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  • Excuse me. I Actually have this guitar and play in drop E What Strings do you suggest I buy??

    Thank you in Advance for the advice!

  • oh and i have the line 6 hd pod 500, how do you suggest i achieve a good meshuggahy djent tone?

  • @CrispinDan  ive never messed around with any of the pods, my spiders the only line 6 piece of equipment ive ever used. As far as strings, i use a 74 gauge set.

  • not in tune there....

  • too much fizzy dist.

  • damn power chords sound fucking INSANE out of that thing.

  • Couldn't of asked for a better guide! However 2 things man, A.) Whats the clean like on the guitar? and B.) How is access to the upper frets? Obviously the guitar has 24 frets, but can you reach them all on the top strings? Cheers! x

  • @TheSybredMachineHead thanx! clean sounds great just like any other schecter, and the upper frets are very easy to get to

  • @hard8band Ahh wicked man, you've officially persuaded me to buy this guitar! Thanks for the help!

  • i dont get whats up with the pick ups can you explain them to me

  • @buttsniffjackwagon1 Their just regular pick ups nothin special

  • @hard8band thank you \m/

  • U guys sound like an 8 string version of dope

  • @avengedrocker45 Nice! Havent heard that before, good band

  • Hey man, your video convinced me to take the leap and buy the Damien Elite 8 but I disagree with you on the floppiness of the F# string. What gauge strings do you use? Did you have yours set or was it tight straight out of the factory? I've got the default strings and I'm not so happy about them...

  • @ganza222 hmmm i wonder why its so floppy for you? My other guitarist has the black elite 8 string and it plays just like mine. We use the S.I.T. brand strings and they are 74 gauge.

  • How does it sound in a drop tuning?

  • @StarFaukes The standard tuning is about all you can do, if you drop the F, it's too wobbly. You can drop the B to an A ok but thats about it. The neck isn't long enough to drop the low F any further.

  • @StarFaukes

    Okay first of all dude, you tune that thing any lower and it practically becomes a bass.

    Fuck, it already practically is with the F# string.

  • What tuning are you in? Standard 8 string tuning?

  • @downwiththeswineflu yep standard 8 string tuning

  • That low end sounds very clear. Great riffs man!

  • @Giftedlion thanx bro!

  • Hey dude unfortunately where I live theres no 8-strings to be seen. Is there much difference between this guitar and the Omen 8? Or if anyone out there knows, is there much difference? Youre tunes are AWESOME btw man!!

  • @davo664 Damien has much better parts, Mahogony body with a maple veneer instead of basswood, grover tuners 18:1 ratio over 15:1 schecter tuners and EMG 808 pickups not schecter diamonds. hope that helps. you pay £249 more for £400 more guitar (based on £350 omen 8 to a £599 damien elite 8)

  • @LessThanJayms Thanks man big help :)

  • @davo664 thanx man! i haven't played the omen but i have friends that have and they all say to stay away from it.

  • @davo664

    Difference between the Omen 8 and the Damien Elite 8 is that Omen is basswood, and Damien Elite is mahogany.

    Omen 8 has no EMGs, and the Damien Elite 8 has EMG 808's.

    Personally, you can't go wrong with either guitar, because you'll still be spending the same amount of money for the guitar if you replace the PU's in the Omen 8. Basswood isn't a bad tone wood to be honest, lots of Ibanez's use it, and sound nice.

    However, you might want the Damien Elite instead, since it's pretty.

  • What's the song you play on YouTube?

    I know it's your band but what song? (link?) :)

  • @Tombkingretr0 The song is called "The Mark" from my band Hard Eight, it's on the album called "the mark". You can find it on iTunes and cdbaby(dot)com. glad yo like it ;)

  • @Tombkingretr0 i posted a link below the video

  • @Tombkingretr0 Track is called "The mark" get it at *read description*

  • give me the damn mp3 :D

  • @slymoOnlight iTunes brotha, support the cause!! Hahaha

  • @hard8band Brotha Itunes are doging me country out :/

  • @slymoOnlight whats ur email

  • nice song ;) love the rhythm. Though a little bit of LB but still ^_^

  • Is the schecter damien elite 8 or the ibanez rga8 better? Opinions anyone? I'm trying to decide which to buy.

  • @clanbigger4 I say schecter, schecter has EMG 808 active pickups and Ibanez has just some random humbucker pickups, sound is very different, schecter is more brutal i say. :D I know that the pickups aren't the only thing what makes guitar better but it's very big thing in sound world !

  • @TheNeedled The RG228 jas EMG's.

  • @blahblahoww123 Yes that's better than both of those BUT he said wich he buy, schecter damien elite 8 or ibanez rga8.

  • a little deftone influence at 3:56?

  • @A7Xsyngatescustom1 Turn down the bass on your amp, turn the midrange and treble up.

  • the track that you played on was awesome man grt track with a kick ass guitar...

  • @japhethebe oh thanks a lot, really appreciate it ;)

  • lol active and "unactive"

  • @MrYungsan ahhahahaa did i say that!!!

  • @hard8band lol yeah.

  • @A7Xsyngatescustom1 really depends on the amp u use. even 7 strings sound muddy on certain amps

  • @A7Xsyngatescustom1 they never sounded muddy to me?

  • I'm getting an 8 string soon.

    Wtf is the difference between the Schecter

    Hellraiser-8

    Damien-8

    Blackjack-8

    ?

  • @DistortedBrain To be honest i dont know all the differences between the 3. As far as i know they're all almost identical except for the damien being a bolt on neck and the hellraiser being a set neck. Not sure what neck the blackjack has. They all have the same pickups, hardware, and are made from the same woods.

  • @hard8band hmm thanks! set neck is definetly better

  • Bally's (not my choice). gotta go to a work conference and they chose there. I work with a bunch of old farts, so I was looking for something fun to do after the conf. ends. Hey bro, about the guitar line...you guys need help? I can come up with some crazy graphics and help promote the shit out of you guys here in TX. let me know...musicians for musicians (I love win/win situations).

  • @slitherlock Bally's isn't that bad, a little old but in a good location. Dude i'll definitely hit you up about some graphic stuff soon as i get things rolling again. Do you have a website, id like to check your stuff out!

  • Korn this Korn that....fuck em all bro...keep doing your thing as your guitar playing is mad sic. Where do you guys play in Vegas?...gonna be out that way in a couple weeks. Also...I was wondering about the chainsaw guitar...is that a decal or custom paint?...and if I may be so bold...how much did it cost?? later bro...God bless and keep pushing the limits of that fucking guitar.

  • @slitherlock hahaha your awesome bro!!! Last few shows we did were at house of blues & hard rock, unfortunately we don't have anything coming up at the moment. No it's a legit straight from schecter chainsaw guitar, it was a limited edition they did a few years back, 100% factory paint job and inlays. was only $699 if i remember right which isn't bad for an axe like that. Where u staying in vegas??

  • I get the feeling I am about to be steamrolled for asking this...but, without being total trolls guys, I am after an 8 string and have no music shops remotely nearby that'd have this stuff in stock. So...

    Schecter Damien Elite 8 string, or Ibanez RGA8. Explain why. Go.

  • @443556inflames Oh, and assume both have been replaced with new strings and SD Blackouts. I am looking for fundamental differences on the guitars :)

  • man i like your band ! are you the singer? it's amazing it reminds me of something like korn just better

  • @DaGagamel thank you so much my friend, means a lot!! Yep i'm the singer..... guitarist, bassist and drummer hahaha

  • @hard8band

    that's very cool and what are the other members doing?:D i checked out your myspace page. like the songs

  • @DaGagamel My other members are just lazy musicians haha! It's actually really aggravating, my drummer lives 5 minutes away and refuses to come over into the studio and record?? I've been thrown in the trent reznor roll, write everything then teach it to everyone, kinda sux. Isn't it a musicians dream to have a quality recording studio at their disposal? Im glad you like the songs, means a lot ;)

    Are you in a band??

  • @hard8band

    yes I am in a funk Rock, a hardcore band and in a Metalcore band and i write all songs and have to teach it everyone :D i have the same problem like you ^^

  • @DaGagamel damn you stay busy haha

  • @hard8band

    but we have the problem that we are very young and have not enough money to record our songs we had luck and did one song in the studio but now..^^ its a pity cause i love it to record our stuff

  • @DaGagamel it's addicting to record, its like a 2nd home for sure

  • what strings you using man i just sold my rga8 to one of these pups :P

  • @EMusyk ahhh they're S.I.T. strings made specifically for the schecter 8's

  • hey. do you think that 6-string and 7-string hellraisers are overpriced too?

  • @eastwoodize definitely!

  • Hey dude, I'm planning on getting this guitar, but one thing i was curious about, did you have to pay extra for that case? or does it come with it?

  • @metallitrooper yeah, the case is an extra $100

  • @hard8band GAH FUCK ME SIDEWAYS! okay... ill save the extra dosh. cheers :)

  • thanks a lot man. im getting 1 of these in about a week. but i must ask, why do u have a line 6 amp on a mesa boogie cab?

  • @punisher1865 cool, you'll have fun playin it! Ahhh im not a fan of tube heads but mesa does make the best cabs. i used to have a dual rec but didn't like the sound

  • What colour is that dude ? Is that grey ? Looks awesome.

    All I can find is the glossy black and I'm not a fan of glossy finishes :(

  • @EpikMCR  it's a gunmetal grey

  • @hard8band

    Looks like I'm going to have to get it shipped. Apparently, England has something against good colours :P

    Thanks for telling me though! I'll be rippin' this beast up come September!

  • hey dude could you do me kinda a huge favor.. and make a video of you playing the same exact song on your agile and on your schecter and do like a tone comparison.. I'm interested in the Agile Intrepid Elite 828 with Duncan Blackouts and my friend is looking at the schecters

  • @motabaco I already did a video a few months back comparing schecter, esp & agile. Its called "8 String Guitar Warz"

  • @hard8band

    how big is the difference in string tension between your schecter and your agile??

    and one last thing.. what kind of strings do you use on the Agile and what guage.. I was considering the 30' model.. but need to know if finding strings long enough to fit is gonna be a pain haha..

    thanks for everything dude.. keep rocking!!!

  • @motabaco Not that big a difference, the agile is a little tighter but not much. I just use the strings rondomusic recommends. They sell them on their site. lemme know if ya need anything else.

  • @motabaco Already did it a year ago, look up "8 string guitar warz"

  • Whats the song you start playing at 4:00? I've seen you play it in more then 1 video but I can never find it.

  • @saleen737 It's called "The Mark", it's off our latest cd of the same name

  • @saleen737 its them own song

  • @MegaSony3  Don't know nada bout the riot guitar ;(

  • 4:00 Guitar handjob

  • @EliteNoodle249  No doubt

  • dude i didnt know J-roc from trailer park boys rips the 8 string????

  • you got it dogg:)))))

  • @PapaGrant1 Hell yeah i got it!!!!!!

  • if someone were to buy the $399 version of that guitar, would it sound nearly as good? and aint the beginning of tht song a deftones song? cuz theres a defotnes song called U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R,A,B Select, Start

  • if someone were to buy the $399 version of that guitar, would it sound nearly as good?

  • @SAREDOG you are referring to the omen 8 im guessing? the damien elite 8 is better. the biggest difference is the pickups. the omen 8 has schecter stock pickups, while the damien elite 8 has EMG 808's.

  • @TheFallOfManbearpig haha, yes i was referring to the omen eight. Thanks for the info!

  • what's the name of the intro song of the video....it's nice!!!!

  • @markdimebag999 Thanx! It's called "The Mark" from my bands new cd, Hard Eight "the mark"

  • Nice review bro. I've been playing a Les Paul for a while and I want to dive into an 8-string. Would you recommend spending some quality time with a 7-sting first or just going straight to the 8?

  • @depto1 Thank you kind sir. Yep def. would get a 7 first.

  • I now have the ultimate 8-string set ready for anyone. Check it out at zacharyguitars Put ZOG on your 8-string or 7-string and your life will change forever. You finally will have a correct string set to use.

  • This or an Ibanez 8 string

  • hey could i get tabs for those songs?

  • @KurtHeyBuddy I totally forgot about that one riff.... badass hahaha. Do you know of any free tab programs for mac?

  • @hard8band tux guitar man! It's great and free!

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  • Just ordered one today! So excited. Love the sound of your band too!

  • @vikingwizardeyes2121 Awe yeah you're gonna stoked as a mugg when that thing arrives!!!!

  • very def toneish from what i hear guitar work is pretty sick im getting one of these guitars now

  • @futureBRETTmachine hellz yeah, old deftones is the joint, i was all about them back in the day, definitely a big influence

  • You know, people kind of put your band down and the music video that you all do, but I gotta say- underneath all the bravad you've got some tasty low ass riffs and I respect you for that man.

  • badass guitar, and badass song!! sounds alot like korn and limp bizkit!! keep rocking out man!!

  • @1alecxg  Thanx bro!

  • dude those songs rock man :D

  • @KickYourAssTomorrow  Thanx a lot ;)

  • hey man whats the song called your playing along to? its brilliant :)

  • @benephilia Wow thanx man!! It's called "The Mark" by my band Hard Eight.  It's the title track off our new cd, it's on iTunes if you are interested in downloading it.

  • @hard8band cheers mate :)

  • I got a question, how low can you tune this guitar before it gets "loose" or "muddy" and what is the actual heaviest guage "guitar string" can you can buy marketed for an 8 string, with out actually using a bass string for the low F?

  • @Standard420247 I think its a 72 gauge my friend. thickest string in a baritone set. also the gauge you need also depends on the scale length of the neck. this guitar can keep the F taught as it has a 261/2 inch scale length. However if you wish to go lower (past D for example(3 half steps lower)) you will need either a longer scale length or a bass string.

  • @Standard420247 F sharp is about the lowest you wanna go on this, you could go down a half step but for me that would make it too loose. It comes with a 74 gauge string, not sure if you can buy a legit guitar string any heavier?

  • @hard8band Thanks for the response, much appreciated!

  • @hard8band shecter 8 Blackjack, Damien or Hellraiser

  • @DjentFoxProductions Off the top of my head Damien, you get a lot for your money

  • I am developing a new correctly optimized string set for 8-string guitar and was wondering if you could help me out with some specifications taken from your Schecter Damien Elite-8 When I am done my new 8-string set it will really improve everything about the guitar. Your tone will be huge and the guitar will no longer struggle. It will work even better and all your tensions will be balanced. You can check out my current string offerings at zacharyguitars go to the STRINGS page

  • can you get a set of 8 strings from regular guitar shops ? please vote so he sees

  • @zZvidsZz Not that i know of, i know guitar center doesn't which i dont understand??

  • @hard8band the guitar seems that good , even if finding strings for it was hard i'd still buy it . haha

  • not a fan of ur band, srry, but you know how to play an 8string better then most, not manny people who play one know how to

  • the fusion of rap music with metal riffffffs is called nu-metal!

  • @edgenchristian I don't really consider us nu-metal though, some songs could def be considered that but we have so many different sounding songs it's real hard to label us. We have some straight emo songs and even electronica tunes too.

  • @marilynmanson986  Yeah i could do that for ya!

  • man, your a great guitarist... but wat kind of metal is that? like, rap-core or somethin? im sorry man, im not into the the rap metal thing... and im 16.

  • @SLIPKNOT8018 Thank you so much dude! Man i really dont know what kind of metal this is.... Id say it's more like the 1st Slipknot cd with the big riffs, catchy singing and little bit of rapping. Mix that with some Linkin Park, Taproot, Atreyu, Blindside, deftones, korn, etc..... who knows LOL

  • Got my SDE8CR just today. Thanks for all your insight. You helped me make the jump from my Ibby 7 string to true depth. Thanx. Dig your jamz too. Hit me up at 7string.org, user name From-7-to-8. Peace.

  • @mrtillman06  Right on man glad i could help!

  • @hard8band sounds a little like a rap-metal version of Sikth :P

  • @hard8band i have just found your page, havent listened to any of your music , but if it is how you describe it, your my fav band, korn?!?! slipknot?!?!? LP?!?! deftones?!!?! atreyu??!?! woop woop

  • Dude I am thinking of buying a Schecter Damien Elite 8!!!I have a query that is the fret scale of 26.5" suitable for my palms???My palm dimensions are as follows:

    From Thumb to little finger:231mm

    From little finger to fore finger:182mm

    little finger:70mm

    ring finger:85mm

    middle finger:91mm

    fore finger:80mm

    Please reply ASAP!!!

  • i have a question , some people said that if you have an 8 string guitar , that the gain on the amp has to be 6 or 7 , and the bass under 8. is it true ?

  • @bjornkipcorn That my friend is false haha. Ive never had to change any settings

  • @bjornkipcorn Although... I've never turned the bass up to 8 before so that does seem pretty high

  • hey if i jumped from an 6 string to an 8 and worked with it for a while do you think i would have any problems

  • @MrConassassin the neck is like holding a brick it takes some getting use to

  • @MrConassassin Idunno, probably. I'd get a 7 first then once you've mastered that get an 8

  • i want this guitar, and the riffs in the middle are sick nice review

  • @MrRichardNoggin Hey thanx ;)

  • what these songs?

  • @metallica556diego Some of em are my bands tunes and some are just riffs i was making up on the spot

  • dude where i can find 8 star guitars ?

  • @MA4VA still dont have the site up but i do have a few prototypes for sale

  • K-8!! need to release some of these schecter guitar CD's up here in NY!

  • @socceresvivo1 Whatchu need dogg!!

  • @hard8band you guys need to tour the north east! In winter time there aint sh!t to do!!

  • @socceresvivo1 Man i would love to, def need to get on a state side tour!

  • @marilynmanson986 Haha yeah!!! Thank man im glad you like it!

  • Hey!!! How did you capture such good sound on this video. I've tried so many techniques, but I can't seem to get a "true" sound of my guitar on my videos. Whatever you did on this video allowed your guitar's true sound to come through. Show me how you captured the sound.

  • @slesperado Wow thanx, i really didn't think the mic picked up the guitar all that great but I guess it did...  I was using a Sony HDR SR-11 camcorder with the built in mic, so nuthin' special was used to get the sound like this.

  • @hard8band What in the world? That was your camera's microphone? I'm using an actual microphone, and your camera's microphone kills mine! Thanks for telling me what you use, though. Great playing style, man. \m/

  • @slesperado Kodak makes a little camcorder the Zi6 or Zi8, it's only $100 and the mic on that thing totally destroys my sony!! No joke, u might wanna invest in one of those, they shoot in full HD

  • @hard8band Oh yeah.  I'll definitely check those out, Man. I'm just not satisfied with the sound quality in my videos at all. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @slesperado Trust me get the Zi6, the mic is the best ive heard on any camera! It's better than some of my $1,000+ cameras mics.

  • yeah, I tried a Schecter Damien Elite 8 a few days ago, kinda like the look of the Blackjack ATX with the flat black colour.. but both play very nicely, and has awesome tone... your music kinda brings me back to the days when nu-metal was THE effing heavy sound to go for :) good old days where there weren't that many generic metal bands.. keep it up dude \m/

  • @gbajien Thanx brotha!! I couldn't agree more, lot's of people prolly think im nuts but that nu-metal shit will always be my favorite. Huge riffs with good singing n screaming and big catchy choruses... yaya! Taproot, Reveille, Ill Nino, old deftones, 40 below summer, coal chamber, dry kill logic... the list goes on hahaha

  • Just subbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • THE MARK is in my playlist allready

  • @MA4VA Whoohoo yaya that's my dogg!! LOL

  • not really my kind of metal.. if thats wat its suppose to be... O.o wat does ur band play.. like, rap-metalcore.. or somethin.. im jw.

  • @SLIPKNOT8018 Man... our style is pretty different. I like that name, rap-metalcore! I don't really rap that much but the songs have that feel to em. I'm influenced by so many styles of music so i like to try and incorporate everything. Some of our favorite bands are Taproot, Blindside, Caliban, Acacia Strain, Skillet, 36 Crazyfists, Slipknot, etc... But yeah, check some of our stuff out on myspace if you want, lemme know whatchu think. Myspace(dotcom)/hard8band

  • @hard8band Could you PLZ demo this guitar with a Peavy amp or a Marshal amp if you have either of them.