I teach a similar square form to beginners, we also do it as a group with the more experienced practitioners so I can make corrections to posture and the individual movements. The whole class can all watch and learn from each correction. Thanks for posting this video it's nice to see and hear an explanation of the square form. I teach the Wudang as taught by Cheng Tin Hung, seems very similar.
If you are not doing a square form and tell your students that it is square, isn't that misleading? Should you do some research when you realize that what you've doing is not what you think it is?
If you've found out your mistake, do you want to hide it from your students?
Bemusing and foisting are not the right term for my previous comments. I was only pointing out what form it was accordingly to my knowledge. And I subsequently said,"this is only my opinion."
Thanks for the comment. Your observation about joint exercise is true but one of the minor applications of Square Form.. The major application is to learn how to delineate the yin and yang parts of the body during tai chi movement.
The Joint Form & the Square Form are two different forms with diference purposes.
By the way, the Round Form you demonstrate is more like the Square Form. The Round Form should be fluid and go with circular moves. The moves flow continuosly without pause and with no angles. Anyway, this is only my opinion.
Once they were satisfied with that, then I was taught Wu Kung-i's continuous square form, which is very subtle, but based entirely on an even smaller circle square form than Wu Chien-ch'uan's. Wu Ta-hsin preserved Wu Chien-ch'uan's square form, too, though.
I learned from 2 of Wu Chien-ch'uan's grandchildren and their senior students, so I recognise it. I thought it was an exhaustive documentation of the parts of a teaching form, my apologies. I was taught just the square form, very intricately broken down as above, and the round I had to figure out on my own from clues here and there for the first 10 years.
Search YouTube for World Tai Chi Day 2007 Rochester, NY. Students and Master Hwa demonstrate "square" and "round"...it is practiced this way all the time. See above for lineage transmission information.
Square form broken down that way is for teaching, nothing gets left out. Continuity should also practised. The applications in square and round should be different. The guy did this form for documentary purposes, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't practise it this way himself, even square should have some smoothness...
Thanks for posting Master Stephan Hwa,I will definately add the idea to my own practice, this can only help improving a form, which will get better a bit everyday...
I teach a similar square form to beginners, we also do it as a group with the more experienced practitioners so I can make corrections to posture and the individual movements. The whole class can all watch and learn from each correction. Thanks for posting this video it's nice to see and hear an explanation of the square form. I teach the Wudang as taught by Cheng Tin Hung, seems very similar.
TheZhongzheng 1 year ago
fascinating
abraxnos 2 years ago
woah that's really good control in the square form
jervis8784 2 years ago
dance dance dance dance dance dance dance dance dance dance dance ....
am I the only one who see's the awesomeness?
stmk0 2 years ago
This form has similarities with Wu Kung Yi's square form (son of Wu Jian Quan). Perhaps GM Yang also trained with Wu Kung Yi while in Hong Kong?
I like what he says in his commentary.
JianChuanTaiChi 3 years ago
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livinusa2003 2 years ago
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classicaltaichibflo 3 years ago
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livinusa2003 3 years ago
If you are not doing a square form and tell your students that it is square, isn't that misleading? Should you do some research when you realize that what you've doing is not what you think it is?
If you've found out your mistake, do you want to hide it from your students?
georgehsliew 3 years ago
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livinusa2003 3 years ago 2
Bemusing and foisting are not the right term for my previous comments. I was only pointing out what form it was accordingly to my knowledge. And I subsequently said,"this is only my opinion."
georgehsliew 3 years ago
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livinusa2003 3 years ago
I practiced with young wabu for a short time before his death. I was the youngest of his students, are you in the rochester area ? and do you teach ?
paullywalnuts2 2 years ago
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livinusa2003 3 years ago
It is a Hong Kong term and I don't know how the Northerners call it.
georgehsliew 3 years ago
This is not the square form. It's correct name is the Joint Form (關節拳). The precise movements are designed to excercise the joints.
georgehsliew 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment. Your observation about joint exercise is true but one of the minor applications of Square Form.. The major application is to learn how to delineate the yin and yang parts of the body during tai chi movement.
parea10 3 years ago
The Joint Form & the Square Form are two different forms with diference purposes.
By the way, the Round Form you demonstrate is more like the Square Form. The Round Form should be fluid and go with circular moves. The moves flow continuosly without pause and with no angles. Anyway, this is only my opinion.
georgehsliew 3 years ago
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livinusa2003 4 years ago
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classicaltaichibflo 4 years ago
Wu Chien-ch'uan = Wu Jianquan
Wu Kung-i = Wu Gongyi
Wu Kung-tsao = Wu Gongzao
Wu Ta-hsin = Wu Daxin
Loyaute 4 years ago
Once they were satisfied with that, then I was taught Wu Kung-i's continuous square form, which is very subtle, but based entirely on an even smaller circle square form than Wu Chien-ch'uan's. Wu Ta-hsin preserved Wu Chien-ch'uan's square form, too, though.
Loyaute 4 years ago
I learned from 2 of Wu Chien-ch'uan's grandchildren and their senior students, so I recognise it. I thought it was an exhaustive documentation of the parts of a teaching form, my apologies. I was taught just the square form, very intricately broken down as above, and the round I had to figure out on my own from clues here and there for the first 10 years.
Loyaute 4 years ago
My calligraphy classmate Mr. Lo performed this square form to us last year. Definitely a facinating form to watch.
Wontonmean 4 years ago
Search YouTube for World Tai Chi Day 2007 Rochester, NY. Students and Master Hwa demonstrate "square" and "round"...it is practiced this way all the time. See above for lineage transmission information.
livinusa2003 4 years ago
Square form broken down that way is for teaching, nothing gets left out. Continuity should also practised. The applications in square and round should be different. The guy did this form for documentary purposes, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't practise it this way himself, even square should have some smoothness...
Loyaute 4 years ago
Wow, square form looks horrible when compared to round :) Thanks for posting the video
Shindai 4 years ago
Master Hwa's instructional videos emphasize and start with round form and use square form to assist with and supplement the round form.
parea10 4 years ago
Thanks for posting Master Stephan Hwa,I will definately add the idea to my own practice, this can only help improving a form, which will get better a bit everyday...
YOCHITAO 4 years ago
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livinusa2003 5 years ago
Awesome. Thanks for posting
reschof 5 years ago
Break dance Taichi ^_*!
markettaipo 5 years ago