Dear god, what kind of world is it that America votes TWICE to elect a man so fucking stupid even Noam Chomsky thinks "he must be taught to mispronounce those words" as part of a big conspiracy??!!!!
What I love about him is that he makes no suppositions on how to solve the problems he presents. It's almost like he avoids saying for sure, "This is how to take care of this issue" because he wants people to understand the heart of the issue, at its deepest core, so that they'll make their own decision, and so that their decision will be more thoroughly understood and well-reasoned.
you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
Bush is an idiot and he embarrassed himself, he wasn't acting. He talked that way at Yale and got a free ride because of who his daddy was. Like McCain he was a poor student and never would have seen the cockpit of an airplane if he wasn't extended favors.
polarising?....not in the slightest. May SOUND "polarising" because we're so inundated with bullshit 24/7 that anyone speaking the truth every so gently is considered a problem maker...as all truthful critics throughout history have been considered polemicists. As a reaction alone to all the crap spewn out there, he or anyone would be justified. Chomsky on the other hand is incredibly restrained. Propagandizing? When you come back to planet earth we can have a serious discussion, he's just spea.
polarising?....not in the slightest. May SOUND "polarising" because we're so inundated with bullshit 24/7 that anyone speaking the truth every so gently is considered a problem maker...as all truthful critics throughout history have been considered polemicists. As a reaction alone to all the crap spewn out there, he or anyone would be justified. Chomsky on the other hand is incredibly restrained.
The core idea may be right but his language forces all the wrong conclusions. He is much better when he uses less polarising language and stronger images.
How anyone cannot see the propaganda and mass media control is just blind,don't really need someone to point it out,but good to know someone speaking out about it,great video thank you.
I think Chomsky is more important than popular scientists like Dawkins because he exhibits ceaseless critical thought or the ability to see the coherency and cogency of a position without accepting it. The exhaltation of science or of reason or whatever, is secondary and fruitless. Whatever man puts his mind to, critical thought should be the rule.
ive been saying it for a while...we were SUPPOSED to think bush was stupid. like chomsky says "i doubt he talked like that at Yale" its all a show folks...
Listen to the lies of notorious left-wing political pervert Noam Chomsky who praised Pol Pot's leadership and fawned over every Communist/Marxist dictator since Stalin
The world has many good reasons to hate the USA. The US invasion/occupation of Iraq has caused over a million people (including hundreds of thousands of children & women) to be killed, & a million+ crippled. There is no remorse.
Because of what the pentagon does, the USA is viewed as a big bully - like a rich, spoiled teenager on steroids.
"Without sharing there can be no justice; without justice there can be no peace; without peace there can be no future."
Also, Bush could be a 14th generation clone and actually that dumb. You know he wasn't that much of a boob in college. Or if you listen to his speeches as Governor of Texas. I'm convinced it's not the same guy. I think the original got too into coke and booze and had to be "silenced". We've had cloning technology since the 40"s so who knows for sure that he isn't. Obama too for that matter. Cloned Akhenaten? Mummification preserves DNA viable for cloning. Akhenaten's mummy has never been found.
True story. Goebbels gave everyone in Germany transistor radios so they could listen to Hitler 'round the clock. That kept Hitler in everyone's heads and that's one of the main reason Naziism flourished. You know there had to be some "next level shit" being pumped out to the German people for them to amass in total lockstep with one man. WOW!!!
Noam Chomsky is intelligent, and is far too paternal. Grown adults have a brain whether they use it or not. The solution to propaganda is paying attention in a critical thinking class in college.
I know what he's saying, deception isn't moral, but it exists in the world. Deception is not going away no matter how much the society is altered, ultimately the less intelligent aren't going to thrive. And that's a natural circumstance, we can't change it.
That's a fair critique, doctorkozma. I didn't clarify myself regarding critical thinking. Believing the "broken record" is a fallacy. If I said, "the sky was florescent pink yesterday" eight times, one very easily manipulated person out of a crowd might say, "alright, that seems plausible" but it isn't so. I understand how it affects society, but education leads the horse to water, and if it doesn't drink what can be done? Then there are the uneducated that didn't go to the pool at all.
Yes, We live in a society that sadly lacks an interest in understanding issues that affect them. Dogma, preaching and all forms of indoctranation, whether out right lies or the new catchword "framing the issue" are routinely used to mislead the population. I do not consider the public stupid(although some are), merely misinformed. I do expect our parents and educators to encourage thinking I do not forgive churches corporations and politicians who use these tools and understand them very well.
@drkozma Parents and educators (K-12) have zero interest in encouraging thinking.Thinking for yourself and questioning things constitutes rebellion,it's considered stepping out of line.In the home/school environments you're punished for thinking, you're subjected to verbal and emotional abuse.No parent has the agenda of undermining their own authority.Teaching a child to question things would undermine their authority.Parents always believe that they know what's best and the child should follow.
@drkozma In the workplace,thinking for yourself and questioning things will quickly get a person fired. Schools are ripe with propaganda.By design the school system produces mindless sheep who will assimilate well into the work world.I wish I could agree with you that most ppl aren't dumb, they're simply misled but that is largely untrue. Most people struggle to comprehend and retain information.This reflects stupidity by definition.The fact that most ppl are stupid makes them easier to mislead.
@fukinblowme Agreed. Your definition of stupidity is spot-on and to the point. Most people confuse "ignorance" and "stupidity" frequently. I bet your one of the few on youtube who can even get that. I applaud you.
The best thing a bout Chomsky is he doesnt even stop to acknowledge the lunacy about Reps Vs Dems, Libs/Dems, Right/Left. He exposes them all for what they are.
Isn't it ironic that he is complaining about advertising which is the free exchange of facts and/or opinions while simultaneously pushing his own agenda by advertising his own opinions? What a douche...
Hey, if you want freedom, especially freedom of speech, you need to be prepared for "hollow slogans and meaningless spark in the pan garble" it is their right to do so and to propagate that message through advertising mediums. Just as capitalism allows for greater knowledge and facts it also allows for a lot of useless garble. Deal with it that's freedom, it's not just your agenda or opinion that needs to be heard.
Brodie you put in something that he never said. He never stated that those people should be silenced. You invented that yourself. All he was doing was lecturing about their tactics.
just wanted to ask why someone who admires libertarians like Ron Paul and the works of classical liberal thinkers like Locke, Jefferson & Paine is a supporter and admirer of Chomsky?
There are certain things I don't like about Paul all three of those you mentioned (Jefferson, Paul, and Paine) all had and have different views on a number of issues.
Propaganda is a coercive means a pushing an agenda were as advertising is the free exchange of information/opinions that encourage choice. Propaganda and advertising are NOT one in the same. Chomsky seems to view humanity as weak and unable to discern fact from fiction and make our own decisions on certain opinions. Everyone knows adverts contain deception, and if the deception is dramatic enough as to affect consumer confidence in the good or service then the seller will fail in the future.
You can advertise information, opinions/ideas, deceit or truth. This is the beauty of freedom. Chomsky is rightfully advertising (selling) his opinions to us, just as corporations, books, teachers, parents and friends rightfully can. It is up to us as free & responsible individuals to discern the truth and to develop our own opinions/ideas through the diverse & free info that capitalism and a free society nurture.
socialistic totalitarian states are orwellian not capitalistic societies.
Liberal, conservative, us, them , you!!! Arrrrghh!!! All this partisan crap makes my head hurt. Want to make a difference, go outside and pick up a bag of litter, help your neighbor, volunteer at the hospital...
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Chomsky has never forgiven US for fighting and winning the Cold war. For many years, principal function of Chomky has been to discredit the nation that stood as supreme alternative to socialism. He is a useful idiot who helps European wish to use anti-Americanism to absolve them of sins of two world wars. Similarly he helps Arabs delusions that all their miseries are fault of US. He is one of the greatest proponents of Anti-Americanism in the world, that is why he is so famous in EU and Arabia.
You apparently have never actually listened to Chomsky speak at length. His main focus is not socialist but humanist and historical. He generally does not say things he has no evidence to back up. Your opinion of the EU is likewise distorted, especially considering that most of the EU nations are U.S. allies. And Chomsky does not attribute all Arab miseries to the U.S. That's a story you've made up for yourself so that you can hate the point of view of someone you know nothing about.
whoever believes that Bush is truly a bumbling retarded are decieved and retarded themselves. It's an image: Clinton: the jazz-loving swingster, Reagan: the (grand)fatherly do-gooder etc.
Dear god, what kind of world is it that America votes TWICE to elect a man so fucking stupid even Noam Chomsky thinks "he must be taught to mispronounce those words" as part of a big conspiracy??!!!!
We're all fucked.
ryko26 2 months ago
Does anyone know where this is from? full vid anywhere?
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1:19 Godwin's Law!!! Imperialism wins!
BosnianSoldier530 3 months ago
Chomsky for President
bluegreen1138 5 months ago
Bush really does speak like that and it's not an act. The only reason he got accepted to Yale was because of big poppa Bush.
testiclecrusher2 5 months ago
@testiclecrusher2 Got to agree with you on that one. It's not often Noam says something so lacking of pre-thought, but he is allowed to sometimes!
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Chomsky: the only man who can write a 200 page book on terrorism without once mentioning Islam !
vonkleve 6 months ago
What I love about him is that he makes no suppositions on how to solve the problems he presents. It's almost like he avoids saying for sure, "This is how to take care of this issue" because he wants people to understand the heart of the issue, at its deepest core, so that they'll make their own decision, and so that their decision will be more thoroughly understood and well-reasoned.
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you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
ehudnold9 7 months ago
Bush is an idiot and he embarrassed himself, he wasn't acting. He talked that way at Yale and got a free ride because of who his daddy was. Like McCain he was a poor student and never would have seen the cockpit of an airplane if he wasn't extended favors.
fukinblowme 8 months ago
I hate it when people put soundtracks to videos like these. Interesting topic though
BoutrasBoutrasGhali 10 months ago
whats with the 80s porn music in the background? Still worth watching though.
10100003 10 months ago 2
.reporting obvious truisms.
Luke43168 11 months ago
polarising?....not in the slightest. May SOUND "polarising" because we're so inundated with bullshit 24/7 that anyone speaking the truth every so gently is considered a problem maker...as all truthful critics throughout history have been considered polemicists. As a reaction alone to all the crap spewn out there, he or anyone would be justified. Chomsky on the other hand is incredibly restrained. Propagandizing? When you come back to planet earth we can have a serious discussion, he's just spea.
Luke43168 11 months ago
polarising?....not in the slightest. May SOUND "polarising" because we're so inundated with bullshit 24/7 that anyone speaking the truth every so gently is considered a problem maker...as all truthful critics throughout history have been considered polemicists. As a reaction alone to all the crap spewn out there, he or anyone would be justified. Chomsky on the other hand is incredibly restrained.
Luke43168 11 months ago
The core idea may be right but his language forces all the wrong conclusions. He is much better when he uses less polarising language and stronger images.
iiiears 11 months ago
Read Edward Bernays - he is the father of propaganda.
BTW: I think it is funny that Chomsky is propagandizing while discussing propaganda. His political bias is obvious
heathermgilbert 1 year ago
Read Edward Bernays - he is the father of propaganda.
BTW: I think it is funny that Chomsky is propagandizing while discussing propaganda. His political bias is obvious
heathermgilbert 1 year ago
How anyone cannot see the propaganda and mass media control is just blind,don't really need someone to point it out,but good to know someone speaking out about it,great video thank you.
sunflowerofpeace 1 year ago
I think Chomsky is more important than popular scientists like Dawkins because he exhibits ceaseless critical thought or the ability to see the coherency and cogency of a position without accepting it. The exhaltation of science or of reason or whatever, is secondary and fruitless. Whatever man puts his mind to, critical thought should be the rule.
clubsandwedge 1 year ago
I know he's a linguistics genius but he should really try to annunciate for fuck's sake.
metalwizard13 1 year ago
Has programming the nation been banned? I cant find this documentary anywhere!
foxyswedee 1 year ago
ive been saying it for a while...we were SUPPOSED to think bush was stupid. like chomsky says "i doubt he talked like that at Yale" its all a show folks...
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MrRobertog4 1 year ago
How come every time I listen to Chomsky, I get light-headed? It's like I can feel my mind getting blown. Lmao
DontEatEggs666 1 year ago
*THANKS* for uploading this interesting content !
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wda013 1 year ago
That's what I thought about Bush's stupid English. He's a Yankee, for Chrissakes!
motelcalifornia 1 year ago
there should be more chomsky's
more bill hicks and george carlins
More John Taylor Gattos (look him up and read his book[s] ). People who expose simple truths and help us be aware and thinking.
mikeisapro 1 year ago
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absolutely..you d think that the truth should and aught to be known hej!
RENEDU2 1 year ago
With the loss of Chomsky and people alike, the world will be more like in Idiocracy.
tulapi123 1 year ago
good video
chocobosage420 1 year ago
It's like Deus Ex.
CosmicSisyphus 1 year ago
Remove the music track...
happytyler41892 1 year ago
I listen obvjectively to what he is saying. And i have to admit he really communicates his ideas concisely. Personally i am a huge fan.
madmercenary 2 years ago 5
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Listen to the lies of notorious left-wing political pervert Noam Chomsky who praised Pol Pot's leadership and fawned over every Communist/Marxist dictator since Stalin
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The world has many good reasons to hate the USA. The US invasion/occupation of Iraq has caused over a million people (including hundreds of thousands of children & women) to be killed, & a million+ crippled. There is no remorse.
Because of what the pentagon does, the USA is viewed as a big bully - like a rich, spoiled teenager on steroids.
"Without sharing there can be no justice; without justice there can be no peace; without peace there can be no future."
Maitreya, the World Teacher
YourAreIam 2 years ago
Search NLP+Noam Chomsky.
SilverRedIndigo 2 years ago
This is an interesting page:
Political Ecology 101 Modelling Noam Chomsky by Richard Bolstad
Then search NLP+Common Purpose
SilverRedIndigo 2 years ago
Also, Bush could be a 14th generation clone and actually that dumb. You know he wasn't that much of a boob in college. Or if you listen to his speeches as Governor of Texas. I'm convinced it's not the same guy. I think the original got too into coke and booze and had to be "silenced". We've had cloning technology since the 40"s so who knows for sure that he isn't. Obama too for that matter. Cloned Akhenaten? Mummification preserves DNA viable for cloning. Akhenaten's mummy has never been found.
AceOfHeart2012 2 years ago
@AceOfHeart2012 hmmmmmmmmm hahahahahahaha
Southwestrepresent 2 years ago
True story. Goebbels gave everyone in Germany transistor radios so they could listen to Hitler 'round the clock. That kept Hitler in everyone's heads and that's one of the main reason Naziism flourished. You know there had to be some "next level shit" being pumped out to the German people for them to amass in total lockstep with one man. WOW!!!
AceOfHeart2012 2 years ago
Noam Chomsky is intelligent, and is far too paternal. Grown adults have a brain whether they use it or not. The solution to propaganda is paying attention in a critical thinking class in college.
I know what he's saying, deception isn't moral, but it exists in the world. Deception is not going away no matter how much the society is altered, ultimately the less intelligent aren't going to thrive. And that's a natural circumstance, we can't change it.
riverlioness 2 years ago
I agree but to what extent is it intention by repitition in the end a chance and hope to overide critical thinking
doctorkozma 2 years ago
That's a fair critique, doctorkozma. I didn't clarify myself regarding critical thinking. Believing the "broken record" is a fallacy. If I said, "the sky was florescent pink yesterday" eight times, one very easily manipulated person out of a crowd might say, "alright, that seems plausible" but it isn't so. I understand how it affects society, but education leads the horse to water, and if it doesn't drink what can be done? Then there are the uneducated that didn't go to the pool at all.
riverlioness 2 years ago
Yes, We live in a society that sadly lacks an interest in understanding issues that affect them. Dogma, preaching and all forms of indoctranation, whether out right lies or the new catchword "framing the issue" are routinely used to mislead the population. I do not consider the public stupid(although some are), merely misinformed. I do expect our parents and educators to encourage thinking I do not forgive churches corporations and politicians who use these tools and understand them very well.
doctorkozma 2 years ago 2
@drkozma Parents and educators (K-12) have zero interest in encouraging thinking.Thinking for yourself and questioning things constitutes rebellion,it's considered stepping out of line.In the home/school environments you're punished for thinking, you're subjected to verbal and emotional abuse.No parent has the agenda of undermining their own authority.Teaching a child to question things would undermine their authority.Parents always believe that they know what's best and the child should follow.
fukinblowme 8 months ago
@drkozma In the workplace,thinking for yourself and questioning things will quickly get a person fired. Schools are ripe with propaganda.By design the school system produces mindless sheep who will assimilate well into the work world.I wish I could agree with you that most ppl aren't dumb, they're simply misled but that is largely untrue. Most people struggle to comprehend and retain information.This reflects stupidity by definition.The fact that most ppl are stupid makes them easier to mislead.
fukinblowme 8 months ago
@fukinblowme Agreed. Your definition of stupidity is spot-on and to the point. Most people confuse "ignorance" and "stupidity" frequently. I bet your one of the few on youtube who can even get that. I applaud you.
Bodhidharma1986 8 months ago
@riverlioness remember he is talking to americans
Southwestrepresent 2 years ago
he's an anarcho-syndicalist
sugarhigh0307 2 years ago
i could listen to chomsky speak all day -- what a mind!
dancebaby808 2 years ago 47
why try to label chomsky? listen to what he says carefully. think critically about his ideas. above all, listen. dude's important.
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MrRobertog4 1 year ago
ugh, just let him talk, don't intersperse the video with annoying video clips
region1111 2 years ago 2
F*cking annoying music
YuriKenobi 3 years ago 3
It's not a music video. I think you're Fucking annoying for such an ignorant comment.
Sensoriexpansion69 3 years ago
Yes, it's not a music video, so keeping the music out of it would make more sense.
YuriKenobi 3 years ago 5
The sound is all screwed up in this video.
bapyou 3 years ago 4
The best thing a bout Chomsky is he doesnt even stop to acknowledge the lunacy about Reps Vs Dems, Libs/Dems, Right/Left. He exposes them all for what they are.
locopr1 3 years ago 2
Isn't it ironic that he is complaining about advertising which is the free exchange of facts and/or opinions while simultaneously pushing his own agenda by advertising his own opinions? What a douche...
brodie2288 3 years ago
Advertising based on what?
Evidence and issue based
or hollow slogans and meaningless spark in the pan garble?
overmind25 3 years ago
Hey, if you want freedom, especially freedom of speech, you need to be prepared for "hollow slogans and meaningless spark in the pan garble" it is their right to do so and to propagate that message through advertising mediums. Just as capitalism allows for greater knowledge and facts it also allows for a lot of useless garble. Deal with it that's freedom, it's not just your agenda or opinion that needs to be heard.
brodie2288 3 years ago
Brodie you put in something that he never said. He never stated that those people should be silenced. You invented that yourself. All he was doing was lecturing about their tactics.
overmind25 3 years ago 4
overmind25
just wanted to ask why someone who admires libertarians like Ron Paul and the works of classical liberal thinkers like Locke, Jefferson & Paine is a supporter and admirer of Chomsky?
brodie2288 3 years ago
There are certain things I don't like about Paul all three of those you mentioned (Jefferson, Paul, and Paine) all had and have different views on a number of issues.
overmind25 3 years ago
*Paul. All
overmind25 3 years ago
Chomsky is a classical liberal.
Nicopaco 3 years ago
Ha, no he isn't, he even says he is a libertarian socialist who sympathizes with anarcho-syndicalism.
brodie2288 3 years ago
He's said many, many times that he is probably one of the last *real* conservatives left, therefore, he is a classical liberal.
Arkinight 2 years ago
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Libertarian socialist? I find that hard to believe, considering his authoritarian position on multiple social issues. (Pornography, for example).
Socialist I can believe, but as for the libertarian part? No way. That holds as much water as Bill maher's self-proclaimed "libertarian" standing.
MindlessGlitch 2 years ago
He argues against pornography but he doesn't call for legislation... Moral proselytizing isn't force. Disagreement isn't force. Debate isn't force.
LuqmanNaq 2 years ago 2
Only in the sense that the market should only be allowed to reign where it does not oppress people. Which he says it does everywhere today.
Internationalen 3 years ago
liberal meaning that he is a "free thinking man" and somehow this is a bad thing?????
rnstuffy 3 years ago
There is no need to comment on something unless you are informed about it; and you certainly aren't informed on Chomsky.
Brumerican 3 years ago 3
Propaganda is a coercive means a pushing an agenda were as advertising is the free exchange of information/opinions that encourage choice. Propaganda and advertising are NOT one in the same. Chomsky seems to view humanity as weak and unable to discern fact from fiction and make our own decisions on certain opinions. Everyone knows adverts contain deception, and if the deception is dramatic enough as to affect consumer confidence in the good or service then the seller will fail in the future.
brodie2288 3 years ago
You either are as dumb as you sound or think we are. Advertising is the free exchange of information/opinions: Truly Orwellian.
locopr1 3 years ago
You can advertise information, opinions/ideas, deceit or truth. This is the beauty of freedom. Chomsky is rightfully advertising (selling) his opinions to us, just as corporations, books, teachers, parents and friends rightfully can. It is up to us as free & responsible individuals to discern the truth and to develop our own opinions/ideas through the diverse & free info that capitalism and a free society nurture.
socialistic totalitarian states are orwellian not capitalistic societies.
brodie2288 3 years ago
you have obviously never read orwell, he implicitly states that totalitarian regimes can arise in capitalist states and how they can arise.
danny123xvz 3 years ago 6
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this guy's voice would drive his wife MAD
JCuniverse 4 years ago
Why are you applying for the position?
locopr1 3 years ago
gosh I hope not..like a lot of guys ..I got conned into marrige - love & war in the same bed
JCuniverse 3 years ago
Liberal, conservative, us, them , you!!! Arrrrghh!!! All this partisan crap makes my head hurt. Want to make a difference, go outside and pick up a bag of litter, help your neighbor, volunteer at the hospital...
chefry828 4 years ago 3
yeah just leave government to those qualified.
sorry buddy but nothing you said is relavent.
brothahaneef 4 years ago
just destroy the government...that is the solution ;-)
Irondukesteve 4 years ago
yeah ok useful idiot lol
I'll take his word over a lying, manipulative torturing Administration anyday thanks
I think its very entertaiing the way you can criticisze america a
icantfindanamethis 4 years ago
amen.
starrider7777 4 years ago
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Chomsky has never forgiven US for fighting and winning the Cold war. For many years, principal function of Chomky has been to discredit the nation that stood as supreme alternative to socialism. He is a useful idiot who helps European wish to use anti-Americanism to absolve them of sins of two world wars. Similarly he helps Arabs delusions that all their miseries are fault of US. He is one of the greatest proponents of Anti-Americanism in the world, that is why he is so famous in EU and Arabia.
vksharma20 4 years ago
Chomsky is very critical of the USSR.
GrassAndRocks 4 years ago
You apparently have never actually listened to Chomsky speak at length. His main focus is not socialist but humanist and historical. He generally does not say things he has no evidence to back up. Your opinion of the EU is likewise distorted, especially considering that most of the EU nations are U.S. allies. And Chomsky does not attribute all Arab miseries to the U.S. That's a story you've made up for yourself so that you can hate the point of view of someone you know nothing about.
auto248704 4 years ago 5
urm..... are you nuts or something?
sullaofroma 3 years ago
whoever believes that Bush is truly a bumbling retarded are decieved and retarded themselves. It's an image: Clinton: the jazz-loving swingster, Reagan: the (grand)fatherly do-gooder etc.
qwerty4197 4 years ago
so true it's frightening
tuberwhit 5 years ago
essential. excellent stuff!
thinkforjoy 5 years ago