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  • The shooting buildings tip was surprising; not because it was unusual but because I SUCK as spy and I do that.

  • Hey, I saw you arguing at the forums. Although I have no experience in this topic I can say that you put up an excellent fight and are persistent; for that I applaud you.

  • Wow

  • The music is so scary

  • I thought I was good at spy :P

  • A very good and detailed tute, well done the music fits perfectly.

  • For me I sap n stab

  • @pcgeekish only bad engies fall for that.

  • 9:00

    Wrangler releases

  • on another note, i had a fun game on dustbowl, stage 1 cp2 - an enemy engie had his nest in a corner below a walkway - i was disguised as demo, and jumped down on top of the engie, and uncloaked - i stood there for more than 5 mins, with his team running straight past not noticing the teammate standing on the other teammate, before i finally killed him :D

  • I like how you did like a double take at 8:53 :)

  • Dummy engis.That one was a "Defensive".Many Engis play offensive,its harder to deal with em.No hating,just pointed for me.

  • Does the enemy only see you as their team if you are cloaked AND have the disguise on, or is it just when you have a disguise on?

  • @LilAlex3001 nobody can see you with cloak on even if you are disguised. but your allies see you as a spy with a mask on if you are disguised.

  • @BlueBloodW0lf actually, ur team can see u when ur cloaked - they see a faint shimmer similar to what an enemy would see if they bumped into u -- this is too allow ur team to know where u r :)

  • @jamesigall i forgot to mention that lol. i just though it wouldn't be that important to say.

  • Great Gameplay.

  • The guy who posted this might have forgotten about tele fragging

  • i reckon you would do awesome with a cloak and dagger!

  • i have a nice trick i tough of myself.

    if an engeeer with his back agaisnt the wall with his sentry and dispensor near him, u should uncloak when u are in TOP of him, backstab the quicly sap the sentry 1st. this actualy worked for me 2 / 2 times now :D

  • @drkcrstl If you stnad on top of him he can see you -.- If you are cloacked and touch someone they will see you

  • @superphil92 i stand near they dispensers while invisible (disguise) and they dont even notice haha

  • @superphil92 a spy's work should be done as fast as possible, so while cloaked u should jump on top of 1 of his buildings, then on top of engie, decloak imeadetly after landing on top of him, stab, sap sentry 1st, sap dispenser. simple really, just beware the engies teamates ... thats the only problem

  • I was like wtf? at 06:14

  • sapnstab is so god damn easy...

  • 04:52 um lucky?

  • Dont always kill dispencers as they can charge cloak and heal you, also grab the metal from the recently sapped buildings for cloak meter

  • if you press the R (reload) button when in disguise, does it show the animation of you reloading?

  • @WWWWWWVWWWWWWWVWWWWW yes if you fired your revolver before disguising and need to reload

  • too bad some of thee tatics dont work as well...

  • Dude ur really good. What do you think of "the eternal reward"?

  • @Patrickdls its a real fucking prick with that kind of weapon since from the start, you wont be able to disguise, if your lucky enough to kill a clumsy player, you still risk yourself from missing a stab and losing your disguise. so yeah, dont use it

  • @AEDRAL22 You're kidding right? It's an awesome weapon if you're any good at tricky stabs like leaping stabs, stair-stabs, quickstabs, etc. Getting that first kill, especially if you have the whole set, is piss easy and the kills don't show in the killfeed.

    It's hella powerful.

  • Lol, that forced suicide tactic is AWESOME i did NOT know you could do that, haha.

  • 2:43

    lol I did that. I and the Engineer and lots of people were there. They didn't realize I was there xD. Until a Scout saw me

  • Engineers can now use wranglers to stop revolver sniping.

  • @1gamelegend unless they are Poor n Irish

  • SPY SAPPIN MAH BUTT @04:52

  • wrech do same crits dan other melee weapons, 15%

  • Only thing wrong with sap n stab is the sentry moves faster making it near impossible to do.

  • @GiveMeBass93 untrue, i've done it. it takes practice, and i always triple check my sapper is the last weapon i used. u could do the opposite if you wanted, sap then stab but the u run the risk of getting brained with a wrench. if u do it that way your hoping the engy isn't savvy enough to turn around and murder you before you stab him. i'd rather trust my own skills, but hey that's me.

  • @viking977 I only kill playing as spy and I do a dammed good job at it to getting 10 > 20 kills a life.

  • @GiveMeBass93 you can't be that good if you can't do this simple trick

  • @viking977 Yeah you call it simple but when playing with veteran skill levelled players its far beyond simple....Sapping is not that hard unless you have more than 1 Engie, then you just go Demoman or Soldier, Problem solved. But when facing experienced players the game becomes far harder....

  • @GiveMeBass93 true enough, the difficulty of the spy class is entirely dependent on the other team.

    ...except in the mechanical sense. if u manage to get an engineer into this kind of position with no allies around to help him out, the outcome will always be the same, providing of course that you can pull it off without dying.. now GETTING into this stab 'n' sap position, that's the tricky bit.

  • @viking977 Touche :P But the server I play on everyone is playing a turtle defense :/ So its generally very hard to get a engie because some of them are incredible at the game. Whats your steam name?

  • @GiveMeBass93 viKING. and i hate it when engies do that. if the other team is to careful about spy checking there isn't much u can do but go demo man like you said or heavy and help out your team.

  • @viking977 Say unable to find 0_o But yeah I got demo for taking sentry's out, no other satisfaction can beat destroying a level 3 sentry :D

  • one of the many MGS themes :3

  • make sure you dont forget about wranglers when shooting from far away an engineer will see you and use his sentry to try to take you out

  • You Sir are a genius!

  • MGS4 and splinter cell music... fuckin awesome

  • 03:11 you killed the weighted companion cube! D:

  • great guide but i disagree with two things, first, the stab n sap is piss easy XD, and engineers can combat revolver sniping, they just keep repairing their buildings, as they can out repair your damage.

  • BTW, the wrench crits more than any weapon because the crit chance is based on the kills that are racked up. And since Lvl 3 sentries mow down freaking everything, Engies have a ridiculously high crit chance.

    Also, I don't know since when, but enemy dispensers no longer produce a healing beam when you're nearby, but will still heal you and your cloaking device (except for the Cloak and Dagger). Shooting sapped buildings also doesn't do much damage anymore.

  • This was back when sentries wouldn't notice you until you killed their engineer. Now, as soon as you right click to uncloak, they immediately turn and blast you into chunks.

  • @GamerG0d1337 Well if you have a disguise they don't. But if you have skill, you can do it easily without a disguise, I play Saharan spy and I often get an engi disguise as my first one

  • 4:40 Cool you left the dipenser up so its a wall. Was that intentional?

  • if anyone wants to add me IF they have an xbox 360 my gamertag is Baxten123!

  • what should i use im a pro spy like you lol but idk what watch to use what do you prefer?i like the dead ringer

  • I know all of them except the one that engi sometimes go back to their favorite spot, nice tutorial!

  • 4:47 SUPER UBER SKILLS! that made me ROFL

  • what is the name of the map at around 6:18?

  • your guides are very helpful. :)

  • Amazing i never really thought of doing most of this thanks for some great lessons

  • I suck at Stab n Saps so this is what i do. Stand in front of the sentry and sap it. three thing will happen: 1) he will try to knock off the Sapper when he does resap, and so on and so on. Your sapper damages faster then the engineer can repair it. 2) he will run around the sentry and try to kill you, just play ringaround the sentry while sapping it and it will explode quickly . 3) the mix of the others he'll rapair and run, repair and ren again, just to the same thing for number 2.

  • i got a problems with pryo rather than engineers any ideas on how to kill pryo?i in disguise and somehow always burn me to check if i was a spy...

  • @stupidhing33 pyros are difficult, avoid them at all costs, unless youre behind them

  • Nice video. Some useful ideas in here.

  • tip for engeniers put the dispencer in a dam corner so the spy can't hide behind it

  • the first 2 musics are from Metal Gear?

  • Gunslinger engineer

    This style is all about building little sentries around like mad then grabbing your shotgun to help fighting. Spys are not nearly as much of a threat as they are to the normal engineer, and the spy will backstab someone then get owned by your sentry that he didn't even knew existed.

  • Counter measures vs Spy, Normal Engineer.

    3: If your ideal spot is near a corner and you plan to stay put, then build yourself into the corner. This way spy can't get to you at all while your structures stand.

    4: Since you can move gear freely, make sure to keep your strutcures moved as needed, enemies adapt fast to where you are.

    5: if your sentry is open from all directions, do NOT stand near it. Move around and check for spies and assist team.

  • Let me prsent counter measures for engineers, for any engies watching this.

    Normal Engineer

    1: Use smart sentry spots. If possible, let your structures defend you so there are less directions to be backstabbed from.

    2: Is there a narrow passageway? Put a dispenser here. If a spy tries to sap it you can unsap and switch to your shotgun or pistol, he can't do a thing about it.

  • Well, nowaydays the engineer can fight back efficiently when you're shooting his sentry. He has the wrangler so it's remote controlable :)

    Also why should you take out the dispenser first?

  • @Tuck213

    He means when you shoot them then the dispenser should be destroyed first because its giving the engie more metal to fix his sentry and you're just wasting ammo on his sentry which wont be destroyed. If you shoot the dispenser first the engies supply of metal will be cut off, Meaning you can then shoot the sentry.

    If its just normal backstabs then Dispensers are last.

  • @Tuck213 Because the Engineer can keep getting metal to repair damaged buildings. Also, back then, Spies couldn't regenerate cloak through ammo so basically sapping and running was the best tactic.

  • 4:52 AssStab

  • i didnt know that the sentry can kill it's own engie O_o

  • I GIVE A TIP!!

    Let the Dispenser in peace, cloake and stay there until your cloak is full again, then you can sap it.

  • Revolver or Ambasodor. Cloak and dagger or dead ringer

  • Aha! But us, hardworking spies, got our wranglers, and with these wranglers we have unlimited range with our sentries as well, just as your revolver.

    And let our nasty rockets be a tad stronger than your small BBgun of a revolver, your final tactic has been rendered useless.

    But still, we suffer from your Stab 'n' Sap =( luckely, most players aren't that skilled and either die from the sentry itself if they stab first, or get shot by my shotgun when sapping the building.

  • Engineer and Spy are the trickiest to master, as a whole. The other classes are "run-and-gun" types.

  • 1:23 stab the sentry lolz learn to spell

  • @mikekrg stop using internet faggot slang "lolz" what are you mentally retarded?

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  • @mikekrg yes well we can see you spent well earned time thinking of a lame comeback...

  • @GiveMeBass93 yo man if u don't mind shutting ur godamn mouth up trolling me u fucktard,ur the faggot and the retard

  • @mikekrg This is classic retardation....And your the shining example + all you just said makes not sense at all. ;D Enjoy Boy who can't spell or use gramme at all.

  • @GiveMeBass93 lol u have nothing to say so why don't u shut the fuck up and even better go sucide u useless piece of shit ,asswipe :)

  • i paused at 9:34 like the exact second you put in that fuzzy screen why did you do that theres no hidden messege or anything :(

  • the wrangler ruined the revolver scheme 

  • i didnt know the spy was given a new move. the "butt stab" at 4:45

  • MGS music!!! XD FTW!!!

  • 8:25 if you look at thw sentry that has just been destroyed, you can see an engie jumping up to repair it.

  • Actually, the healing beam of an enemy dispenser is no longer visible to other people. Just so everyone knows, because it can be useful to leech of of them.

  • wuts ur steam id

  • Metal Gear Music ftw.

    YOu sir are proficient at picking an appropriate score to go with spy-like duties.

    And you're also not a bad instructor.

    I reccomend.

  • Great tutorial, just the way Forced Suicide sounds and the great choice of music on that part just made me had chills up my spine. A will-try tactic next time I play.

  • lol, he's talking about the engineers like they are observed as a specie

  • so melodramatic, i am hoping in the next video you dont combat such poor engineers, a good engie will be surprisngly careful, not build dispenser near the sentry, and will not stand around near the sentry

  • On 6:06 dispensers cant kill engineer's but sentries can. Stand behind the dispenser with the engineer in front of the dispenser with the sentry if front, uncloak and stand. Then watch the engineer die. Then sap his buildings.

    Hard to do but very funny and awesome.

  • sweet music, editing, and awesome f***ing tips - TY!

  • Very nice video while stab and sap is somewhat easy once you get your head around it, if you're not using the IW (career DR spy here) it's really tedious getting to the build to begin with. Often you can revolver the engy from behind his dispenser or from a corner if he's foolishly built a sentry waiting for a pyro to clean house.

    Despite that, the rocket pod humiliation thing is still beyond my reach, serious kudos on that.

  • takes so technec to kill us Texans!

  • I think what is most odd about me playing as a spy is that i was immediatly a beast as a spy...after a while i never got anything for the spy i had the default weapons...

  • is this worth buying? and do people still play?

  • @GamersMinion

    Hell yes they do and its worth every penny. Mac users just became part of the TF2 universe as well, so shit will go down with PC v.s. Mac. The amount of stuff to do and create for the game is awesome. Such as Prop hunt, Dodgeball, arena, King of the Hill, and many more. Also thanks to the Macs users a tutorial has been set up for new players. Come join this us.

  • @GamersMinion 4th most played game on Steam

  • lol at 04:54

    Great Ass Stab!

  • You are pro dude. Nice vid.

  • i would prefer the sap n stab

  • Actually, the wrench doesn't crit any more often than other melee weapons. All melee weapons have a base 15% chance to crit, and valve has also stated that the bonesaw has a slightly higher chance to crit (about 17-20%).

  • @craftyard i just wanted to add something here for ya to know : )

    the reason wrench and bonesaw/ubersaw seems to have a LOT higher crit is bcuz that your crit-chance goes up based on dmg done in the last 20 seconds or something. what most ppl dont know is that when youre a medic, your pacients dmg done counts as your dmg done, and as engi, sentry dmg counts as your dmg done for this calculation. the better you fight, the more crits you get : )

  • 5:06 There is no AFK in war, soldier.

  • You could've covered the taunt cloak harrasment.

    It might not be practical for many times but with on many settings engineer utilize, you can take out both the dispenser and engineer at once then proceed to sap the sentry.

  • And this is Metal Gear music...I think....

  • 0:53 is that a game and watch?

  • @INEEDZALL what? the sapper? I'm not sure of which object you're referring to.

  • @dong2512 yeh the sapper thing looks like a gaem and watch

  • @INEEDZALL LOL, i agree, there should be a skin mod to turn the sapper into the Game and Watch.

    "Spy playing games on Mah sentry!"

  • shame the vid needs a LOT of updating: The spy update, and the fact that sapped buildings take reduced damage from the revolver/ambassador

  • 5:56 thats me :D your such a meanie breakin mah sentry

  • nice video :D

  • Need an opinion. Wich is better? Revolver or Ambassador?

  • Now, I swear to God I've seen this video on omfgninja or SubtIeArt's channel.

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  • Nice guide never though we could hide behind teh dispenser

  • LOL the Engineer getting killed by his own sentry is by far the best part of this guide. 10000000/5

  • YOU BEAST

  • I already knew the tactics shown in the original spy video but I've never been a good anti-engie spy so this video helped me.

  • I'm usually a spy and, well, I just love my job :D

  • lets face it... we like bieng spies because we like to screw with people. :)

  • nice idea.

  • LOL MGS4 Sound track xD

  • Obviously you are the greatest spy master mind.

    your videos are by far the greatest "how to play the spy" videos!

    With music that suits the spy :)

  • i have a console and i am a very good spy but that stab and sap is the hardest thing to do. but i still do it and it works out well.

  • Really good, but i don't think i have the reaction times to do the stab and sap

  • @CSanimations I have a razer copperhead mouse- I bound sapper and knife to the front and back thumb button keys, respectively. That makes it easier... but of course, you need a guaranteed backstab, then you have to work out contingency plans for the other engies. In egypt, for example, I'll crouchstab the engie from above him when he's looking at his gun, then I'll sap his stuff and run to the tunnels. If I see another engie coming, I stab him and take his stuff, too.

  • great man this helps alot!

  • your the best

  • ass-stab at 4:53. lolol

  • They say the wrench crits more often because an Engineer gets kills from his Sentry, and getting kills increases your crit rate.

    That kinda makes sense, or maybe Engineers are just lucky.

  • yeah that actually make sense :D equalizer crit also alot if u have low hp bcuz 300-400 dmg each crit :D

  • @cyborgtroy it is not the kills that increase the crit chance, it is the amount of damage you caused in the last 20 secs.

  • Yeah, I remembered it wrong, it is damage. Soldiers and Demomen have a huge advantage there because they can get a lot of splash damage without having to focus it, and then get a high crit chance.

  • This was when spy was the most fun. Then they introduced the gay ass unlocks. I honestly don't enjoy spy as much as i did in 2008 when i started playing.

  • its a great video.i wish i was THAT good at tf2 for the pc.i guess ill use these tips on the xbox then...

  • what's your xbl gamertag cuz mine is soontf2master. I just want to play with other people .

  • @XHellxFireX911

    Don't play TF2 on the Xbox. Just... no. Goddamn.

  • lol i used to play on the xbox like a year ago, moved to pc, sooo much better

  • I know right?! People seem to think that consoles are the only things for gaming, and it makes me frowny-face.

  • @tamamaster33 plus free updates cause steams awsome and microsofts consists of greedy basards

  • @hardraver909 they also make you go easter hunting to find exc. to add onto your XSUX, Sony let's you have everything in a small package, Microsoft just says " HEY! buy this stuff to make your Xbox 360 somewhat better, even if it's impossible! >=P"

  • @cmbdragon666 lol

  • @hardraver909 amen.

  • @tamamaster33 me too xD

  • @demonikreaper Games like TF2 are better on Pc. But games like MW2, Halo, GoW, RB6V etc. are better on consoles. Simple fact.

  • @FearTheRage117

    Often times that's simply because the developers pour millions into developing it for consoles and then spend a couple thousand making a shitty PC port.

  • @demonikreaper Exactly. Valve is probably better then Epic Games, Bungie, and Iw combined in terms of making PC games. I prefer games like mw2 so I play consoles but when I want like 30 people spewing flames, grenades and minigun rounds I play PC tf2.

  • 2:52 Fatal ass stab lmao

  • You are a good fucking spy. Do you play PC or what?

  • is it me or can any melee wep get a lot of crits on spys

  • 6:40

    Fail sentry

  • Failed Jump 8:33 ;P

  • Its Much Harder To Kill Engineers These Days Because they shot anyone, so it realy dosnt matter what disquise you have

  • Very perceptive, but not completely true.

    It's true, they do spycheck, but if you were looking at his original video, all you need to do act natural.

    I make this mistake a lot playing an engineer.

  • LOL forced suicide. it sounds unfair on the engie, but think of how humiliating it is for the spy to get hit by jarate or get cooked alive by a pyro.

  • @cgayraz2:

    this tactic is GREAT! :D

    can't wait to let a redneck get shot into pieces by there sentry guns^^

    Sad, that pyros can't be killed like that..

    too bad^^

  • Its funny how one can play the engineer and be a good anti-spy and then when they play a spy are a good anti-engineer. ^^ something about both classes are just so much fun.

  • Engineer and the Scout has a very good Pistol. Works great from a distance and can kill a spy from a distance also.

  • man i wish i watched this when i played on the 360 b4 it broke lol.

  • What watch do you use?

  • its before the update so its a regular invis watch most likely

  • You're a fucking legend thankyou :D

  • lol doing the suicide thing with a scout is fun too. Drink, run up to him hitting his sentry stand there and wait for him to get shot to death xD

  • spy tactics FTW!!!!! xD

    thanks for this im a skilled spy and i found this very helpfull to new spys so yeah thanks again

  • that was good tactic at 4:38 to not sap the dispenser so it blocks teh enineer