2/6 Greatest Tank Battles - Desert Storm.

[up648]

@Waltham now a days some M1 are equiped with projectile defense system that blow up the rpg or whatever may be the case b4 it even hits the tank and even then ull have to penetrate it armor but yeah air support is ftw

[koetke511]

if you little jew slaves want a battke, come to Europe!

[juanecheyt]

GREATEST TANK BATTLES???.... KURSK!... EL ALAMEIN!!.... at least Germans had real tanks that presented a real treath... Desert Storm was absolutely unbalanced, like a 14 years old bully against a 5 year old. Desert storm was the perfect excuse to test all those weapons USA had produced and wasn´t using.

[willychong8921]

@juanecheyt Well at least they tested, and said: "Well, we fuck up Russian made shit real good, isn't it?"

While Russian Vs Georgia, also a great way for Russians to test their weapon, they said:"Well, we fuck up Ru....wait...that's our former equipment we sold to them, oh well, SECOND HAND MONKEY MODE made shit real good, sin't it?"

[juanecheyt]

@willychong8921 Yeah ... they fuck up russian made obsolete (40 and 50 years ago) stuff with brand new Us equipment.... its like the Malvinas war man.... they had great Harriers fighting against 40 years old Skyhawks....with no sidewinders, no onboard radar, no IFF, no counter measures. some of them didnt even have an ejection seat..... off course, they were wiped out from the skies, but not because they were bad pilots but because great tech advantages. Congrats on your "victory" anyway.

[juanecheyt]

@willychong8921 In World war II , on the other hand, absolutely SHITTY shermans faced the real hitech tanks from that age... they won that time , not because they were good tank crews, or they had good tanks but because they were too many. and had unlimited reinforcements. Germans killed thowsands of shermans, but they kept coming and coming.... Numbers won that war.

[willychong8921]

@juanecheyt Eerr, I don't think so, despite what you think on how shitty the Sherman was, it was a high tech weapon, its weight gave it an edge in terms of maneuverability, maintenance and fuel efficiency, which the German at that time completely ignored, they produce "high tech" tanks which in reality not only unreliable but also impractical, for me the true high tech German tanks were the Panzer III and IV series, along with the Stug Assault gun series.

[meee2014]

@willychong8921 no sherman where shitty tanks, they where upgraded as soon as possible, but they still couldnt penatrate panthers and tiger2 armour, soldiers used to tie logs around the sherman in hopes that it will increase their protection, the gun on the sherman was nicknamed the pea shooter. get real and just admit that sherman wasnt a good tank

[juanecheyt]

@willychong8921 The great thing about Shermans was how easy they were to build.. and how cheap.. no tech advantages, no great firepower.. no good external armour, to tall to conceil...... AWFULLY designed, and im not talking about What i think here.... youre talking to a 39 years old war historian , not to some call of duty player. They won because no matter how many the EXCELENT Panzers destroyed, they kept coming, they were too many. English crews called them... rolling coffins for a reason.

[juanecheyt]

@willychong8921 Oh, and german panzer crews called them Shermans... "Ronson Cans"... (you may know Ronson.... the famous Ronson oil, the lighter fuel) because it was needed just one shot to make them burn.

[popper504]

In world war 2 , some German tanks with the pak 43 could hit targets at 3000 meters and destroy them

[tosa275]

Bastards excerrate the arab power which is just comic..all the western world has attacked these poor ıraqies and trying to show them as a serious enemy..these primitive arabs can only kill their people,nobody else..

[XxEntaroAdunxX]

@tosa275 Arrogance is one of the reasons why armies fall.

[cal45deserteagle]

it is a one sided battle, even without the Abrams the US still wins hands down, years ago I have an opportunity to chat with a Dubai/ Pakistani mujaheddin, he said those American and British MLRS and the Air Force did the most Damage to the Iraqi Army including his battalion. When he saw those MLRS Rockets trails he just run like hell. He said he dos not even have the opportunity to have a fire fight with the adversary.

[burningphoneix]

@cal45deserteagle Wait....what's a Pakistani Mujaheddin doing in Dubai? And why was a Pakistani Mujaheddin a tanker in the Iraqi Army?

[Com18Alpha]

@cal45deserteagle Man, Iraqi Army must have had a streak of terrible weather reports: "Today's forecast is more and more Steel Rain!" [Soldiers groan] "To those who do not know the drill in case of Steel Rain, find a hardened bunker and take cover! Forget about the vehicles outside! Artillerymen newcomers, do not counter-battery fire. Chances are that you will die by counter-counter battery fire by the next Steel Rain!"

[cal45deserteagle]

@Com18Alpha True, specially the new mod. of MLRS Rockets and War heads. If you want to stop a Massive Mechanized Trust with higher casualty, use MLRS worked as advertised and some more.

[namznej]

I love all the idiotic comments slamming the Abrams. That tank is the most battle proven winner in modern tank warfare. Never mind the superior training of American tank soldiers. Just goes to show what idiots inhabit this planet of ours.

[gopconservative78]

The French sissies ran like woman into the arms of Iraqi forces as they surrendered

[vycka1234]

@gopconservative78 Now that's just not true. The French performed quite admirably.

[downloadgoblin]

@vycka1234 Yeah, the French did do a good job. Unfortunate that they were deployed to the far west. while, most of the action was in the middle to east of Iraq.

[popper504]

@vycka1234 Yea I know ; what a bunch of crap.

[powmful]

@UberVersatile

Ahh see. "The whole world". Not everyone, but especialy Western countries. Just so you know. The US put Saddam in power (ironic isn't it) back in the 60's. When he gassed the Kurdish people, the US just watched. But as soon as he invades Kuwait. America is like 'wow lets turn on our buddy here and go get him'. Now like you said the free oil from Kuwait is gone. America attacks, as does the coalition allied forces..

[kertaspaper94]

@powmful The same story goes with Hosni Mubarak. Well sort of. America used to be Egypt's ally, supplying weapons including the Abrams tank. But when Arab Spring began, what did they say ? Something like "He's a tyrant, he deserved it".

[powmful]

A T-72BM vs an M1A1 is equal.

The Iraqi monkey models, used outdated fire controlls, 1/2 propellant on their SABOT rounds due to shortages, no range finder, no ERA, the list is appalling. And they expected to take on the US, UK tank forces. Plus other small contingents.

Sadam wasn't the brightest man.

[UberVersatile]

@powmful He had no choice. Whole world against him for invading an even worse dictatorship but that was giving away free oil to the west.

[burningphoneix]

@powmful Don't forget that due to appalling shortages, some units were forced to use training SABOT rounds rather than the real thing!

[whylie74]

slighty over simplified but nevermind. for the truth a bout those iraqy T72s go to BlacktailDefence on here and watch Failed Tanks! ep 17, you will have to read abit though.

[lyugiang]

M-1 suck

[SAVSAV1212]

Nothing unusual that Saddams T-72s lost the battle. Because it were T-72Bs outdated export versions. They have nothing compare with standart soviet T-72A version wich has active protection and many other modern features. And in doc nothing said that the most of iraqi tanks were old chinese and old soviet T-54 tanks. And i consider that equal opponent for early abrams was T-80 tank.

[TheKimberRifleBloke]

@SAVSAV1212 Well come on you didnt think Russia was gona sell their good stuff did ya

[metempsychosis696]

@SAVSAV1212 Not just that, yo have to include a pathetic state and maintenance of those T-72's, their lack of equipment, quality ammo and many other issues, alongside lame morale! Also I see they fail to remind of heavy air support, and that a lot of those were obliterated by A-10's! These T-72's didn't even have ERA...which was already a standard equipment...that says a lot! plus everything that Russia sells (weapons wise) is always at least 20-30% weaker than what they use!

[danilomflores16]

the endings man! the endings!

[hernan267]

balas?

[motorsiegefan931]

Never really understood the point of sabot rounds/kinetic energy penetrators being used against tanks. They should only be used against smaller targets like APC's. HEAT rounds should be used against tanks as they're usually guaranteed to destroy it.

[MasterTaters]

@motorsiegefan931 Your mixing it up, heat kills crews real well(What is in the back of an apc, a squad) Tanks are harder to penetrate, t-55's and older t-72s can be easily penetrated by heat rounds because they do not have reactive armor or much thickness.

Modern main battle tanks are protected by composite armors and reactive panels designed SPECIFICALLY to defeat heat rounds. APFDS rounds are needed for these targets.

[motorsiegefan931]

@MasterTaters APFDS rounds aren't really effect against advanced composite armour like Chobham, which the Abrams and Challenger tanks use. They shatter any kinetic energy penetrators that impact them. What i mean is that how exactly does a very fast dart (a APFDS round) destroy or knock out large tanks like t-72s? does it explode or just make a hole? 

[MasterTaters]

@motorsiegefan931 m829a3 rounds can effectively penetrate a modern t 90 battle tank. And abrams have been totaled in friendly fire incidents by m829a1 rounds, you'd be very surprised what even older APFDS rounds do to these sort of tanks, a m829 will generally go ALL THE WAY THROUGH a t72, much less a t 55. Energy = 1/2 Mass x Velocity, what happens to a persons organs when hit by a bullet in a different part of their bodies. Tanks have these "organs" that can be destroyed.

[motorsiegefan931]

@MasterTaters depends really though what tank it was, those t-72's in Iraq were outdated export versions which used inferior ammunition, had lower-grade armour, making penetration very easy for coalition tanks, had no night vision, you name it. However if an Abrams came up against a Russian T-72 or T-90 then the results would probably be much different. Russian tanks have far superior armour, fire control systems, much more effective ammunition...

[motorsiegefan931]

@MasterTaters ...and the Russian t90's now have the Arena active protection system as well as ERA plates on them. So I'd say a standard T-72 or T-90 would have a pretty good chance against an Abrams. But those export versions the Iraqi's used didn't have a chance, they were downgraded in every possible way so as not to reveal the Russian tanks true capabilities. The same was true with Iraqi aircraft, such as the MiG 29, which were also downgraded versions of the true aircraft.

[MasterTaters]

@motorsiegefan931 This is now a different conversation than what we started with, im not going to start measuring tank-dicks so consider me out of this. This was about rounds. All im gonna say is russia can't actually afford ARENA and reactive armor on all its tanks. The most common russian model is a t-72 m. Its a joke compared to a modern m1a2 abrams with all its goodies on, just as badass as a t 90. Hit an abrams on the grating over its powerpack and its toast(Literally).

[motorsiegefan931]

@MasterTaters i doubt any very powerful country could afford to fully equip all of it's tanks/fighter jets, including the US.

[Waltham1892]

Hit a M-1 with a pure ass-shot and a couple of things are going to happen.

1. You are going to kill the power pack and the crew is probably going to get out.

2. You are going to hit the rear of the turret and the ammo goes up, and because the ammo is stored outside the crew compartment, the crew is probably going to get out.

Hit a T-72, or T-90 for that matter, with an ass-shot and you've lost the vehicle and the crew.

There is toast, and then there is toast.

[MasterTaters]

@motorsiegefan931 continued from first reply, most APFDS do not explode directly but commonly cause secondary explosions from spall and things hitting rounds in the tank, spall also does a great job killing crew, and needless to say a ap round through the crew compartment is very likely to do some damage, these rounds do great damage to anything they hit when you hit a mbt with these its hard to not hit something very important. Even an rpg 7 can ruin an abrams day, used right.

[motorsiegefan931]

@MasterTaters oh ok, yeah rpg's can destroy main battle tanks such as the Abrams if they hit in the right place. But most of those Iraqi insurgents couldn't shoot for shit with rpg's - most of them bounced off every Challenger and Abrams tank in Iraq lol. In one incident a Challenger was hit with over 70 rpg's and it was fine afterwards, what part of the tank they were shot at I don't know, but still only one rpg could have taken it out if shot in the right place, petrol bombs also do a good job

[skloser1]

Guys, the Abrams, challenger, and leopard are pretty much all equal, British have the best gun, Americans have the best speed and maneuverability but worst range, and leopard is kind of a balance. They all have about the same armor, although I do not think the Brits have a soft or hard kill system tell me if I'm wrong.

[UKNationalAirsoft]

how was the m1a1 tank the best on the battlefield someone forgot challenger...

[jesballboy]

@UKNationalAirsoft Because it is silly willy *rolls eyes*

[SMGJohn]

The Lion of Baybilon was a poor copy of T-72 licensed from the USSR and note that the Iraq army was poorly trained in this tank and they used vintage ammo. Surely a Soviet T-72 would be allot more devestating. So if US tanks meet Soviet commanded and built T-72 it would be a slaughter on both sides. The T-80 is somewhat superior to the M1A1 as well.

[SaintsSpecOps]

@SMGJohn

yes because your very factual and accurate opinion is very nessecary.

[SMGJohn]

@SaintsSpecOps Yeah isn't it? I think we need such comments among hyper patriotic Nationalistic Nazi Americans claiming M1 Abrams is God

[SaintsSpecOps]

@SMGJohn

nah i think its just a bunch of retarded ungrateful europeans trying to discredit americans

[SMGJohn]

@SaintsSpecOps You see there is a difference between us Europeans and you Americans. America originally BELONGS to us you see, you was our slaves. And we sent all braindead immigrants to America just to clean our beautiful society down here. But it seems like those braindead immigrants beslaved the black and we Europeans didn't like that very much so we sent some soldiers and killed some millions and then we left and all was good. It seems like your just doing whatever not listening to papa EU

[SaintsSpecOps]

@SMGJohn

no it didn't it belonged to the people here first. Thats the thing with you dumbss europeans and is why your constantly at war. You think your better and think you own everything. Isn't it sad the 2 most destructive wars were fought in europe. Are you blind or just too stupid to think. Immigrants left you shithole continent to america because it was BETTER. Also you didn't do shit about slavery, matter of fact IT WAS YOUR IDEA too enslave blacks.

[SMGJohn]

@SaintsSpecOps No, immigrants left for America because they where brainwashed and thought it was betteer but in fact it wasn't. And those so called 'people' that where in America first where Indians sadly 200 million of them where slaughtered in concentration camps. So you shut up and come back to British rule! Soon we will form the EUROPEAN SOVIET and then we will take back OUR stuff! Africa, America and half of Asia is ALL ours!!!

[SaintsSpecOps]

@SMGJohn

ok whatever floats your boat, have fun fighting your third world war

[SMGJohn]

@SaintsSpecOps Thank you I shall start conquering Africa because they are weakest

[schnappsundlarger]

@SMGJohn Did you have to practice being a scumbag piece of shit or did it just come natural??

[SMGJohn]

@schnappsundlarger No you see, I am a natural when it comes to make Americans hate me because I'm better then most American ignorant retards

[Th3Nigma]

@SMGJohn that's awful cute. What ever made you hate us so much? Is it because we invaded iraq? Wait a sec, you don't even live in Iraq. Stop bitching.

[SMGJohn]

@Th3Nigma Your attitude against the world and Socialism and how you just go around bombing nations ignoring the UN laws completey, personally I don't give a shit about Iraq but Libya is other business, so is Yugoslavia.

[Th3Nigma]

@SMGJohn What, are you going to say we invaded Yugoslavia because of OIL? they have virtually none, we went because the UN wanted us to.

"Your attitude against the world and Socialism and how you just go around bombing nations ignoring the UN laws completey" It looks like you sure do give a shit about Iraq.

And we're not going to sit idly by if any nation even remotely threatens our people.

[SMGJohn]

@Th3Nigma Great, I will also make a nation with 500 000 men army and invade any random nation saying they will nuke me. And then I'm going to carpet bomb them with napalm and say they have nukes and are terrorists. Also I'm going to build two big identical towers and fly two planes into them and make the collapse by placing demolision explosives inside

[Th3Nigma]

@SMGJohn Great, and I was going to spew conspiracy theories like an idiot and have no idea what i'm talking about, but you did a better job.

and my point is, if anything even REMOTELY threatens us, we will fight it.

[Pringles352]

greatest tank battle in iraq? when a fast moving convoy of british challenger 2's destroyed 11 iraqi tanks. The british army's greatest tank battle since WW2. :)

[lolololololololtoast]

Wasnt the Lion of Baybilon the Iraqi maid T-72?

[jnevins1234]

@lolololololololtoast yeah it was

[TheDagon23]

M-60 Patton is my favourite amrican tank. It's so beautiful :))

[aussieblackhawk123]

@TheDagon23 i know huh..gotta love it when there's reactive armour on it..

[NiamOfAsuras]

most powerful is m1a1 abrams.. rofl..

[thesoutherncross100]

@NiamOfAsuras Nope now is m1a2

[NiamOfAsuras]

@thesoutherncross100 Actually, the M1 Abrams has been regarded as one of the worst tanks in the 21st century, while the M84, the T90, and the Leopard 2 is currently at the top. The reason for the M1 beeing regarded as one of the worst is that it requires to be refueled quite oftenly, which gives you long and vulnerable supply chains.

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@NiamOfAsuras

Every tank needs refueling, but as you said the Abrams is vulnerable suply chains due to the Turbine Engine wich powers the Abrams M1a2.. In the A3 version people are talking about a possible Diesel Engine for the Abrams, Reducing Horse power, but increassing Combat Range.

[NiamOfAsuras]

@ThePanzerWarMachine However as it is right now, the abrams is one of the most vulnerable battle tanks of all, not by direct warfare, but by supply train sabotage. In addition, the engine is prone to overheating (tank crews have been known to cook food on the engine plate of the abrams when this occurs)

[WittyUsername816]

@NiamOfAsuras I think,THINK mind you, that we have fixed that issue. I am not entirely certain though. I case you hadn't figured it out I'm talking about the engine overheating.

[NiamOfAsuras]

This also makes it vulnerable to heat seaking munitions.

[WittyUsername816]

@NiamOfAsuras It may have to have a supply chain which is a very outstanding weakness, but it also can reach speeds of 60mph and can hit a target over 2 miles away, while moving, that combined with the fact that its turret's rotation, and the reloading system, is fully automated, more than makes up for this problem in my opinion.

[NiamOfAsuras]

@WittyUsername816 The top speed of the M1 abrams is rated to 67 Km/H, and the Leopard 2 can reach speeds of 72 Km/h, and hitting targets while moving is no big feat with todays computer calculating targeting systems.

"Automated" (Powered) turret rotation is no big feat and has been present on most tanks since the 70's, unless of course you mean the stabilization system.

The Auto loading system is a system planned for the M1A3 version, but is not yet present in the M1A2 version.

[Blueatchley12]

well our abrams is the tiger and those t-72's are the little t-34's a tiger thats more advanced and better cross country

[khooby922]

can't believe they actually gave the T-72 such a flattering description...

[AnimeGod1995]

I LOVE THIS THANK YOU!!! its MODERN TANK BATTLE!

[japsubshunter]

M60 HAS BEEN PHASED OUT ALREADY, All units now have M1A1 ABRAMS.

The Military dumped a s..load of the M60's to form a Reef for the fish.[REALLY]

Almost all of the M1A1/2/3's and Bradleys have been refurbished [and upgraded since the IraqWar-They are now basically brand new vehicles.

Herman Moore Cape Town South Africa

[zerocker45]

The M-60 Patton was also used there... RIGHT?

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@zerocker45

Yes, it was and still is the most numberous Tank in the U.S Millitary.

[zerocker45]

@ThePanzerWarMachine Its strange how they didn't show it there... Probably they got more losses in Tank battles against the T-72 than the M1 vs T-72.

[MontezumaUH60]

@ThePanzerWarMachine Yes the Patton was used, but only by the Air Force for EOD. It was retired some time ago

[RedneckRapture]

@ThePanzerWarMachine Wrong. The Patton was retired from service. The most used tank in the US Military is the M1A1, which has 4,393 in use in the Army and 403 in the Marines.

[Ariana321]

@ThePanzerWarMachine Not exactly. the M60 is only really used anymore as a "trainer" tank these days, it has otherwise been retired from service, with a large portion sold to other countries. The M1 Abrams far outnumbers the remaining M60s in storage.

[eaglehawk111]

@ThePanzerWarMachine

I thought that thing was retired in 1997?

[Eagle9294]

@eaglehawk111 It was.

[Eagle9294]

@ThePanzerWarMachine No it's not. It has been out of service for several years.

[MrHippos0nCrack]

@ThePanzerWarMachine really i thought that they were replaced by the Abrams in the 80s.

[screenwriter44]

@zerocker45 The Marines used the M-60, but not the army that I know of and I was there.

[zerocker45]

@screenwriter44 thanks for the info.

[screenwriter44]

@screenwriter44 2nd Brigade Forward, 1st Infantry Division in Germany might have had some M-60's left over, but can't confirm that. If you see footage of an M-60 in Desert Storm, it's the Marines most likely.

[Qwerty48121]

its called barrel life iraq.... you can't fire 1000 rounds and still expect it to shoot straight

[eastern2western]

iraqis were basically 30 years behind americans

[Saintironarm]

@eastern2western not tank wise, didnt u watch the clip

[smgjerald]

If germans dont have the best tech..Then why do the M1A2 got a a german gun(built under licence but still)? Well, doesnt really matter, everyone has a different opinion, me..From talking to tankers I would go for the leo2.

[killersaad]

@smgjerald german tanks is the best in the world since ww2

[SpywareHater]

@killersaad and only during WW2

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@SpywareHater

NO! they still are. Period.

[SpywareHater]

@ThePanzerWarMachine umm no. Not anymore. M1 Abrams still beat them,

[looxgood]

that is what happens if you use Russian equipemnts

[izvarzone]

Why do they shoot tanks with machineguns?

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@izvarzone

it is called supresive fire. You keep the enemy down so that they cannot fire back.

Problem is that it doesn't work with tanks that well.... they shoot back!

[Bloodlust20101983]

@ThePanzerWarMachine Well if you'd ever trained for the army you'd know that small arms fire on the tank is intended to damage sensitive equipment outside the armor. Namely era boxes, visors, smoke launcher tubes, radio antennas, thermal visors, spotlights, CROWS machinegun station etc. You can try to blind the tank or at least reduce its effectivness when its equipment malfunctions.

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@Bloodlust20101983

i am awere of that.

[SpywareHater]

@redeyeshannibal Don't even go with IEDs, I know far more about IEDs than you ever will. Why, because I am in a counter IED unit in Iraq, one of the last, I brief and elarn about IED TTPs daily. No matter what kind they are. also IEDs always vary in strength, type make, explosives and use, almost no IED can stop an Abrams. There is very few. out of 80 tanks taken out of Iraq, very few of them ( I cannot give you the exact number) were from enemy engagement.

[Point50Cal]

@SpywareHater I just love it when people bring up IEDs as a counter to the Abrams. See, what people don't realize is that the power of an IED depends on what you put in it. But here's the catch, the more powerful an IED is, the bigger and heavier it is, the longer it takes to set it up. IED is at its most effective when it's the least detectable, and adding more to it sacrifices that. An easily-detected IED is a useless one, even if it's got a nuke slapped onto it.

[SpywareHater]

@Point50Cal they are plain and simply ignorant, which is not bliss. Still completely agree.

[SpywareHater]

@redeyeshannibal they used to to be. They had the best tech in WWII, that is true, but not any more. I wouldn't go in a Leopard 2 at all, i do not care what people think. When your life is on the line I will pick an M1A2 Abrams because its nearly impenetrable.An AGM-65 Maverick and AGM-114 HELLFIRE have already failed to penetrate the haul.

[SpywareHater]

@redeyeshannibal Thw m1A2s are already superior to leopaard 2s. Lets start with how many tries did it take the Germans to finally find out modern tanks need to be mine protected, 7+ tries?

[smakota]

world of tanks really cool type in google

[P51F86F4F15F22]

the Bradly fighting vehicle got more armored vehicle kills than the abrams and that is because of our superior technological tactics and the way that we conduct our armored formations to be ready for anything

[livecave144]

The Abrams did face a modern tank in 91 the t72 now it hasn't faced a modern tank because it's allies have the modern tanks

[majorRajn]

@patrikasLTL From i know the most T-72 has been used Polisch Army then sold to Iraqis. They had no night vision at night were blind, old cannons automatic loading systems, ect

[ximagus]

Iraqi's army did NOT have thousands of t-72s. They probably at most had like 20. There tank army is consisted of retired Chinese t-69s where were extremely outdated. It's obvious they would get crushed.

[majorRajn]

@ximagus were did you got that info ?? Republican Gaurd was equipt with only T-72, Poland sold 100's of them to Itaq's

[majorRajn]

@ximagus My friend Tawakalna Division of the RG had T-72's, i think tere were more ten 20 T-72 tanks, dot'n poot post like this please.

[Tyco200]

Okay, uhm, T-90 better than Abrams, how? I understand T-80UD MAYBE and the Ukranian T-84 (Definitely), but T-90 is a piece of junk. Also, love how they look upon T-72 as "AMAZIN!!!" Really? ... Wow. Never heard of the T-64, 80Bs, ect. hm?

[chevygearhead454]

@patrikasLTL More like LATE vietnam era

[flx3086]

M1A2 use the 120 mm Gun which is just a copy of the german Glattrohrkanone from the Leopard 2. Without this cannon the Abrams would not so successfully.

[xXturbo86Xx]

lots of false info. another US propaganda "documentary"...

[OutlawAirsoftPA]

@xXturbo86Xx Howso? Just asking.

[thunderlock110]

@xXturbo86Xx We came, we saw, and we kicked ass. I don't see any propaganda in that.

[Biogem369]

What is this nonsense? Saddam Hussein did not have thousands of T72 in 1973, he received little more than a hundred 72 and the main tank of Iraq was a Chinese T55 and the Type 69's American liars)))

[TocTep]

@TLPEvIL You know what pisses me off? Ignorant Amerikkans. Oh and yes, almost forgot - T 90S > M1A2 ( or at least T90S=M1A2)

[Biogem369]

@TocTep Russian tank T-90S in the tests were held in extreme climatic conditions in the Sahara desert, left far behind their French, German and American counterparts. These tests were conducted about two years ago

[OutlawAirsoftPA]

@TocTep Can you explain how the Russian T90S is better than the M1A2?

[TocTep]

@OutlawAirsoftPA It's somewhat equal. Depending on tactics implied and what terrain used it can be beter in some aspects or worse. You have all of the internet in your disposal - goto tanknet forum, for example, - they will explain to you everything you want to know.

[MoneyMan8900]

Tank Battle of the Ages - 1,000 M1 ABRAMS vs 1,000 T-90s.

[kallumkadavu1]

hot spots.. may Iraqi soldiers

[roflcopterz4thewin]

all russian made items are really crappy quality

[SuperFinnish]

@roflcopterz4thewin Hah, any proof?

[limmy42]

@TLPEvIL and you have proven my point for me... thankyou.

[ferdieloverboy]

t72 tanks, were a leap forward, it has an autoloader, but the interior is small, and the crew were selected.

[duif463]

then you must now that where the old soviet tanks. dont wanne now wht the new 1 did whit them.

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@duif463

What?

soviet Tank are Budget tanks. for Countries who have yet another dictator and No Money. They are good Tank, but Nothing Compaired with Todays Main Battle Tanks. (MBT)

[duif463]

@ThePanzerWarMachine i mean those soviet tanks where old. and the soviet unie had made already new type. those new type had bead ther mbt up.

[Dogmeat1950]

@duif463 Old tanks can still defeat newer tanks, look at the 6 day war. Upgraded Sherman tanks were knocking out T-55 and newer Russian model tanks.

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@Dogmeat1950

Because the M-50 Super Sherman was Equiped with the Main Gun of the Panther Tank. That Gun is still today a Seriously good Gun. Put it on a Bradley with some modifications and you'll have a light tank with a serious punch!

[duif463]

@Dogmeat1950 aah after the war ther where new models of the shermen made but they look like the old 1. but t-55 was not new.

[limmy42]

@ThePanzerWarMachine That is the OLD Russian tanks, the new Russian T90 is just as good if not BETTER then the M1A2 Abrams

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@limmy42

that is true, the Russian T90R is my second favorite tank after the Leo2A7M. The Americans know that that T90 is better than the M1 Abrams, so that's why they made the M1A2SEP and are making the M1A3 Abrams.

[TheLloydA1]

@ThePanzerWarMachine i think one of the best tanks is the British Challanger 2 in my opinion.

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@TheLloydA1

true, but that Tank has it's own problems as wel.

[limmy42]

@TheLloydA1 definitely the fastest off road and still a worthy adversary to other monster MBT's such as the M1A2 and the T90

[brin3535]

@limmy42 The T90 is pure garbage compared to the modern M1A1. Do you have any idea how old this film is? You're garbage.

[limmy42]

@brin3535 do you know what really pisses me off? its bloody "patriotic" yanks that rock up tell everyone with free will and an opinion to shut the fuck up and then proceed to force feed the "american" way of thinking down everyones throats. this american way of thinking would be the one where apparently American weapons and battle vehicles are better then another countries.

[brin3535]

@limmy42 I couldn't care less about what pisses you off, mate. Don't like the truth? Tough shit.

[TocTep]

@ThePanzerWarMachine Use wiki to educate yourself about different versions of soviet tanks - for export and not. That would be an eyeopener for ya

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

@TocTep

Russian Tank aren't my specialty. And i dont use Wikipedia becuase it is In-accurate, And anyone can make a topic.

[TocTep]

@ThePanzerWarMachine You missed the point. But of course! After all its pleasant to think that you can overran russian tanks like tin cans. No info will ruin your image.

[Dogmeat1950]

@TocTep wiki does suck they even got the info on the invasion of Poland wrong.

want to know about Tanks pick up a book called Jane's Tanks.