Ranjit Singh is big-fat liar. He says Punjab was bread-basket of India and still is and then he says Punjab has become desert because Punjab's water has taken and given to other states.
What an utter waste, this whole discussion is! Bunch of jokers sitting in England, speaking in English accent, discussion something which is none of their business.
Pappa Ji, who drove you out of India? Please tell. You are lying, right? You wanted a greener pasture, isn't it? That's why you came to England. I am done folks. I am walking out of this nonsensical discussion.
Wait a min !!!! when this video was shot is not a sikh the prime minister of india ... so can someone please ask them to stop whining ... what happened in 84 was totally wrong .. but stop dividing the country now
See mates, I'm a proud punjabi sikh and above all I AM A Proud INDIAN!!
Stop trying to divide my country on the basis of religion. I am very angry with what indian govt, did in 1984 but I'm also against khalistan. I don't what my BELOVED INDIA to be divided. Please mates stop insulting Sikhism. It's enough!!
i believe that sikh and hindu untiy exists i know hindu punjabis who visit a mandir twice a week and a gurdwara twice a week... i have a sikh friend from dehli and has come to live in the uk, he always wears his india criecket shirt and has a india flag in his car, he is the most proud indian i have seen, when we asked him about khalistan, he said its not as big of a issue in india as it is in the uk, he has never felt discriminated against as a sikh,, i also think india is proud of sikhs
"Economically forced out of punjab". An old man should not be lying. Then he says "we are fighers." Sir, fight on from 1000's of miles away. WGJKFWGJKF
its good to see hindus coming up in these forums and at least speaking up the truth..
else all we see is muslim and sikh propoganda..they r so similar religions in dont know why our constitution classifey sikhs as hindus.. with buddhists and jains it can be understood...
its just political parties messing with each other and hindus taking blame for everything lol... 40000 hindus were already killed before 1984 happened. as afar as betraying punjabi is concerned this langauge existd before sikh
India is proud of Sikhs, just as it is proud of its gujratis, marwaris etc. we are all one. Bhindranwale started a dirty war, and the Indian govt finished it in an even more botched way. Official estimates- 40, 000 dead from 1978-1992- these included 20,000 sikhs and 20,000 hindus. In the end Sikhs turned against the terrorists in their midst who were turning to murder and extortion.
The most ridiculous statements I have heard is that those Sikh terrorists were actually govt agents.I lived in Delhi till 1993 and some of my closest friends were Sikhs so I can claim a fairly close hand knowledge of events on the ground. I was also a doctor who treated numerous Sikh victims during the riots, as well as some Sikh terrorists later, who were some of the most dangerous and brainwashed individuals I ever had the misfortune to meet.
the bbc film starts its narrative from 1984 which gives the Sikhs a sense of victimhood because of the murderous anti- Sikh riots that we all condemn.
But most Sikhs living abroad are not told of the terrifying phase from 1978-1984, when murdering gangs of Sikh separatists were on the rampage in Punjab, often targetting hindus, in some instances ordering them off buses and gunning them down. Many were under the patronage of Bhindranwale.
When they talk about Punajb and its water and its misuse they have to understand that this water comes from Himachal and its himachl right. when we never objected to give it to other state why the hell thse people are caring siting in canada
if himachel was to build a dam it would overflow. the gates would have to be opened often. you can type some stuff like himachal pradesh dams into google and get some info. water in these two rivers is created by ice melting off the biggest mountains int he world. there should be no water shortage in himachal pradesh punjab or haryana and parts of nothern rajastan. most of the farmers of punjab water there fields with motors hooked up to underground wells so river water should be abundant.
Dude from where water comes to well. its same water which come from rivers. And i am responding to the comment they always make that Punjab is rich because of agriculture, i agree but without that rivers water which come from himachal, it was not possible and water can be stopped easily by indian govt. dude let me remind you punjab is rich because of rivers of himachal and one more thing Remember Prachu lake of China which .
then the kashmiris can say that himachal is rich due to river water of kashmir. and on and on. and well supplies are usally replensed by rain water soaking thru the earth. the point ive been trying to make is that these states need to come to some kind of agreement and stick to it. some have been made in the past an havent been held up. so if govt wants control why are they not enfrocing there own agreements.
dude you look week in geography.have look no river come to himachal from Kashmir. Kashmir rivers go to pakistan directly. all the rivres starts from Himalyas to himachal.. i agree with your point but i donot think in north india there is any problem with river water. Its in south especially with Karnatka and Tamilnadu.
the fact is that the govt is robbing everybody. alot of other parts of india are unhappy. look at what happened in andhra pradesh. there govenor or whatever had a hunger strike for 11 days and andhra pradesh will be divided into another state. good for them at least they fought for there right. india had to take notice. remember not another country but another state within india. they are also seeking limited gov't control. many others doing the same why. the govt has to be doin somethin wrong
CHINA IS USING AS WATER BOMB AGAINEST India and its himachal which will suffer because of that. and donot take Himachal credit in development of punjab
Ranjit Singh is big-fat liar. He says Punjab was bread-basket of India and still is and then he says Punjab has become desert because Punjab's water has taken and given to other states.
mono7891 4 months ago
What an utter waste, this whole discussion is! Bunch of jokers sitting in England, speaking in English accent, discussion something which is none of their business.
Pappa Ji, who drove you out of India? Please tell. You are lying, right? You wanted a greener pasture, isn't it? That's why you came to England. I am done folks. I am walking out of this nonsensical discussion.
mono7891 6 months ago
Wait a min !!!! when this video was shot is not a sikh the prime minister of india ... so can someone please ask them to stop whining ... what happened in 84 was totally wrong .. but stop dividing the country now
sontya2000 10 months ago
@sontya2000 lol..puppet PM... he is not Sikh...he is a joke
Reshug 1 month ago
See mates, I'm a proud punjabi sikh and above all I AM A Proud INDIAN!!
Stop trying to divide my country on the basis of religion. I am very angry with what indian govt, did in 1984 but I'm also against khalistan. I don't what my BELOVED INDIA to be divided. Please mates stop insulting Sikhism. It's enough!!
BhindranwaleFromHell 1 year ago
i believe that sikh and hindu untiy exists i know hindu punjabis who visit a mandir twice a week and a gurdwara twice a week... i have a sikh friend from dehli and has come to live in the uk, he always wears his india criecket shirt and has a india flag in his car, he is the most proud indian i have seen, when we asked him about khalistan, he said its not as big of a issue in india as it is in the uk, he has never felt discriminated against as a sikh,, i also think india is proud of sikhs
mayur500 1 year ago
"Economically forced out of punjab". An old man should not be lying. Then he says "we are fighers." Sir, fight on from 1000's of miles away. WGJKFWGJKF
EkMaharajah 2 years ago
its good to see hindus coming up in these forums and at least speaking up the truth..
else all we see is muslim and sikh propoganda..they r so similar religions in dont know why our constitution classifey sikhs as hindus.. with buddhists and jains it can be understood...
its just political parties messing with each other and hindus taking blame for everything lol... 40000 hindus were already killed before 1984 happened. as afar as betraying punjabi is concerned this langauge existd before sikh
piratesofjalandhar 2 years ago
India is proud of Sikhs, just as it is proud of its gujratis, marwaris etc. we are all one. Bhindranwale started a dirty war, and the Indian govt finished it in an even more botched way. Official estimates- 40, 000 dead from 1978-1992- these included 20,000 sikhs and 20,000 hindus. In the end Sikhs turned against the terrorists in their midst who were turning to murder and extortion.
Punjab bled, India bled, it is time to move on
dmisra75 2 years ago
The most ridiculous statements I have heard is that those Sikh terrorists were actually govt agents.I lived in Delhi till 1993 and some of my closest friends were Sikhs so I can claim a fairly close hand knowledge of events on the ground. I was also a doctor who treated numerous Sikh victims during the riots, as well as some Sikh terrorists later, who were some of the most dangerous and brainwashed individuals I ever had the misfortune to meet.
dmisra75 2 years ago
the bbc film starts its narrative from 1984 which gives the Sikhs a sense of victimhood because of the murderous anti- Sikh riots that we all condemn.
But most Sikhs living abroad are not told of the terrifying phase from 1978-1984, when murdering gangs of Sikh separatists were on the rampage in Punjab, often targetting hindus, in some instances ordering them off buses and gunning them down. Many were under the patronage of Bhindranwale.
dmisra75 2 years ago
When they talk about Punajb and its water and its misuse they have to understand that this water comes from Himachal and its himachl right. when we never objected to give it to other state why the hell thse people are caring siting in canada
kaku8 2 years ago
if himachel was to build a dam it would overflow. the gates would have to be opened often. you can type some stuff like himachal pradesh dams into google and get some info. water in these two rivers is created by ice melting off the biggest mountains int he world. there should be no water shortage in himachal pradesh punjab or haryana and parts of nothern rajastan. most of the farmers of punjab water there fields with motors hooked up to underground wells so river water should be abundant.
grapevinezzz 2 years ago
Dude from where water comes to well. its same water which come from rivers. And i am responding to the comment they always make that Punjab is rich because of agriculture, i agree but without that rivers water which come from himachal, it was not possible and water can be stopped easily by indian govt. dude let me remind you punjab is rich because of rivers of himachal and one more thing Remember Prachu lake of China which .
kaku8 2 years ago
then the kashmiris can say that himachal is rich due to river water of kashmir. and on and on. and well supplies are usally replensed by rain water soaking thru the earth. the point ive been trying to make is that these states need to come to some kind of agreement and stick to it. some have been made in the past an havent been held up. so if govt wants control why are they not enfrocing there own agreements.
grapevinezzz 2 years ago
dude you look week in geography.have look no river come to himachal from Kashmir. Kashmir rivers go to pakistan directly. all the rivres starts from Himalyas to himachal.. i agree with your point but i donot think in north india there is any problem with river water. Its in south especially with Karnatka and Tamilnadu.
kaku8 2 years ago
the fact is that the govt is robbing everybody. alot of other parts of india are unhappy. look at what happened in andhra pradesh. there govenor or whatever had a hunger strike for 11 days and andhra pradesh will be divided into another state. good for them at least they fought for there right. india had to take notice. remember not another country but another state within india. they are also seeking limited gov't control. many others doing the same why. the govt has to be doin somethin wrong
grapevinezzz 2 years ago
CHINA IS USING AS WATER BOMB AGAINEST India and its himachal which will suffer because of that. and donot take Himachal credit in development of punjab
kaku8 2 years ago
Grow up economically :
Badal's subsidy
SGPC budget
Baba culture
hoshiarpurPuttar 2 years ago
What led to 1984.
Answer is Pakistans funding to Bhinderwale group and Congress fuckup with whole situation.
Akali used Bhinderwale, that's why Badal, Tohra, Longowal all escaped.
hoshiarpurPuttar 2 years ago