Bale is a better Batman. He acts like a drunken idiot that way people dont suspect him as Batman. His helmet has a voice changer that makes his voice that way. You could see his character's pain in the Dark Knight, the joker made him question his perception of right and wrong. Also, Bale's Batman is more intimating. TDKs better because Nolan actually took aspects from the comics his movie was true to the lore. He used deep subtext in TDK. Batman was a movie that had no pyschological aspect.
@HillariousVideo360 I have to agree with you. Keaton's Batman seemed like a rich guy dressing up to be Batman. Bale's character seemed just as disturbed as the joker, but in a different way, making his transformation more believable.
@iantaylor124 it's fake? HOW?! It's someone doing a video on Batman! You wanna see something fake? Go on Google search and type in "SAW 8" then go on the video response, check it out and You'll know the true definition of "FAKE", also, stop being a fucking douche
You're analize is good and the good Batman movie would have been : Keaton as Batman vs. Ledger as Joker... but these 2 movies (Batman 1989 and Dark Night) are so diferent periods so it's hard to compare... personally I,like both as the way they are : classics of their own age
But I agree with the comment below by biguy617, they were both told from different views by the directors, each with a different but equally satisfying film. They were both the best out of both Batman movies series, too bad the others sucked hard, or weren't as good (ie Batman and Robin) but Batman Returns or whichever had Catwoman and the Penguin out of the older series was acceptable enough to watch again, same for Batman begins I guess
The main differences between Burton and Nolan's views of Batman is one Burton portrayed him as a murderous avenger. Nolan made Batman to be someone who took justice into his own hand but respected the law or he did not kill. 2 Burton gave Batman a car that was drivable. Nolan gave him a car that looked like a tank and can't turn at all. 3 Burton's Bruce Wayne is an eccentric nerd that is good with the ladies. Nolan's Bruce is a playboy. Nolan is more closer to the real batman minus the car.
Arkham City is the best piece of Batman media ever. As for Batman's hoarse voice in The Dark Knight, it's not like Bruce Wayne is talking like that non-stop. It's the Batsuit. It has microphones in it that alter Wayne's voice. Sort of ties in with the "hi-tech Batsuit" thing going on in the Dark Knight.
How? Are we watching the same movies? Keaton looks bland and 1D the whole 89 film. His wacky hair style makes him look even more ridiculous. He shows no pain from his parents death and he shows no emotion whatsoever. Bale? As the playboy he makes a lot of great jokes. Bale manages to portray the playboy Bruce, serious Batmanlike Bruce, and Batman effectively. Its believable that Bales not Batman, he acts like a dick so well. Bale is best, Keaton blows
While I think Ledger gave the better performance, I think Nicholson's was the better Joker.
With Nicholson there was the classic Joker, a psychopath who would do horrible things while stilll having a twisted sense of humor, and even getting a kick out of it (the electrocuting handbuzzer).
Ledger's Joker wasn't really written as the Joker, more of just a simple psychopath who just wanted to burn the world. Scary, yes, but not really the Joker, I don't think.
Actually, if anyone asked me what I thought the best Joker was, I would say Mark Hamill, particularly after Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. To which all my friends would probably say, "Who is Mark Hamill?" -_-
Mark Hamill is a legend as the joker....but he shouldn't be categorized with the physical appearances of Batman. Don't get me wrong he's excellent, but he does a voice not the acting which is difficult im not saying its not, but not as difficult.
@FlyingFocs I haven't seen much at all of that TV series. Its interesting...but its too campy and I don't blame him for it, that was the tone of the series itself
@yamisupersaiyan@FlyingFocs Have you guys heard John Di Maggio's joke from Under the red hood? If you ask me he was the best, although i will say that 1 performance alone doesn't make you "the best" he was a perfect mix between Ledgers darker joker and Hamill's hysteric joker
I loved the story of Red Hood....but I found the animation hard to get into. I think we have to give it time, as you said. Red Hood focused more on that Robin/Batman bond despite having Joker in it so it'll be interesting to see a movie where Jokers more of a focus
Though I think that Nicholson's Joker was better... I do believe that Ledger's Joker was more "credible".
I could see someone like that (a suicidal madman who gets his jollies by killing people) in real life as opposed to a mob kingpin who commits major crimes while dressed like a clown.
Ledgers Joker was scary and had some VERY funny moments. (Why so serious!?!?!) Bales Batman is the best ass kicker and he did an amazing job as Bruce. The voice didn't bother me all that much. Bruce Wayne is supposed to be an arrogant playboy so no one would suspect him. Keaton just looked weird and suspicious.
In my opinion, the old is better in style and voice, but the new is better equipped with tools, weapons, and a fucking tank for a car. However, I agree that the old still comes out on top.
Joker is a lame character in my opinion, but it's Joker, i think the 89 version of Batman have the better Joker because he actually have better and funnier jokes.
Dark Knight Joker wasn't that bad, but look lame and not even funny.
Not funny? When Gambols like you think you can steal from us and walk away, joker mumbling yeah was hilarious. In that same scene, Joker goes if we don't do anything gambol won't have a nickel for his grandma. He also says what happen? did your balls drop? Thats three jokes IN ONE SCENE. He pwns and is way better
Batman 1989: did it even show or tell you about Batman's origin at all? did it show or tell you how he lerned all the martial arts that he does? NO!
Batman Begins: Batman's origin was told in all depths of the character, showed you how he trained for 7-8 years in martial arts and trained to put the fear of God in the hearts of criminals, and disguised his voice so people he loved/talked to wouldn't know it was him.
ledger's joker sucks. and for the most part it's not his fault. it's nolan's. he made the joker what he is in the dark knight. ledger did a great job with the acting but that didn't help how underdeveloped and boring the character is. nicholson is the better joker by any means. he just feels like the goddamn joker. funny but also very psychotic. ledger just seemed to me like a serial killer in make up. people should make more fun of ledger's voice as joker rather that bale's as batman ..........
@david2000magic his voice was so monotone and just didn't seem like the joker. bottom line jack nicholson is the face of the joker. but the voice of the joker is motherfucking mARK HAMill
Nicholson tries too hard. He sucks, and the fact that we find out who he has is fucking retarded. Ledger is amazing. You're too obsessed with nostalgia. Anyone whos actually a fan of those shitty old movies are nostalgia freaks. Joker IS SUPPOSED TO BE SECRETIVE. Hello!! thats the whole appeal of the character. Why does he fuck with things? Because its fun. Thats the joker. Ledger isn't just psychotic, he's confident and brilliant in a way. Thats gone in the old
@yamisupersaiyan Nostalgia? Really? That's all you got to say about it? Nostalgia? I don't know about you but I was born in the year 2000. I saw The Dark Knight before i saw Batman 1989 and I can say that the 1989 version is better in every singe aspect. Maybe the action scenes and special effects in The Dark Knight were better but that's about it. I didn't even get the story in The Dark Knight. I tried to watch it serveral times. Notice how I said "tried" to watch it.
Well thats why, you're like 11. Batmans a complex story bro, contrary to popular belief. 1989 fails in so many ways. Joker kills Bruces parents, characters like Gordon and Dent are briefly looked at. The only thing I LIKED about that movie was the atmosphere. Every else sucked, in comparison to the comics. As a film its ok. But opinion or not, the movie is not how the comics are....making it flawed.
@yamisupersaiyan Nostalgia critic's video has it all. Idon't give a shit about the comics. I only want an entertaining movie. the dark knight wasn't very entertaining to me. maybe i will like it when i get to my older years to apriciate it more but for now the dark knight S . U . C . K . S.
*sigh* you don't give a shit about comics? First YOU'RE 11, don't curse man its not cool. Second, I really hope you're not representative of our next generation. Batman is a symbol in a lot of peoples hearts. He provides confidence and is a hero to many. Don't disrespect that. Its his humanity and struggles that make him so compelling. All of that is absent in 89. Fine, go ahead and worship that fail of an adaption. How pathetic
@yamisupersaiyan They are both excellent films. Dark Knight delves more into the darker side of the Batman medium, while Batman 89' is an action packed classic that set the standard for a Batman film. if we have something to rant about, turn our heads toward the campy colourful 60's tv show. that show was terrible, i mean they deputized Batman in that one! he's a creature of the night not a testicle-free moron in bedsheets!
TDK succeeded in perfecting the image of everything Batman. How hes received by Gothams people, how hes received by Gordon, by joker. Nolan managed to show how literally every person views Batman. He was able to come up with a plot that utilizes all these important characters from the comics. He effectively showed how Batman uses the darkness, and pain from his parents death. These are all there in TDK, but not really in the 89
I agree with about everything he said about Bale's performance being more... Emotive than Keaton's, but I think that that was intentional: I think Nolan's point (Particularly in Batman Begins) was to show how that raw emotion transformed him. And as far as The Dark Knight- Well, given the loss he suffered at the end, I'm wondering if we might not see a much darker, less emotive Bruce Wayne/Batman in The Dark Knight Rises.
I respect the 89 Batman for starting darker superhero movies, but TDK is far superior. I like Bale better than Keaton because he really seems to capture the duality of the character. Also my problem with Keaton was that he wasn't stealthy enough or intimidating enough. He seemed like the guy wearing a rubber costume while Bale felt like the real Batman. Jack Nicholson is nowhere near Ledger, Hamill is serious competition, but Nicholson is not even close imo. Excited for TDKR
@swemanD47 the pencil trick was great. but the hand buzzer scene was better. then when he starts talking to the charred corpse afterwards? truly psychotic.
@roland96able A great job? Are you even listening!? He doesn't look like he does in the comics, he doesn't have the same weapons he has in the comics, AND he never calls Batman "Batboob" like he does in the comics! I waited to hear him say that from beginning to end, and all I got were those stupid stories about his stupid scars!
I don't get why every one like the new Joker. Sure he is threatening but he does not follow the part. The Joker is supposed to be a crazy man who was neat but still cruel. He just looks like a kid who put grandma's make up on wrong. The joker is supposed to have nice short combed back hair. A purple suit and a flower in the pocket the squirts acid. I think that Heath Ledger did a horrible job as the joker.
as a kid i LOVED THE 1st batman movie from '89, the Dark knight movie brought i think a bit more enjoyable and darker bits to it but still: KEATON REMAINS THE KING DAMMIT!
I think there isn't a real way to compare the Jokers, because they took such a different approach at the character. If you wanted the comic book Joker, Nicholson. If you wanted a chilling, chaos-loving psychopath, go with Ledger.
Personally I like the Jack Nicholson joker because he is the Joker everyone knew from the comics both funny and maniacal at the same time while Heath Ledger doesn't make any jokes just psychopathic like Mark Hamill he was insane, funny and an amazing Joker just like Jack Nicholson and Bob Kane wanted Jack to play the role. Don't get me wrong Heath Ledger was pretty good but still Nicholson is my favorite Joker.
The better Batman overall IMO was Keaton's i grew up on the Bale's Batman and i like it,but i laugh when he makes that voice if he really sounded like that it would for me what and what between the two.The story in the original Batman seemed better even though i haven't watched all of it yet,but i still think the better movie(besides the story)i think it was great.And Heath's Joker just made my day just epic.But Jack's Joker was great too both great in they're own way.
Keaton's batman was darker, mysterious and didn't have to change his voice he naturally had that rough tone to him, although i did enjoy bale's batman develop with his gadgets (keaton's batmobile still rocks)
i'd say bale is the better batman because he got how bruce wayne and batman were suppose to be played. keaton was good but his wayne seemed more like a lost little kid. bale's wayne was a vapid playboy, which is how he's suppose to be. bruce is the mask over his batman, played up so that no one would even entertain the thought of bruce being batman.
Over all? I have to give credit where credit is due. I have to say the things that got Batman right were The Dark Knight and The Batman Arkham series. The Dark Knight got the Joker and the dilema's of being a superhero. Plus the action and the actors did a great job. But the Arkham series in the video games, I feel they combined all things in the Batman universe. The captured the Natural Batman feel in Tim's movies, the silliness of the Shumacher movies, the voice actors from AS, and scary Joker
A famous billionaire would have to hide his voice. Its as much protection as his mask, considering we now have internet, tv, radio...if he did not hide his voice everyone would know who he is.
EVERY one has made fun of this voice?? Well I must not be 'everybody' (I try not to conFORM like some of you, I"m my OWN man) ppl who don't GET the voice have lived in a fantasy Netflix/blockbuster world waaaaayy too long and can not imagine being in a world a NOLAN REALISTIC world where ppl here 'Batman' They think terror, urban legend and MYTH. WHen you guys here the name you think COMICbooks, toys and goofy actors (Clooney, West, Kilmer@TIMES). IN a REAL world that voice would crap your pants
@CubbieBear1980 Keaton's voice would make me crap my pants too. He also has the advantage of looking like Batman, not just like a guy dressed up as Batman.
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while Bale's batman voice is rather silly, it does get it's job done. I mean, wouldnt YOU be scared if someone yelled like that at you right in your face?
The Keaton Batman had the better voice, but he looked too short. Now where Keaton reigns supreme is those tight blue jeans and black turtle neck (the scene where Baysinger discovers Bruce is Batman). He pulls that look. Bottom line, they are both some of the best comic book movies ever made.
Uh....uh....uh....I...cant...CHOOSE! Both movies are amazing, but both do things that bother me. It's hard to compare them because they are so similar, yet so completely different. I think its a tie. They are both just incredible films.
lol sorry but Christian Bale is just soo superior to Michael Keaton. He changes his voice hardcore so that no one recognizes him nor would even think of making a comparison Keaton at times you can hear his voice break. Michael Keaton was great as Batman and was the best of the last franchise but Bale is just better
@mgk22 so just cause he changes his voice he;s better? HELL NO, bale's voice is just ridiculus, he tries to hard to be threatining and keaton naturally is, im sorry but keaton is so much better then bale
@COGOFWAR117 no its the fact that he hides his voice that makes him better at the very least, no one will suspect hes Batman at all and frankly in my opinion he sounds better as Batman he blows Keaton out of the water. Keaton most of the time had a good voice but it broke at times and it just didnt sound as meanacing in Returns but Bale keeps it consistent atleast. I grew up with Keaton so im making the comparison I see
@tricksterhuaun yeah but using that voice when hes hanging you over a an edge like flass or maroni I some how doubt your really gonna be thinking its over the top and even if you do he still means it. When I first heard his voice I found him to be threatening and scary something that Keatons batman(as much as I loved it) never made me feel. To me it shows hes human, hes trying to conceal his identity and he mentally gets lost in it which adds to it more. Nolan knew what he was directing n bale
Except for this is a 10 year old is physically imposing and makes me believe that he could actually physically harm me and isn't shorter than the female leading role.
How is Keaton a better Batman? Keaton as Batman walks around on the streets, uses ladders, stairs, and holds his cap out like Dracula. That's not Batman. He's not as intimidating as Bale's Batman. Bale's Batman is more allusive and stealthy, which allows him to better ambush or frighten his enemies. Keaton's not so much. Bale, as Bruce Wayne, wanted to instill fear into his enemies. The voice is just an extension of his intimidation. His voice was even modulated to get that effect.
@Starkiller011 Oh, and I suppose you think Adam West, Val Kilmer, and George Clooney were better. To me, Michael Keaton and Christian Bale are BOTH the best actors who have portrayed Batman on film.
@darthgoku135 Eh, I take back saying Adam West was a bad Batman actor. I think it was more the fault of the producers than himself that the old 1960s Batman TV show and movie was so corny. I'm sure he could've portrayed Batman in a more serious tone as well if he had the opportunity.
2.i always loved classic movies better(Star wars,godfather,indiana jones,alien,etc.)but tim burton's movie are just childish movies with basic plot and so is the acting!
@ssssssssssssssssss50 honestly i head problomes understanding about 2 lines when i first watched dark knight,but it suits batman to be a scary vigilante and to not sound like bruce wayne at all
@SakuraAvalon They can't do that, theres no Heath Ledger, they can't add him again. The Heath Joker remains only in The Dark Knight. In teh dark knight rises there willl be just Bane, the main enemy, no joker .
what about The new Dark knight rising
noothernamestofind 3 minutes ago
Bale is a better Batman. He acts like a drunken idiot that way people dont suspect him as Batman. His helmet has a voice changer that makes his voice that way. You could see his character's pain in the Dark Knight, the joker made him question his perception of right and wrong. Also, Bale's Batman is more intimating. TDKs better because Nolan actually took aspects from the comics his movie was true to the lore. He used deep subtext in TDK. Batman was a movie that had no pyschological aspect.
HillariousVideo360 1 day ago
@HillariousVideo360 I have to agree with you. Keaton's Batman seemed like a rich guy dressing up to be Batman. Bale's character seemed just as disturbed as the joker, but in a different way, making his transformation more believable.
Mimasfriend 1 day ago
@SaintsBro217 I was just trolling for the fun of it. I wasn't being serious. So calm down. But I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.
iantaylor124 2 days ago
FUCK YOU THIS IS FAKE AND GAY
iantaylor124 2 days ago
@iantaylor124 it's fake? HOW?! It's someone doing a video on Batman! You wanna see something fake? Go on Google search and type in "SAW 8" then go on the video response, check it out and You'll know the true definition of "FAKE", also, stop being a fucking douche
SaintsBro217 2 days ago
Says he wouldn't bring Batman Begins into the comparison.
Does it anyway.
whotookCheesusChrist 4 days ago
You're analize is good and the good Batman movie would have been : Keaton as Batman vs. Ledger as Joker... but these 2 movies (Batman 1989 and Dark Night) are so diferent periods so it's hard to compare... personally I,like both as the way they are : classics of their own age
cherryblossompath 5 days ago
He does that to disguise his voice, why is it so hard for people to understand that?
TheNOTchosen1 5 days ago
I don't know about the Bruce Wayne part, but yeah I totally agree with the costume, and what the crap was up with the voice???
with the Joker, no contest. Ledger may he R.I.P =(
blue3616 5 days ago
"Goodnight Moon, GoOdNIGht MOON, Goodnight Star..." lmao
But I agree with the comment below by biguy617, they were both told from different views by the directors, each with a different but equally satisfying film. They were both the best out of both Batman movies series, too bad the others sucked hard, or weren't as good (ie Batman and Robin) but Batman Returns or whichever had Catwoman and the Penguin out of the older series was acceptable enough to watch again, same for Batman begins I guess
SuperAwesomeChick6 6 days ago
The main differences between Burton and Nolan's views of Batman is one Burton portrayed him as a murderous avenger. Nolan made Batman to be someone who took justice into his own hand but respected the law or he did not kill. 2 Burton gave Batman a car that was drivable. Nolan gave him a car that looked like a tank and can't turn at all. 3 Burton's Bruce Wayne is an eccentric nerd that is good with the ladies. Nolan's Bruce is a playboy. Nolan is more closer to the real batman minus the car.
biguy617 6 days ago
Heath Ledger was good as the Joker but I hated the re-design :/
AllybertToth 6 days ago
leger is the best joker....bale is the best batman...thats my opinion
slipknotdudu 1 week ago
am i the only one who likes the new batman voice?
MrGuitarguy23 1 week ago
@MrGuitarguy23 i like the voice
chickachickaboomguy 5 days ago
i like the 60s movie more
theautobotjedi 1 week ago
i think Christian Bale did a more intimidating batman, the other guy was kinda meh to me.
mechking4511 1 week ago
LOL your reading of Goodnight Moon was better than Christopher Walken's
ShadowCrowX 1 week ago 7
Howard Wolowitz was the best Batman
ShadowCrowX 1 week ago
The Dark Knight Rises wil be better than any other Batman movie.
TheRiddler26 1 week ago
i like mark hamils joker the most,
he was crazy yet funny
he was scary yet a ton of fun to watch.
PianoSaraTimBurton 2 weeks ago 2
I'm a man of my wuuuuuuurd
Sonic62920 2 weeks ago
Arkham City is the best piece of Batman media ever. As for Batman's hoarse voice in The Dark Knight, it's not like Bruce Wayne is talking like that non-stop. It's the Batsuit. It has microphones in it that alter Wayne's voice. Sort of ties in with the "hi-tech Batsuit" thing going on in the Dark Knight.
TheVisibleWind 2 weeks ago
@TheVisibleWind You mean Arkham Asylum is, Arkham City is just trash in comparison. Overrated and overhyped
corvettecrazy262 6 days ago
@corvettecrazy262 Yeah, that's what I meant
TheVisibleWind 6 days ago
well.. you are stupid man.. :S
Your critics always is stupid.
Rockjael2 2 weeks ago
@Rockjael2 You are stupid man? Your critics always is stupid? Learn how to right a sentence before you call someone else stupid.
TheVehicleDESTROYAH 1 week ago
If Batman is his favourite: That makes sense. But I think The Dark Knight is definitely a better made movie.
VenomShock 2 weeks ago
Dar KNight Joker fo sure.
MademoiselleAnna 3 weeks ago
The only thing i hate bout the old batman is harvey dent
Virradarkness 3 weeks ago
If Michael Keaton is the best Batman and Heath Ledger is the best Joker, what would happen if:
Keaton VS Ledger
Bale VS Nicholson
TheHorrorKing1 3 weeks ago
@TheHorrorKing1 That would be cool.
TheTrueSaberMaster 3 weeks ago
@TheHorrorKing1 that would be freakin sweet!
PianoSaraTimBurton 2 weeks ago
Christian Bale is great in movies like American Psycho and Harsh times but i found him boring as Batman.
Michael Keaton is witty and charismatic and is my favourite Batman.
spiderjerusalem100 3 weeks ago
@spiderjerusalem100
How? Are we watching the same movies? Keaton looks bland and 1D the whole 89 film. His wacky hair style makes him look even more ridiculous. He shows no pain from his parents death and he shows no emotion whatsoever. Bale? As the playboy he makes a lot of great jokes. Bale manages to portray the playboy Bruce, serious Batmanlike Bruce, and Batman effectively. Its believable that Bales not Batman, he acts like a dick so well. Bale is best, Keaton blows
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
"Which one is the true prince of crime? Nicholson or Ledger?" Neither, it's frickin' Mark Hamill! XD
NodDisciple1 3 weeks ago
While I think Ledger gave the better performance, I think Nicholson's was the better Joker.
With Nicholson there was the classic Joker, a psychopath who would do horrible things while stilll having a twisted sense of humor, and even getting a kick out of it (the electrocuting handbuzzer).
Ledger's Joker wasn't really written as the Joker, more of just a simple psychopath who just wanted to burn the world. Scary, yes, but not really the Joker, I don't think.
FlyingFocs 3 weeks ago
@FlyingFocs
I think Nicholson trys too hard. The fact that the Joker killed Bruces parents in the original kills that whole movie for me
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
@yamisupersaiyan Good point.
Actually, if anyone asked me what I thought the best Joker was, I would say Mark Hamill, particularly after Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. To which all my friends would probably say, "Who is Mark Hamill?" -_-
FlyingFocs 3 weeks ago
@FlyingFocs
Mark Hamill is a legend as the joker....but he shouldn't be categorized with the physical appearances of Batman. Don't get me wrong he's excellent, but he does a voice not the acting which is difficult im not saying its not, but not as difficult.
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
@yamisupersaiyan Again, good point. Out of curiousity, what would you say if someone said that the best Joker was Cesar Romero's?
FlyingFocs 3 weeks ago
@FlyingFocs I haven't seen much at all of that TV series. Its interesting...but its too campy and I don't blame him for it, that was the tone of the series itself
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
@yamisupersaiyan Me neither. I was just asking.
FlyingFocs 3 weeks ago
@yamisupersaiyan @FlyingFocs Have you guys heard John Di Maggio's joke from Under the red hood? If you ask me he was the best, although i will say that 1 performance alone doesn't make you "the best" he was a perfect mix between Ledgers darker joker and Hamill's hysteric joker
MARTlANxMADNESS 3 weeks ago
@MARTlANxMADNESS
I loved the story of Red Hood....but I found the animation hard to get into. I think we have to give it time, as you said. Red Hood focused more on that Robin/Batman bond despite having Joker in it so it'll be interesting to see a movie where Jokers more of a focus
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
Though I think that Nicholson's Joker was better... I do believe that Ledger's Joker was more "credible".
I could see someone like that (a suicidal madman who gets his jollies by killing people) in real life as opposed to a mob kingpin who commits major crimes while dressed like a clown.
misterprickly 3 weeks ago in playlist Nostalgia Critic Reviews
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"goodnight moon.....goodnight MOOONN!!! goodnight STAAARRRR!!! 4:00
trainguy13 1 month ago
I prefer the old Batman. The super campy Adam West Batman from the 60's.
akshizzy77 1 month ago
not that voice is not fun IT IS ANNOYING
Alexiosbutcher 1 month ago in playlist Nostalgia Critic Reviews
Ledgers Joker was scary and had some VERY funny moments. (Why so serious!?!?!) Bales Batman is the best ass kicker and he did an amazing job as Bruce. The voice didn't bother me all that much. Bruce Wayne is supposed to be an arrogant playboy so no one would suspect him. Keaton just looked weird and suspicious.
Sasuke1547 1 month ago
Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill all the way!
WelcomeGhostsIV 1 month ago 28
For the Joker, the old is just good at laughing and just the classic and thats it, the new really brings out psychopath to a whole new level.
Rack44hoonmaster 1 month ago
In my opinion, the old is better in style and voice, but the new is better equipped with tools, weapons, and a fucking tank for a car. However, I agree that the old still comes out on top.
Rack44hoonmaster 1 month ago
@Rack44hoonmaster
No way in hell, the old one is boring as hell and Burton admitted to never even reading the comics. New ones definitely better
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
Joker is a lame character in my opinion, but it's Joker, i think the 89 version of Batman have the better Joker because he actually have better and funnier jokes.
Dark Knight Joker wasn't that bad, but look lame and not even funny.
AsurasWrath 1 month ago
@AsurasWrath
Not funny? When Gambols like you think you can steal from us and walk away, joker mumbling yeah was hilarious. In that same scene, Joker goes if we don't do anything gambol won't have a nickel for his grandma. He also says what happen? did your balls drop? Thats three jokes IN ONE SCENE. He pwns and is way better
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
The best Joker is a tie between Hamill and Ledger
StupidWizardFilms 1 month ago
Batman 1989: did it even show or tell you about Batman's origin at all? did it show or tell you how he lerned all the martial arts that he does? NO!
Batman Begins: Batman's origin was told in all depths of the character, showed you how he trained for 7-8 years in martial arts and trained to put the fear of God in the hearts of criminals, and disguised his voice so people he loved/talked to wouldn't know it was him.
marvelgeek24 1 month ago in playlist Nostalgia Critic Reviews
Batman 1989: Joker's plan: Kiddnap Batmans girlfriend becuse Joker loves her/
The Dark Knight: Jokers plan: bring Batman and Gotham to its knees.
Who was the better Joker... THE DARK KNIGHT'S Joker!
marvelgeek24 1 month ago in playlist Nostalgia Critic Reviews
I do like both but at least bale could turn his neck
MrSherlockWatson 1 month ago
ledger's joker sucks. and for the most part it's not his fault. it's nolan's. he made the joker what he is in the dark knight. ledger did a great job with the acting but that didn't help how underdeveloped and boring the character is. nicholson is the better joker by any means. he just feels like the goddamn joker. funny but also very psychotic. ledger just seemed to me like a serial killer in make up. people should make more fun of ledger's voice as joker rather that bale's as batman ..........
david2000magic 1 month ago
@david2000magic his voice was so monotone and just didn't seem like the joker. bottom line jack nicholson is the face of the joker. but the voice of the joker is motherfucking mARK HAMill
david2000magic 1 month ago
@david2000magic
Nicholson tries too hard. He sucks, and the fact that we find out who he has is fucking retarded. Ledger is amazing. You're too obsessed with nostalgia. Anyone whos actually a fan of those shitty old movies are nostalgia freaks. Joker IS SUPPOSED TO BE SECRETIVE. Hello!! thats the whole appeal of the character. Why does he fuck with things? Because its fun. Thats the joker. Ledger isn't just psychotic, he's confident and brilliant in a way. Thats gone in the old
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
@yamisupersaiyan Nostalgia? Really? That's all you got to say about it? Nostalgia? I don't know about you but I was born in the year 2000. I saw The Dark Knight before i saw Batman 1989 and I can say that the 1989 version is better in every singe aspect. Maybe the action scenes and special effects in The Dark Knight were better but that's about it. I didn't even get the story in The Dark Knight. I tried to watch it serveral times. Notice how I said "tried" to watch it.
david2000magic 3 weeks ago
@david2000magic
Well thats why, you're like 11. Batmans a complex story bro, contrary to popular belief. 1989 fails in so many ways. Joker kills Bruces parents, characters like Gordon and Dent are briefly looked at. The only thing I LIKED about that movie was the atmosphere. Every else sucked, in comparison to the comics. As a film its ok. But opinion or not, the movie is not how the comics are....making it flawed.
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
@yamisupersaiyan Nostalgia critic's video has it all. Idon't give a shit about the comics. I only want an entertaining movie. the dark knight wasn't very entertaining to me. maybe i will like it when i get to my older years to apriciate it more but for now the dark knight S . U . C . K . S.
david2000magic 3 weeks ago
@david2000magic
*sigh* you don't give a shit about comics? First YOU'RE 11, don't curse man its not cool. Second, I really hope you're not representative of our next generation. Batman is a symbol in a lot of peoples hearts. He provides confidence and is a hero to many. Don't disrespect that. Its his humanity and struggles that make him so compelling. All of that is absent in 89. Fine, go ahead and worship that fail of an adaption. How pathetic
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JayJD585 3 weeks ago
@yamisupersaiyan They are both excellent films. Dark Knight delves more into the darker side of the Batman medium, while Batman 89' is an action packed classic that set the standard for a Batman film. if we have something to rant about, turn our heads toward the campy colourful 60's tv show. that show was terrible, i mean they deputized Batman in that one! he's a creature of the night not a testicle-free moron in bedsheets!
itzjaimetime 3 weeks ago
@david2000magic
TDK succeeded in perfecting the image of everything Batman. How hes received by Gothams people, how hes received by Gordon, by joker. Nolan managed to show how literally every person views Batman. He was able to come up with a plot that utilizes all these important characters from the comics. He effectively showed how Batman uses the darkness, and pain from his parents death. These are all there in TDK, but not really in the 89
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
I agree with about everything he said about Bale's performance being more... Emotive than Keaton's, but I think that that was intentional: I think Nolan's point (Particularly in Batman Begins) was to show how that raw emotion transformed him. And as far as The Dark Knight- Well, given the loss he suffered at the end, I'm wondering if we might not see a much darker, less emotive Bruce Wayne/Batman in The Dark Knight Rises.
RedHeadedBishiesROCK 1 month ago
I respect the 89 Batman for starting darker superhero movies, but TDK is far superior. I like Bale better than Keaton because he really seems to capture the duality of the character. Also my problem with Keaton was that he wasn't stealthy enough or intimidating enough. He seemed like the guy wearing a rubber costume while Bale felt like the real Batman. Jack Nicholson is nowhere near Ledger, Hamill is serious competition, but Nicholson is not even close imo. Excited for TDKR
Whedonesque74 1 month ago
Heath Ledger is the best live joker. Hamill is the best animated cartoon Joker
Yin157 1 month ago
Bale is the best bruce wayne not batman
SunnyKaramchandani 1 month ago
@SunnyKaramchandani
Nah hes better as both
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
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thatoneguy855 1 month ago
Hamill > Nicholson > Ledger > Romero
mrserjmalakian 1 month ago
Best Jokers (my opinion): 1. Mark Hamill 2. Heath Ledger 3. Jack Nicholson
HardikG121 1 month ago
@roland96able hell yea he did, i go with Ledger anyday, the "magic penn trick" was the best ever :D
swemanD47 1 month ago
@swemanD47 the pencil trick was great. but the hand buzzer scene was better. then when he starts talking to the charred corpse afterwards? truly psychotic.
oldirrtydoogz 1 month ago
@roland96able A great job? Are you even listening!? He doesn't look like he does in the comics, he doesn't have the same weapons he has in the comics, AND he never calls Batman "Batboob" like he does in the comics! I waited to hear him say that from beginning to end, and all I got were those stupid stories about his stupid scars!
hehall1680 1 month ago
I don't get why every one like the new Joker. Sure he is threatening but he does not follow the part. The Joker is supposed to be a crazy man who was neat but still cruel. He just looks like a kid who put grandma's make up on wrong. The joker is supposed to have nice short combed back hair. A purple suit and a flower in the pocket the squirts acid. I think that Heath Ledger did a horrible job as the joker.
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wd1250 1 month ago
as a kid i LOVED THE 1st batman movie from '89, the Dark knight movie brought i think a bit more enjoyable and darker bits to it but still: KEATON REMAINS THE KING DAMMIT!
FishlipsMalone 1 month ago
I think there isn't a real way to compare the Jokers, because they took such a different approach at the character. If you wanted the comic book Joker, Nicholson. If you wanted a chilling, chaos-loving psychopath, go with Ledger.
NearSupporter11226 1 month ago
Heath Ledger is more like the no. 2 best joker, the no. 1 joker is Mark Hamill.
godzilla964 1 month ago
@godzilla964 yeah but as live Joker it has to be Heath but as genral yeah ots Mark Hamil
3271westy 1 month ago
When ledger won for the jocker, I was thinking that Jack woud go "I'm glad your dead."
myKyuubischild 1 month ago
am i the only one who thinks that batman shudnt smile?
namreg944 1 month ago
Personally I like the Jack Nicholson joker because he is the Joker everyone knew from the comics both funny and maniacal at the same time while Heath Ledger doesn't make any jokes just psychopathic like Mark Hamill he was insane, funny and an amazing Joker just like Jack Nicholson and Bob Kane wanted Jack to play the role. Don't get me wrong Heath Ledger was pretty good but still Nicholson is my favorite Joker.
85turtle 1 month ago
The better Batman overall IMO was Keaton's i grew up on the Bale's Batman and i like it,but i laugh when he makes that voice if he really sounded like that it would for me what and what between the two.The story in the original Batman seemed better even though i haven't watched all of it yet,but i still think the better movie(besides the story)i think it was great.And Heath's Joker just made my day just epic.But Jack's Joker was great too both great in they're own way.
Thekingpac2014 1 month ago
he should've compared joker's laugh too
SmashLiXs 1 month ago
Keaton's batman was darker, mysterious and didn't have to change his voice he naturally had that rough tone to him, although i did enjoy bale's batman develop with his gadgets (keaton's batmobile still rocks)
Eskimop16 2 months ago
I think CB was a better Wayne but as Batman?No.
carlogarcia7 2 months ago 29
@carlogarcia7
Batman kills in Returns. No CB owns as Batman as well
yamisupersaiyan 3 weeks ago
@carlogarcia7 HEY!
CB was a better Batman!
HE HAS TO HIDE HIS VOICE!
nightbane2 3 weeks ago
I don't know if it was the post production or bale himself, but the voice was a lot better and not as forced in Batman Begins than Dark Knight.
Shin27ecstasy 2 months ago
Batman 1989 for me because it is more weird and comic like
CYBERDOODY 2 months ago
The lipsmacking killed it for me with Ledger. I know he has nothing holding his mouth together, but still.
Kingofcorrect 2 months ago
I always found the best Batman to be Kevin Conroy, since the cartoon is the only time Bruce's voice comes out of BAtman
Kingofcorrect 2 months ago
Can anyone answer me this Question
If Characters we hardly know anything about are so interesting.
How come characters that don't have or reveal their motive to something are boring and stupid?
xaxie1 2 months ago
Hellooo I'm SuperFlameRing. I watch Nostalgia Critic so I don't have to think about my homework.
SuperFlameRing 2 months ago
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Im just gonna say it: The Dark Knight is the better movie. Let the hate comments begin.
DirectoRap 2 months ago
i'd say bale is the better batman because he got how bruce wayne and batman were suppose to be played. keaton was good but his wayne seemed more like a lost little kid. bale's wayne was a vapid playboy, which is how he's suppose to be. bruce is the mask over his batman, played up so that no one would even entertain the thought of bruce being batman.
maxacorn 2 months ago
Overall Keaton is the better Batman
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@NewGenesisMusic I've saved JUST that part.
Halo44327 1 month ago
The original Batman movie is laughable in terms of its badness. Both as a film and as a Batman story.
Cool theme though.
NiHuWi 2 months ago
Over all? I have to give credit where credit is due. I have to say the things that got Batman right were The Dark Knight and The Batman Arkham series. The Dark Knight got the Joker and the dilema's of being a superhero. Plus the action and the actors did a great job. But the Arkham series in the video games, I feel they combined all things in the Batman universe. The captured the Natural Batman feel in Tim's movies, the silliness of the Shumacher movies, the voice actors from AS, and scary Joker
joshboy64 2 months ago
old batman with new joker for the best but will never be made batman movie ever
aabbklll101 2 months ago
A famous billionaire would have to hide his voice. Its as much protection as his mask, considering we now have internet, tv, radio...if he did not hide his voice everyone would know who he is.
infestedbigmac 2 months ago
@infestedbigmac To be fair, Batman makes sure not to be seen on camera or recorded.
Igarappappa 2 months ago
@Igarappappa yes but Bruce Wayne is likely to be on camera . So when hes kicking some thugs ass..and they recognize his voice , yea that wud suck
infestedbigmac 2 months ago
@infestedbigmac Maybe. But I think the fear and or beating would effect their memory.
Igarappappa 2 months ago
@Igarappappa lol ..maybe
infestedbigmac 2 months ago
@Igarappappa
Unless Joel Schumacher is directing.
Charmolution 2 months ago
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Bale sounds like someone with asthma trying to take in a deep breath. LOL I've always liked Keaton as Batman with Val Kilmer second.
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KitsuneAdorable 2 months ago
It's funny how drastic the voice change for Batman Begins is from The Dark Knight.
I found the one in Begins suitable. It was much lighter but enough of a cover. Dark Knight was just hard to take in with that voice.
vendetta89 2 months ago
Keaton wins as Batman, but Ledger OWNS as the Joker.
123Arkham 2 months ago
EVERY one has made fun of this voice?? Well I must not be 'everybody' (I try not to conFORM like some of you, I"m my OWN man) ppl who don't GET the voice have lived in a fantasy Netflix/blockbuster world waaaaayy too long and can not imagine being in a world a NOLAN REALISTIC world where ppl here 'Batman' They think terror, urban legend and MYTH. WHen you guys here the name you think COMICbooks, toys and goofy actors (Clooney, West, Kilmer@TIMES). IN a REAL world that voice would crap your pants
CubbieBear1980 2 months ago
@CubbieBear1980 Keaton's voice would make me crap my pants too. He also has the advantage of looking like Batman, not just like a guy dressed up as Batman.
Moosh50 2 months ago
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CubbieBear1980 2 months ago
@cryssibaby
Same to me
MegaGoodoldtimes 2 months ago
The Joker was better in the Dark Knight, but I really didn't like the movie.
cryssibaby 2 months ago
i never saw the dark knight but his voice sounds auful and ridiculous
MrDestroy458 2 months ago
while Bale's batman voice is rather silly, it does get it's job done. I mean, wouldnt YOU be scared if someone yelled like that at you right in your face?
xStrykerJ 3 months ago
i'm actually gaining a new found respect for keatons performance. i still dont see the problem with bales bat-suit though.
JKreviews 3 months ago
gotta be honest i prefer the dark knight.
punkrocker867 3 months ago
The Keaton Batman had the better voice, but he looked too short. Now where Keaton reigns supreme is those tight blue jeans and black turtle neck (the scene where Baysinger discovers Bruce is Batman). He pulls that look. Bottom line, they are both some of the best comic book movies ever made.
beeeefcurtains 3 months ago
I like Bale better but I think he talks like that so no one can recognize his voice
fishhand360 3 months ago
JESUS... FUCK... 5:45. I just can't get it over with...
TomX356 3 months ago
5:45 SCARIEST SCENE EVER!
TomX356 3 months ago
Uh....uh....uh....I...cant...CHOOSE! Both movies are amazing, but both do things that bother me. It's hard to compare them because they are so similar, yet so completely different. I think its a tie. They are both just incredible films.
xFIRERUSHx 3 months ago
The Dark Knight is not a remake!!!!!!
hrcr101 3 months ago
who else was laughing when the dark night batman would talk
mrwhippy101 3 months ago
Wait a minute, Nolan topped 3 total villains of past Batman movies.
1. Joker
2. Two Face
3. Bane
Rantincorporated 3 months ago
Micheal Keaton was the best Batman ever. I like Christian Bale as well, but he tries too hard.
stlouisrocker100 3 months ago
i prefer michael keaton as batman (lol christian's voice in tdk makes me laugh so hard) but heath ledger as the joker, definitely.
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Kbillyssupersounds87 3 months ago
rip joker
killroyify 3 months ago
lol sorry but Christian Bale is just soo superior to Michael Keaton. He changes his voice hardcore so that no one recognizes him nor would even think of making a comparison Keaton at times you can hear his voice break. Michael Keaton was great as Batman and was the best of the last franchise but Bale is just better
mgk22 3 months ago
@mgk22 so just cause he changes his voice he;s better? HELL NO, bale's voice is just ridiculus, he tries to hard to be threatining and keaton naturally is, im sorry but keaton is so much better then bale
COGOFWAR117 3 months ago 31
@COGOFWAR117 no its the fact that he hides his voice that makes him better at the very least, no one will suspect hes Batman at all and frankly in my opinion he sounds better as Batman he blows Keaton out of the water. Keaton most of the time had a good voice but it broke at times and it just didnt sound as meanacing in Returns but Bale keeps it consistent atleast. I grew up with Keaton so im making the comparison I see
mgk22 3 months ago
@mgk22 Bale could change his voice without being so over-the-top, which he was. A LOT.
Which it wasn't threatening as much it was annoying
tricksterhuaun 2 months ago
@tricksterhuaun yeah but using that voice when hes hanging you over a an edge like flass or maroni I some how doubt your really gonna be thinking its over the top and even if you do he still means it. When I first heard his voice I found him to be threatening and scary something that Keatons batman(as much as I loved it) never made me feel. To me it shows hes human, hes trying to conceal his identity and he mentally gets lost in it which adds to it more. Nolan knew what he was directing n bale
mgk22 2 months ago
@COGOFWAR117 lol, who finds Keaton threatening?
shadow1dx 2 months ago
@COGOFWAR117 Keaton is about as threatening as a 12 year old in a Batman costume from a dollar store.
NiHuWi 2 months ago
@NiHuWi and bale is about as threating as a 10 year old on xbox pretending to have a deep voice so he's intimidating
COGOFWAR117 2 months ago
@COGOFWAR117
Except for this is a 10 year old is physically imposing and makes me believe that he could actually physically harm me and isn't shorter than the female leading role.
And he's not wearing a goofy rubber suit.
NiHuWi 2 months ago
@qwuezalothus
I actually meant, Michael Keaton as Batman and Heath Leger as the Joker, but Beetlejuice and the Joker would be awesome too
MegaGoodoldtimes 3 months ago
They should had Michael Keaton and Heath Ledger in one movie
MegaGoodoldtimes 3 months ago
@MegaGoodoldtimes
You mean like that fanart where Beetlejuice and the Joker are looking at each other?
qwuezalothus 3 months ago
@qwuezalothus Beetlejuice: Hey!
Joker: ...
Beetlejuice: Why so serious?
MrImastinker 3 months ago
one day a movie adaption of Batman will come out that is actually faithful to the comics!!!!!
oh yes!!!! one day!!!! it will happen!!!!!
it didn't happen yet!!!!! but it will happen!!!!
myconius 3 months ago
crap i accidently clicked the dislike button when trying to click the like button! why is there even a dislike button on a nostalgia critic review
VideoMasher3000 3 months ago
Yeah Bale's voice would have annoyed me if I actually saw the movie.
huslerk 3 months ago
I like both but I go with The Dark Knight overall and Joker was so bad ass in the new one
fishhand360 3 months ago 40
@fishhand360 i agree with you with the joker part but batman was uh... HORRIBLY BASED AKA. IT SUCKS lol
Sheepman550 3 months ago
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How is Keaton a better Batman? Keaton as Batman walks around on the streets, uses ladders, stairs, and holds his cap out like Dracula. That's not Batman. He's not as intimidating as Bale's Batman. Bale's Batman is more allusive and stealthy, which allows him to better ambush or frighten his enemies. Keaton's not so much. Bale, as Bruce Wayne, wanted to instill fear into his enemies. The voice is just an extension of his intimidation. His voice was even modulated to get that effect.
MrImastinker 3 months ago 5
Christian Bale sucked BAAALLLLSSSS!!!! Worst Batman ever!
Starkiller011 3 months ago
@Starkiller011 Oh, and I suppose you think Adam West, Val Kilmer, and George Clooney were better. To me, Michael Keaton and Christian Bale are BOTH the best actors who have portrayed Batman on film.
darthgoku135 3 months ago
@darthgoku135 Eh, I take back saying Adam West was a bad Batman actor. I think it was more the fault of the producers than himself that the old 1960s Batman TV show and movie was so corny. I'm sure he could've portrayed Batman in a more serious tone as well if he had the opportunity.
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@Starkiller011 u crazy?or stupid?or both?
ssssssssssssssssss50 3 months ago
@ssssssssssssssssss50 I guess a kid needs modern shit to like something.
Starkiller011 3 months ago
@Starkiller011 micheal keaton couldnt act like bale even if he lifes depend son it.bale was menacing as batman,keaton was like a,well pedestrian
ssssssssssssssssss50 3 months ago
@Starkiller011 1.im not a kid
2.i always loved classic movies better(Star wars,godfather,indiana jones,alien,etc.)but tim burton's movie are just childish movies with basic plot and so is the acting!
ssssssssssssssssss50 3 months ago
@ssssssssssssssssss50 I understand, but I seriously can't take that hoarse voice when he speaks. It irritates me...
Starkiller011 3 months ago
@ssssssssssssssssss50 honestly i head problomes understanding about 2 lines when i first watched dark knight,but it suits batman to be a scary vigilante and to not sound like bruce wayne at all
ssssssssssssssssss50 3 months ago
I heard Nolan actually digitally enhanced Bale's voice in the dark knight which is believable when you watch Batman Begins and he talks normaly..
justbrandon666 4 months ago
4:21 Heath Joker is alive, Jack Jocker is dead. Heath Ledger, young and dead, Jack Nicholson, old and live alive. What irony (U.U)
siralucard19 4 months ago
@siralucard19 Well, no. They're killing off Heath Ledger's Joker in the coming Batman movie.
SakuraAvalon 4 months ago
@SakuraAvalon They can't do that, theres no Heath Ledger, they can't add him again. The Heath Joker remains only in The Dark Knight. In teh dark knight rises there willl be just Bane, the main enemy, no joker .
siralucard19 4 months ago
@siralucard19 Um, yes they can. They discussed using a computer program to edit parts of him to put him into the movie so they could kill him off.
SakuraAvalon 3 months ago
3:02 throat cancer
siralucard19 4 months ago