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  • Great, I just soiled myself. Cheers Konami.

  • Look i'm okay with the voice acting of silent hill 2 wether it is still original or not i'm fine with it... BUT silent hill 3 for heather THEY FUCKED THAT SHIT UP I am highly upset. I've been in love with heather ever since I was a fetus in my mothers womb and they managed to get by with this monstrosity!? I can't even begin to describe how I feel.. But all i'm gonna say is. Thank god my ps2 still works so I can play it on there! Fuck the hd addition piece of shit

  • Are there only 2 titles on the 'collection?' Sure. But you can bet your balls that if it sells well enough you'll be seeing 'SH HD Collection - Vol. 2' with at least 1 other previous release and some lame bullshit to watch (if not a 2nd title to accompany it) within a year and a half's time. Marketing ploy? Sure. You can bet your balls again.

  • just include the original voices!!!

  • @harryvendetta They already announced that they are adding the option to use the original voices as well.

    At least for Silent Hill 2. They weren't able to put that option in for Silent Hill 3, something about some sort of limitations.

  • I love silent hill!!!!

  • Looks the same to me. But maybe my monitor just sucks...

  • i feel that the new voice actors don't fit the characters. i don't think this is worth buying

  • sh3 does not have original voices wtf? not buying this.

  • ficaram com os dubladores novos mesmo né

    que pena :\

  • The new voice acting is kinda dull, just clearer sounding. They didn't remake 1 that was very odd or lazy probably would have bought it for that one to be remade 1 is amazing still. I'll stick with the hex editing making 2 and 3 stretch, it's kinda not worth it for these they look fine anyway. Voice acting made these games unique don't ya think, now it's just not there, weird stuff but at least new people will experience it all in a different way with these and the 2nd movie.

  • @DarkR27 no, the voice acting didn't make the game it was horrible. The only games that voice acting kept together was legacy of kain series. For Silent Hill 2 even the actors admitted that they had to improvise and translate from a bad japanese script. That's why everything is so awkward. The only thing that kept the game together were the impressive graphics and every sound/music you can hear.

  • after getting Metal Gear Solid HD on my ps3 a while ago im totally going to get this

  • Can't wait!!! SH best game of all timesss!!

  • I think the hd collection of the two best silent hill games are what we have all been waiting for :D seriously cant wait :P

  • Don't any of you guys already own SH2 and 3 ???

  • And the pc version!? D:!! wth... i know we have one version but i want HD ;-;

  • @CyberDomoChan turn resolution to 1280*720. Tadaa HD

  • @zalgrad85 i already played it at 1920*1080 with FOV hack but but.... i want HD textures and best sound.. all that things xD lol

  • @CyberDomoChan oh, I understand that. However don't you think the increased FOV hurts the experience? You know with the fog making you unable to see

  • @zalgrad85 Not really, i get used to the normal FOV at that resolution , when i used the hack was hard to get used to, but i actually feel alot better with the FOV Hack with that resolution than with out it, because i can see more field and it dont look like a 4:3 resolution and the only parts i couldn't see was when everything was dark.... lmao xD

  • I dont like it. Not because of the game. But is because it comes out on march. Why is taking this long to put a ps 2 game to hd? Resident evil only took a month or so.

  • @pe3noipryde marketing. March will have 3 silent hill titles

  • So apparently it's only SH2 and SH3 in this collection? No SH4? No SH Origins? No SH Shattered Memories? NOT EVEN SH1?! Seriously,if you're going to make a "collection" then do it right and include the rest of the PS1 and PS2 series. How this will be worth the initial $60-$70 is beyond me.

  • @skullapendra these are the most sold games from the series. SH1 looks bad to upgrade

  • @zalgrad85 Then they should be standalone titles on PSN and XBOX Live. Either include the other PS2 titles or don't call it a collection; It's a two-pack packaged as a collection and honestly,not worth the price.

  • @skullapendra I think sh1 is on PSN...maybe not sure, but it would totally make sense since Blood Omen, Soul Reaver and even RE1-3 are there. You know, I wish people would've bought SH4 more. I did, wish I hadn't, but it would've been awesome to get it like this. Well I guess the price won't be 60, but cheaper than that. I remember the resident evil collection which was just the gamecube titles. Still this is something cool if you ask me.

  • is it just sh2 and 3 or is it all 3 games in this pack?

  • I want this...so bad.

  • 1 and 2 being poor in the sense of the voice acting that is - brilliant games, brilliant examples of horror video games at their finest, but the voice acting was just cringe-worthy in 1 and 2. 3 I can't speak for. 4 I can't even remember because It wasn't as meaningful as 1 and 2 to me. Homecoming and Shattered Memories were solid though...what point was I making? Ah yes I understand the upset over changing just one tiny bit of the experience we know and love but I'd be all for the new ones...

  • @TheWeirdCartoons me too. I only want to get these just to play them with the new voices. The texture and resolution upgrade is a nice bonus but it's mainly for the voices for me:)

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  • I honestly never thought the voice acting changes would be any issue with anyone. I love Silent Hill, I'm a huge fan of it's psychological horrors - If I won the lotto tomorrow you can bet I'd adapt James' story or something - but the voice acting was always wooden to the point of being laughable but hey, I was okay with that - the woodiness was part of its charm. I've yet to play SH3 - my lady set me up with it and her old PS2 but I've since been a busy man - 1 and 2 were both somewhat poor

  • Hey I thought the voices were gonna suck balls, but to be honest they sounded very good IMO.

  • hate the fact that that changed the voices for silent hill 3

    but damn these games look good in HD. Gonna have to buy this >_>

    damn you konami.

  • @calvFF7 i will buy this but heather voice was so sweet in silent hill 3 , and the bad thing is that the only silent hill i havent played is 3 (and 4)

  • fuck u all who say that the voices dont do the game!!! original voices are part of the games athmosphere

  • At first, I thought, "Hey, new Claudia isn't too bad."

    And then I remembered that that's Mary's line and I was all, "Oh. :C"

  • While I'm use to hearing the original voices (which I love), Im going to play Silent Hill 2 with the new vocies first time around. I'm pretty sure everyone else is too. I think...

  • @spacesex101 yeah for sure. I can't wait for the new dub eventhough what they've shown was not the best for comparisons. They should've shown what the new laura sounds like and when James first kills a monster.

  • I like Mar's voice, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (who fyi is also the vocalist for the SH3, Homecoming and Shattered Memories songs). She's the PERFECT choice for Mary.

  • @KittyKatMisa .... she's 17 :|

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  • Love Heather

  • Tanks god the old version of the voices come back! o/ i don't like that voice of mary :@

  • meh... I'll stick with my good old PC versions... :P

  • @Andrashi13 lazy lol

  • How about we stop complaining and enjoy the chance to replay these amazing games? Better yet convince some friends to try out the series too.

  • @Cjshappyplace I already got two of my friends to pre order who never finished the originals on the PS2 :)

  • @shhistoricalsociety As have I.

  • TwinPerfect has their own opinion regarding what Silent Hill is about. So does everybody else. Their opinions are worth no more than anybody else's.

  • @Ryconoclast their opinion is also flawed and full of random assumptions/misinformation, so yeah

  • @Shesellssheshells yeah and I don't really like it how they are biased to the old games. I mean the least they could do is stay objective instead of making grimaces to "embarass" the new games.

  • @Ryconoclast Ha ha. TwinPefect is just a hater:)

  • @Ryconoclast I agree, but TP opinions are backed-up by evidence in game, in contrary to most of the other opinions

  • @pksstr Their opinions are backed by their interpretation of in-game evidence. They do a terrible job of interpreting that evidence correctly. That makes their opinions worth a great deal less than the average fan's.

  • I suspect it might look slightly better than the PC version-they probably upscaled the cut scenes and possibly improved the textures somewhat though I couldn't say for certain. It'd also be really nice if they revamped the lighting system somewhat-particularly to allow for some softer shadows but I'm not holding my breath. The voice-acting for Mary in-particular sounds like she's trying to be more "dramatic" than natural-but that could just be my nostalgia talking.

  • @DJGamer The new voice actor is the musician Mary-Elizabeth McGlynn.

    I like her music. Though she sounds always the same. On the SH3 OST you can hear her reading certain diary passages, sounds quite the same as her SH2 voice acting.

  • Then let the 'original creators' complain, assuming any of them give a shit. They don't need TwinPerfect puppets white-knighting for them. 

  • @Ryconoclast They did complain and they even thanked Twin Perfect.

  • @wastelandsurvivor No, they didn't.

  • @Ryconoclast Watch it again then. And please believe me, it's not like I don't think the work of the new teams are not worth playing, but they don't fit the title Silent Hill.

    I've been studying things like that for quite some time now.

    Origins was fun to play, so was Shattered Memories and I might give Downpour a try.

    But i dont want an Idiot telling me that Silent Hill is about Pyramid Head or alike.

  • @wastelandsurvivor you should watch the Downpour interview Tomm Hulett did with Got Game. He flat out told the interviewer PH had no place in SH DP, he really seems to get Silent Hill silenthillhistoricalsociety . com / ?p=9557

  • @shhistoricalsociety Hello! Will you do a Downpour walkthrough when it comes out? I'd really like to see you play it because I don't have a console.

  • @dessan18 That's the plan!

  • @shhistoricalsociety awesome! I'd like to make a suggestion if you will. You should talk alot more during gameplay. I noticed in your sh2 videos that you were too "quiet". Just speak your mind like in the 45min preview video. It makes it more interesting, as if the viewer is in the same room and experience the same as you.

    I really can't talk coherently can I

  • @dessan18 I think you were the only one who liked how much I talked in the 40min preview XD I'll try to talk more when I do a play through but most likely I will let the game to most of the talking and just point out cool things (like I did with SHSM and SH2).

  • @shhistoricalsociety When I said the thing with Pyramid Head it was just an example.

  • @wastelandsurvivor they did not thank twin perfect, guy cihi did.

  • @Shesellssheshells I just watched it again and you're right, I'm sorry.

    The guys who was working with the voice actors(is it called voice director ? i dunno) wrote to Twin Perfect.

    Nevertheless, TwinPerfect is right about what Silent Hill is about and I'm saying this because I agree with them and not because I watched it and thought "WOW THATS WHAT IT IS ABOUT !".

  • @wastelandsurvivor here's the problem with twin perfect: the lore surrounding silent hill is vague, and that's on purpose. being vague factors into a fear of the unknown. not only is trying to figure out the "truth" of the town taking away from the scares, but it's also pointless since it's vague: sh allows for various interpretations of its events. twin perfect are trying to take away some of the fun of the game by not letting you come to your own conclusions. by the way: ufo endings are canon

  • @Shesellssheshells I agree with that there are indeed vague factors.

    For example how exactly did the cult impregnate Alessa ?

    And how could the spiritual power been related to the god ?

    How is it possible that faith alone can trigger gods rebirth in heather ?

    But there are indeed points that are not open to interpretation.

    And of course there are points made by twinperfect which im not so sure about.

  • I was wondering how long it would take for people to start menstruating about the new voice acting.

    Thanks for not letting me down, internet.

  • @Ryconoclast It's not about the voice acting itself but the way Konami is handling the series.

    The teams working on the new Silent Hill games dont know what SH is about.

    Since Team Silent stopped working on it there simply was no other SH game.

    If you dont believe me or think Im just raging watch "The Real Silent Hill Experience" by Twin Perfect(/ fungo).

  • Beautiful I'm buying it now!

  • Guys HD is a lie, they didnt change the graphics in any way.

    They just changed the resolution, which you can do in the PC versions of the games.

    The original voice actors are one of the best in Silent Hill 2.

    The new ones are not bad, but don't fit the characters of SH2(James was designed after his voice actor Guy Cihi).

    Heathers new voice actor seems to be okay.

    Please keep in mind that the original voice actors had been chosen for a reason, this remake had only been made for the money.

  • @wastelandsurvivor the original sh2 voices are being included in the hd collection.

  • @Shesellssheshells Yes, I know. But many say that the old voices were bad and the new ones are better. Besides that isn't my point.

    Konami was forced to include the original voices because the original voice actors also did the mocap and the characters have been designed after them.

    Konami is not interested in the fans, but their money.

    Since Silent Hill 4 there was no real Silent Hill.

    Dont get me wrong, playing SH:SM was fun,

    but the new teams dont know what SH is about.

  • @wastelandsurvivor "Konami is not interested in the fans, but their money."

    you say this as if it were some sort of epiphany. holy crap! a company who only gives a shit about their bottom line?? stop the presses!

    if your point is that you prefer the old voice actors, then that's fine. my point is that the hd collection features both the old and new voice actors for sh2, meaning if you prefer the original v/o then you've got it. doesn't matter which you prefer since they're both available.

  • @wastelandsurvivor Everybody knew what HD remakes were from the first place. It's not the REmake or Halo Anniversary where they completely upgraded the visuals. It's for collectors and people who didn't get them back then

  • @dessan18 Basically a good idea but Konami doesnt care for the fans.

    Then there was no need to change the voice actors.

    Its an insult for the original creators.

  • @wastelandsurvivor wasn't the whole inclusion of the old VO because of the outburst from the fans? I don't think the developers think of it as severe as you but we'll never know unless we ask them about it. You have your opinions but even you must agree that Konami is atleast above Capcom in terms of dealing with fans.

    If you know about the heated dmc debates then you know what I'm talking about

  • @dessan18 You're right there.

  • @wastelandsurvivor sigh..another person who failed to turn on the HD button...If you compare the versions side by side, there is a huge difference. They even redid some of the textures and redrew some of the backgrounds and more, which can't be done on the PC version (modded).

  • @Reloading26 Yeah redoing some textures thats a shitload of work !

    No offense but from what I've seen in screenshots there's not much of a difference considering it's 10 years old; I've been working with the game models of SH2 to SH4 often and I'm not impressed, still I acknowledge the work of the new voice actors(the new Eddie is crap though).

    What I loved most was the storyline and the voice acting.

    In my opinion the old ones are better,

    though I'm interested in sh3's new voices.

  • @Reloading26 By the way I don't see any point in argueing wether TwinPerfect is right or not.

    I have my view of things, you have yours, that's the way it is.

    So you enjoy the HD Collection and whatever will be added to the SH franchise.

    And I'll enjoy the old ones.

    I think we all got upset here, and I want to apologize for my rageous outburst,

    let's write our theories, opinions and interpretation down and discuss them.

    In the end it's about enjoying a game and the community.

  • @wastelandsurvivor I don't understand why people are complaining! Voices don't make a game. Just look at the Resident Evil series!

  • @Reloading26 Well, I think voice acting is quite important in games such as Silent Hill. but you've got a point there with Resident Evil. For example I love the the Resident Evil for the setting and not the voice acting. It depends on the game really. Silent Hill 2 tells us the story of how James( and Eddies and Angela) is dealing with his guilt, it's quite important to have good voice acting, because we're focusing on a human being, at least that's my opinion :)

  • @Reloading26 Oh, by the way. If you like Resident Evil check out my project

    "watch?v=qvr1eXSW1no" , i know it looks crappy right now, but I had to model everything with hammer and it just sucks :D

    Hopefully my university will give me a maya 2012 serial key soon :/

  • @Reloading26 yeah but its what gives expression to the characters

  • @Reloading26 really? That's pretty cool actually and gives one more reason to buy it. RE4 and PoP HD was just higher resolution.

  • Voice acting is top-notch, as expected, and graphically it looks impressive.

  • I can't wait but no EU release date :(

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  • Okay, this HD makeover does look gorgeous.

    And I can get used to these new voices. :D

  • NOW THATS TERROR (Classic Deus Ex reference)

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