Robert Greenwald discusses Stop the Kennedy Smears on MSNBC

[StoogeWatcher]

Fascist Democrats hate free speech. These are the same liberals who advocated killing the Danish cartoonists.

[exenrontexas]

Republicans ALWAYS have to try to rewrite history to build up their failed presidents. The last good Republican president was Eisenhower and before that you had to go all the way back to Teddy Roosevelt. Rather than run good men for public office, the GOP tears down the good Democrat presidents.

[charliemctruth]

I told Jack 49 years ago to keep his cock under wraps..The cunt had a worldly erection...........Kennedy had a workable hard on...

[RWDixon8r]

Now, if you compare this interview to the one done on CNN, the one on CNN was able to be bipartisan, and to be able to look at both sides, further proving that CNN is not liberal.

Now, I'm not saying MSNBC is bad, because in reality, they get their facts straight, and they express their liberal opinions while backing up the facts, unlike FOX "News." I just find it rather interesting that people still attack CNN.

Also, stop the Kennedy smears!

[TheDuckofLaw]

stop the smears

[jakobdrewaut]

I think he would have been (perhaps was) the best president usa had.

[DownLowProductions]

here goes the right rewriting history again.

[restlys]

lol i trully love people who go : " I dont like it, hence its false"

i dont care if you tell me its factually innacurate...apparently theres schoolars on the other side saying its factually accurate ! so, people who say theres going to be smears.....what are you going to do?

Oh and btw, propaganda still means information. By itself its not bad, if its false - then were talking(refer to point one)

[nilbud]

What the fuck are you on about?

[restlys]

@nilbud im pointing out that his criticisms are on a differently analytical level than the documentation they offer...hence its invalid for us. See you cant say " i dont believe this " when your reading a scientific study...unless you attack it qualitatively . So you could say stuff like " well the pop. is insufficient, you cant generalize, correlation does not mean causation, the authors are stretching their conclusions" etc etc...

But you cant argue with us and prove your point, go to them

[Strutinan]

@restlys

YEAH! Its like with cigarettes and cancer, there are DOCTORS (paid by the tobacco companies) that say the two things have nothing to do with each-other, and despite the OTHER 99.9999% of so-called doctors (with jobs at shitholes like Johns Hopkins) saying they ARE related...I CHOOSE to BELIEVE what my reich-wingnut propagandist tells me! After all, propaganda NEVER hurt ANYBODY!

/sarcasm, you fuckwit Faux Noise addicted shill

[restlys]

@Strutinan lol everybody calm down, I actually got more info on this and apparently this documentary is full of holes....Stuff like "this person was there at that time" when she was documented as being somewhere else.

I was commenting on the level of information he was dealing with, and our ability to be critical of that information. I.e. if a historian comes and tells me something about another historian's theory, how am i to have an opinion on all of it? I say to Robert, get the infodiscred.

[KeeperOfTheWord]

Faux Spews meet the National Enquirer?

Surely, you jest!

Faux Spews IS the National Enquirer of the air.

[deliciousmorton]

very keen perception.

[saadasim]

If Bush had 1/10 the intelligence of JFK, he might have been an average president.

[navtel]

kennedy was the last good president of the USA.. there has been so many disasters since then they are trying to slander the kennedys' so as to make some of the other idiots not seem so bad.. wouldn't you agree george?

[getplaning]

The History Channel is crap anyway. Revisionist history entertainment.

[kazooga1234]

its caz the kennidys dont fucking deserved to be bashed on and its not history so we cant ruin education like the fucking republicans want after all the fucking republicans want to say that evolution might not be the only thing in text books and thats no go caz it is real and here is the fucking proof if your a stupid chirstain like the moronic republicans wimp(dot)com/niceinfo

[deliciousmorton]

speaking of education, ever hear of a run-on sentence?

[kazooga1234]

maybe that is caz the education system in america sucks or maybe its just caz there r only 500 charaters and i never no how many charaters i am going to use in a comment there for using puncuation takes up more space and i tend to have to go back and delted things like the yo in the word u and it takes to long to do and i dont like to post more then one comment but i do try 2 spell out as many words as i can and look at this just to prove to u want i do this comment took up 500 charaters exactly

[deliciousmorton]

it's obviously a grammar issue.

[kazooga1234]

no im doing that purposely u dumbass and u have proven that u r a dumbass for saying that it should be okay that every1s education gets more destroyed then it already is but then again i think it could just be caz u r a prick like all the republicans

[deliciousmorton]

@kazooga1234 when did i say "that it should be okay that every1s education gets more destroyed then (even though it is spelled 'than') it already is?

also, i never said, or even hinted that i am a republican. if anything, you are the one who needs to defend your assertions.

[kazooga1234]

well by saying that robert greenwald shouldnt be going after the history channle u r saying that u r for destorying education caz the history channle is supposed to be educational and what they want to put on the history channle about the kennedys isnt history at all and u also have a comment removed so i wouldnt be surprised if u have some stupid shit written in that one as well but i will give u the benefit of the doubt and say it was a copy of something else u said

[deliciousmorton]

@kazooga1234 first of all, i said that greenwald was wasting his time because: 1. the kennedys are wealthy enough to defend themselves from smears. 2. the history channel has no educational value, and that if anyone thinks of the programming of the history channel as "educational", then they are too uneducated and confused to know the difference anyway.

[deliciousmorton]

@kazooga1234 secondly, what have the kennedys done for you lately?

[kazooga1234]

they might be wealthy enough to defend themselves but defending yourself isnt good enough it helps to have an army on your side fighting to make sure that shit like this doesnt happen and he isnt just fighting for the kennedys he is fighting for education and to make sure there isnt another fox news shit thing happening caz what we need right now is to take down fox not create a new fox

[deliciousmorton]

i like a lot of greenwald's older work, but his newer stuff has me twisted.

try as he may, he's not going to find too many working class or poor people who will sympathize with the kennedys. why should they? after all, most of us have no health coverage, our living standard is declining, and our representatives only represent corporate interest. the only thing the kennedys have to deal with is verbal accusations from a channel that nobody really takes seriously anyway.

[kazooga1234]

your wrong caz ted was trying to get us health care reform it was something that he put his entires life work into doing and he also saved many poor peoples lives caz he payed for their health care when they needed a serious operation and couldnt afford it caz the insurance company was being pricks and dropped them instead of going through with what they where supposed to do so your accusations are completely wrong not to mention he is trying to stop a new fox from happening

[deliciousmorton]

yes, but even teddy's plan would have left over 12 million uninsured. he opposed the single-payer system (the health system that most americans want) until the day he died.

[kazooga1234]

no it wouldnt have he didnt oppose single payer he also would have been for the public option its the other democrats that r listening to the republicans and being sellouts that r destorying universal health care ted would have liked the public opiton that almost passed to prob be strong and thats accually y it wasnt passing caz a desent amount of the congress people didnt think it was strong enough they thought it was to weak and i can prove all of this

[deliciousmorton]

go ahead, prove away.

[kazooga1234]

did for the most part in a PM hope you like being powned

[footonpedal]

agreed. anyone who watches any program on the "history channel" and takes it as actual history is a complete moron.

as for the smears, it's just rich people attacking rich people. greenwald needs to go back to making movies about how the rich are screwing everyone else. if the kennedys don't like the smears, they can take comfort in the vast amounts of wealth that they hold.

[pgdevil]

Discovery is even worse, look at this Christian propaganda:

/watch?v=bW0NN81mWbk

[klard]

Kennedy is by far the most intelligent President we have had since Abraham Lincoln. These producers make the mistake of assuming he has the intelligence of George W. Bush. Kennedy would not talk like that trashy fool Bush.

[Datillest1fan4ever]

@klard I just finished watching the show. It was great, it in no way makes Kennedy look bad, sure it shows how morally corrupt Kennedy was but it also shows how amazing of a President he really was. Im very liberal, and I enjoyed the show.

[bbbbmer]

'24' is a shitty show anyway... now the producers want to perpetuate GOP fabricated crap and pablum against a bonafide american hero, jfk... there is no 'history' in this 'documentary' and there is no morality in the GOP...

[nerdycub]

Well JFK increased the troop lvls of vietnam twice while stopping an offensive that would have won the war.

Teddy killed a hooker.

Looks like they smeared themselves.

[captcrais101]

@nerdycub

Teddy dived back into her to save her according to time magazine. He is guilty of reckless driving and manslaughter. Not murder.

[fsx23]

who hasn't killed a hooker or 2 lol

[MarmaladeINFP]

At least Teddy didn't shoot anyone in the face.

[ndyt]

MarmaladeINFP, yeah, he had people do that for him.

watch?v=5LctoUV-tag

[tavadon777]

JFK had only 16k troops in vietnam when he was assassinated, you are thinking of LBJ, so try and smear him instead of being ignorant of history.

[tavadon777]

She wasnt a hooker, she was an intern. Ignorant smears like this just make you look stupid.

[nerdycub]

Wait so saying he killed a hooker is a smear but saying he killed an intern isn't?

[tavadon777]

I didnt say he killed the intern, i was saying the girl you refered to was not a hooker. so saying that she was an intern is not a smear, because she was an intern, and yes saying that she was a hooker, when in fact she wasnt, is a smear, not only to ted kennedy but more importantly on the memory of that unfortunate woman.