and Siddharta (Buddha) was probably influenced by jainism.
oscario73 4 years ago 4
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Adhi Sankararcharya annhialated Jains in philosophical arguments. Just accept it and convert to Hinduism and you will attain salvation. jainism is a bogus religion inventeb by a bogus who wanted to be famous.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
and what were the arguments?? do you know them, if no how can you vouch if they were right or wrong.
I am not here to compare 2 religions and to me it doesnt make sense, but u seemed to be inclined to rubbish jainism without knowing nothing abt it.
Holydesk 4 years ago
fuck jainism a plajarised religion from Hindus. What weirdos who don't have a God. ha ha ha jainism is so shit it is only followed by Indians ha ha ha.
arnotkaling 4 years ago
fuck off asshole!
bittoo 4 years ago
I am so glad to be a Jain!
bungbond123 4 years ago
i am proud of JAINISM.
rohitkj 4 years ago
he's naked because he's freed himself from owning material posessions. it's not uncivilized. your comment is rather uncivilized.
bjs261 4 years ago 3
y the religious guru is naked? what an uncivilized holy crap
darkan79 4 years ago
in the jain religion they fast until they die, theres nothing super about it, just shows how religion can warp peoples minds
amac365 4 years ago
amac365, I would suggest you do your homework...
Periods of fasting is a cornerstone in nearly every religion, from Christianity to Islam to Buddhism to Hinduism in addition to Jainism - it's meant to create temperance of the mind.
Partholemew 4 years ago
So you're condoning starvation to the point of death? Within other religions it's much different. For example, during Ramadan if it is affecting their health or they are ill they stop. If you are religious then you can show you're devotion etc. without killing yourself
amac365 4 years ago
i wish every religion would be so peacefull like this and buddhism
ptdh 4 years ago 2
simply super
dckjain 4 years ago 3
Awesome...world should learn from them...
abhishekjainrinku 4 years ago 3
hats off to all these ppl
shrenik30 5 years ago 3
Correction its Jain religion, not sect.
bittoo 5 years ago 3
Beautiful.
Satyakrishna 5 years ago 3