That already happened dumbass. Sealand fought off an invasion. It's called fighting back. You get a bunch of SMART bots and have them shoot. Investment alone, and not taxes, would drive the military profits. Inefficiency would be virtually nonexistent.
If you've got a problem with Seasteads, don't live on one.
I thought libertarians believe in free trade and markets. Doesn't that mean trading within the mainland is permitted? This kind of remind me of some off-shore country that the rich goes to do business to avoid being tax.
Is it really that hard to believe? If someone wants to escape the monstrosity that government has become where can they go? You mention that when pirates attack they will need to raise an army but you already mentioned that gun laws would be more lax so a lot more fully automatic weapons will be present on this "island" than anywhere else--with the exception of military bases, so good luck pirates. You can't seem to understand that this is about escaping moral coercion than anything else.
Go in your speed boat if there were any islands like what hes talking about.You go out cruising with your buddys or girl friend you may want to open up your speed boat these rich lunatics would be shooting at you while you were cruising along on the high seas.Maybe your on a break with your black wife or you maybe a black guy with a white wife what would these freaks do to these people.Maybe there would be a lynching kidnapped or worse this is a bad evil and mad idear white only bull shit.STUPID
To the guy talking in this video I'd like to say that instead of bad mouthing libertarians you should encourage all of us to support seasteading and let us move to one of these seasteads when they are up and running so that all the libertarians that you hate so much will be out of your way. Then we can have our society and you can have yours and everyone will be happy. I'd love to see which society thrives better
he earned his money with a good idea - lets see what the banksters and politicians waste their money on - the ones that havent earned it rather conned it and printed it on the backs of the people
Libertarianism is a joke? You sir are a joke.. this country was founded on the ideas of liberty. Can anyone tell me how this loser got a radio show? I guess all you have to do these days to get on air is constantly regurgitate establishment talking points and bash ideas of freedom and liberty...even though if not for those very ideas, this jackass would not even have a show, for there would be no FIRST AMENDMENT!!
ur saying they should completely cut themselves off, wich they dont even want 2, wich wil mean they wont make money and they are stupid even tho it was your idea. and about the taxes thing, sealand loans sections of the building off to busineses and other people, that would pay the smal army. and also do a small amount of research next time, you say wat if they get attacked by pirates, sealand was invaded for a few days but if your smart you have contacts off the island to sort shit out.
40 thumbs up for a "This guy is a fuckass" statement? "this guy doesn't make an intelligent argument and yet he acts as if he's more intelligent than those he's talking about." Wow! Now there are a couple of good arguments demonstrating something incorrect in his comments. Sorry, but FL's (fake Libertarians) really are as dumb as he easily demonstrates them to be. But they sure have a lot of good bumper sticker slogans e.g. "taxes are theft", etc..I think I'll make one:"Everything coerces me!"
It is truly painful this guy thinks spending your money is the big deal but not the ability of the gov. to take money from the owners and give it to the ones who did not earn it...
Better infrastructure , giving homeless people food, giving teachers higher wages, naah lets just not give super rich people tax cuts. So that people like Peter Thiel can build his own island.
Haters gonna hate, although I do find seasteading ridiculous, but just for the fact of living out in the ocean. So lets hear these two questions that instantly disprove any libertarian thought. You're more than welcome to present your argument @ freesteader. c o m.
well, 2 things: 1)these people who have "too much money" EARNED that money, and 2)why does he care how they spend their PERSONAL money? I mean, it's not his business. this "argument" sounds more like an unnecessary rant to me.
Linking libertarianism to marijuana? this is the same as when you listen to old American stand-ups tarring all Indians as wasters to soften public opinion on the raping of their land and country, if you don't like something then try to sway public opinion by using illogical links to known taboo subject matter, if you remove logic from an statement then you have an statement that only matters to you. textbook volume over substance the trademark of the bully which I believe this man to be.
"If I own a restaurant, no blacks allowed! What now?"
You're an idiot. Segregation was a government policy in the first place. What businessman would turn away ANYONE who wants to give them money? A businessman who will be out of a job in a week.
As Colonel sanders said when asked what he thought of hippies "Well, they like chicken, don't they?"
Hey, if you won't let us have a free market in your country, we'll go make our own.
...And if pirates start coming, they'd probably have the best private security services in the world. I would have thought this would be obvious. Shipping companies are already hiring private maritime security forces because the navy has failed them.
Your one or two questions: Yes, one should be able to discriminate against blacks. Congrats, I support FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION WHICH IS GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
It's the same damn thing as freedom of speech. If you don't want people to say objectionable shit, don't give them freedom. If you don't want people to associate with people in objectionable ways, don't give them freedom. You support oppression, I don't.
Yes, people should be able to discriminate on their own property. There, I wasn't afraid to answer it. It's funny how low brow bottom-of-the-barrel analysis this is, and the guy thinks he's brilliant. Paul Krugman makes me facepalm less.
"I own a restaurant -- no blacks allowed. That's the libertarian ideal."
No, but maybe you can do that. But then you know what happens? Because the rest of society doesn't agree with your no-blacks allowed stance, YOU get boycotted and your business fails. Oh wow, oh, oh no, do you mean to infer that forms of non-central economic planning and governance can actually work?
By the way, I'd be up for a 5 minute chat... "Give me 5 minutes with any libertarian..."
I like how he says "we need to give them more money" when he is referring to tax cuts. This is a major problem in the way liberals think; they think all your money is theirs and they might let you keep some of it, because they are so generous.
@icutad2 he might be using sarcasm. i mean he cant really be this stupid.
these riggs are intended for scientific research. and only people with libertarian beliefs will be a part of this island. 2:58 no army cuz everyone is Heavily armed lol.
Walk into any business and you will see/ "WE reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. You have not looked at Ron Paul very closely. If you had and were honest with yourself. You would realize that right now you are helping in America's end as a nation state.
I've heared quite some anti-libertarian arguments, but this guy is really talking the biggest bullcrap I have ever heared and has for sure note understood what libertarianism is about. Somalia a libertarian country, at least I could applaud him for having a sense of humor. The way how this idiot takes it for granted how somebody whould spend HIS OWN MONEY says enough. It's because of people like Sam Seder we are currently in a major crisis. His system failed, not the libertarian system.
@ymkamara420 There was one Libertarian who went to sea to avoid paying taxes, his name was L. Ron Hubbard. It was paradise for him, but slavery for everyone else. Everyone who went with him thought they were going to live a good life. Going to sea to avoid rules isn't a new idea.
@TheVincent0909 You mean the the time when we traded slaves and exterminated the Native Indians? or you mean the time when there were no labor laws that men, women and children got exhausted and died at the levels of the machines?
So this idiot Sam Seder is angry about how some rich libertarian people are spending their OWN money, instead, he sould be angry abot how goverment spends the money that comes from the taxpayers pockets.
@adamj425 - Why? Because he makes an excellent point(s)? Why are you so scared of the truth? A society without rules and regulations melts down really quickly, just ask the people of Somalia.
@TheInternetWanderer No, his point(s) are not excellent and I'm not scared of the truth. I've already accepted it. You, as well as the guy in this video, are just exhibiting your obvious ignorance concerning libertarian philosophy.
@TheInternetWanderer No, his point(s) are not excellent and I'm not scared of the truth. I've already accepted it. You, as well as the guy in this video, are just exhibiting your obvious ignorance concerning libertarian philosophy.
@TheInternetWanderer No, his point(s) are not excellent and I'm not scared of the truth. I've already accepted it. You, as well as the guy in this video, are just exhibiting your obvious ignorance concerning libertarian philosophy.
@YouSayYouWantA - "How do they protect property and contract rights then??" Essentially, they don’t. As far as I know, there is no protection under the law. Somalia is a shattered society. And you're right, the U.S is not a 3rd world country, it wasn't my intention to imply otherwise. But Libertarian ideals, if taken too far, can be a social step, or two, backwards.
How will they pay for a military force? here's an idea a militia! Every man and woman, would have weapons and would be ready to fight or the people will agree to hire PMSCs!
Yes, I DO think that a property owner should have the right to exclude whomever they please. If they're racist, they don't have to sell to minorities, and they'll pay for it in the market. But most of all the principle of self-ownership and the right to use of one's property so long as they do not abridge the rights of others is paramount. That IS a libertarian ideal. Not that I agree with it, but I don't agree with the ways a lot of people use their property. Tough luck, that's how it goes.
"how you gonna pay for an army" "that's gonna mean taxes"
Nah. See Chaos Theory by Bob Murphy. Free pdf online.
I'd recommend to the presenter that he assume that those willing to invest large amounts of their own money on the project have thought it through with some care at least. While he--rehearsing typical pro state talking points--clearly hasn't.
libertarians are fucking retarded! you guys fancy yourself as government rebels but really your footsoldiers for the aristocracy.. Your a bunch of middle class, white , suburbanite pieces of shit that had the government hand you everything and than complain about your freedom. It is incredibly sad how many people died in the civil war so that black slaves can be free just so over hundred years later a bunch, spoiled, white libertarians can act like the only shackled members of society .Idiots!
this is an entertaining, insightful report. whats up with all the dislikes? are there really this many brainwashed, beer-soaked sycophants to the wealthy elites? when are Americans going to wake up and stop parroting the corporate conservative agenda?
First: We don't give them money ... they earn it! They produce a product or a service that consumers desire, and they trade their good or service for an amount of money that is agreed upon by both parties. It's their money, even steven, you give me this, I give you that. No one else should have the right to claim a part of that money.
Second: It's libertarian ... everyone will be armed by default. They don't need an army.
Third: Sam, you're an idiot. Our nation was founded on libertarianism
@HumbleWillis Regarding discrimination by businesses: Businesses that discriminate, by their very design, limit their own economic opportunities. They do less business and are more likely to FAIL. They are literally giving their business to others who don't discriminate. They will put themselves out of business and it is no longer a problem.
@HumbleWillis And good luck with commerce from you island? Ever hear of Taiwan?! Japan?! These are both island nations with next to zero natural resources that are powerful economic powers on the national market! You've yet to make one valid point in your video.
the libertarians who have never taken an economics class in their life are populating on this video. HEY, Austrians, go to a UNIVERSITY and STUDY instead of watching YOUTUBE all day. you idiots HATE college, and that's you will always be NOBODIES and LOSERS in LIFE.
yep, I hate being told I am against capitalism when I am not. I am just against the religion of free markets. it can exist in certain sectors of the economy, but not the entire economy. a big fan of the mixed economy. Libertarians act as if it has never been done before, but their ideas have been done. there is a reason why most countries implement a mixed economic system. some bias toward free market others more biased towards central control but still mixed.
@LouieDaProtectionist That's a great idea. Spend big bucks to go to a state sponsored institution and get taught what a wonderful job the state is doing and why it should have more power to "fix" things. Obviously anyone that doesn't/can't do this must just be a loser. ALL CAPS RAGE!!!
@HunterAdamHaley LOL at your stupid ass link. First off this is research from a Economics Grad Student not a scholarly journal from an expert on economic poltical research. Second, it states this is even better "The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that provides information on the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world." LOL Nothing is nonpartisan when it comes to these research groups. So there for this can be total bullshit. Is this is the best that you have?
@HunterAdamHaley The guys name is Charlie Schaezlein he went to Chapman University a Christian religious school in Cali. I can just Google anything like you and pass it as fact or truth on Youtube. From research this guy is not an expert in his field.
@HunterAdamHaley LOL you seriously did make me laugh. You are just mad because I embarrassed you about your little chart that you sent me. You know what? I like you however because even when you had an epic failure, you tried. Dude just never be a lawyer in the future, you would get eaten alive.
@HunterAdamHaley Obviously the people on this video are fu**en stupid because I did not type one piece of commentary on here about Capitalism or Socialism. PLEASE point out where I types anything about those political schools of economic thought. I was just pointing that a graph you sent me was bullshit and not backed up by any expert but a grad student at some 3rd tier university I bet. Regarding how Liberterian make the most money in all political groups is false by your chart
@HunterAdamHaley the thing you call capitalism is not the system that is running at the moment and considered as capitalism. now weve got a shitload of people believing that a neverending upward spiral can be possible without downs and ups like a rollercoaster has. and when something is going down its called "uuuh crisis wont happen again in future" ... dude ... happend each 20-30 years, thats the down. and dont tell me you like it to not knowing how to pay bills.
@HunterAdamHaley I support and vote Ron Paul so that shows how wrong you are. I'm actually a Liberterian myself. I agree with a least 90% of Ron Paul views on his international, economic and social issues that he supports. So please don't ype out of your ass again not knowing what your talking about calling people Socialist or Communist. When I know you and the other other people on this video are not educated enough to even know what that means.
the rich man is a parasitic theif. He could only have become rich by usurping the wealth that belonged to others. Thus it's legitimate to take that wealth back off the rich. They are the criminal vermin of humanity
@Houshalter their products are manufactured by exploited workers. You need to compulsorily attend a Communist re-education centre, but first you must grow a brain cell or two
Well, what did you expect would happen when nation states abuse their most productive people? Many of China's new millionaires reportedly plan to get citizenship in other countries and move their fortunes beyond the reach of the progressive wealth redistributers in China's government. I can't say that I blame them. The world's richest people view nation states as competing hotels, and shop around for ones which offer good services at reasonable rates in the form of taxes and regulations.
wait? you think the CCP redistributes wealth? that's funny. They're capitalist buddy. The problem that everyone in China has with the CCP is the lack of social, economic, and political freedom. There are also lots of nationalist who think the CCP sucks up too much to the US and Japan. Anyway the rich in China usually leave because ofr over-regulation, and corruption. There is lots of corruption in China.
I don't understand why this guy is so upset. If a libertarian president got elected or something then I could understand, cause that effects him, but this is people going off and doing their own thing. Seriously, what does he care? He and is people are more than welcome to round up a bunch of money and start their own floating country and run it how they want. Why hate on the libertarians when they're not even effecting him?
You know, we tried something like this a few hundred years ago and it worked out rather well. Once result was a place called the United States of America, this guy might have heard of it.
The Seasteading idea isn't limited to Libertarian's, nutty lefties can do it too. Let this guy and his friends create their own floating island country... of course it will go broke after they run out of other peoples tax money to spend.
"looser building codes at sea" HAHA hopefully theyll build it rite on the San Andreas fault. and what about upkeep? who's gonna b workin 4 these rich assholes? r they gonna import factory children from Indonesia, cuz i cant see Thiel actually doing any REAL backbreaking labor.
@SamSeder you sound like an idiot,you don't know what libertarianism is, if you were to say no blacks allowed on your coffee shop someone would open a coffe shop across yours and allow blacks how hard was that. you liberals don't know how to think thats why the MSM thinks for you telling you what to believe.
you over-simplify it. Black people tend to be wary of anyone that wants to do that. Also you have to realize black people currently and historically has always received hostility from those in mainstream American culture. IT's always been perception and people think that's reality. The media doesn't help either. But what if a group of business owners decided not to have blacks at all. If someone undercuts that that group will confront that man force him to think like them or die.
and that isn't a conspiracy theory. Shit like that actually happened, even in my state. Even when my mom was growing up and she's in her 40s. Soo it tells you that you that this stuff hasn't been too long ago. The generation who perpetuated it is still alive and kicking. Anyway it seems to me that that is an idea libertarian society you want. if one place doesn't service blacks another will to get the money. you don't put into account, culture. Check out Rosewood.
Wouldn't the billionaires that are funding this island actually be the ones to also fund a military that would protect it from foreign invaders? And besides, Milton Friedman, an internationally recognized and renowned economist, did not advocate a stateless society. He actually believed in minimal government while advocating way more individual freedom.
Milton Friedman is featured in many videos on Youtube. Take a look at some of them and learn something so you're not fooled by propaganda.
@summercures2 Yes, but David Friedman (Milton's son) does advocate for a stateless society. And Patri Friedman (Milton's grandson) founded The Seasteading Institute to create places where new forms of government can be tested peacefully. Many seasteads may have non-state governance in the future.
"No contact with organized society, but theirs" and this is why Sam Seder is and idiot that doesn't know what he is talking about.
mcentirejg 4 hours ago
LOL you see how he's trying to convince himself rather than anyone else?
Cornampoo 17 hours ago
What a dick-head!!
canis65536 19 hours ago
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If these libertarians want to make money in the US but live in Ayn Rand paradise, they are just as bad as illegal immigrants.
andrewsaccount09 1 day ago
1.25 million dollars is chump change to 800 billion dollar stimulus. I guess we need higher taxes to fund the unions, USPS, DMV etc.
apex02001 3 days ago 2
Name one instance where Peter Thiel was given a dime by the government! What a worthless piece of shit this guy is!
@2:36,
That already happened dumbass. Sealand fought off an invasion. It's called fighting back. You get a bunch of SMART bots and have them shoot. Investment alone, and not taxes, would drive the military profits. Inefficiency would be virtually nonexistent.
If you've got a problem with Seasteads, don't live on one.
P.S. Bob's Burgers sucks ass
MegaAstrodude 4 days ago 2
I just LOVE how Libertarians DOMINATE youtube!! WHOOT
RON PAUL 2012!
hortulanus94 4 days ago
pirates wouldn't be a problem because everyone would be armed.
MartyrLoserKing 4 days ago
Put it underwater instead and call it "Rapture" and I'm sold so long as we avoid commercial gene splicing.
MachShot1337 6 days ago
dude. get a job
daafies2 1 week ago
I thought libertarians believe in free trade and markets. Doesn't that mean trading within the mainland is permitted? This kind of remind me of some off-shore country that the rich goes to do business to avoid being tax.
rzxwm10 1 week ago
Or they could make money not exist anymore.
SpeshuuAnunnaki 1 week ago
Is it really that hard to believe? If someone wants to escape the monstrosity that government has become where can they go? You mention that when pirates attack they will need to raise an army but you already mentioned that gun laws would be more lax so a lot more fully automatic weapons will be present on this "island" than anywhere else--with the exception of military bases, so good luck pirates. You can't seem to understand that this is about escaping moral coercion than anything else.
badlyblownfuse 1 week ago
Go in your speed boat if there were any islands like what hes talking about.You go out cruising with your buddys or girl friend you may want to open up your speed boat these rich lunatics would be shooting at you while you were cruising along on the high seas.Maybe your on a break with your black wife or you maybe a black guy with a white wife what would these freaks do to these people.Maybe there would be a lynching kidnapped or worse this is a bad evil and mad idear white only bull shit.STUPID
garyleothelion7 1 week ago
Communist, get out.
KetoMelange 1 week ago
To the guy talking in this video I'd like to say that instead of bad mouthing libertarians you should encourage all of us to support seasteading and let us move to one of these seasteads when they are up and running so that all the libertarians that you hate so much will be out of your way. Then we can have our society and you can have yours and everyone will be happy. I'd love to see which society thrives better
FreedomFighter1131 1 week ago
he earned his money with a good idea - lets see what the banksters and politicians waste their money on - the ones that havent earned it rather conned it and printed it on the backs of the people
PHONEYPOLITICS 1 week ago
Why is it always one EXTREME or the other ?
I'm amazed how the 'Left' lumps 'Libertarianism' together with the 'Right'...
So having libertarian ideals AUTOMATICALLY makes one a nigger lynching, wife beating, sister fucking, gun wielding, shrimp munching maniac.
That's right...
I think it's a crime for the government to use tax $ to embark on missions of wanton slaughter in foreign lands...
Obviously I hate gays, and want 'niggers' to go back to Africa.
Of course.
johnnycaboosehead 1 week ago
Majority Report. The name fits the theme
TheAmelu19 2 weeks ago
Libertarianism is a joke? You sir are a joke.. this country was founded on the ideas of liberty. Can anyone tell me how this loser got a radio show? I guess all you have to do these days to get on air is constantly regurgitate establishment talking points and bash ideas of freedom and liberty...even though if not for those very ideas, this jackass would not even have a show, for there would be no FIRST AMENDMENT!!
wdunbar26 2 weeks ago
I am the count of sealand, I demand you take down this video at once. lol
LogicShadow 2 weeks ago
getting in that weird type of you tube again with political clueless monkeys
DSBoards 2 weeks ago
1. innovation 2. right to your property 3. diversity
GandhiJefferson 2 weeks ago
dear sam seder just slap your self! u just embarrassing your self lol
jdmstyleeg6 2 weeks ago
what a fucking moron!
fognog3 2 weeks ago
Us founders were libs and brought about a 5000 year leap
luckycharmz336 2 weeks ago
He could have hismown country and get lower taxes - it would be a good investment
luckycharmz336 2 weeks ago
ur saying they should completely cut themselves off, wich they dont even want 2, wich wil mean they wont make money and they are stupid even tho it was your idea. and about the taxes thing, sealand loans sections of the building off to busineses and other people, that would pay the smal army. and also do a small amount of research next time, you say wat if they get attacked by pirates, sealand was invaded for a few days but if your smart you have contacts off the island to sort shit out.
WanabeBeachBum 2 weeks ago
What a pretentious little fuck.
Rattlesnakemeuk 2 weeks ago
@icutad2
well... at least he didn't bring up Bioshock.
NewTorqueCity 2 weeks ago
This guy has the iq of a kid but he's attempting to act superior hahahah.
papaown 2 weeks ago
lol this guy has a severe lack of knowledge of Libertarian ideals
MatthaisX 2 weeks ago 12
At least he is not a liberal negro.
BobLeKatt 2 weeks ago
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40 thumbs up for a "This guy is a fuckass" statement? "this guy doesn't make an intelligent argument and yet he acts as if he's more intelligent than those he's talking about." Wow! Now there are a couple of good arguments demonstrating something incorrect in his comments. Sorry, but FL's (fake Libertarians) really are as dumb as he easily demonstrates them to be. But they sure have a lot of good bumper sticker slogans e.g. "taxes are theft", etc..I think I'll make one:"Everything coerces me!"
kropotkinbeard1 2 weeks ago
this guy is an idiot
theoneandonly99 2 weeks ago
Ridiculous, Joke? that's an argument? LOL
MrFmmcosta 2 weeks ago
It is truly painful this guy thinks spending your money is the big deal but not the ability of the gov. to take money from the owners and give it to the ones who did not earn it...
MrBlobak 2 weeks ago
Better infrastructure , giving homeless people food, giving teachers higher wages, naah lets just not give super rich people tax cuts. So that people like Peter Thiel can build his own island.
williammoller9 3 weeks ago
idiot with a microphone fuck you
FreedomAtRisk 3 weeks ago 2
What An Ignorant Fuck Head.
JoshKindy 3 weeks ago
It's not money wasting. It's scientific experimentation. You're too thick to understand.
jedihunter176 3 weeks ago
Haters gonna hate, although I do find seasteading ridiculous, but just for the fact of living out in the ocean. So lets hear these two questions that instantly disprove any libertarian thought. You're more than welcome to present your argument @ freesteader. c o m.
Thrawnization 3 weeks ago
OMG!!! BIO SHOCK IN REAL LIFE!!!!
ZerqTM 3 weeks ago
u suck dog
KNOWZ
peace
SUPERKNOWZ 3 weeks ago
Anyone else thought he said Peadophile?
MasterPebsie 3 weeks ago
There are other defence options besides a Government assembled armies.
CaptainAmerica5013 4 weeks ago
This actually sounds awesome.
AnonymanForeverlol 4 weeks ago
well, 2 things: 1)these people who have "too much money" EARNED that money, and 2)why does he care how they spend their PERSONAL money? I mean, it's not his business. this "argument" sounds more like an unnecessary rant to me.
botsyndicate1 4 weeks ago
This guy has no idea of what libertarianism is does he?
He just makes himself sound stupider and stupider with each passing second.
LJAR 1 month ago
What an emptyhead, this guy :|
HarmonyTea1984 1 month ago
Libertaretards should go to Somalia.
TheThordir 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@TheThordir typical communist, not open to differing opinions
HunterAdamHaley 4 weeks ago
@HunterAdamHaley
Typical retard, thinking that capitalist liberals who don't agree with them are commies.
TheThordir 4 weeks ago
@TheThordir you obviously don't know what socialism or communism means, you should look it up in a dictionary sometime
HunterAdamHaley 4 weeks ago 6
Linking libertarianism to marijuana? this is the same as when you listen to old American stand-ups tarring all Indians as wasters to soften public opinion on the raping of their land and country, if you don't like something then try to sway public opinion by using illogical links to known taboo subject matter, if you remove logic from an statement then you have an statement that only matters to you. textbook volume over substance the trademark of the bully which I believe this man to be.
pepsickle 1 month ago
"If I own a restaurant, no blacks allowed! What now?"
You're an idiot. Segregation was a government policy in the first place. What businessman would turn away ANYONE who wants to give them money? A businessman who will be out of a job in a week.
As Colonel sanders said when asked what he thought of hippies "Well, they like chicken, don't they?"
jarvy251 1 month ago
Hey, if you won't let us have a free market in your country, we'll go make our own.
...And if pirates start coming, they'd probably have the best private security services in the world. I would have thought this would be obvious. Shipping companies are already hiring private maritime security forces because the navy has failed them.
jarvy251 1 month ago
You just sound jealous!
CueballUK 1 month ago
Sam you must be doing a good job look at all the right-wing nuts slagging you off. Keep up the good work.
HelmetBlissta 1 month ago
dude, you just look and sound bitter. You could have have actual argument points but it's all buried under all your disdain
akirashock66 1 month ago
I do not smoke pot, I just don't care if other people do. That's where you fall short.
livfreeordi3 1 month ago
What a pathetic video
timourkh 1 month ago
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RoryWinterbourne 1 month ago
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RoryWinterbourne 1 month ago
Your one or two questions: Yes, one should be able to discriminate against blacks. Congrats, I support FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION WHICH IS GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
It's the same damn thing as freedom of speech. If you don't want people to say objectionable shit, don't give them freedom. If you don't want people to associate with people in objectionable ways, don't give them freedom. You support oppression, I don't.
NativeNewMexican 1 month ago 2
Yeah, we can't POSSIBLY defend ourselves or CHOOSE to pay for a military defense firm. Idiot.
NativeNewMexican 1 month ago
LOL Libertarian fucktards.
Primordialfan1 1 month ago
Yes, people should be able to discriminate on their own property. There, I wasn't afraid to answer it. It's funny how low brow bottom-of-the-barrel analysis this is, and the guy thinks he's brilliant. Paul Krugman makes me facepalm less.
ronrutherford 1 month ago
I've never heard someone say so much, and yet say so little.
ronrutherford 1 month ago
By the way, Somalia is NOT by ANY stretch of the imagination a country rooted in libertarian ideals.
saifoda 1 month ago 5
"I own a restaurant -- no blacks allowed. That's the libertarian ideal."
No, but maybe you can do that. But then you know what happens? Because the rest of society doesn't agree with your no-blacks allowed stance, YOU get boycotted and your business fails. Oh wow, oh, oh no, do you mean to infer that forms of non-central economic planning and governance can actually work?
By the way, I'd be up for a 5 minute chat... "Give me 5 minutes with any libertarian..."
saifoda 1 month ago 7
Wow. You're a real moron.
saifoda 1 month ago
peplace the word island with new country and you have the story of the united states..
BadWithNames123 1 month ago
I like how he says "we need to give them more money" when he is referring to tax cuts. This is a major problem in the way liberals think; they think all your money is theirs and they might let you keep some of it, because they are so generous.
bryansummers1 1 month ago
this guy doesn't make an intelligent argument and yet he acts as if he's more intelligent than those he's talking about.
icutad2 1 month ago 18
@icutad2 he might be using sarcasm. i mean he cant really be this stupid.
these riggs are intended for scientific research. and only people with libertarian beliefs will be a part of this island. 2:58 no army cuz everyone is Heavily armed lol.
alvisc2002 2 weeks ago
Walk into any business and you will see/ "WE reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. You have not looked at Ron Paul very closely. If you had and were honest with yourself. You would realize that right now you are helping in America's end as a nation state.
saintron60 1 month ago
omfg BIOSHOCK IRL holy shit
noobler9 1 month ago
I've heared quite some anti-libertarian arguments, but this guy is really talking the biggest bullcrap I have ever heared and has for sure note understood what libertarianism is about. Somalia a libertarian country, at least I could applaud him for having a sense of humor. The way how this idiot takes it for granted how somebody whould spend HIS OWN MONEY says enough. It's because of people like Sam Seder we are currently in a major crisis. His system failed, not the libertarian system.
YouChoot 1 month ago
to all my libertarians. name one libertarian nation with a healthy middle class exists today. just one
ymkamara420 1 month ago
@ymkamara420 i will only go there if there are plasmids and big daddys
httm241 1 month ago
@ymkamara420 There was one Libertarian who went to sea to avoid paying taxes, his name was L. Ron Hubbard. It was paradise for him, but slavery for everyone else. Everyone who went with him thought they were going to live a good life. Going to sea to avoid rules isn't a new idea.
BannedUfos 1 month ago
@ymkamara420 Uhhh...the first task is to name one libertarian nation in existence today, then we'll talk about specifics.
adamj425 1 month ago
@ymkamara420 it was the U.S. until we became more statist.
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ymkamara420 1 month ago
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@TheVincent0909 that is bill shit. there was no middle class until after the 1940's
ymkamara420 1 month ago
@TheVincent0909 You mean the the time when we traded slaves and exterminated the Native Indians? or you mean the time when there were no labor laws that men, women and children got exhausted and died at the levels of the machines?
NaegFowleri 1 month ago
@ymkamara420 There are no libertarian countries in the world to exemplify...
LeoBaoig 1 month ago
@ymkamara420 There aren't ANY libertarian nations. Your question is akin to "When did you stop beating your wife?"
ronrutherford 1 month ago
@ronrutherford u know why there are no libertarian nation's?
ymkamara420 1 month ago
@ymkamara420 Because the State in it's very nature doesn't allow the ideology to ever exist for more than a very brief period.
ronrutherford 1 month ago
It makes you nauseous that someone is doing what they want with their own money? Lulz
trentstrong 1 month ago
So this idiot Sam Seder is angry about how some rich libertarian people are spending their OWN money, instead, he sould be angry abot how goverment spends the money that comes from the taxpayers pockets.
ogarzabello 1 month ago
I love how it's called the majority report, yet has more dislikes than likes. xD
illuminat10n 1 month ago
I made an indepth response to this video. Check out my channel to see it.
t3hsauce 1 month ago
This guy is a fuckass.
adamj425 1 month ago 43
@adamj425 - Why? Because he makes an excellent point(s)? Why are you so scared of the truth? A society without rules and regulations melts down really quickly, just ask the people of Somalia.
TheInternetWanderer 2 weeks ago
@TheInternetWanderer No, his point(s) are not excellent and I'm not scared of the truth. I've already accepted it. You, as well as the guy in this video, are just exhibiting your obvious ignorance concerning libertarian philosophy.
adamj425 2 weeks ago
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@TheInternetWanderer No, his point(s) are not excellent and I'm not scared of the truth. I've already accepted it. You, as well as the guy in this video, are just exhibiting your obvious ignorance concerning libertarian philosophy.
adamj425 2 weeks ago
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@TheInternetWanderer No, his point(s) are not excellent and I'm not scared of the truth. I've already accepted it. You, as well as the guy in this video, are just exhibiting your obvious ignorance concerning libertarian philosophy.
adamj425 2 weeks ago
@TheInternetWanderer
You're an idiot. Somalia is a communist dictatorship. It's nothing but rules and regulations jackass.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg - you better double check that little man. they have no government at this point. Oh ya, idiot!
TheInternetWanderer 2 weeks ago
@TheInternetWanderer How do they protect property and contract rights then?? We're not talking about a 3rd world war zone in anarchy.
YouSayYouWantA 1 week ago
@YouSayYouWantA - "How do they protect property and contract rights then??" Essentially, they don’t. As far as I know, there is no protection under the law. Somalia is a shattered society. And you're right, the U.S is not a 3rd world country, it wasn't my intention to imply otherwise. But Libertarian ideals, if taken too far, can be a social step, or two, backwards.
TheInternetWanderer 1 week ago
@sanitydotorg - Jackass, you couldn't Google Somalia and get information before you posted your dumbass comment. You are an idiot!
TheInternetWanderer 2 weeks ago
How will they pay for a military force? here's an idea a militia! Every man and woman, would have weapons and would be ready to fight or the people will agree to hire PMSCs!
rehwr 1 month ago
Yes, I DO think that a property owner should have the right to exclude whomever they please. If they're racist, they don't have to sell to minorities, and they'll pay for it in the market. But most of all the principle of self-ownership and the right to use of one's property so long as they do not abridge the rights of others is paramount. That IS a libertarian ideal. Not that I agree with it, but I don't agree with the ways a lot of people use their property. Tough luck, that's how it goes.
Taiyama2 1 month ago
This is retarded. Jealousy is the sign of a small man.
Crusadinn 1 month ago
This guy has no frickin' idea what libertarians believe O.o
So many strawmen!
natskis 1 month ago 2
You mad bro?
WideWorldOfWisdom 1 month ago
"how you gonna pay for an army" "that's gonna mean taxes"
Nah. See Chaos Theory by Bob Murphy. Free pdf online.
I'd recommend to the presenter that he assume that those willing to invest large amounts of their own money on the project have thought it through with some care at least. While he--rehearsing typical pro state talking points--clearly hasn't.
bitbutter 1 month ago 5
For an in depth response to Sam on this issue, check out the featured video on my channel.
t3hsauce 1 month ago
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musicfan088 1 month ago
libertarians are fucking retarded! you guys fancy yourself as government rebels but really your footsoldiers for the aristocracy.. Your a bunch of middle class, white , suburbanite pieces of shit that had the government hand you everything and than complain about your freedom. It is incredibly sad how many people died in the civil war so that black slaves can be free just so over hundred years later a bunch, spoiled, white libertarians can act like the only shackled members of society .Idiots!
cocosear 1 month ago
@cocosear You DON'T like the idea of shipping all the libertarians off to an island?
ZrazorRozenstrauch 1 month ago
@cocosear Thomas Sowell is a black guy and a Libertarian, So is Larry Elder!
rehwr 1 month ago
this is an entertaining, insightful report. whats up with all the dislikes? are there really this many brainwashed, beer-soaked sycophants to the wealthy elites? when are Americans going to wake up and stop parroting the corporate conservative agenda?
truthslap 1 month ago
First: We don't give them money ... they earn it! They produce a product or a service that consumers desire, and they trade their good or service for an amount of money that is agreed upon by both parties. It's their money, even steven, you give me this, I give you that. No one else should have the right to claim a part of that money.
Second: It's libertarian ... everyone will be armed by default. They don't need an army.
Third: Sam, you're an idiot. Our nation was founded on libertarianism
HumbleWillis 1 month ago
@HumbleWillis Regarding discrimination by businesses: Businesses that discriminate, by their very design, limit their own economic opportunities. They do less business and are more likely to FAIL. They are literally giving their business to others who don't discriminate. They will put themselves out of business and it is no longer a problem.
Somalia is run by warlords, not by libertarians.
HumbleWillis 1 month ago
@HumbleWillis And good luck with commerce from you island? Ever hear of Taiwan?! Japan?! These are both island nations with next to zero natural resources that are powerful economic powers on the national market! You've yet to make one valid point in your video.
HumbleWillis 1 month ago
rapture
capi7al 1 month ago
Paulbots mad :(
maozebong100 1 month ago
the libertarians who have never taken an economics class in their life are populating on this video. HEY, Austrians, go to a UNIVERSITY and STUDY instead of watching YOUTUBE all day. you idiots HATE college, and that's you will always be NOBODIES and LOSERS in LIFE.
LouieDaProtectionist 1 month ago
@LouieDaProtectionist
yep, I hate being told I am against capitalism when I am not. I am just against the religion of free markets. it can exist in certain sectors of the economy, but not the entire economy. a big fan of the mixed economy. Libertarians act as if it has never been done before, but their ideas have been done. there is a reason why most countries implement a mixed economic system. some bias toward free market others more biased towards central control but still mixed.
lordblazer 1 month ago
@LouieDaProtectionist That's a great idea. Spend big bucks to go to a state sponsored institution and get taught what a wonderful job the state is doing and why it should have more power to "fix" things. Obviously anyone that doesn't/can't do this must just be a loser. ALL CAPS RAGE!!!
Houshalter 1 month ago
@LouieDaProtectionist good try, but Libertarians are much wealthier than any other political group
HunterAdamHaley 1 month ago
@HunterAdamHaley You are a dumbass, please give numbers to back that up.
musicfan088 1 month ago
@musicfan088 31% of people making over $75k are Libertarians, I sent you the link in a message, now come back and tell everyone how you were wrong
HunterAdamHaley 1 month ago
@HunterAdamHaley LOL at your stupid ass link. First off this is research from a Economics Grad Student not a scholarly journal from an expert on economic poltical research. Second, it states this is even better "The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that provides information on the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world." LOL Nothing is nonpartisan when it comes to these research groups. So there for this can be total bullshit. Is this is the best that you have?
musicfan088 1 month ago
@HunterAdamHaley If so please go back to school and come again.
musicfan088 1 month ago
@HunterAdamHaley The guys name is Charlie Schaezlein he went to Chapman University a Christian religious school in Cali. I can just Google anything like you and pass it as fact or truth on Youtube. From research this guy is not an expert in his field.
musicfan088 1 month ago
@musicfan088 it's easy to demagogue, but much harder to actually post truths
HunterAdamHaley 1 month ago
@HunterAdamHaley LOL you seriously did make me laugh. You are just mad because I embarrassed you about your little chart that you sent me. You know what? I like you however because even when you had an epic failure, you tried. Dude just never be a lawyer in the future, you would get eaten alive.
musicfan088 1 month ago
@musicfan088 I like Capitalism, you like Socialism. I sent facts, you sent nothing.
HunterAdamHaley 1 month ago 36
@HunterAdamHaley Obviously the people on this video are fu**en stupid because I did not type one piece of commentary on here about Capitalism or Socialism. PLEASE point out where I types anything about those political schools of economic thought. I was just pointing that a graph you sent me was bullshit and not backed up by any expert but a grad student at some 3rd tier university I bet. Regarding how Liberterian make the most money in all political groups is false by your chart
musicfan088 1 month ago
@HunterAdamHaley the thing you call capitalism is not the system that is running at the moment and considered as capitalism. now weve got a shitload of people believing that a neverending upward spiral can be possible without downs and ups like a rollercoaster has. and when something is going down its called "uuuh crisis wont happen again in future" ... dude ... happend each 20-30 years, thats the down. and dont tell me you like it to not knowing how to pay bills.
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musicfan088 1 month ago
@HunterAdamHaley I support and vote Ron Paul so that shows how wrong you are. I'm actually a Liberterian myself. I agree with a least 90% of Ron Paul views on his international, economic and social issues that he supports. So please don't ype out of your ass again not knowing what your talking about calling people Socialist or Communist. When I know you and the other other people on this video are not educated enough to even know what that means.
musicfan088 1 month ago
the rich man is a parasitic theif. He could only have become rich by usurping the wealth that belonged to others. Thus it's legitimate to take that wealth back off the rich. They are the criminal vermin of humanity
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 month ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY How dare they offer products and services that benefit millions of people and make money from it!
Houshalter 1 month ago
@Houshalter their products are manufactured by exploited workers. You need to compulsorily attend a Communist re-education centre, but first you must grow a brain cell or two
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 month ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY define "exploited". And why should this "exploitation" justify stealing other people's property.
Houshalter 1 month ago
Good luck with what? The entire united states is bottom feeding off china, japan, denmark and europe.
Were so deep in debt china basically owns this country.
And this guy, an american, wants to lecture people on having "good luck" utilizing a self sustaining economy?
hohohoho578 1 month ago
Well, what did you expect would happen when nation states abuse their most productive people? Many of China's new millionaires reportedly plan to get citizenship in other countries and move their fortunes beyond the reach of the progressive wealth redistributers in China's government. I can't say that I blame them. The world's richest people view nation states as competing hotels, and shop around for ones which offer good services at reasonable rates in the form of taxes and regulations.
MrAdvancedAtheist 1 month ago
@MrAdvancedAtheist
wait? you think the CCP redistributes wealth? that's funny. They're capitalist buddy. The problem that everyone in China has with the CCP is the lack of social, economic, and political freedom. There are also lots of nationalist who think the CCP sucks up too much to the US and Japan. Anyway the rich in China usually leave because ofr over-regulation, and corruption. There is lots of corruption in China.
lordblazer 1 month ago
T3hsauce did an excellent response to this, I recommend checking it out.
crazypants88 1 month ago
I don't understand why this guy is so upset. If a libertarian president got elected or something then I could understand, cause that effects him, but this is people going off and doing their own thing. Seriously, what does he care? He and is people are more than welcome to round up a bunch of money and start their own floating country and run it how they want. Why hate on the libertarians when they're not even effecting him?
jerryvalez 1 month ago 3
You know, we tried something like this a few hundred years ago and it worked out rather well. Once result was a place called the United States of America, this guy might have heard of it.
The Seasteading idea isn't limited to Libertarian's, nutty lefties can do it too. Let this guy and his friends create their own floating island country... of course it will go broke after they run out of other peoples tax money to spend.
JeffDeWitt 2 months ago 16
@JeffDeWitt oh I get it, nice :D let them fail so noone can deny that they do, an experiment so that our own society isn't one, I like it
noobler9 1 month ago
the rich are criminals
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 2 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY why? because they provide goods and services for you?! fucking typical
natritious1 2 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY The mobs of people using guns and force to steal from people who they deem to be criminals are criminals.
TheMoriMaster 2 months ago
"looser building codes at sea" HAHA hopefully theyll build it rite on the San Andreas fault. and what about upkeep? who's gonna b workin 4 these rich assholes? r they gonna import factory children from Indonesia, cuz i cant see Thiel actually doing any REAL backbreaking labor.
radmilitant 2 months ago
For an indepth response to Sam's nonesense, check out my video: watch?v=oIYy1eAJr-g&list=UUJqzk9XaDX2tHxI1WeOFkAQ&feature=plcp
t3hsauce 2 months ago
1.25 million? thats fuck all.
why do you care about what other people do with their own money.
AnarchyEnsues 2 months ago
@AnarchyEnsues cuz it affects everyone else.
radmilitant 2 months ago
@radmilitant How does it?
DustyCHK 1 month ago
@DustyCHK people default and their debts explode. recipes for a crisis that affects everybody. thats what happened in 2008.
radmilitant 1 month ago
what a dickhead
BrentfordPretender 2 months ago
This guy is so stupid....
JBJ4444 2 months ago
sam seder=ignorant!
xavierkral 2 months ago
@SamSeder you sound like an idiot,you don't know what libertarianism is, if you were to say no blacks allowed on your coffee shop someone would open a coffe shop across yours and allow blacks how hard was that. you liberals don't know how to think thats why the MSM thinks for you telling you what to believe.
Tethloach1 2 months ago
@Tethloach1
you over-simplify it. Black people tend to be wary of anyone that wants to do that. Also you have to realize black people currently and historically has always received hostility from those in mainstream American culture. IT's always been perception and people think that's reality. The media doesn't help either. But what if a group of business owners decided not to have blacks at all. If someone undercuts that that group will confront that man force him to think like them or die.
lordblazer 1 month ago
@Tethloach1
and that isn't a conspiracy theory. Shit like that actually happened, even in my state. Even when my mom was growing up and she's in her 40s. Soo it tells you that you that this stuff hasn't been too long ago. The generation who perpetuated it is still alive and kicking. Anyway it seems to me that that is an idea libertarian society you want. if one place doesn't service blacks another will to get the money. you don't put into account, culture. Check out Rosewood.
lordblazer 1 month ago
Wouldn't the billionaires that are funding this island actually be the ones to also fund a military that would protect it from foreign invaders? And besides, Milton Friedman, an internationally recognized and renowned economist, did not advocate a stateless society. He actually believed in minimal government while advocating way more individual freedom.
Milton Friedman is featured in many videos on Youtube. Take a look at some of them and learn something so you're not fooled by propaganda.
summercures2 2 months ago
@summercures2 Yes, but David Friedman (Milton's son) does advocate for a stateless society. And Patri Friedman (Milton's grandson) founded The Seasteading Institute to create places where new forms of government can be tested peacefully. Many seasteads may have non-state governance in the future.
t3hsauce 2 months ago
Its funny seeing people getting shit sacred of a prospect of limited government, like a toddler crying for mamma...
CitizenBeta2 2 months ago
What do they do when pirate come there? What from somalia?
Perhaps do what shipping companies have started doing employ ex special service personnel as armed guards.
The UK just made it legal, maybe they copied that one off of Dr Paul... If only they'd go further.
CitizenBeta2 2 months ago