so sad america's health system will continue to get worse and many more will die becuase insurance companies are souless profit machines, not only that but the worlds only democratic superpower is going to go bankrupt without real reform. I guess the bad guys do really win in reality.
I'm sorry Mr. President. But you forcing a Unconstitutional bill through the Senate makes us all miss trust you. And the senate is completely disfunctional because of what you and the dems. did to get this bill rushed through. There is no basses for the argument that this has to be done fast, because it don't even go into effect for another 4 years. Let us know whats in it before you pass it. If you don't. It has to be something that noone wants.
In Europe the people don't have to worry about health care. It's provided. People are afraid of change.
Here's something to think about. Tax payers money are used in: public schools, law enforcements, fire depts, useless wars, big companies bailouts, etc. Why not use this for the people, health care for everyone. People will have a choice whether public or private health care. For example we have a choice whether to use public or private schools. Time for a change, for the good of the people.
It's one thing if they ACTUALLY limited the bill to just saying that once a citizen is insured, they can't just be dropped. The problem here is that he's trying to make companies pay for all sorts of stuff. It's one thing if you get denied, same reason a person with 10 car accidents doesn't get car insurance. Besides, people are often obese and that would take a TON of money from insurance just because people were stupid and ate fast food while not exercising. BTW, compare us to Germany economic
Farms animals are all diseased, GMO foods are as safe as a loaded shot gun in the hands of a five year old, the water is polluted, the drug companies are unsafe, if you can read this, than sell everything and run for your life to South America where millions of Americans have fled already, you have little time and not a chance to survive in the U.S.Your food is poison, your water is poison, the air is poison and nothing will ever get better..., immigrate to where it is safe, unless your homeless
Nice head-fake, "health insurance" reform -- it's health CARE reform, now it's health insurance reform. What the United States needs and deserves is the single payer system with everyone in and no one left out. Come on, Mr. President, spare us the head-fakes and backroom deals.
US put too much money on military. Health care should have been single payer to cut all costs. But i mean he's getting there. Although this democratic process is inefficien, completely flawed and shouldn't have been this way from the beginning. He's trying hard to help the underdog.
Not necessarily personal liberty, but the liberty of those who are currently monopolizing the medical industry.
Obama took the correct step in the end by accounting for the liberty issue. He merely introduced a government involvement and not a takeover. Compromise for full liberty is expensive.
Government is not as altruistic as you might want to believe. You are giving a power monopoly to the government, it will choose the winners and vanquish the competition.
You loose control won't have a choice. There are other sollutions,
The ones that make money for interests are the government.
I stand in opposition to experimentation on my liberty.
Altruistic or not, you're making cynical assumption here to back your perspective.
You gotta dig deeper into the argument. But even debates are useless. In the end the movement of this whole issue doesn't grow in accordance with what's the best option out there. In the end it's about who has the power to make that decision and what their beliefs / interests are.
Well I'm glad you bring that up, deficit spending. The crux of the issue. Money.
The huge deficits run in the 1960's,by way of the War On Poverty and the Vietnam war, lead to the abolition of the Brenton Woods Agreement. After the WWII a victorious U.S. had gone through most of it's money, (here comes the goldbug in me) REAL CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY GOLD.
I'll do you one better, your NOT Un-American, your just ignorant. This is not a crime.
Monetary System, something Obama never even touches. For good reason, it beniits those on the Right and those on the Left. How so? I'll tell you, through a fiat monetary system they are able to lower interest rates. Good? Not really this causes inflation, see? In the last 4 months you've lost 10 cents for every dollar that you earn. That money was stolen from you by the process of inflation. Now who benefits?
I'll tell you who benefits, the banking Oligarchy (big word). Through fractional reserve banking they are able to maximize the value of the Fiat money, they creat money out of thin air, like magic. Government is able to grow and tax more and devalue your money.
10 cents out of every dollar you earn has been stolen, literally stolen.
Obama will not address this, neither will any Republican leader. Do you think the poor and middle class are hurt by their money being stolen?
Obama is clearly lying. He tells people that they will be able to keep their private insurance but everyone knows that the private insurance companies will not be able to compete with gov't funded programs. And on top of that it is obvious that companies will seek to unload their benefits programs when given the chance. Before becoming president Obama clearly stated that he was in favor of a single payer gov't health program. He knows he can only achieve this incrementally and with deception.
You raise an interesting delima, what would happen if the government got out of delivering mail altogether.
Dr. Spock made a logical comparison of the Cookie Monster and Government run institutions.
When Cookie Monster eats cookies they end up on the floor wasted. Likewise when government runs institutions the money gets wasted and not used efficiently.
If america either payed more tax (it's low) or stopped getting in to stupid wars then you would afford public health insurance
HUGETHEROCKER 1 year ago
Hey chump,
10 milion expected to die sooner if half trillion in cuts to medicare happen...this is the bill you want....wake up & smell the dead bodies.....
hadenufnow 2 years ago
so sad america's health system will continue to get worse and many more will die becuase insurance companies are souless profit machines, not only that but the worlds only democratic superpower is going to go bankrupt without real reform. I guess the bad guys do really win in reality.
Gantzer1 2 years ago
I'm sorry Mr. President. But you forcing a Unconstitutional bill through the Senate makes us all miss trust you. And the senate is completely disfunctional because of what you and the dems. did to get this bill rushed through. There is no basses for the argument that this has to be done fast, because it don't even go into effect for another 4 years. Let us know whats in it before you pass it. If you don't. It has to be something that noone wants.
altonrocker 2 years ago
We are in USA & we have fools & jackasses to deal with.....
Buy this pile of crap ins or"GO TO JAIL".....
I mean--we'll just jump ship in interim & repeal it so you won't get a penny ..
Real good idea for a community organizer....Nice one...Not...
hadenufnow 2 years ago
It's too bad when you know he's telling you a bold f aced lie. What, me worry?
coitalyeti 2 years ago
In Europe the people don't have to worry about health care. It's provided. People are afraid of change.
Here's something to think about. Tax payers money are used in: public schools, law enforcements, fire depts, useless wars, big companies bailouts, etc. Why not use this for the people, health care for everyone. People will have a choice whether public or private health care. For example we have a choice whether to use public or private schools. Time for a change, for the good of the people.
honestabe111 2 years ago 8
It's one thing if they ACTUALLY limited the bill to just saying that once a citizen is insured, they can't just be dropped. The problem here is that he's trying to make companies pay for all sorts of stuff. It's one thing if you get denied, same reason a person with 10 car accidents doesn't get car insurance. Besides, people are often obese and that would take a TON of money from insurance just because people were stupid and ate fast food while not exercising. BTW, compare us to Germany economic
TangoCharlie3 2 years ago
Farms animals are all diseased, GMO foods are as safe as a loaded shot gun in the hands of a five year old, the water is polluted, the drug companies are unsafe, if you can read this, than sell everything and run for your life to South America where millions of Americans have fled already, you have little time and not a chance to survive in the U.S.Your food is poison, your water is poison, the air is poison and nothing will ever get better..., immigrate to where it is safe, unless your homeless
Jai666666666 2 years ago
Nice head-fake, "health insurance" reform -- it's health CARE reform, now it's health insurance reform. What the United States needs and deserves is the single payer system with everyone in and no one left out. Come on, Mr. President, spare us the head-fakes and backroom deals.
Aiden057 2 years ago
US put too much money on military. Health care should have been single payer to cut all costs. But i mean he's getting there. Although this democratic process is inefficien, completely flawed and shouldn't have been this way from the beginning. He's trying hard to help the underdog.
spiritsA 2 years ago
Single Payer is an invasion on personal liberty and a experiment on individual rights.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Not necessarily personal liberty, but the liberty of those who are currently monopolizing the medical industry.
Obama took the correct step in the end by accounting for the liberty issue. He merely introduced a government involvement and not a takeover. Compromise for full liberty is expensive.
spiritsA 2 years ago
Government is not as altruistic as you might want to believe. You are giving a power monopoly to the government, it will choose the winners and vanquish the competition.
You loose control won't have a choice. There are other sollutions,
The ones that make money for interests are the government.
I stand in opposition to experimentation on my liberty.
I uphold the Constitution.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Altruistic or not, you're making cynical assumption here to back your perspective.
You gotta dig deeper into the argument. But even debates are useless. In the end the movement of this whole issue doesn't grow in accordance with what's the best option out there. In the end it's about who has the power to make that decision and what their beliefs / interests are.
spiritsA 2 years ago
Obama is the Cookie Monster.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Also, I find it funny how you whine about deficits yet never said one thing about them when Bush was in office.
Sorry, but right-wing extremist revisionism doesn't cut it with me. Please stop twisting the truth.
ihatelifejosemartine 2 years ago
Well I'm glad you bring that up, deficit spending. The crux of the issue. Money.
The huge deficits run in the 1960's,by way of the War On Poverty and the Vietnam war, lead to the abolition of the Brenton Woods Agreement. After the WWII a victorious U.S. had gone through most of it's money, (here comes the goldbug in me) REAL CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY GOLD.
None of what I am telling you is partisan.
And no I'm not a Republicrat or a Demopublican.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Lemme guess... Libertarian?
ihatelifejosemartine 2 years ago
Labels, a political atheist more like it.
All failures, save a few on either side.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Reality, only way to afford this is to print trillions of Obamaonopoly funny money.
Take a hike Bama.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Wow, talk about un-aamerican.
We all know you hate Obama because he's a domecrat and he's Black, please stop infecting youtube vids with your indless hate.
ihatelifejosemartine 2 years ago
I'll do you one better, your NOT Un-American, your just ignorant. This is not a crime.
Monetary System, something Obama never even touches. For good reason, it beniits those on the Right and those on the Left. How so? I'll tell you, through a fiat monetary system they are able to lower interest rates. Good? Not really this causes inflation, see? In the last 4 months you've lost 10 cents for every dollar that you earn. That money was stolen from you by the process of inflation. Now who benefits?
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Wow, I bet you know what Ron Paul ate for breakfast this morning.
Seriously, get off his jock. You sound like a parrot, no mind of your own.
ihatelifejosemartine 2 years ago
I'll tell you who benefits, the banking Oligarchy (big word). Through fractional reserve banking they are able to maximize the value of the Fiat money, they creat money out of thin air, like magic. Government is able to grow and tax more and devalue your money.
10 cents out of every dollar you earn has been stolen, literally stolen.
Obama will not address this, neither will any Republican leader. Do you think the poor and middle class are hurt by their money being stolen?
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
SESAME STREET.
You can not misconstrue what I've just told you is Republican partisan rant, or is racist I don't know what to tell you.
If this is hard to understand I'll tell you in a way you might understand.
COOKIE MONSTER: is like government with your money. He might stick the cookie in his mouth but it all ends up on the floor, he is wasteful.
Cheers!
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Wow, spoken like a true mouthpiece of the RNC.
You should be ashamed.
ihatelifejosemartine 2 years ago
Obama is clearly lying. He tells people that they will be able to keep their private insurance but everyone knows that the private insurance companies will not be able to compete with gov't funded programs. And on top of that it is obvious that companies will seek to unload their benefits programs when given the chance. Before becoming president Obama clearly stated that he was in favor of a single payer gov't health program. He knows he can only achieve this incrementally and with deception.
yahazif 2 years ago
Yes. No one can compete with the government. That's why the postal service has driven Fed Ex and UPS out of business. NOT!
UpTakeVideo 2 years ago
So you admit that the USPS is a complete and utter failure?
You are stating that the government will run health care like the Postal Service?
Ouch, shot yourself in the foot.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
You really aren't that good at debating or logic are you?
UpTakeVideo 2 years ago
You raise an interesting delima, what would happen if the government got out of delivering mail altogether.
Dr. Spock made a logical comparison of the Cookie Monster and Government run institutions.
When Cookie Monster eats cookies they end up on the floor wasted. Likewise when government runs institutions the money gets wasted and not used efficiently.
Live long and prosper.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
If the government stopped delivering the mail I would no longer have any mail , the only thing i get is junk mail , all my bill's are paper free!
fletcho11 2 years ago
Gee, that's the same lame argument daddy Obama used. I wonder who you get your marching orders from. lol
yahazif 2 years ago
he is lying
if the health plan cant be explained in three pages something is wrong with it
government paid universal health care sucks
it would make the debt owed go up!
tonythesom 2 years ago
I don't know of anything this complex that can be covered in 3 pages.
ThisIsJohnShannon 2 years ago
lolololololol
he looks a bit like he is begging now......
starting to become a big joke this soon in his term....... this is not good
KCUAC 2 years ago