we do stunts in pe all the time .. its for fun and we do it whilst the coach is there, and when the coach isnt there. we just love stunting. pretty good try :) btw.. does the flyer have hyper extended elbows? i have hyper extended knees lol <3 xo
@omgpurplemangos101 everytime I comment on something u have u have to jump in and say something so this needs to stop right now!! I dont even know u and so i am not going to start anything just leave me alone and I will do the same thank u very much!! :(
@220850ful I'm not stalking you, I'm putting you in your place. You aren't that good at cheer, so don't keep on telling people how bad they are. Grow up.
@omgpurplemangos101 You know what just back off I am good at cheer and those were just really old videos soooo u know u dont even cheer so shut ur trap and go away no one wants to hear what u have to say while u sit on ur lazy butt stalking people and making dirty comments!! U dont even know how hard i work to be good at cheer soo whatever!! Get off the freaken computer and go outside!!
@220850ful Yes I do cheer. I've been all star cheering for 9 years. I'm not making dirty comments at you. If anyone's making dirty comments, it's you. I'm obviously not a hypocrite. I don't stalk people, I make sure people like you don't sit here and criticize others. Just be quiet and stay in your place. I'm at the gym for a good majority of the week and I still maintain straight A's. I know many people that want to hear what I have to say. Don't say things that you can't prove, child.
@omgpurplemangos101 OMG I dont critize people you do! This whole thing wouldnt have started if u didnt write that comment about how I was not in my place WOW ur so immature and you shouldnt even be talking to me since I am young and u r old! Cant u get this in ur head cuz u keep bothering me and I dont care if u go to the gym ur probably lying and I go to the YMCA no big deal! I make As and Bs all the time ! ya I can prove what I was saying cuz its happening to me! GET A LIFE!!!!!!! :-I :-L
@220850ful I don't criticize people at all. I told you that you had no right to talk to those girls that way. You just need to give up. You're not going to win. And no I'm not old. I'm 14. And I was talking about the CHEER gym. Not the YMCA. I have a life and I manage to live it trying to avoid immaturity.
@omgpurplemangos101 Hahaha ur only 2 yrs older than me I am not fighting anymore just get out of my life and DONT COMMENT ON THIS ANYMORE OK!! GOT THAT MS.I CANT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING! LEAVE ME ALONE! BEFORE I GET REALLY MAD!!! GOODBYE!
@omgpurplemangos101 SHUT THE F**** UP!!!!!! UR A FREAKEN UGLY NERD!! I AM SOOO POPULAR ASK MII FRIENDS!!!!! GET OUT OF MY LIFE =!!! YOU STAY THE FREAK AWAY FROM ME GOT THAT! GOOD
@220850ful I don't see how you could say that, since you have no idea what I look like. Nerd really isn't an insult since if anything, it's a good thing to be smart. Of course, you wouldn't know anything about that. Stating that you're popular and to ask your 'friends' is really a moot, since I don't know your friends. In fact, I'm really enjoying bothering you. It's quite fun.
@omgpurplemangos101 whatever ur just saying that cuz ur a nerd urself and i go to a private school so i am way more advanced thatn u public school people forget it u harry potter nerd,,,,,,,,,,,u know i am popular look me up on facebook gawwgeaous so i dont want to fight i have a good life and i am not going to ruine it and of course its all because of u.......look at all these other people making mean comments u dont do anything but u just have to pick on me dont u!!!!
@220850ful Ha, I'm probably cooler than you. Way to be stereotypical, if you know what that means.
No, you don't know how I look. I don't have a picture of me up here. I really don't care what your opinion of me is.
I go to a private school, also. I've been going to a private school all my life. And you are not more advanced than me. Your grammatical skills do not reflect well on your 'advanced' school. I see your picture on your channel. You look like a gorilla. Have a nice life, bitch!
@omgpurplemangos101 shutup u are a nerd u have a freaken dragon on ur pic and yes u used to have a pic of urself!!!!! i used to be in advanced classes ad dont call me a bad word i am reporting u nowwww hahahahahaha ur gonna be in trouble!!!!!!!
@220850ful It's not a dragon. It's a new sort of animal called a BIRD.
USED to. Key word? USED. Maybe those horrid grammatical skills are the reason for the past tense. You're the one that looks like an ape. I could report you for polluting the minds of everyone that clicks on your channel.
Child, I'm not afraid of you. I can always make a new account. You're not cool one bit. You're a bitch.
@omgpurplemangos101 WoW thats all u can say! Hahahahaa ur pothetic it doesnt really bother me in any way that u say this stuff! Ha ur just a silly inmature brat! Whatever! Bye
@220850ful I'm, in your words, 'pothetic.' You're not really one to talk here, honey. You're just being self conscious. I don't blame you. If I looked like a gorilla like you, which I don't, I probably wouldn't be as cocky. If was 'inmature', I wouldn't know how to spell and I wouldn't be right 100% of the time I'm owning you. Think about it, Bitch.
Also, I'd probably change your channel description since you're not funny, nor are you gorgeous. Think on it.
@omgpurplemangos101 Is it really necessary to argue with a child?? ESPECIALLY about grammar?? Not only are you arguing with her but you are insulting her. I find that highly unnecessary.
@lilazncutie29 Normally, I wouldn't argue with a child about grammar. In this case, I find in necessary. The 'child' is saying that she's more advanced and drawing conclusions that she can't prove. I'm fourteen. I'm not that old.
@omgpurplemangos101 (*it*) Well still, kids will be kids and they say a lot of things but that doesn't mean you should argue with them.Everybody makes mistakes so you shouldn't judge her for them. You're still older than her and she's still a child.
@lilazncutie29 You obviously do not know how this has all came about, then. It started out with a child's immaturity. If anything, I was just trying to help a child learn that she isn't perfect, so she shouldn't act like she is. That's pretty much all it was. I'm not here to argue with people. I'm just making a point.
@omgpurplemangos101 Well you can make your point clear without insulting her. If you're not here to argue with people then you should have calmly handled the matter instead of continuing it if you knew the child was in the wrong.
@lilazncutie29 No, this is coming from two completely separate conversations. She was bashing two other girls who were really good and saying that they sucked and that she was better. I said that she really wasn't that good and that she had no business telling them how bad they were. That's all that happened. I don't see how you got into this, but you really should stay out of it.
@omgpurplemangos101 Well I got into this because when I happened to stumble across this video, I also stumbled across this debate you guys were having and I saw how you were being mean to her. I understand you may have the right to be angry at her but I didn't think you should handle it with insults and profanity.
@lilazncutie29 Oh, come on. Seriously? How much is she paying you. A narcissistic child is talking about how she's so 'amazing' at cheerleading and you're saying I'm being mean to HER? I can't help that I get angry, since my disorder tends to make me overreact, but at this time I feel that I have a right to be mad and handle it whichever way I feel necessary.
@omgpurplemangos101 Well if that is what you disagree with then that is what you should stick to debating about but you took it to another level and decided to curse and pick on her grammer. Yes you do have the right to be angry but you shouldn't feel like its necessary to deal with it in that manner.
@lilazncutie29 I wasn't picking on her grammar. I was proving a point. She claimed that she was more 'advanced' because she attends private school, as do I. I just said that her grammatical errors and unintelligent way of typing state otherwise. Believe it or not, I'm a very nice person. I can only be pushed so far.
@omgpurplemangos101 Well then this was all just a misunderstanding on my part. But uh do me a favor and go ahead and try to set that girl straight. I read the whole conversation you guys had and she's a brat.
@lilazncutie29 omg she will find anything to say about you when its not true! trust me we have been fighting and she says bad things that arent even true!! she thinks she has a right to say them but she is just a little nerd that picks on people for commenting on this video! i went through it hunn so u better stop now before it gets worse! sorry!! thanks, hayleigh :]
@220850ful She didn't say anything about me. Well if it's not true then you should ignore her! She does have a right to say it just as much as you do. It's called freedom of speech hun. I agree she was picking on you but she had a good reason. What are you talking about I'm not arguing with her. Who's Hayleigh??Ok im lost.
@lilazncutie29 me 220850ful is just my username.... i wasnt even trying to be mean and ur getting like really snappy i was trying to be nice to warn u about how mean she is when she calls me a bitch and stuff and all i did was comment on the vid... whatever!
@220850ful Yea no chizz captain obvious.Im gettin snappy because I read the argument and I strongly disagree with your comments.Oh wow, she's mean, boo hoo watcha gonna do??Tell your mommy??She has a right to be. She called you one because YOU ARE ONE! Your comment on this video was uncalled for. Such negativity for such a young child.
@220850ful XD LMAO!!I'm not even mexican!! Oh boo hoo I'm gonna go and cry to my mommy because you insulted me, wahhh! Bitch I don't even give a fuck! First of all, as I have stated earlier I am not mexican. I shall make that clear for you since apparently you are mistaken. Second, you can't even spell fucken right. Damn, retard I swear. And lastly, how do you go from "she called you a bad word" to using it yourself. You make me laugh so hard with your little ignorant puerile self.
@omgpurplemangos101 hahaha u can only say bitch and u think ur smart cuz u can spell! when have i spelled incorrectly.... see u havent proven ur point and i will show u a picture that will show u i look gorgeous cuzz i am, or at least that is what everybody thinks! as to you ur a little whore and u need to back off! u have no idea what my life is like i can sing good and i am pretty for your information soo ur wrong! i am funny how would u know? oh ya u wouldnt because ur a retarded monkey!!!
@220850ful I am smart. I'm pretty sure that most people with straight A's and who managed to keep a 4.0 GPA all year is pretty intelligent. Ha, you've spelled a lot of words incorrectly. I'm not even going to get started. You already showed me a picture. You look like an ape. Go get your eyebrows done. No, you're not pretty. You're just quite cocky. Haha, oh you children. Retarded monkey? You would know. You probably ride to school with them on your short bus.
@omgpurplemangos101 i do get my eyebrows waxed with my mom at asia nails in ocala fl, where i live! whatever i am just shortening the words and the rest are typos.... no school buses are for poor people i ride in a car to school.. people on the bus get hurt! my mom cares about my safety. whatever ur poor and ur nothing to meee!!! i agree i look bad in that pic not going to argue but that was when i was about to go to bed my mom just wanted to take a pic, night before the dance! duhhh
@220850ful That was a bit too much information. I don't need to know specifically where you get them done. No, my dear, I'm most certainly not poor. I live in a very nice neighborhood in upper New York. Now please, go get a reality check and change that extremely unflattering picture of you off and replace it with another form of primate.
@220850ful That one's just as bad. Don't flatter yourself. Seriously though, you just called her a dirty Mexican? Now not only are you a bitch, but you're also racist. That's terrible. Go get some values.
@bunnybeaner totally agreed. where was the teacher anyway. They must be stupid because either they let this happen or were ignoring their class. Either way. I'm sorry but they shouldn't be doing stunts there, no matter how easy they are.
haha its funny how they say 2, 3 instead of 1, 2
blondecheer372 8 months ago
we do stunts in pe all the time .. its for fun and we do it whilst the coach is there, and when the coach isnt there. we just love stunting. pretty good try :) btw.. does the flyer have hyper extended elbows? i have hyper extended knees lol <3 xo
Alishable 1 year ago
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omgitshmalee 1 year ago
wow that was good........NOT!!!!!
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful You can't expect it to be great...it's a gym class.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 i know sorry and y do u always like stalk evrything i say geese
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful I don't stalk everything you say. Care to explain?
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 everytime I comment on something u have u have to jump in and say something so this needs to stop right now!! I dont even know u and so i am not going to start anything just leave me alone and I will do the same thank u very much!! :(
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful I'm not stalking you, I'm putting you in your place. You aren't that good at cheer, so don't keep on telling people how bad they are. Grow up.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 You know what just back off I am good at cheer and those were just really old videos soooo u know u dont even cheer so shut ur trap and go away no one wants to hear what u have to say while u sit on ur lazy butt stalking people and making dirty comments!! U dont even know how hard i work to be good at cheer soo whatever!! Get off the freaken computer and go outside!!
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful Yes I do cheer. I've been all star cheering for 9 years. I'm not making dirty comments at you. If anyone's making dirty comments, it's you. I'm obviously not a hypocrite. I don't stalk people, I make sure people like you don't sit here and criticize others. Just be quiet and stay in your place. I'm at the gym for a good majority of the week and I still maintain straight A's. I know many people that want to hear what I have to say. Don't say things that you can't prove, child.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 OMG I dont critize people you do! This whole thing wouldnt have started if u didnt write that comment about how I was not in my place WOW ur so immature and you shouldnt even be talking to me since I am young and u r old! Cant u get this in ur head cuz u keep bothering me and I dont care if u go to the gym ur probably lying and I go to the YMCA no big deal! I make As and Bs all the time ! ya I can prove what I was saying cuz its happening to me! GET A LIFE!!!!!!! :-I :-L
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful I don't criticize people at all. I told you that you had no right to talk to those girls that way. You just need to give up. You're not going to win. And no I'm not old. I'm 14. And I was talking about the CHEER gym. Not the YMCA. I have a life and I manage to live it trying to avoid immaturity.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 Hahaha ur only 2 yrs older than me I am not fighting anymore just get out of my life and DONT COMMENT ON THIS ANYMORE OK!! GOT THAT MS.I CANT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING! LEAVE ME ALONE! BEFORE I GET REALLY MAD!!! GOODBYE!
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful That's a way to get what you want. This isn't mad? Hm, I'd like to see that. You must be explosive when you're really mad.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 SHUT THE F**** UP!!!!!! UR A FREAKEN UGLY NERD!! I AM SOOO POPULAR ASK MII FRIENDS!!!!! GET OUT OF MY LIFE =!!! YOU STAY THE FREAK AWAY FROM ME GOT THAT! GOOD
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful I don't see how you could say that, since you have no idea what I look like. Nerd really isn't an insult since if anything, it's a good thing to be smart. Of course, you wouldn't know anything about that. Stating that you're popular and to ask your 'friends' is really a moot, since I don't know your friends. In fact, I'm really enjoying bothering you. It's quite fun.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 whatever ur just saying that cuz ur a nerd urself and i go to a private school so i am way more advanced thatn u public school people forget it u harry potter nerd,,,,,,,,,,,u know i am popular look me up on facebook gawwgeaous so i dont want to fight i have a good life and i am not going to ruine it and of course its all because of u.......look at all these other people making mean comments u dont do anything but u just have to pick on me dont u!!!!
220850ful 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 oh i shouldnt even be talking to u since ur not cool lets just say that and i do know how u look u do have a pic of urself??
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful Ha, I'm probably cooler than you. Way to be stereotypical, if you know what that means.
No, you don't know how I look. I don't have a picture of me up here. I really don't care what your opinion of me is.
I go to a private school, also. I've been going to a private school all my life. And you are not more advanced than me. Your grammatical skills do not reflect well on your 'advanced' school. I see your picture on your channel. You look like a gorilla. Have a nice life, bitch!
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 shutup u are a nerd u have a freaken dragon on ur pic and yes u used to have a pic of urself!!!!! i used to be in advanced classes ad dont call me a bad word i am reporting u nowwww hahahahahaha ur gonna be in trouble!!!!!!!
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful It's not a dragon. It's a new sort of animal called a BIRD.
USED to. Key word? USED. Maybe those horrid grammatical skills are the reason for the past tense. You're the one that looks like an ape. I could report you for polluting the minds of everyone that clicks on your channel.
Child, I'm not afraid of you. I can always make a new account. You're not cool one bit. You're a bitch.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 WoW thats all u can say! Hahahahaa ur pothetic it doesnt really bother me in any way that u say this stuff! Ha ur just a silly inmature brat! Whatever! Bye
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful I'm, in your words, 'pothetic.' You're not really one to talk here, honey. You're just being self conscious. I don't blame you. If I looked like a gorilla like you, which I don't, I probably wouldn't be as cocky. If was 'inmature', I wouldn't know how to spell and I wouldn't be right 100% of the time I'm owning you. Think about it, Bitch.
Also, I'd probably change your channel description since you're not funny, nor are you gorgeous. Think on it.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
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lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 Is it really necessary to argue with a child?? ESPECIALLY about grammar?? Not only are you arguing with her but you are insulting her. I find that highly unnecessary.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 Normally, I wouldn't argue with a child about grammar. In this case, I find in necessary. The 'child' is saying that she's more advanced and drawing conclusions that she can't prove. I'm fourteen. I'm not that old.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 (*it*) Well still, kids will be kids and they say a lot of things but that doesn't mean you should argue with them.Everybody makes mistakes so you shouldn't judge her for them. You're still older than her and she's still a child.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 You obviously do not know how this has all came about, then. It started out with a child's immaturity. If anything, I was just trying to help a child learn that she isn't perfect, so she shouldn't act like she is. That's pretty much all it was. I'm not here to argue with people. I'm just making a point.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 Well you can make your point clear without insulting her. If you're not here to argue with people then you should have calmly handled the matter instead of continuing it if you knew the child was in the wrong.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 No, this is coming from two completely separate conversations. She was bashing two other girls who were really good and saying that they sucked and that she was better. I said that she really wasn't that good and that she had no business telling them how bad they were. That's all that happened. I don't see how you got into this, but you really should stay out of it.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 Well I got into this because when I happened to stumble across this video, I also stumbled across this debate you guys were having and I saw how you were being mean to her. I understand you may have the right to be angry at her but I didn't think you should handle it with insults and profanity.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 Oh, come on. Seriously? How much is she paying you. A narcissistic child is talking about how she's so 'amazing' at cheerleading and you're saying I'm being mean to HER? I can't help that I get angry, since my disorder tends to make me overreact, but at this time I feel that I have a right to be mad and handle it whichever way I feel necessary.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 Well if that is what you disagree with then that is what you should stick to debating about but you took it to another level and decided to curse and pick on her grammer. Yes you do have the right to be angry but you shouldn't feel like its necessary to deal with it in that manner.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 I wasn't picking on her grammar. I was proving a point. She claimed that she was more 'advanced' because she attends private school, as do I. I just said that her grammatical errors and unintelligent way of typing state otherwise. Believe it or not, I'm a very nice person. I can only be pushed so far.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 Well then this was all just a misunderstanding on my part. But uh do me a favor and go ahead and try to set that girl straight. I read the whole conversation you guys had and she's a brat.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 Oh, I see. Well, I'm sorry if I offended you.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 No need to apologize, I wasn't offended. But I hope I didn't offend you either.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 Okay, great. Don't worry--I wasn't either.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 Good :)
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 omg she will find anything to say about you when its not true! trust me we have been fighting and she says bad things that arent even true!! she thinks she has a right to say them but she is just a little nerd that picks on people for commenting on this video! i went through it hunn so u better stop now before it gets worse! sorry!! thanks, hayleigh :]
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful She didn't say anything about me. Well if it's not true then you should ignore her! She does have a right to say it just as much as you do. It's called freedom of speech hun. I agree she was picking on you but she had a good reason. What are you talking about I'm not arguing with her. Who's Hayleigh??Ok im lost.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 me 220850ful is just my username.... i wasnt even trying to be mean and ur getting like really snappy i was trying to be nice to warn u about how mean she is when she calls me a bitch and stuff and all i did was comment on the vid... whatever!
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful Yea no chizz captain obvious.Im gettin snappy because I read the argument and I strongly disagree with your comments.Oh wow, she's mean, boo hoo watcha gonna do??Tell your mommy??She has a right to be. She called you one because YOU ARE ONE! Your comment on this video was uncalled for. Such negativity for such a young child.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@lilazncutie29 Whatever u dirty mexican!! Hahaha you are the fucken bitch here! Haha dis is funny shit right herr!!
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful XD LMAO!!I'm not even mexican!! Oh boo hoo I'm gonna go and cry to my mommy because you insulted me, wahhh! Bitch I don't even give a fuck! First of all, as I have stated earlier I am not mexican. I shall make that clear for you since apparently you are mistaken. Second, you can't even spell fucken right. Damn, retard I swear. And lastly, how do you go from "she called you a bad word" to using it yourself. You make me laugh so hard with your little ignorant puerile self.
lilazncutie29 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 hahaha u can only say bitch and u think ur smart cuz u can spell! when have i spelled incorrectly.... see u havent proven ur point and i will show u a picture that will show u i look gorgeous cuzz i am, or at least that is what everybody thinks! as to you ur a little whore and u need to back off! u have no idea what my life is like i can sing good and i am pretty for your information soo ur wrong! i am funny how would u know? oh ya u wouldnt because ur a retarded monkey!!!
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful I am smart. I'm pretty sure that most people with straight A's and who managed to keep a 4.0 GPA all year is pretty intelligent. Ha, you've spelled a lot of words incorrectly. I'm not even going to get started. You already showed me a picture. You look like an ape. Go get your eyebrows done. No, you're not pretty. You're just quite cocky. Haha, oh you children. Retarded monkey? You would know. You probably ride to school with them on your short bus.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 i do get my eyebrows waxed with my mom at asia nails in ocala fl, where i live! whatever i am just shortening the words and the rest are typos.... no school buses are for poor people i ride in a car to school.. people on the bus get hurt! my mom cares about my safety. whatever ur poor and ur nothing to meee!!! i agree i look bad in that pic not going to argue but that was when i was about to go to bed my mom just wanted to take a pic, night before the dance! duhhh
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful That was a bit too much information. I don't need to know specifically where you get them done. No, my dear, I'm most certainly not poor. I live in a very nice neighborhood in upper New York. Now please, go get a reality check and change that extremely unflattering picture of you off and replace it with another form of primate.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago
@omgpurplemangos101 kk changing it now............ arguement over
220850ful 1 year ago
@220850ful That one's just as bad. Don't flatter yourself. Seriously though, you just called her a dirty Mexican? Now not only are you a bitch, but you're also racist. That's terrible. Go get some values.
omgpurplemangos101 1 year ago 5
that was sad..
MegaanElizaabeth 2 years ago
that was good, i wish i could do stunts in p.e class!!:D lol great job
cheerflyer2202 3 years ago
that was crappy?!?!
WannaluvU2baby 3 years ago
aaaaaand this is why gym teachers don't teach cheerleading. they are underqualified and have no concept of stunting safety.
bunnybeaner 3 years ago
@bunnybeaner totally agreed. where was the teacher anyway. They must be stupid because either they let this happen or were ignoring their class. Either way. I'm sorry but they shouldn't be doing stunts there, no matter how easy they are.
LLDancer28 1 year ago
lock your legs tighter.
& quit shaking.
& let them throw you higher for your cradle.
& you need stronger bases.
but other than all that.
good job
anonymous01000 3 years ago
wow! thats all you can do?
vanessaxox10 4 years ago