i got 4000X6000 grit wet stone and simple rough smooth (black orange). Cost me 100 for the lot. And I think anything more then that wont give you any better results.
I sharpen by hand and my knives as good as anyones knives I have worked with. Been working full time on knives for almost 10 years.
Dave sells water stones direct to consumers and typically people use at least one stone. For Japanese knives it's typically 1000 & 4000 grit. You can get more stones at finer grits or go to rougher stones to match the needs of the blade. US and German knives are normally sharpened with a two grit system, a 250 or 500 and then a 1000 grit stone.
How many different grits stones do you need? Like a 500 and a 1000 or what do you recommend? Also where do you get your stones? I'm only able to find cheap ones at hardware stores and they are small. I'm having trouble putting good edges on my knives after a bit of neglect and my normal course of action using a Diamond Steel and then progressing to a regular steel isn't working right now. I'm sick of dull knives!!!!
Nice explanation with that Japanese high carbon Nakiri knife but can we use Diamond Plate sharpener on High Carbon Stainless Steel knives like Global or Henckels, Wustohf.
What stone should I use first on my Wusthof knife.
Electric stones (not electric sharpeners like Chefs Choice) do work nice but are costly and have a steep learning curve. You'd be better off purchasing stones, less cost and less chance of inadvertent damage to your knives.
Hey... whats your opinion on those electric sharpening stones? Some of those are pretty costly so im thinking they do a good job... OR.. does nothing compare to a sharpening stone?
Thing is m'man, if a speckly axe has an edge as good as a shiny axe, it still cuts as well, as you point out. So as long as the speckles don';t interfere with the edge, why waste time, when you could be using the tool?
In some cases, having a mirror finish on the edge makes food less likely to stick. Most sharpeners don't care to give you back a knife with sides that are scratched and ugly, but since Dave is a premium sharpener, he makes sure the knives look as good as they handle.
I think most people I know are using the DMT XX coarse plate for flattening. I personally have access to the DLRP and it works great but gets loaded up with sludge fairly easily.
I sold my king 1000 deluxe and am thinking about selling the bester 1200 and replacing both with a shapton 1000...those shaptons are so sweet and no soak time...they seem very smooth and hard and seem to take less time compared to the kings.
I think that your stone choice depends on the knives that your sharpening. Some metals work better on certain stones, experimentation is the best way to figure that out. For more info you should check out the kitchen knives section of knifeforums dot com. (I'm limited on space here for too much of an explanation)
@jedirifleman Goddam right those Shaptons are sweet! Selling those besters is the best thing you've ever done (that I am aware of) :o) Why would you sharpen a knife on a phuckin paper weight? makes no sense...
I think you're good when it comes to stones, I suggest you get/make a leather strop and use it loaded with chromium oxide paste. It will give you an edge thats between 15k and 30k.
Wow, that's a lot of questions. To get the most info you'd be best to check out knifeforums dot com and go to the kitchen knives section. A lot of questions have been answered in a lot more detail that space allows here.
Actually we're mostly a bunch of kitchen knife geeks. Some of use are chefs, most are not. All of us are just fascinated with high end kitchen cutlery and the joy that comes from sharpening and maintaining our knives. If you're interested in learning more you can go to knifeforums dot com, go to the forums section and into the kitchen discussion board.
Some people do use jigs and jigs do work. However a lot of people really just prefer sharpening by hand. You have more control over angles and pressure. Also some knives don't really lend themselves to the jigs.
He sure knows what his talking about I sharpening a lot of woodworking tools but I'm learn about knives and this video has been great. Keep the videos coming
Bester stones are great for Alloys it doesn't clog as much as shapton. I have a few bester another brand which is good is Sigma Power Series even harder then bester.
i got 4000X6000 grit wet stone and simple rough smooth (black orange). Cost me 100 for the lot. And I think anything more then that wont give you any better results.
I sharpen by hand and my knives as good as anyones knives I have worked with. Been working full time on knives for almost 10 years.
wikkem211 11 months ago
These are great videos. Thanks for sharing!
monty3777 1 year ago
He did not tell you that the DMT stone that he uses for lapping costs a fortune and is a total waste of money for lapping...
SuperMangn 1 year ago
This guy is the best yet! I am ld in sharpening and he helps!
killkill120 1 year ago
where can i get one please , delivered uk?
martchef 1 year ago
what dmt is that? the one he uses for flattening.
dylanesc 2 years ago
Dave sells water stones direct to consumers and typically people use at least one stone. For Japanese knives it's typically 1000 & 4000 grit. You can get more stones at finer grits or go to rougher stones to match the needs of the blade. US and German knives are normally sharpened with a two grit system, a 250 or 500 and then a 1000 grit stone.
golf603 2 years ago
How many different grits stones do you need? Like a 500 and a 1000 or what do you recommend? Also where do you get your stones? I'm only able to find cheap ones at hardware stores and they are small. I'm having trouble putting good edges on my knives after a bit of neglect and my normal course of action using a Diamond Steel and then progressing to a regular steel isn't working right now. I'm sick of dull knives!!!!
rooftopeagle 2 years ago
Is he using water or Mineral oil or something to lube the stones?
rooftopeagle 2 years ago
Water ONLY. These are synthetic Japanese water stones. Water should be the only thing used on these stones.
MisterBaz1 2 years ago
Where do you get those stone holders? The biggest problem I have with stones is that they are hard to keep in place!
rooftopeagle 2 years ago
I got mine from an online toolstore.....
....it's a really good thing to have!!!
neviatha 1 year ago
I would really like to know exactly what stone it is at epicurean edge.
WALLY065 2 years ago
It's a Bester 700. Costs more now. Dave doesn't use that stone any more though, preferring the Bester 500.
hkrobin 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for letting US know Great Video...
Nice explanation with that Japanese high carbon Nakiri knife but can we use Diamond Plate sharpener on High Carbon Stainless Steel knives like Global or Henckels, Wustohf.
What stone should I use first on my Wusthof knife.
IamSteelManS 3 years ago
I would really like to know exactly what stone it is at epicurean edge. Is it the #700 Grit Ceramic Waterstone, made my Bester?
thanks for your time
stef.
herbeapuce0 3 years ago
Electric stones (not electric sharpeners like Chefs Choice) do work nice but are costly and have a steep learning curve. You'd be better off purchasing stones, less cost and less chance of inadvertent damage to your knives.
golf603 3 years ago
Hey... whats your opinion on those electric sharpening stones? Some of those are pretty costly so im thinking they do a good job... OR.. does nothing compare to a sharpening stone?
DC180 3 years ago
Great video
Barringtonchung 3 years ago
Thing is m'man, if a speckly axe has an edge as good as a shiny axe, it still cuts as well, as you point out. So as long as the speckles don';t interfere with the edge, why waste time, when you could be using the tool?
Nice video though Thanks..
Fid
Fidlist 3 years ago
In some cases, having a mirror finish on the edge makes food less likely to stick. Most sharpeners don't care to give you back a knife with sides that are scratched and ugly, but since Dave is a premium sharpener, he makes sure the knives look as good as they handle.
SirShazar 3 years ago
funny that a guy who sharpens knives also has a shaved head... ;)
Great work. Only video I've found that seems reliable.
sklikizos 4 years ago
How you think he tests the blades? Hence no hair.. Like I use my forearm hair. Just as well I know my anatomy eh? Lol!
Fidlist 3 years ago
I think most people I know are using the DMT XX coarse plate for flattening. I personally have access to the DLRP and it works great but gets loaded up with sludge fairly easily.
golf603 4 years ago
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jedirifleman 4 years ago
I sold my king 1000 deluxe and am thinking about selling the bester 1200 and replacing both with a shapton 1000...those shaptons are so sweet and no soak time...they seem very smooth and hard and seem to take less time compared to the kings.
jedirifleman 4 years ago
I think that your stone choice depends on the knives that your sharpening. Some metals work better on certain stones, experimentation is the best way to figure that out. For more info you should check out the kitchen knives section of knifeforums dot com. (I'm limited on space here for too much of an explanation)
golf603 4 years ago
@jedirifleman Goddam right those Shaptons are sweet! Selling those besters is the best thing you've ever done (that I am aware of) :o) Why would you sharpen a knife on a phuckin paper weight? makes no sense...
MrKnifeFanatic 1 month ago
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jedirifleman 4 years ago
I think you're good when it comes to stones, I suggest you get/make a leather strop and use it loaded with chromium oxide paste. It will give you an edge thats between 15k and 30k.
SirShazar 3 years ago
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jedirifleman 4 years ago
I believe that he's using the 700 Bester.
golf603 4 years ago
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jedirifleman 4 years ago
where can i buy stones at???? besides the enternet
sagethemanslayer 4 years ago
Depends on where you live. Cutlery shops, woodworking stores are the best bet. However you'll get the best prices and selection online.
golf603 4 years ago
They're great but I prefer the Shapton Pro Stones personally. But, the glass stones are less expensive.
golf603 4 years ago
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jedirifleman 4 years ago
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jedirifleman 4 years ago
Wow, that's a lot of questions. To get the most info you'd be best to check out knifeforums dot com and go to the kitchen knives section. A lot of questions have been answered in a lot more detail that space allows here.
golf603 4 years ago
Actually we're mostly a bunch of kitchen knife geeks. Some of use are chefs, most are not. All of us are just fascinated with high end kitchen cutlery and the joy that comes from sharpening and maintaining our knives. If you're interested in learning more you can go to knifeforums dot com, go to the forums section and into the kitchen discussion board.
golf603 4 years ago
why don't you guys use jigs
edudrepus 4 years ago
Some people do use jigs and jigs do work. However a lot of people really just prefer sharpening by hand. You have more control over angles and pressure. Also some knives don't really lend themselves to the jigs.
golf603 4 years ago
Yeah thats true. You guys are chefs righ? These are sushi knives?
edudrepus 4 years ago
thanks, Dave's a great sharpener and does a wonderful job describing what he's doing and why.
golf603 4 years ago
He sure knows what his talking about I sharpening a lot of woodworking tools but I'm learn about knives and this video has been great. Keep the videos coming
Bokkenlover 4 years ago
Cool video by the way
Bokkenlover 4 years ago
Bester stones are great for Alloys it doesn't clog as much as shapton. I have a few bester another brand which is good is Sigma Power Series even harder then bester.
Bokkenlover 4 years ago
I think it's a 700 grit Bester.
golf603 4 years ago
What stone is Dave working with? He clearly likes it but doesn't specifically say which one.
sgemmett 4 years ago