@roninrage18 How is it not biggotry? It is denying gay couples the right to marry and the tax benefits/other benefits given to straight married couples.
@godmaderainbows Name one. I have a minor in animal science, and the closest thing I ever saw to animal homosexuality was primates who engage in mock copulations when competing for a mate. And if we can gauge human behavior by animals, polar bears tend to kill or starve the weaker, older bears who can't fend for themselves by knocking them out of the the prime fishing grounds. Maybe we should result to the rule of the tooth and claw if human behavior should parrot the animal kingdom.
@RuinOrPeace Probably because homosexuals do not accept polite discourse. In Nevada we voted on Prop. 2, which allowed NV not to recognize gay marriages in other states. I had a "Yes on 2" sign in my front yard. My house was spray painted "BRAINWASHED FOOL" and the back window to my BMW was slashed (it was a 95 convertible). If I disagree with gay marriage because I believe homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, not an orientation, I am a homophobe, a bigot, a racist, etc. I'm not.
@kenatlaw Saying homosexuals don't accept polite discourse is about as plausible as saying Asians or left-handed people do not accept polite discourse.
@NegaRose13 I base my assertion on my vandalized house, a torched car in San Diego (the lawyer who was defending the Boy Scouts of America), a death threat, the protests outside the Mormon temple in L.A., the beating of a "Colorado for Family Values Representative" and nine years as a prosecutor, three years on sex crimes, where gay activists stormed the courthouse re male prostitutes. Do gays have a word for someone who politely disagrees that homosexuality is conduct and not an orientation?
@kenatlaw Well I am very sorry that has happened to you. No one deserves that. However, there's still no need to lump all homosexuals under the same category.
@NegaRose13 I also worked in law enforcement for eleven years, two as an investigator, nine as a prosecutor before becoming a patent lawyer, my current occupation. It is a myth that same sex couples are essentially "normal" people with an "orientation" towards the same gender. Hundreds of gay people, dozens of books and scientific studies formed my opinions, including BGLSA when I was in law school and other organizations promoting the myth that homosexuality is nature, not preference.
@GodCreatesGays2 See, there is no neutral or polite word for someone who disagrees with the hypothesis that homosexuality is inborn and not a choice. "Uninformed" means I'm ignorant, bias, and wrong. I have three degrees, one in the hard science (engineering), a minor in animal science, and a law degree and am admitted to the patent bar. I am very educated, have read a lot of books, and do not believe homosexuality is inborn, anymore than promiscuity, drug addiction, etc. are inborn.
@kenatlaw, well, would you feel better if people just acknowledged you were "wrong"? How can one possible find a polite word to describe someone who either doesn't know or accept reality? It can't be done, and in the end, why should it be? Shouldn't we use accurate words to describe a negative quality?
@GodCreatesGays2 Again, you assume that I am "wrong." You cannot accept my differing opinion. I respect your BELIEF (not fact) that homosexuality is inborn; I believe it is a lifestyle choice. In 1974 homosexuality was removed from the DSM IV under tremendous pressure, in 1980 40% of psychiatrists wanted it put back. The "gay gene" turned out to be fraudulent. Assuming homosexuality is inborn, so is schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, etc. Does that mean we should not treat these diseases?
@kenatlaw, you're convinced you are right, even tho' there's zero empirical proof anywhere (outside of rightwing or "religious" propaganda) that being gay is a "choice". I am sure I'm right. Any minority can be labeled defective, if looked at long enough through a critical eye. There's no heterosexual gene, either, so if it's inborn, is it a sickness that needs to be treated? (Most people who are married would say "yes", LOL!!!) No one will accept a differing opinion he is CERTAIN is absurd.
@GodCreatesGays2 No proof that heterosexuality is inborn? How do humans reproduce? If men were not attracted to women and vice versa, the human race would not exist. Assuming you believe in evolution, as do I, heterosexuality is inborn in every mammal. I have been married, only once, for 18 years and strongly disagree that heterosexuality needs to be treated. It has been recognized as the norm for centuries. I accept your opinion on homosexuality and expect the same courtesy.
@kenatlaw, the point is, sexuality itself is inborn. Anti-gays keep insisting that homosexuality is a "choice". So if folks "choose" their sexuality, then the argument must go that they "choose" to be str8 too. Hetero men will always be attracted to str8 women, but that's doesn't mean anything else is bad. Your argument is akin to saying, "If everyone in the world were black, the white race would not exist." Such a scenario is never going to happen; the entire world will never be gay, so relax,
@GodCreatesGays2 I'm very relaxed, Contrary to the gay dogma, only .06 of 1% of men have had sex with another man, generous estimates put gaysat 2%. That 10% figure that gets thrown around is based on gays assumed to be in the closet. Humans, like all mammals, are born with sexual desires to the opposite sex, to reproduce. We are lucky we can control reproduction, we should do a better job of it. Homosexuality is an aberration, a defect, and should be treated, not made a civil rights issue.
Gay dogma? LOL! So every scientist, psychiatrist, and medical professional who disagrees with your....colorful interpretation of reality is gay? Humans, like all mammals, do procreate, of course, but not all of them are heterosexual, or exclusively heterosexual. There's absolutely no empirical, rational proof anywhere that homosexuality is an aberration or a defect, except in your slanted wishful thinking. Don't get me wrong; you are free to think gays are defective, but the reality refutes it.
@GodCreatesGays2 Peter Tatchell, founder of OUTRAGE! a homosexual group in AU, wrote on Spiked that he agrees with the SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS that sexuality is not inborn. Homosexual activists have for decades engaged in a search for an "excuse" for homosexual behavior. But even if such a gene were discovered (Hamer's "gay gene" was fake), similar predispositions likely exist for alcoholism, schizophrenia, and depression. Should we deem these conditions "orientation" and demand govt. recognition?
@kenatlaw, of course, you're misrepresenting Tatchell's writing. He acknowledges that there's no one, single gay gene (just like there's no single hetero gene), but he (like recognized medical, psychiatric & scientific organizations) acknowledges there are biological conditions which predispose a person to be gay. Vainly trying to correlate sexual orientation (homo or hetero) to conditions which damage or even destroy people's lives is absurd. Nothing about being gay is inherently dangerous.
@GodCreatesGays2 I respectfully disagree. There is no single "gay gene," but humans, mammals, are biologically programmed to reproduce. Boys start to notice girls and vice-versa, and 99% of the world engages in normal, heterosexual sex in response to these feelings. Religions attempt to regulate sex to marriage, but the idea of abstinence is seen as far right and unrealistic. I have no problem w/ gay sex, but do not want to recognize gay "marriage" based on a false argument of "orientation."
@kenatlaw writes, "humans, mammals, are biologically programmed to reproduce."
The str8 ones, sure. That's why they are heterosexual. Other humans are biologically & emotionally hard-wired for same-sex attraction & relationships.
"do not want to recognize gay "marriage" based on a false argument of "orientation.""
Except the fact that sexual orientation is innate and unchangeable been proven true and accurate, which is the crux of the issue, and a major reason why anti-gays' stance fails.
@GodCreatesGays2 It has not been proven that sexual preference is innate nor unchangeable. Indeed, 66% of people surveyed who labeled themselves "gay" said they COULD change their preference. No one is "hard wired" to be gay any more than someone can be "hard wired" to be an alcoholic, a Mormon, an adulterer, etc. Gays are free to live any way they choose; but the argument that they are persecuted minority akin to African Americans is utterly false.
@kenatlaw claims, "It has not been proven that sexual preference is innate nor unchangeable."
You are under no obligation to believe every credible, recognized scientific, medical, psychiatric, and educational institution on this matter.
"Indeed, 66% of people surveyed who labeled themselves "gay" said they COULD change their preference."
This simply isn't true, sorry. The only people who make claims of this nature are those indoctrinated & harassed by religious institutions' misinformation.
@GodCreatesGays2 Don't suppose you can cite any of these "recognized scientific medical, psychiatric and educational institutions." Gay dogma--"10% of the population is gay, you are born that way, can't change, every scientific study supports us." Gays are worse than any religious institution when it comes to brainwashing their followers, generalizing those that disagree (homophobes) and not being open to the idea that sexuality is a choice and should be treated with therapy/medication.
@kenatlaw, we both know you don't want to, or perhaps can't cope with, the facts. That's why you won't do the research yourself. Have you ever wondered why you need to spend so much of your life trying to denigrate minorities, rather than putting something, anything positive out into the world? I've acknowledge many times that you have every right to believe whatever you need to, but what pay-off are you getting, wallowing in ignorance and prejudice?
@GodCreatesGays2 I am married to a deaf Jewish woman. My only other long term relationship was with a woman who was half Jamaican (black) with a Chinese mother. She died. I love all people, gay/straight/bi-sexual. I do not spend my life denigrating minorities. I have given thousands to cancer research, started a HOPE program, most participants were black, when I was a prosecutor. I'm a happy patent lawyer. I went to UNR and Tulane, both had med schools. Both said sexuality was a choice.
I have read a lot of books, pro and anti-gay books, I have guided groups of gay climbers to the top of Rainier (good tippers). I have no problems with gays and am hardly "wallowing in ignorance/prejudice." I have three degrees, am both an engineer and a lawyer, a climber, a diver, a husband/father, cancer survivor. I RESPECTFULLY disagree that homosexuality is inborn. I have never had a homosexual man or woman "respectfully" disagree with me. Have had my house vandalized for Yes on 2 sign
@GodCreatesGays2 I don't need to believe anything. My religion is truth. I believe what is true, not the shifting winds of political correctness or various leaders. You need your belief--and that's all it is a belief--that sexuality is inborn. You think I need "help," you accuse me of "wallowing in ignorance" and being "misinformed." Has it ever crossed your mind you are wrong? I have, that is why I researched the issue the best I could before deciding how to vote on Question 2 here in NV.
@kenatlaw, I've already acknowledged that if you need to believe your religion is "truth", that's your right. I won't argue the point, because such convictions are based on blind faith and denial of reality, in order to justify your chosen religious lifestyle. If it makes you feel safer, more superior, or whatever, that need clearly overrules your interest in accepting the facts. No problem.
@GodCreatesGays2 You need to believe your dogma that sexuality is inborn, I won't argue the opinions of thousands of scientists, psychiatrists, and psychologists because you won't accept the reality that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. You need to believe quasi, fabricated science and pundits in order to justify your lifestyle. Your need to feel justified, normal, superior and accepted. This overrules your interest in accepting the facts. No problem.
@kenatlaw, yes, I do need to accept and believe the truth. I'd hardly argue with you about those "thousands" of doubters, all of whom exist squarely in your imagination. If these imaginary friends help make you feel better about yourself, so be it. My "lifestyle" of accepting reality need not be justified, however. I will bid you adieu, now that I know my best efforts to enlighten you have been for naught.
@GodCreatesGays2 I bid you adieu, adios, good-bye; obviously you cannot accept truth, facts, or science. Give my best to your leaders and imaginary friends who you blindly follow, oblivious to the proven scientific fact that homosexuality is more a trait than polygamy, adultery, or alcoholism. It is a choice, you've made your choice, and now feel the need to preach to the world that your choice is an orientation. You are more brainwashed than any Mormon I've met. Hágoónee' (goodbye).
@kenatlaw, for someone who claims not to be gay, you're...relentlessly anal. How many times do I have to tell you it's over before you stop obsessing? And how amusing that you've fallen into the typical idiot's trap of assuming I must be gay, simply because I concretely and effectively refute your...colorful reinterpretation of reality? I suppose anti-gays are so used to deluding yourselves that being gay is a "choice", that deluding yourselves about everything else, too, comes easier.
@RuinOrPeace LMAO they just don't don't want their bigotry to be exposed or they can't take the fact that people don't embrace their discrimination XD
thats because youtube is overrun by bad mouth far left anti christian anti conservative liberals who mark everyone as racists homophobic sexist etc etc who disagrees with em, and no one has to hear them complaining about everything they dont like
@Angellove1220 Well since you are racist bigoted sexist homophobes deal with it. It's not about what we like or dont like. Its about truth vs lies. We tell the truth and you and others like you tell nothing but lies. You are incapable of telling the truth. You tell nothing but half truths and flat out lies. You are against everything America stands for. Freedom, truth, justice, and equality. Everything you are against. Love always wins which means you will ultimately lose. Deal with it.
@RuinOrPeace : that's because there's a lot of whining little fags that will pick petty little things to complain about in the yes on 8 ads.....they don't actually bring a real debate just "oh this guy looks stupid cuz he supports yes on 8" shit like that.
@oddtreenow2 I oppose gay marriage, but it has nothing to do with my religion or lack of it. I oppose gay marriage b/c as a lawyer, I recognize that marriage is a contract between two people and the state. The state has an interest in said union because it is possible that union will produce children who need to be educated or otherwise need resources. Try as they might, a gay couple can't make a baby, yet my position brands me a "homophobe," not someone who has a different political position.
@jonniethegirl My wife is deaf, we were not allowed to adopt hearing children. Before you adopt, you have to undergo intensive "suitability inquiries," social workers coming to your house all hours of the day. We adopted a deaf child, but it took one year and close to $20K in legal fees. Suppose a social worker says a gay couple is not suitable, are they branded "bigots" and "homophobes?" I have a psychiatrist I use as a witness, and he said every homosexual he has is a total misfit.
"I oppose gay marriage b/c as a lawyer, I recognize that marriage is a contract between two people and the state.The state has an interest in said union because it is possible that union will produce children who need to be educated or otherwise need resources. Try as they might, a gay couple can't make a baby, "
This. We shouldn't allow gay people to marry for the same reason we don't let infertile people, old people, or those who do not plan on having children to marry. Wait.....
@MrImmoli Why do we have to limit to marriage to two people? Why can't a Muslim have two wives? I did not say that marriage was only for having children (after cancer I was told I was sterile, we did have a child and adopted a deaf child later). I said that for centuries marriage was regulated because "it is possible" that said union will produce children.Maybe I was born with too big of a heart, I need two wives, can't decide . . . I DEMAND that the state recognize my polygamous marriage.
"I said that for centuries marriage was regulated because "it is possible" that said union will produce children"
And with infertile or old couples it is not possible, thus if you follow your logic for gay marriage, those should be illegal also.
"I DEMAND that the state recognize my polygamous marriage."
Nice slippery slop fallacy and issue ignoring, but humoring you. The state should encourage these. A man can pregnant two women at once, making baby-making much more efficient.
I wonder why three people who love each other can't marry. I'm sure there are lots of Muslims who feel they cannot practice their religion without plural wives. If gays say: "No, marriage is between two people," why not three? If Webster's dictionary of marriage is not the guideline, maybe the U.S. govt. should give back all the property it confiscated from Mormons before statehood for their practice of polygamy.
@kenatlaw actually I'm a Muslim and marriages between more than two people is not allowed I mean a man can marry a 4 women if he wants but the women can't marry each other which is one of the many things I don't like about this I'm totally with you on the 3 people marrying each other
@yoyo94xo My law partner is from Iran, he said that taking of multiple wives, at least in Persia, is approved if one is willing to financially and emotionally support the additional wife. Obama's father was not granted permission to stay at Harvard because he had multiple wives in Kenya, or at least Harvard believed as much. A lot of groups throughout history have practiced polygamy, and every argument used to justify gay marriage can justify polygamy.
i htink its funny when peopel say "SAY YES TO SAVE THE CHILDREN"
I don't ever remember waking up one day, saying "OMG i'm turning 13, okay i have to make a choice, am I going to be gay or straight ?!?!??! omg running out of time, okay GAY ! i choose to get discrimnated and hated against!
And i'm sure my sister didn't wake up one day and decide that she'll be straight
Your either gay or striaght. You either prefer dick or vagina. You know what you think about whne your 'under the covers',
Please don't say the LGBT community has framed themselves as "martyrs". Recently, where I live there was a gay couple holding hands downtown one night. Some people apparently didn't like this and the couple was beaten to death. Now a martyr is someone who dies to protect their belief. So let me ask, do you think they chose to be violently murdered to "push a social agenda" that night? Or were they just 2 loving people who wanted to enjoy their life, only to have it cut short?
@HelloKittyM4ssacre 1 cor 1:18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
mark 13:23, 32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Be on guard! Be alert ! You do not know when that time will come.
when someone comes along saying the end will be on a certon date, know hes not correct and he is way out of the bible, ill be here may 22nd,
@HelloKittyM4ssacre they have trips to the holy lands all the time. go to your travel agency and book a flight and check it out,
why dont i believe in buddah, allah, zeus ect? because they are man made false gods and have nothing to do with eternity. i only service the one who died on the cross for me and that rose to life in three days
Rom 1:25 they exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised
@mrcooldude964 Yeah that's arrogant and contradictory. You don't think all those other religions say the exact same thing about christianity? Each religion has its "Proof" that their religion is the only real one, but that truth isn't solid in any way shape or form. Why? Because if you show'd me Jesus' body I'd have to question how you know about him when records of his life weren't taken for years after they happened plenty of time for the stories to get warped and blown out of proportion.
@WizkidDreamer28 its not about any religion. its about recieving jesus while you still can. even in jesus day. jesus did great miracles and talked with people and walked with him. but they still reject him. im fact they spit on him and hung him on a cross and killed him. only way to find jesus is to seek him from your heart. all who seek him will find him. if you havent found him its because you dont want to,
@mrcooldude964 Seriously...? If you walked up to me on the street and said that to me I'd probably look at you like a mad man. And I hope anyone who's never heard of Jesus would too because you completely and utterly dodged the question. Read it again! How do you know that Jesus is real? That the book you hold so near and dear is real? That all other books similar to your book are false? Quite frankly your previous answer was so far from an answer it was offensive......
@WizkidDreamer28, what proof do you want? people in jesus time talked to jesus. ate dinner with him and still would deny hes gods, in face they beat him, spit on him and hung him on a cross to die, (just as you would do) there is no proof that will be real to you, , those who seek jesus will find him. those who truly seek jesus. jesus will make himself real to him. if your not seelking him youll never find him
@HelloKittyM4ssacre evidence? take a trip to the holy land and they will take you on a tour where jesus walked and lived and you can even see the tomb where jesus rose to life. you can even stand in the tomb if you like ,
@HelloKittyM4ssacre. when jesus walked the earth he would walk and talk with people and they still refused to see he was god, jesus would do signs and wonders and still they rejected him as god, not only rejected him but beat him, hung him on a cross and killed him, if jesus appreared to you , you would still deny hes god, so what proof you looking for? its about faith, your heart is hard, if you ever truly want jesus then he can make himself real to you.
@HelloKittyM4ssacre youll see it. but when you do it will be to late. thats why jesus says. today is the day of salvation. but saved now. we dont even know if we will be alive tomorrow. eternity is nothing to mess around with. eternity is a long time
VOTE NO on prop 8 F all these conservatives let's change america and make it a better and more rqual place. Thumbs up this comment for the world to see!
Have you ever noticed all the "Yes to Prop 8" ads are very poorly-acted and seem to be straining to find an argument against gay marriage, wheras all the "No to Prop 8" ads are well acted, normally pretty funny and well-informed?
You're right, on one ad the actors' English was very poor (although they justfy this by stating all walks of life condemn gay marriage,lol) It seems they hire insincere uneducated people to promote prop 8, and I'm sure you noticed that all their commercials are predicated on completely subjective and false claims, only fortified by church authorities. It's kind of shocking though, what with the Mormon LDS extorting $22 Million from their own community, you'd think they'd afford better publicity
Acording to the Biblawl, marriage is between one man, and his sister, and her rapist, kitchen condiment, a gal who's kidnapped and raped, a few more women, an adulterer, a pack of raped whores, 700 hundred wives, 300 concubines, and the help, and the son who has murdered his brother. But it is not between one man and another man (or woman and another woman), because, well, that would be immoral.
"So let me get this straight...Larry King is getting his 8th divorce, Elizabeth Taylor is possibly getting married for a 9th time, Britney Spears had a 55 hour marriage, Jesse James and Tiger Woods, while married, were having sex with EVERYONE. Yet, the idea of same-sex marriage is going to destroy the institution of marriage? Really. Please re-post to your page if you agree - Proud to support equal rights for ALL.
1147 PEOPLE?! YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST GAYS?! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!! YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS WHO ARE TRYING TO FIT IN WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE A RACIST!!!! HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL!!! AND ALL YOUR DOING TO OPPOSE GAY MARRAGE IS THE BIBLE?! WHAT VERSE IS WHAT OPPOSES GAY MARRAGES! INFACT YOU MIGHT AS WELL CALL HOMOPHOBIA RACISM BECAUSE ITS TECHNICLY THE SAME THING EXCEPT IT JUDGES SEXUAL ORIENTATION INSTEAD OF RACE!!! AASSHHOOLLEESS!!!
Oh christ one day it will not e important...move on humans let evolution do its thing...stop trying to go back and just move forward...now smoke a bowl and think of love...
you have to give props to the mormons for all this shit on prop 8 , they use god as an excuses for their attack, just like the blacks was cursed in their belief so seriously they should mine their own fucking business and leave people to loving who they want , if they dont like it then mind your own business, the whole scare tactic about other issue is a joke.
1 cor 6:9-10, Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders will inherit the kingdom of God.
no god didnt creat people gay but if your in that life style you want to get out and come to jesus soon. .(jesus will forgive you for living in sin if you come to him)
Heh, i can't believe it took us 2 years to realize that this was unconstitutional. Whatever happened to "the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness"? Heh, grown ups these days.
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to this couple a man putting his penis on another mans butt is good and ok. whats god say about it? Rom 1:26-27, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
@mrcooldude964 The Bible and 'God' (aka mankind) have said many other things about many other subjects that people don't pay any attention to any longer unless it helps their cause like the whole anti-gay argument. Let's assume there is a God for a moment. God created everything but he didn't create gay people? Riiiiiiiiight. Or better yet, he is letting 'Satan' allow these people to damn themselves? Riiiiiiiight. I'm so glad that Christianity exists to promote peace and love...
@anooseholay god didnt create people gay. but those that chose to live in that perverse, lustful, lifestyle god warns to stop it and come to him while they still can,
jesus died for us so that through him we have a way to the father god in heaven. its up to us where we spend eternity. chose jesus and go to heaven or not chose him and not go to heaven. god gave us that choice, im glad i chose jesus and im going to heaven. will i see you in heaven? its your choice
@mrcooldude964 Jesus has given me a message for you, he says "Tell that dillhole to shut the F@ck UP and stop slandering my name with his crap!" Tough break, dude, I'd listen to Jesus
on judgment day you’ll stand before god and god will be sad and say (WHY DIDNT YOU RECIEVE ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE) god will have tears in his eyes and say, look how many people I sent to tell you Jesus is the only way but you rejected them and even mocked them for having received me, then god will turn and walk away and you’ll hear screams and gnashing of teeth and feel evil and realize you’re in hell and god is gone for eternity
what the hell is wrong with america why are they scared of homosexuals getting married and christian protesters are using the bible as a defense against protesters who support gay rights we have to be civil about this not hating on them when jesus was on this on this earth he told everyone to love each other but homosexuals cant love each other???!!! thats what protesters against gay marriage are saying this world needs to change and i am proud to say i support gay rights dont hate start loving.
i think saying no to gay marrige is like saying no to inter-racial marriage. whats the big deal, its love, their love is between them, it doesnt affect you.
@sameritaco i know right, the argument these loons use is "samesex marriage will open doors for ANYTHING to get married" well it was heterosex marriage that paved the way for same sex marriage, why not abolish that, nip the whole dilemma in the bud???
Separation of Church and State - marriage is a religious institution...so what's the big deal? Marriage is technically a bond between one man and one woman...it's different than a civil union.
@pianowiz1025 Marriage is not a religious institution. It's a legal binding. Atheists get married. Your religion has nothing to do with marriage. Sorry.
geez have u noticed that all the "yes" ads for prop 8 dont allow comments??? they cant take criticism, and their ads are just SAD. bad actors, and bad reasons. prop 8 breeds hate--thumbs up if u agree!!
I love how people who don't support gay marriage think they can make up for it by supporting civil unions. That's like saying, "Yeah, I support the equality of black people, but I think they should still drink out of separate water fountains."
There is no way to convince a delusioned and brainwashed homosexuals offenders or they who believe in the perverted homosexual lifestyle. These people are utterly lost! The depraved and evil knows no bounds. Like in the days of Noah darkness has crept back into our lives and our world. It will no doubt be dealt with by God who they only rekindle the wrath of his furry. Judgment day is comming and none to soon. While evil flourishes the righteuous suffer. Pray for Justice and the Lords return!
A law against the marriage of gays is unconstitutional in the US. The constitution of that country clearly says that state and church are seperated. So anyone who denies homosexuals the right to marry based on religous understandings of moral violated the US constitution. What's the fine for that again?
If gays are being discriminated and that we are all forcing gays to be isolated and put restrictions on gays, then might as well go back to the 1960s when blacks were treated how gays are treated now...
if it is unnatural then why has it been observed in over 200 other spieices? Why has the DNA to cause it not died out, why through MRI scans have we found actual differences in the brains of gay and straight people, why do hermaphiditic speices still exsist (there sex is homosexual because they are one sex), why have nations with gay equality not colapsed, why do people say "I had a feeling ever since I was a child..." is it unnatural, shouldn't we not be able to find it in nature?
Descrimination is Descrimination. You can't justify it or hide it with that argument, "It's against the Bible" or "Well half the nation would start a riot". The 21st century may be idiotic, but we are open minded (somewhat). To those of you against it: Homosexuality isn't effecting you- you're effecting Homosexuality
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN Exactly, besides..doing a lot of things is against the bible..like..eating shellfish! No more Red Lobster for the ignorant Californians!
Deviants are worst then animals ! Animals know where they belong, what is their role in this world. Samesex lust, homosexual psychosis are acquired characteristics - it has nothing to do with Biblical disproval, it simply is sick as an act, fisting, rimming, anal/oral penetration of diseased individuals of the same gender, hepatitis, AIDS, gonorrhea, syphilis, hemorrhoids, 80% more frequent in homosexuals ! And our children must adopt to it ? Animals have more common sense !
@Drwilliamsm45 whoa man, you seem to know a LOT on homo sex, how many dudes have you rimmed buddyboy, im guessing you don't have the tightest shitter in your pack
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN I agree. Lets stop all the arguements. For those who do not like homosexuals you have nothing to worry about. The Homosexuals will all be dead soon from AIDS, Suicide, drug overdoses, domestic vilence and finally good old fashioned Gay Bashing.
@jonathanUtah1 let me guess another typical jock from the mormon church shame on you. instead of hoping for them to died you might feel pity for them maybe when its someone close to you that is going through it.
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN Homosexuality does affect everyone. It spreads disease, and the federal government is spending more on AIDs research than it does on other diseases that affect more people. Aids is preventable, but homosexuals insist on spreading it. They do it on purpose.
@angusmcpherson thats pretty general, i have friends who are gay and they dont have diseases, your saying because your gay you will spread a diseases maybe the only disease around here is your attiude that causes this whole hating LGTB . I work with gay people and they have no problem at all. shame on you
@domipurcell No, your remarks are general and unproven. The public health is more important than sexual freedom. Your friends prove nothing. You have to look at the health statistics, which you haven't done.
@angusmcpherson yeah right, so your saying that gays sleeps with eveyrone and anything to catch diseases, i know for the fact that my friends dont sleep around like your accusing them, your stone age thinking is the reason for all this hate, all this aids, hate bullshit is like from people like you, general and unproven i work with these kids and i have been with them thick and thing so i dont need health statistics its falls down to one simple thing respect for you and for your partner.
@angusmcpherson last time i check hetrosexual guys do the same thing, so is it ok to sleep with alot of girls and pass on ganoreara on people. health statistic can say anything you have to have down hand experiences and knowledge and education to deal with it, i guess you dont.
@NeoAnimeCT It isn't, but those unions never have equal rights and benefits that marriage do.
flavorysoup 3 weeks ago
@roninrage18 How is it not biggotry? It is denying gay couples the right to marry and the tax benefits/other benefits given to straight married couples.
flavorysoup 3 weeks ago
Soddom and Gomorrah or BUST!!!
zenophon007 3 weeks ago
I love Molly so much and the fact that she supports this makes me love her even more
x3peterpan 3 weeks ago
Gay marriage is false marriage.
RepentAmerica454 4 months ago
@RepentAmerica454 religious marriage is false marriage
gay marriage is true marriage
mermaidsareppl222 4 months ago
@RepentAmerica454 religion has nothing to do with marriage
IrishFriendsFan 3 months ago
@RepentAmerica454 The only kind of marriage that is false is if a marriage isnt based on love. That's the truth. Deal with it you fucking bigot.
phoenix1985 3 months ago
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RepentAmerica454 3 months ago
there's no right or wrong answer for prop 8, it's just personal reference
malejames90 5 months ago
@kenatlaw What about all the cases that homosexuality occurs in nature?
godmaderainbows 5 months ago
@godmaderainbows Name one. I have a minor in animal science, and the closest thing I ever saw to animal homosexuality was primates who engage in mock copulations when competing for a mate. And if we can gauge human behavior by animals, polar bears tend to kill or starve the weaker, older bears who can't fend for themselves by knocking them out of the the prime fishing grounds. Maybe we should result to the rule of the tooth and claw if human behavior should parrot the animal kingdom.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
wow the no guy is hot.
DonnaSuggarz 5 months ago
whos the guy on mollys arm???..
art1ej 6 months ago
I love how all of the Yes on prop 8 commercials I've seen have the comments disabled, but the No on 8 and NOH8 ads have thriving comments sections.
Especially since most of the Yes on 8 ads include various arguments about free speech....
RuinOrPeace 7 months ago 35
@RuinOrPeace Probably because homosexuals do not accept polite discourse. In Nevada we voted on Prop. 2, which allowed NV not to recognize gay marriages in other states. I had a "Yes on 2" sign in my front yard. My house was spray painted "BRAINWASHED FOOL" and the back window to my BMW was slashed (it was a 95 convertible). If I disagree with gay marriage because I believe homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, not an orientation, I am a homophobe, a bigot, a racist, etc. I'm not.
kenatlaw 6 months ago
@kenatlaw Saying homosexuals don't accept polite discourse is about as plausible as saying Asians or left-handed people do not accept polite discourse.
NegaRose13 5 months ago
@NegaRose13 I base my assertion on my vandalized house, a torched car in San Diego (the lawyer who was defending the Boy Scouts of America), a death threat, the protests outside the Mormon temple in L.A., the beating of a "Colorado for Family Values Representative" and nine years as a prosecutor, three years on sex crimes, where gay activists stormed the courthouse re male prostitutes. Do gays have a word for someone who politely disagrees that homosexuality is conduct and not an orientation?
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw Well I am very sorry that has happened to you. No one deserves that. However, there's still no need to lump all homosexuals under the same category.
NegaRose13 5 months ago
@NegaRose13 I also worked in law enforcement for eleven years, two as an investigator, nine as a prosecutor before becoming a patent lawyer, my current occupation. It is a myth that same sex couples are essentially "normal" people with an "orientation" towards the same gender. Hundreds of gay people, dozens of books and scientific studies formed my opinions, including BGLSA when I was in law school and other organizations promoting the myth that homosexuality is nature, not preference.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, the word for people who try to promote the myth that sexual orientation is merely "conduct", is "uninformed".
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 See, there is no neutral or polite word for someone who disagrees with the hypothesis that homosexuality is inborn and not a choice. "Uninformed" means I'm ignorant, bias, and wrong. I have three degrees, one in the hard science (engineering), a minor in animal science, and a law degree and am admitted to the patent bar. I am very educated, have read a lot of books, and do not believe homosexuality is inborn, anymore than promiscuity, drug addiction, etc. are inborn.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, well, would you feel better if people just acknowledged you were "wrong"? How can one possible find a polite word to describe someone who either doesn't know or accept reality? It can't be done, and in the end, why should it be? Shouldn't we use accurate words to describe a negative quality?
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Again, you assume that I am "wrong." You cannot accept my differing opinion. I respect your BELIEF (not fact) that homosexuality is inborn; I believe it is a lifestyle choice. In 1974 homosexuality was removed from the DSM IV under tremendous pressure, in 1980 40% of psychiatrists wanted it put back. The "gay gene" turned out to be fraudulent. Assuming homosexuality is inborn, so is schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, etc. Does that mean we should not treat these diseases?
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, you're convinced you are right, even tho' there's zero empirical proof anywhere (outside of rightwing or "religious" propaganda) that being gay is a "choice". I am sure I'm right. Any minority can be labeled defective, if looked at long enough through a critical eye. There's no heterosexual gene, either, so if it's inborn, is it a sickness that needs to be treated? (Most people who are married would say "yes", LOL!!!) No one will accept a differing opinion he is CERTAIN is absurd.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 No proof that heterosexuality is inborn? How do humans reproduce? If men were not attracted to women and vice versa, the human race would not exist. Assuming you believe in evolution, as do I, heterosexuality is inborn in every mammal. I have been married, only once, for 18 years and strongly disagree that heterosexuality needs to be treated. It has been recognized as the norm for centuries. I accept your opinion on homosexuality and expect the same courtesy.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, the point is, sexuality itself is inborn. Anti-gays keep insisting that homosexuality is a "choice". So if folks "choose" their sexuality, then the argument must go that they "choose" to be str8 too. Hetero men will always be attracted to str8 women, but that's doesn't mean anything else is bad. Your argument is akin to saying, "If everyone in the world were black, the white race would not exist." Such a scenario is never going to happen; the entire world will never be gay, so relax,
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I'm very relaxed, Contrary to the gay dogma, only .06 of 1% of men have had sex with another man, generous estimates put gaysat 2%. That 10% figure that gets thrown around is based on gays assumed to be in the closet. Humans, like all mammals, are born with sexual desires to the opposite sex, to reproduce. We are lucky we can control reproduction, we should do a better job of it. Homosexuality is an aberration, a defect, and should be treated, not made a civil rights issue.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
Gay dogma? LOL! So every scientist, psychiatrist, and medical professional who disagrees with your....colorful interpretation of reality is gay? Humans, like all mammals, do procreate, of course, but not all of them are heterosexual, or exclusively heterosexual. There's absolutely no empirical, rational proof anywhere that homosexuality is an aberration or a defect, except in your slanted wishful thinking. Don't get me wrong; you are free to think gays are defective, but the reality refutes it.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Peter Tatchell, founder of OUTRAGE! a homosexual group in AU, wrote on Spiked that he agrees with the SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS that sexuality is not inborn. Homosexual activists have for decades engaged in a search for an "excuse" for homosexual behavior. But even if such a gene were discovered (Hamer's "gay gene" was fake), similar predispositions likely exist for alcoholism, schizophrenia, and depression. Should we deem these conditions "orientation" and demand govt. recognition?
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, of course, you're misrepresenting Tatchell's writing. He acknowledges that there's no one, single gay gene (just like there's no single hetero gene), but he (like recognized medical, psychiatric & scientific organizations) acknowledges there are biological conditions which predispose a person to be gay. Vainly trying to correlate sexual orientation (homo or hetero) to conditions which damage or even destroy people's lives is absurd. Nothing about being gay is inherently dangerous.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I respectfully disagree. There is no single "gay gene," but humans, mammals, are biologically programmed to reproduce. Boys start to notice girls and vice-versa, and 99% of the world engages in normal, heterosexual sex in response to these feelings. Religions attempt to regulate sex to marriage, but the idea of abstinence is seen as far right and unrealistic. I have no problem w/ gay sex, but do not want to recognize gay "marriage" based on a false argument of "orientation."
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw writes, "humans, mammals, are biologically programmed to reproduce."
The str8 ones, sure. That's why they are heterosexual. Other humans are biologically & emotionally hard-wired for same-sex attraction & relationships.
"do not want to recognize gay "marriage" based on a false argument of "orientation.""
Except the fact that sexual orientation is innate and unchangeable been proven true and accurate, which is the crux of the issue, and a major reason why anti-gays' stance fails.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 It has not been proven that sexual preference is innate nor unchangeable. Indeed, 66% of people surveyed who labeled themselves "gay" said they COULD change their preference. No one is "hard wired" to be gay any more than someone can be "hard wired" to be an alcoholic, a Mormon, an adulterer, etc. Gays are free to live any way they choose; but the argument that they are persecuted minority akin to African Americans is utterly false.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw claims, "It has not been proven that sexual preference is innate nor unchangeable."
You are under no obligation to believe every credible, recognized scientific, medical, psychiatric, and educational institution on this matter.
"Indeed, 66% of people surveyed who labeled themselves "gay" said they COULD change their preference."
This simply isn't true, sorry. The only people who make claims of this nature are those indoctrinated & harassed by religious institutions' misinformation.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Don't suppose you can cite any of these "recognized scientific medical, psychiatric and educational institutions." Gay dogma--"10% of the population is gay, you are born that way, can't change, every scientific study supports us." Gays are worse than any religious institution when it comes to brainwashing their followers, generalizing those that disagree (homophobes) and not being open to the idea that sexuality is a choice and should be treated with therapy/medication.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, we both know you don't want to, or perhaps can't cope with, the facts. That's why you won't do the research yourself. Have you ever wondered why you need to spend so much of your life trying to denigrate minorities, rather than putting something, anything positive out into the world? I've acknowledge many times that you have every right to believe whatever you need to, but what pay-off are you getting, wallowing in ignorance and prejudice?
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I am married to a deaf Jewish woman. My only other long term relationship was with a woman who was half Jamaican (black) with a Chinese mother. She died. I love all people, gay/straight/bi-sexual. I do not spend my life denigrating minorities. I have given thousands to cancer research, started a HOPE program, most participants were black, when I was a prosecutor. I'm a happy patent lawyer. I went to UNR and Tulane, both had med schools. Both said sexuality was a choice.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
I have read a lot of books, pro and anti-gay books, I have guided groups of gay climbers to the top of Rainier (good tippers). I have no problems with gays and am hardly "wallowing in ignorance/prejudice." I have three degrees, am both an engineer and a lawyer, a climber, a diver, a husband/father, cancer survivor. I RESPECTFULLY disagree that homosexuality is inborn. I have never had a homosexual man or woman "respectfully" disagree with me. Have had my house vandalized for Yes on 2 sign
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, well, as previously acknowledged, you will continue to believe whatever you need to. I've done my best to help you.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I don't need to believe anything. My religion is truth. I believe what is true, not the shifting winds of political correctness or various leaders. You need your belief--and that's all it is a belief--that sexuality is inborn. You think I need "help," you accuse me of "wallowing in ignorance" and being "misinformed." Has it ever crossed your mind you are wrong? I have, that is why I researched the issue the best I could before deciding how to vote on Question 2 here in NV.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, I've already acknowledged that if you need to believe your religion is "truth", that's your right. I won't argue the point, because such convictions are based on blind faith and denial of reality, in order to justify your chosen religious lifestyle. If it makes you feel safer, more superior, or whatever, that need clearly overrules your interest in accepting the facts. No problem.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 You need to believe your dogma that sexuality is inborn, I won't argue the opinions of thousands of scientists, psychiatrists, and psychologists because you won't accept the reality that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. You need to believe quasi, fabricated science and pundits in order to justify your lifestyle. Your need to feel justified, normal, superior and accepted. This overrules your interest in accepting the facts. No problem.
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, yes, I do need to accept and believe the truth. I'd hardly argue with you about those "thousands" of doubters, all of whom exist squarely in your imagination. If these imaginary friends help make you feel better about yourself, so be it. My "lifestyle" of accepting reality need not be justified, however. I will bid you adieu, now that I know my best efforts to enlighten you have been for naught.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I bid you adieu, adios, good-bye; obviously you cannot accept truth, facts, or science. Give my best to your leaders and imaginary friends who you blindly follow, oblivious to the proven scientific fact that homosexuality is more a trait than polygamy, adultery, or alcoholism. It is a choice, you've made your choice, and now feel the need to preach to the world that your choice is an orientation. You are more brainwashed than any Mormon I've met. Hágoónee' (goodbye).
kenatlaw 5 months ago
@kenatlaw, for someone who claims not to be gay, you're...relentlessly anal. How many times do I have to tell you it's over before you stop obsessing? And how amusing that you've fallen into the typical idiot's trap of assuming I must be gay, simply because I concretely and effectively refute your...colorful reinterpretation of reality? I suppose anti-gays are so used to deluding yourselves that being gay is a "choice", that deluding yourselves about everything else, too, comes easier.
GodCreatesGays2 5 months ago
@RuinOrPeace LMAO they just don't don't want their bigotry to be exposed or they can't take the fact that people don't embrace their discrimination XD
gaylolful 4 months ago
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thats because youtube is overrun by bad mouth far left anti christian anti conservative liberals who mark everyone as racists homophobic sexist etc etc who disagrees with em, and no one has to hear them complaining about everything they dont like
Angellove1220 3 months ago
@Angellove1220 Well since you are racist bigoted sexist homophobes deal with it. It's not about what we like or dont like. Its about truth vs lies. We tell the truth and you and others like you tell nothing but lies. You are incapable of telling the truth. You tell nothing but half truths and flat out lies. You are against everything America stands for. Freedom, truth, justice, and equality. Everything you are against. Love always wins which means you will ultimately lose. Deal with it.
phoenix1985 3 months ago
@Angellove1220 Hypocritical much? ;)
Shimmyzmizz 2 months ago
@RuinOrPeace i agree, even though i was on the yes on 8 side, disabled comments show a fear of criticism and lacking ability to debate your video.
MrFenix174 2 months ago
@RuinOrPeace : that's because there's a lot of whining little fags that will pick petty little things to complain about in the yes on 8 ads.....they don't actually bring a real debate just "oh this guy looks stupid cuz he supports yes on 8" shit like that.
knowatimean 2 months ago
@knowatimean really? And using derogatory terms like fags faggots dykes sodomites are real ways to debate?
idaman12345 1 month ago
@oddtreenow2 I oppose gay marriage, but it has nothing to do with my religion or lack of it. I oppose gay marriage b/c as a lawyer, I recognize that marriage is a contract between two people and the state. The state has an interest in said union because it is possible that union will produce children who need to be educated or otherwise need resources. Try as they might, a gay couple can't make a baby, yet my position brands me a "homophobe," not someone who has a different political position.
kenatlaw 7 months ago
@kenatlaw No, it just makes you an idiot.
beejyludes 6 months ago
@beejyludes An idiot willing and capable of kicking your ass, if it's not too sore from your romp with Ramon last night.
kenatlaw 6 months ago
@kenatlaw But they can still adopt.
jonniethegirl 6 months ago
@jonniethegirl My wife is deaf, we were not allowed to adopt hearing children. Before you adopt, you have to undergo intensive "suitability inquiries," social workers coming to your house all hours of the day. We adopted a deaf child, but it took one year and close to $20K in legal fees. Suppose a social worker says a gay couple is not suitable, are they branded "bigots" and "homophobes?" I have a psychiatrist I use as a witness, and he said every homosexual he has is a total misfit.
kenatlaw 6 months ago
@kenatlaw
"I oppose gay marriage b/c as a lawyer, I recognize that marriage is a contract between two people and the state.The state has an interest in said union because it is possible that union will produce children who need to be educated or otherwise need resources. Try as they might, a gay couple can't make a baby, "
This. We shouldn't allow gay people to marry for the same reason we don't let infertile people, old people, or those who do not plan on having children to marry. Wait.....
MrImmoli 6 months ago
@MrImmoli Why do we have to limit to marriage to two people? Why can't a Muslim have two wives? I did not say that marriage was only for having children (after cancer I was told I was sterile, we did have a child and adopted a deaf child later). I said that for centuries marriage was regulated because "it is possible" that said union will produce children.Maybe I was born with too big of a heart, I need two wives, can't decide . . . I DEMAND that the state recognize my polygamous marriage.
kenatlaw 6 months ago
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@kenatlaw
"I said that for centuries marriage was regulated because "it is possible" that said union will produce children"
And with infertile or old couples it is not possible, thus if you follow your logic for gay marriage, those should be illegal also.
"I DEMAND that the state recognize my polygamous marriage."
Nice slippery slop fallacy and issue ignoring, but humoring you. The state should encourage these. A man can pregnant two women at once, making baby-making much more efficient.
MrImmoli 6 months ago
I wonder why three people who love each other can't marry. I'm sure there are lots of Muslims who feel they cannot practice their religion without plural wives. If gays say: "No, marriage is between two people," why not three? If Webster's dictionary of marriage is not the guideline, maybe the U.S. govt. should give back all the property it confiscated from Mormons before statehood for their practice of polygamy.
kenatlaw 7 months ago
@kenatlaw actually I'm a Muslim and marriages between more than two people is not allowed I mean a man can marry a 4 women if he wants but the women can't marry each other which is one of the many things I don't like about this I'm totally with you on the 3 people marrying each other
yoyo94xo 7 months ago
@yoyo94xo My law partner is from Iran, he said that taking of multiple wives, at least in Persia, is approved if one is willing to financially and emotionally support the additional wife. Obama's father was not granted permission to stay at Harvard because he had multiple wives in Kenya, or at least Harvard believed as much. A lot of groups throughout history have practiced polygamy, and every argument used to justify gay marriage can justify polygamy.
kenatlaw 7 months ago
i htink its funny when peopel say "SAY YES TO SAVE THE CHILDREN"
I don't ever remember waking up one day, saying "OMG i'm turning 13, okay i have to make a choice, am I going to be gay or straight ?!?!??! omg running out of time, okay GAY ! i choose to get discrimnated and hated against!
And i'm sure my sister didn't wake up one day and decide that she'll be straight
Your either gay or striaght. You either prefer dick or vagina. You know what you think about whne your 'under the covers',
ukpkmkk 7 months ago
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Please don't say the LGBT community has framed themselves as "martyrs". Recently, where I live there was a gay couple holding hands downtown one night. Some people apparently didn't like this and the couple was beaten to death. Now a martyr is someone who dies to protect their belief. So let me ask, do you think they chose to be violently murdered to "push a social agenda" that night? Or were they just 2 loving people who wanted to enjoy their life, only to have it cut short?
sadisticXvampyre 7 months ago
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@HelloKittyM4ssacre 1 cor 1:18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
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mark 13:23, 32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Be on guard! Be alert ! You do not know when that time will come.
when someone comes along saying the end will be on a certon date, know hes not correct and he is way out of the bible, ill be here may 22nd,
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
@mrcooldude964 didnt you get his memo
he was off by 5 months
judgement day is october 21st
when that comes and goes, then religion will be shown to be a sham
idaman12345 8 months ago
Makes me a happy to live in Canada where homosexual marriage is legal everywhere and I am not even gay.
Chaoitcme 8 months ago 28
@Chaoitcme Maan :) You are awesome
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itsmecc72 8 months ago
@HelloKittyM4ssacre they have trips to the holy lands all the time. go to your travel agency and book a flight and check it out,
why dont i believe in buddah, allah, zeus ect? because they are man made false gods and have nothing to do with eternity. i only service the one who died on the cross for me and that rose to life in three days
Rom 1:25 they exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised
mrcooldude964 9 months ago
@mrcooldude964 Yeah that's arrogant and contradictory. You don't think all those other religions say the exact same thing about christianity? Each religion has its "Proof" that their religion is the only real one, but that truth isn't solid in any way shape or form. Why? Because if you show'd me Jesus' body I'd have to question how you know about him when records of his life weren't taken for years after they happened plenty of time for the stories to get warped and blown out of proportion.
WizkidDreamer28 8 months ago
@WizkidDreamer28 its not about any religion. its about recieving jesus while you still can. even in jesus day. jesus did great miracles and talked with people and walked with him. but they still reject him. im fact they spit on him and hung him on a cross and killed him. only way to find jesus is to seek him from your heart. all who seek him will find him. if you havent found him its because you dont want to,
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
@mrcooldude964 Seriously...? If you walked up to me on the street and said that to me I'd probably look at you like a mad man. And I hope anyone who's never heard of Jesus would too because you completely and utterly dodged the question. Read it again! How do you know that Jesus is real? That the book you hold so near and dear is real? That all other books similar to your book are false? Quite frankly your previous answer was so far from an answer it was offensive......
WizkidDreamer28 8 months ago
@WizkidDreamer28, what proof do you want? people in jesus time talked to jesus. ate dinner with him and still would deny hes gods, in face they beat him, spit on him and hung him on a cross to die, (just as you would do) there is no proof that will be real to you, , those who seek jesus will find him. those who truly seek jesus. jesus will make himself real to him. if your not seelking him youll never find him
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
@HelloKittyM4ssacre evidence? take a trip to the holy land and they will take you on a tour where jesus walked and lived and you can even see the tomb where jesus rose to life. you can even stand in the tomb if you like ,
time is short. jesus is coming soon.
mrcooldude964 9 months ago
I love how the yes on prop 8 guy is wearing that Roman stuff, while the Romans actually never had any problems with gays. Nero even was bisexual.
TheIngefied 9 months ago
@HelloKittyM4ssacre. when jesus walked the earth he would walk and talk with people and they still refused to see he was god, jesus would do signs and wonders and still they rejected him as god, not only rejected him but beat him, hung him on a cross and killed him, if jesus appreared to you , you would still deny hes god, so what proof you looking for? its about faith, your heart is hard, if you ever truly want jesus then he can make himself real to you.
mrcooldude964 9 months ago
@HelloKittyM4ssacre youll see it. but when you do it will be to late. thats why jesus says. today is the day of salvation. but saved now. we dont even know if we will be alive tomorrow. eternity is nothing to mess around with. eternity is a long time
mrcooldude964 9 months ago
Oh gosh, Molly would feel HORRIBLE .... quick, someone call the whaaambulance!
whatupyoism 9 months ago
Oh I would feel HORRIBLE ... quick, someone call the wahbulance!
whatupyoism 9 months ago
obviously not all californians are equal. judges overturn majority votes.
GoldenbanjoDJ 9 months ago
VOTE NO on prop 8 F all these conservatives let's change america and make it a better and more rqual place. Thumbs up this comment for the world to see!
Tupacer21 10 months ago
Have you ever noticed all the "Yes to Prop 8" ads are very poorly-acted and seem to be straining to find an argument against gay marriage, wheras all the "No to Prop 8" ads are well acted, normally pretty funny and well-informed?
I wonder why?
peaceandrosegirl 10 months ago
You're right, on one ad the actors' English was very poor (although they justfy this by stating all walks of life condemn gay marriage,lol) It seems they hire insincere uneducated people to promote prop 8, and I'm sure you noticed that all their commercials are predicated on completely subjective and false claims, only fortified by church authorities. It's kind of shocking though, what with the Mormon LDS extorting $22 Million from their own community, you'd think they'd afford better publicity
MIS315 9 months ago
if molly ringwald can put lipstick with her boobs, gays should marry
XOPAUXO 11 months ago
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Acording to the Biblawl, marriage is between one man, and his sister, and her rapist, kitchen condiment, a gal who's kidnapped and raped, a few more women, an adulterer, a pack of raped whores, 700 hundred wives, 300 concubines, and the help, and the son who has murdered his brother. But it is not between one man and another man (or woman and another woman), because, well, that would be immoral.
TheThordir 11 months ago
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"So let me get this straight...Larry King is getting his 8th divorce, Elizabeth Taylor is possibly getting married for a 9th time, Britney Spears had a 55 hour marriage, Jesse James and Tiger Woods, while married, were having sex with EVERYONE. Yet, the idea of same-sex marriage is going to destroy the institution of marriage? Really. Please re-post to your page if you agree - Proud to support equal rights for ALL.
SavMentalityOfficial 11 months ago
Thank you Molly.
SnivelyTheGlamful 11 months ago
REPENT
Ryabtg 11 months ago
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All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.
He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.
Those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus...will pay the penalty of eternal destruction.
Repent and believe in the gospel.
For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Ryabtg 11 months ago
The girl comes running in and "Yes" goes "What is that?" .. xD
WidarsHall 1 year ago
@WidarsHall "we're gonna go spend the day with our kids" and yes is all "what about family?!" ... ^^
vernemeton 1 year ago
1147 PEOPLE?! YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST GAYS?! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!! YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS WHO ARE TRYING TO FIT IN WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE A RACIST!!!! HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL!!! AND ALL YOUR DOING TO OPPOSE GAY MARRAGE IS THE BIBLE?! WHAT VERSE IS WHAT OPPOSES GAY MARRAGES! INFACT YOU MIGHT AS WELL CALL HOMOPHOBIA RACISM BECAUSE ITS TECHNICLY THE SAME THING EXCEPT IT JUDGES SEXUAL ORIENTATION INSTEAD OF RACE!!! AASSHHOOLLEESS!!!
spyfreakm16 1 year ago
OH MY GOD ITS MOLLY RINGWALD!
sorry i didnt believe it at first and i see her and
wow i loved her in breakfast club....
sorry carry on with the prop 8 debates
LittleMsMadness 1 year ago
I love Steve Young - he was an awesome Quarterback and he was left handed. Very rare.
jonathanUtah1 1 year ago
Oh christ one day it will not e important...move on humans let evolution do its thing...stop trying to go back and just move forward...now smoke a bowl and think of love...
Fiorwestcoast 1 year ago
@Fiorwestcoast Now were talking! Think I'll go light on now. You know if you stay high you don't give a shit about alot of things that don't matter?
cursivedragon 1 year ago
Marriage shouldn't be allowed for gays or heterosexuals.
Jefgg 1 year ago 10
@Jefgg why should'nt it thier just like you aren't they
yoyo94xo 7 months ago
so copying Mac and PC
mmbicoshake 1 year ago
aids
hornick18 1 year ago
you have to give props to the mormons for all this shit on prop 8 , they use god as an excuses for their attack, just like the blacks was cursed in their belief so seriously they should mine their own fucking business and leave people to loving who they want , if they dont like it then mind your own business, the whole scare tactic about other issue is a joke.
domipurcell 1 year ago
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YES ON PROP 8!!!!!!!!
SuperRobby321 1 year ago
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1 cor 6:9-10, Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders will inherit the kingdom of God.
no god didnt creat people gay but if your in that life style you want to get out and come to jesus soon. .(jesus will forgive you for living in sin if you come to him)
mrcooldude964 1 year ago
Heh, i can't believe it took us 2 years to realize that this was unconstitutional. Whatever happened to "the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness"? Heh, grown ups these days.
RoxinRoxf 1 year ago 16
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to this couple a man putting his penis on another mans butt is good and ok. whats god say about it? Rom 1:26-27, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
i agree with god.
mrcooldude964 1 year ago
@mrcooldude964 The Bible and 'God' (aka mankind) have said many other things about many other subjects that people don't pay any attention to any longer unless it helps their cause like the whole anti-gay argument. Let's assume there is a God for a moment. God created everything but he didn't create gay people? Riiiiiiiiight. Or better yet, he is letting 'Satan' allow these people to damn themselves? Riiiiiiiight. I'm so glad that Christianity exists to promote peace and love...
anooseholay 1 year ago
@anooseholay god didnt create people gay. but those that chose to live in that perverse, lustful, lifestyle god warns to stop it and come to him while they still can,
jesus died for us so that through him we have a way to the father god in heaven. its up to us where we spend eternity. chose jesus and go to heaven or not chose him and not go to heaven. god gave us that choice, im glad i chose jesus and im going to heaven. will i see you in heaven? its your choice
mrcooldude964 1 year ago
@mrcooldude964 gay people are born that way they dont choose toe be gay
its your choice to be brainwashed by religion
but its not gays choice to be that way
idaman12345 1 year ago
@mrcooldude964 Jesus has given me a message for you, he says "Tell that dillhole to shut the F@ck UP and stop slandering my name with his crap!" Tough break, dude, I'd listen to Jesus
MIS315 9 months ago
on judgment day you’ll stand before god and god will be sad and say (WHY DIDNT YOU RECIEVE ME WHILE YOU HAD THE CHANCE) god will have tears in his eyes and say, look how many people I sent to tell you Jesus is the only way but you rejected them and even mocked them for having received me, then god will turn and walk away and you’ll hear screams and gnashing of teeth and feel evil and realize you’re in hell and god is gone for eternity
mrcooldude964 9 months ago
@mrcooldude964 Your church f@cks you up the ass every week, why not preach thAT?
MIS315 9 months ago
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@mrcooldude964 Your church f@cks you up the ass every week, why not preach thAT?
MIS315 9 months ago
1142 Bigots... so far how many more....
vermanshane 1 year ago
I love Molly & this vid:)
floridagurlll 1 year ago
what the hell is wrong with america why are they scared of homosexuals getting married and christian protesters are using the bible as a defense against protesters who support gay rights we have to be civil about this not hating on them when jesus was on this on this earth he told everyone to love each other but homosexuals cant love each other???!!! thats what protesters against gay marriage are saying this world needs to change and i am proud to say i support gay rights dont hate start loving.
TheMigster87 1 year ago 3
@TheMigster87 Don't hate and start sodomizing.
angusmcpherson 1 year ago
@TheMigster87 true that, all the way
domipurcell 1 year ago
its weird that the yes on prop 8 vid doesn't allow comments and no on prop 8 does...
doesn't matter anyway prop 8 is overturned.
plutos95 1 year ago 2
"What do you mean your kids? What about family??"
BrittanysMusicVideos 1 year ago
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Molly Ringwald has gone fat. No wonder she's turned into a fag hag, then.
ItIsNotOkayToBeGay 1 year ago
@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay you a secret homosexual huh? its okay we embrace you.
cabrina23 1 year ago
thanks molly Ringwald
ASDFGHJKLtierns 1 year ago
i think saying no to gay marrige is like saying no to inter-racial marriage. whats the big deal, its love, their love is between them, it doesnt affect you.
LizTheLyre 1 year ago 22
@LizTheLyre Don't you get it? The religious right is against love. It's hate that they don't have a problem with.
Marchant2 1 year ago
@Marchant2 ahhh, now i see. we can hate all we wont, but love is a no-no. that makes perfect sense.
LizTheLyre 1 year ago
it's funny how homosexuality wouldn't be a problem if there was no heterosexuality.
sameritaco 1 year ago
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@sameritaco i know right, the argument these loons use is "samesex marriage will open doors for ANYTHING to get married" well it was heterosex marriage that paved the way for same sex marriage, why not abolish that, nip the whole dilemma in the bud???
MIS315 9 months ago
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haha, prop8 passed, na na na na na
thomasadamnelson 1 year ago
@thomasadamnelson Actually, it was repealed today, na na na na na.
roshylov 1 year ago
Separation of Church and State - marriage is a religious institution...so what's the big deal? Marriage is technically a bond between one man and one woman...it's different than a civil union.
pianowiz1025 1 year ago
@pianowiz1025 Marriage is not a religious institution. It's a legal binding. Atheists get married. Your religion has nothing to do with marriage. Sorry.
sarahseayx 1 year ago 5
whats the worst thing that would happen half of all marriges will end in devorce
Eh durr it happning now!!!
kane18O 1 year ago 4
geez have u noticed that all the "yes" ads for prop 8 dont allow comments??? they cant take criticism, and their ads are just SAD. bad actors, and bad reasons. prop 8 breeds hate--thumbs up if u agree!!
GetOuterMySpace 1 year ago 28
I love how people who don't support gay marriage think they can make up for it by supporting civil unions. That's like saying, "Yeah, I support the equality of black people, but I think they should still drink out of separate water fountains."
alanna0617 1 year ago 22
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There is no way to convince a delusioned and brainwashed homosexuals offenders or they who believe in the perverted homosexual lifestyle. These people are utterly lost! The depraved and evil knows no bounds. Like in the days of Noah darkness has crept back into our lives and our world. It will no doubt be dealt with by God who they only rekindle the wrath of his furry. Judgment day is comming and none to soon. While evil flourishes the righteuous suffer. Pray for Justice and the Lords return!
80sparky08 1 year ago
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80sparky08 1 year ago
Excellent video and makes a wonderful point. And lol at seeing Molly Ringwald!
TheJesusSucks 1 year ago 2
wtf y so many no votes
ilovetheview47 1 year ago 3
@ilovetheview47 the bible patrol rolled through
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
A law against the marriage of gays is unconstitutional in the US. The constitution of that country clearly says that state and church are seperated. So anyone who denies homosexuals the right to marry based on religous understandings of moral violated the US constitution. What's the fine for that again?
EPR89 1 year ago 5
If gays are being discriminated and that we are all forcing gays to be isolated and put restrictions on gays, then might as well go back to the 1960s when blacks were treated how gays are treated now...
Johnnybabe16 1 year ago 6
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if it is unnatural then why has it been observed in over 200 other spieices? Why has the DNA to cause it not died out, why through MRI scans have we found actual differences in the brains of gay and straight people, why do hermaphiditic speices still exsist (there sex is homosexual because they are one sex), why have nations with gay equality not colapsed, why do people say "I had a feeling ever since I was a child..." is it unnatural, shouldn't we not be able to find it in nature?
cexcells85 1 year ago
Descrimination is Descrimination. You can't justify it or hide it with that argument, "It's against the Bible" or "Well half the nation would start a riot". The 21st century may be idiotic, but we are open minded (somewhat). To those of you against it: Homosexuality isn't effecting you- you're effecting Homosexuality
CrAsHlYbRoKeN 2 years ago 123
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN Exactly, besides..doing a lot of things is against the bible..like..eating shellfish! No more Red Lobster for the ignorant Californians!
azimuth457 1 year ago
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN
Deviants are worst then animals ! Animals know where they belong, what is their role in this world. Samesex lust, homosexual psychosis are acquired characteristics - it has nothing to do with Biblical disproval, it simply is sick as an act, fisting, rimming, anal/oral penetration of diseased individuals of the same gender, hepatitis, AIDS, gonorrhea, syphilis, hemorrhoids, 80% more frequent in homosexuals ! And our children must adopt to it ? Animals have more common sense !
Drwilliamsm45 1 year ago
@Drwilliamsm45 Several breeds of animals engage in homosexual behaviour. Research, then post.
anooseholay 1 year ago
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@Drwilliamsm45 whoa man, you seem to know a LOT on homo sex, how many dudes have you rimmed buddyboy, im guessing you don't have the tightest shitter in your pack
MIS315 9 months ago
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN I agree. Lets stop all the arguements. For those who do not like homosexuals you have nothing to worry about. The Homosexuals will all be dead soon from AIDS, Suicide, drug overdoses, domestic vilence and finally good old fashioned Gay Bashing.
Thank goodness for nature.
jonathanUtah1 1 year ago
@jonathanUtah1 I sure hope you are being sarcastic with those statements, because I have to admit I cant quite be sure...
ziadi666 1 year ago
@jonathanUtah1 let me guess another typical jock from the mormon church shame on you. instead of hoping for them to died you might feel pity for them maybe when its someone close to you that is going through it.
domipurcell 1 year ago
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN Homosexuality does affect everyone. It spreads disease, and the federal government is spending more on AIDs research than it does on other diseases that affect more people. Aids is preventable, but homosexuals insist on spreading it. They do it on purpose.
angusmcpherson 1 year ago
@angusmcpherson thats pretty general, i have friends who are gay and they dont have diseases, your saying because your gay you will spread a diseases maybe the only disease around here is your attiude that causes this whole hating LGTB . I work with gay people and they have no problem at all. shame on you
domipurcell 1 year ago
@domipurcell No, your remarks are general and unproven. The public health is more important than sexual freedom. Your friends prove nothing. You have to look at the health statistics, which you haven't done.
angusmcpherson 1 year ago
@angusmcpherson yeah right, so your saying that gays sleeps with eveyrone and anything to catch diseases, i know for the fact that my friends dont sleep around like your accusing them, your stone age thinking is the reason for all this hate, all this aids, hate bullshit is like from people like you, general and unproven i work with these kids and i have been with them thick and thing so i dont need health statistics its falls down to one simple thing respect for you and for your partner.
domipurcell 1 year ago
@angusmcpherson last time i check hetrosexual guys do the same thing, so is it ok to sleep with alot of girls and pass on ganoreara on people. health statistic can say anything you have to have down hand experiences and knowledge and education to deal with it, i guess you dont.
domipurcell 1 year ago
@domipurcell ganoreara is bad. very bad.
jonathanUtah1 1 year ago
@angusmcpherson SHIT!! WHO TOLD YOU! YOU HEARD NOTHING! CANT HEAR YOU!!!
MIS315 9 months ago
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN People effecting homosexuality is bad - very bad.
jonathanUtah1 1 year ago
@CrAsHlYbRoKeN Im not even gay and can't argue with that. Props.
cursivedragon 1 year ago
homosexuality based on instinct
oncom2008 2 years ago
Reminds me of a PC vs. Mac commercial lol
tatertotter808 2 years ago
THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING!
If you voted 'yes' on prop 8: Tone Down Your Ignorance And Grow A Little RATIONALITY!
Daan088 2 years ago 2
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jonkoepsell 2 years ago