@sahandpar I understand the wisdom behind executing apostates now. Not only do they become truth rejectors, they also become as rude as the kaafirs, with all their profanity.
@freghorn I give your religion as much respect as your religion gives me, there’s nothing complicated about it, and I have every right to insult a religion that goes out of it’s way to insult, to judge, and to condemn me as an inadequate human being, which your religion does with self righteous gusto. When it comes to insults your religion started this, not me. If your religion kept it’s big mouth shut so would I.
@sahandpar My religion does not insult human beings, it rejects the harmful actions that human beings do. It regards those actions as low and foolish. Such actions include sodomy, consumption of alcohol, adultery, fornication, etc. We accept the fact that humans fall into sin, but we regard sins as dirty and harmful. Humans are humans. We don't hate on people, we hate on their actions.
I don't think he debates for the right reasons, but it seems he thrives off winning these debates and in many videos arrogance is shown especially when debating and talking to people looks a bit fake to me, i hope im wrong anyway lets leave allah to judge, apart from that i admire his intellect his videos are very powerful and persuasive mashallah.
Religion aside here, Hamza Andreas Tzortzis is an arrogant, nasty bastard. I watched him show his true colours when he utterly dismissed a man asking an honest question in the video "Richard Dawkins meets Hamza the Muslim". Watch it on youtube if you don't believe me. Fuck you, Mr. Tzortzis.
Yeah, Islam invented everything, you know? The Greeks may have compiled libraries full of art, science, and philosophy several centuries before this hybrid Bedouin Christianity, but reality is just something you must ignore if you, your family, and friends are invested in insanity.
sure lets co-exist hamza, you can go back to a islam controlled country and be threatened with death and beheading for merely wanting to change religion. if you want to co-exist peacefully then you cant be barbaric. im sure every atheist wants peace as much as you do, but at the cost of what your religion does to people you will never be accepted when your religion is so messed up. islam can be a beautiful religion, dont get me wrong, just fix the horrific bad parts and ull see a huge change.
Tzortzis is just another gullible apologist who argues from personal ignorance and does not want to understand that one can't drag a religious text into the realm of science and subject it to scientific scrutiny.
The Quran says a man lived in a fish and that Solomon controlled Jinns WTF? That is in Gods last and final message to man lol You people are all crazy.
Yes, quite right. A secular society cannot and should not "tolerate minorities who don't want a secular society." Especially when said minority demands a way of life completely at odds with The International Bill of Human Rights.
@szabomihaiemil i dont think i'm the devil. i've helped many people before in my life, but if thats your opinion..... i'm just angry with Hamza because he uses dirty tactics by accusing Ed buckner of cussing his mother to look like the victim and trying to make Ed angry, and acts as if Peter cave insulted him to get the crowd on his side. he also raises his voice over his opponent all the time. but you should learn how to spell in english.
@darklight254 he dont sound greek at all to me, i live with a greek person who only studies in england, and have heard many muslim britons speak as Hamza does. maybe he is part greek, one girl said his grandfather is greek for sure, maybe she's right but he makes it a point to mention in every debate that he is greek or of orthodox heritage, so the debator cannot say "you were born a muslim, thats why you are one". most arabs are muslim - so if he's arab, he's probably a muslim, so he is lying.
@DanGRtheMan I live in England andhave heard white girls/boys speak with Asian British accents. Thus your comment is absurd. If a British white person moves to France at the age of one and lives there his/her whole life there then obviously they will speak French like a native French person would. Open your mind to the world around and not close it to the limited information you posses.
@spanpinki ok, i was angry at hamza when i made those comments cause i think he uses dirty tactics in the debates, accusing ed buckner of insulting his mother so he can look like a victim, acting as if peter cave insulted him, and raising his voice over his opponents all the time. so i tried to pick faults with him, and it seemed a coincidence how he had a british pakistani accent and looked like a pakistani, yet 'pretended' to be a convert. he may be greek or part greek, i don't know.
@spanpinki well, i didn't say he's definitely arab, i said he is very likely to be considering the coincidences. so i dont claim my opinion is fact. you say my comments are silly, that can't be proven with fact. THAT is your opinion. but perhaps your comment that you have met white english people with asian accents is true, and yes that can be proven. anyway, silly argument.
@DanGRtheMan BTW I know Greeks(100%) and some of them have posh accents and they look middle-eastern (Which they are). Honestly race is just a division humans have created.
@darklight254 thats the only reason i'm mentioning his race - because he mentions it all the time to make it a point that he converted to islam, but if he is arab, then he is probably lying about being a convert since most arabs are muslim.
islam and the quran also believes homosexuality is wrong and unnatural, when scientists have proven that gay men are born with female like brains in male bodies and vice versa for lesbian women. So it is natural, and therefore the quran and islam is demonising something natural. is Hamza saying if he doesnt have islam, he will go around raping and murdering? If so, he is a sick freak and a disgusting man, on top of the other prouncements i've made on him. i dont go harming innocent people.
When Tzortis debates, he uses dirty tactics like trying to get his opponent to insult him and making his opponent out to be a bad person, performing for the crowd, raising his voice above his opponents and feigning mock hurt, claiming that he is being insulted. He does not debate purely on the comparison of truths between the ideas he is trying to propogate and his opponent is.
the quran and islam does not believe in evolution, the big bang and many other scientific truths so why does he claim the quran is so perfect, true and real?
this man has arab facial features - he looks like a british pakistani and has a british asian accent. any arab will tell you this man looks arab and yet he says he is greek, what a fraud.
@DanGRtheMan actually, he is Greek. You can search his name on google (or wikipedia). His parents are Greek (Orthodox I assume), and he is a convert to Islam. Many Greeks (atleast from Cyproits) does look Arab or Pakistanis..
@seekknowledge9 i need to see proof of this, yes some greeks and cypriots look part turkish, even part arab, but this guy looks fully arab, in fact, of pakistani arabic descent specifically, with no european blood. he also has a london asian accent, i know because i was brought up in london knowing some asians. there might be a chance his european parents gave birth to an fully arab looking child but this is rare. he claims he is from there, but without proof, I can only still assume he's lying.
@seekknowledge9 i also have greek and many cypriot friends, some look part turkish and even part arab yes, but as i repeat, this guy looks like an eastern arab from the pakistan area.
@seekknowledge9 are you tellng me you believe whats written in wikipedia/google to be true? he could/would have edited those entries himself or someone would have written he's greek on his behalf. im telling you he looks 100% pakistani arab and 0% european/greek/cypriot himself and most likely has arab genes. unless i see his birth certificate with his parents greek surnames on it and a photo of his greek looking parents i will not believe what google says about him. i need more proof.
his accent actually sounds like amir khan's (the boxer) bolton asian accent actually. it's a general english asia muslim accent, hard to pinpoint. you are asking me to ignore my eyes as well as my ears and believe some entries on google and wikipedia. unfortuanetely i am not that deaf and blind and refuse to be.
@seekknowledge9 i still think it's no coincidence that this man looks 100% pakistani, has a british pakistani acccent, not a greek british one. thats why i still need proof. surely you yourself will agree with that. definitely at least he was brought up alongside other pakistani friends.
@seekknowledge9 yes i watched the film. the guy in the video is at least a bit greek cypriot looking, though he does look a bit egyptian, possibly pakistani. however Hamza looks and sounds fully pakistani to me. i cannot say for certain Hamza is a pakistani, but even considering the small chance that he is greek, he was probably forced into hanging around with other pakistanis anyway from an early age because of his looks anyway, thats maybe how he developed the pakistani-english accent.
@seekknowledge9 yes i watched the film. the guy in the video is at least a bit greek cypriot looking, though he does look a bit egyptian, maybe pakistani. however Hamza looks and sounds fully pakistani to me. i cannot say for certain Hamza is a pakistani, but even considering the small chance that he is greek, he was probably forced into hanging around with other pakistanis anyway from an early age because of his looks anyway, thats maybe how he developed the pakistani-english accent.
In sura 5:69, the title al Sabioon, referring to the Sabians, should be written al Sabieen.
In sura 63:10, the phrase "I shall be" is written akun (which is in the 3rd person?). Yet since this word refers to the future (& is in the 1st person) it should be written akunu. In sura 3:59, the words Kun feekunu should be written, Kun fakaana.
There are other grammatical errors which exist in the Qur'an as well, such as: suras 2:192; 13:28; 20:66 and the duals which replace the plurals in sura 55.
In sura 2:177, the word Sabireen should be Sabiroon because of its position in the sentence (since it is a human plural, it should remain in the masculine plural form?).
In sura 7:160, the phrase "We divided them into twelve tribes," is written in the feminine plural: Uthnati Ashrat Asbaataan. Due to the fact that it refers to a number of people, it should be written in the masculine plural form: Uthaiy Ashara Sibtaan, as all human plurals are automatically male in Arabic.
I quote a Muslim scholar; "The Qur'an contains sentences which are incomplete + not fully intelligible without the aid of commentaries; foreign words, words used with other than the normal meaning, unfamiliar Arabic words, adjectives and verbs inflected without observance of the concords of gender and number; illogically and ungrammatically applied pronouns which sometimes have no referent... more than one hundred Qur'anic aberrations from Arabic have been noted." (Dashti, 23 Years, pgs.48-50)
The Qur'an says that the calf worshipped by the Israelites at mount Horeb was molded by a Samaritan (sura 20:85-87, 95-97). Yet the term 'Samaritan' was not coined until 722 B.C., which is several hundred years after the events in Exodus. The Samaritans could not have existed during Moses' life, and therefore could not have been responsible. Yusuf Ali, in his footnotes, "bends over backwards" by suggesting that the name could mean "Shemer," which denotes a stranger, or "Shomer," a watchman.
Allah says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heavens were.
Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….
Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth
Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your reckoning
Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.
So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?
Inaccuracies and contradictions in the Quran, all disproved by science:
Quran 7:54 Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 41:9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Quran 41:10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
the quran was written at a time when syro-aramaic was the predominant language, not arabic, so later translations of the quran in pure arabic are not accurate. thats why it is unique - because a large part of it is in syro-aramaic. Tzortis claims it is unlike any arabic piece ever written - arabic was popularized in the 7th century, in the same century the Quran was written. so it was at it's infancy, of course it would be unique compared to other arabic/modern arabic pieces.
he behaves like an opinionated asshole who thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. he's an argumentative fool who is a liar because he is an arab quite clearly, in appearance, anyone can see his face looks arabic yet he says he is greek. he also has a british asian accent. he behaves like he is god, when he is a little petulant child.
I argue that he is close minded in that he already eliminated the possibility for there to exist alternative explanations about our problems before he actually came to the conclusion that "god only knows".
The problem with a secular society is that it does not tolerate minorities that want to destroy it. Is Tzortzis serious?
Just because Arabs 1000 years ago were scientists does not mean you need to accept that an embryo starts as dust and a drop of blood in today's Islamic scripture.
@StopSpamming1 I agree. The reasoning here is not sound. He prides him self in logic, but fails to examine his own very simple projections.
He also argues that we can't unify by state or nationalities anymore so we have to unify by religious belief? We can't we unify simply because we are all human on a vessel we called earth. I'm an atheist, and I don't need rules of a book imposed on me to treat others well.
@StopSpamming1 He seems intelligent because he is well articulate and well meaning. That doesn't stop anyone from uttering complete nonsense though.
For instance, in The Big Debate, he incorrectly applied "Occams razor" to relinquishing the burden of proof from his theory. It's such a common misuse of the principle, which needs available data and a valid theory. To date there is simply no valid data to support the existence of God or "his consequentiality" in creating the known universe.
May Allah grant him mercy for his striving
anikenish 2 months ago
What a bullshit. lol
sahandpar 2 months ago
@sahandpar Just coz you didn't understand a word.....
ParisianKiller 1 week ago
@ParisianKiller
Ex-Muslim here and you're wrong, I understood the whole thing, it was bullshit.
sahandpar 1 week ago
@sahandpar To an ex-muslim....of course it is...
ParisianKiller 1 week ago
@ParisianKiller
Aha, that's right, it is pure bullshit.
sahandpar 1 week ago
@sahandpar I understand the wisdom behind executing apostates now. Not only do they become truth rejectors, they also become as rude as the kaafirs, with all their profanity.
freghorn 1 week ago
@freghorn I give your religion as much respect as your religion gives me, there’s nothing complicated about it, and I have every right to insult a religion that goes out of it’s way to insult, to judge, and to condemn me as an inadequate human being, which your religion does with self righteous gusto. When it comes to insults your religion started this, not me. If your religion kept it’s big mouth shut so would I.
sahandpar 1 week ago
@sahandpar My religion does not insult human beings, it rejects the harmful actions that human beings do. It regards those actions as low and foolish. Such actions include sodomy, consumption of alcohol, adultery, fornication, etc. We accept the fact that humans fall into sin, but we regard sins as dirty and harmful. Humans are humans. We don't hate on people, we hate on their actions.
freghorn 6 days ago
I don't think he debates for the right reasons, but it seems he thrives off winning these debates and in many videos arrogance is shown especially when debating and talking to people looks a bit fake to me, i hope im wrong anyway lets leave allah to judge, apart from that i admire his intellect his videos are very powerful and persuasive mashallah.
TheRamboKid1 2 months ago
Religion aside here, Hamza Andreas Tzortzis is an arrogant, nasty bastard. I watched him show his true colours when he utterly dismissed a man asking an honest question in the video "Richard Dawkins meets Hamza the Muslim". Watch it on youtube if you don't believe me. Fuck you, Mr. Tzortzis.
MarvellousMuffin 2 months ago
Funny how there is only 1 "religion" that seems to be always misunderstood and "hijacked".
sirjambo 3 months ago
Yeah, Islam invented everything, you know? The Greeks may have compiled libraries full of art, science, and philosophy several centuries before this hybrid Bedouin Christianity, but reality is just something you must ignore if you, your family, and friends are invested in insanity.
Valelacerte 3 months ago
sure lets co-exist hamza, you can go back to a islam controlled country and be threatened with death and beheading for merely wanting to change religion. if you want to co-exist peacefully then you cant be barbaric. im sure every atheist wants peace as much as you do, but at the cost of what your religion does to people you will never be accepted when your religion is so messed up. islam can be a beautiful religion, dont get me wrong, just fix the horrific bad parts and ull see a huge change.
lawazza 3 months ago
Tzortzis is just another gullible apologist who argues from personal ignorance and does not want to understand that one can't drag a religious text into the realm of science and subject it to scientific scrutiny.
StopSpamming1 3 months ago 2
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LIKWITCREW1 3 months ago
The Quran says a man lived in a fish and that Solomon controlled Jinns WTF? That is in Gods last and final message to man lol You people are all crazy.
BusinessEdgeRadio 4 months ago
he is a cool guy mashallah
MrSmartMuslim 5 months ago
they are organised as propaganda platforms for religious dogma
strangetranceoffaith 6 months ago
handsome brother with so much noor <3 :D mashAllah!
jegerbest89 6 months ago
Sure, let's talk . . ... while we watch islam destroy the world - we've all got a front row seat.
ridemedic 8 months ago
Yes, quite right. A secular society cannot and should not "tolerate minorities who don't want a secular society." Especially when said minority demands a way of life completely at odds with The International Bill of Human Rights.
blackmore4 9 months ago
Did Ed Buckner convert? Or admit to Agnosticism?
N4RVS 10 months ago
we do not speak with the devil ,,, that is oane of teological fundaments
szabomihaiemil 1 year ago
@szabomihaiemil i dont think i'm the devil. i've helped many people before in my life, but if thats your opinion..... i'm just angry with Hamza because he uses dirty tactics by accusing Ed buckner of cussing his mother to look like the victim and trying to make Ed angry, and acts as if Peter cave insulted him to get the crowd on his side. he also raises his voice over his opponent all the time. but you should learn how to spell in english.
DanGRtheMan 11 months ago
I am Greek and ISRAEL SUPPORTER
paoceltic 1 year ago
@paoceltic go fuck yourself, malaka!
HumD3 9 months ago
He is 100% Greek. Listen to him pronounce his own name.
He lives in hackney which is known for it's multiculturalism, but he has improved his accent greatly over the past couple of years.
I can give more details about his personal life, but does it matter. Why r u in the comments below obsessed with his race?
darklight254 1 year ago
@darklight254 he dont sound greek at all to me, i live with a greek person who only studies in england, and have heard many muslim britons speak as Hamza does. maybe he is part greek, one girl said his grandfather is greek for sure, maybe she's right but he makes it a point to mention in every debate that he is greek or of orthodox heritage, so the debator cannot say "you were born a muslim, thats why you are one". most arabs are muslim - so if he's arab, he's probably a muslim, so he is lying.
DanGRtheMan 11 months ago
@DanGRtheMan I live in England andhave heard white girls/boys speak with Asian British accents. Thus your comment is absurd. If a British white person moves to France at the age of one and lives there his/her whole life there then obviously they will speak French like a native French person would. Open your mind to the world around and not close it to the limited information you posses.
spanpinki 11 months ago
@spanpinki ok, i was angry at hamza when i made those comments cause i think he uses dirty tactics in the debates, accusing ed buckner of insulting his mother so he can look like a victim, acting as if peter cave insulted him, and raising his voice over his opponents all the time. so i tried to pick faults with him, and it seemed a coincidence how he had a british pakistani accent and looked like a pakistani, yet 'pretended' to be a convert. he may be greek or part greek, i don't know.
DanGRtheMan 11 months ago
@DanGRtheMan Your comments are still as silly as you first released them. Therefore I suggest you travel more.
spanpinki 11 months ago
@spanpinki well, thats your opinion
DanGRtheMan 11 months ago
@DanGRtheMan Actually my opinion can be proven with fact,unlike yours.
spanpinki 11 months ago
@spanpinki well, i didn't say he's definitely arab, i said he is very likely to be considering the coincidences. so i dont claim my opinion is fact. you say my comments are silly, that can't be proven with fact. THAT is your opinion. but perhaps your comment that you have met white english people with asian accents is true, and yes that can be proven. anyway, silly argument.
DanGRtheMan 11 months ago
@DanGRtheMan BTW I know Greeks(100%) and some of them have posh accents and they look middle-eastern (Which they are). Honestly race is just a division humans have created.
spanpinki 11 months ago
@DanGRtheMan
His parents are greek and cypriot, he grew up in Hackney, London, he isn't Asian at all. He reverted to Islam around 8 years ago
Justconveythemessage 10 months ago
@darklight254 thats the only reason i'm mentioning his race - because he mentions it all the time to make it a point that he converted to islam, but if he is arab, then he is probably lying about being a convert since most arabs are muslim.
DanGRtheMan 11 months ago
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DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
islam and the quran also believes homosexuality is wrong and unnatural, when scientists have proven that gay men are born with female like brains in male bodies and vice versa for lesbian women. So it is natural, and therefore the quran and islam is demonising something natural. is Hamza saying if he doesnt have islam, he will go around raping and murdering? If so, he is a sick freak and a disgusting man, on top of the other prouncements i've made on him. i dont go harming innocent people.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
@DanGRtheMan In the ancient times scienteists confirmed the earth was flat...
spanpinki 11 months ago
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DanGRtheMan 11 months ago
@DanGRtheMan You're funny ;)
Etiros 10 months ago
When Tzortis debates, he uses dirty tactics like trying to get his opponent to insult him and making his opponent out to be a bad person, performing for the crowd, raising his voice above his opponents and feigning mock hurt, claiming that he is being insulted. He does not debate purely on the comparison of truths between the ideas he is trying to propogate and his opponent is.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
the quran and islam does not believe in evolution, the big bang and many other scientific truths so why does he claim the quran is so perfect, true and real?
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
this man has arab facial features - he looks like a british pakistani and has a british asian accent. any arab will tell you this man looks arab and yet he says he is greek, what a fraud.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
@DanGRtheMan actually, he is Greek. You can search his name on google (or wikipedia). His parents are Greek (Orthodox I assume), and he is a convert to Islam. Many Greeks (atleast from Cyproits) does look Arab or Pakistanis..
seekknowledge9 1 year ago 2
@seekknowledge9 i need to see proof of this, yes some greeks and cypriots look part turkish, even part arab, but this guy looks fully arab, in fact, of pakistani arabic descent specifically, with no european blood. he also has a london asian accent, i know because i was brought up in london knowing some asians. there might be a chance his european parents gave birth to an fully arab looking child but this is rare. he claims he is from there, but without proof, I can only still assume he's lying.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
@seekknowledge9 i also have greek and many cypriot friends, some look part turkish and even part arab yes, but as i repeat, this guy looks like an eastern arab from the pakistan area.
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seekknowledge9 1 year ago
@seekknowledge9 are you tellng me you believe whats written in wikipedia/google to be true? he could/would have edited those entries himself or someone would have written he's greek on his behalf. im telling you he looks 100% pakistani arab and 0% european/greek/cypriot himself and most likely has arab genes. unless i see his birth certificate with his parents greek surnames on it and a photo of his greek looking parents i will not believe what google says about him. i need more proof.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
@DanGRtheMan Looks are decieveing.
spanpinki 11 months ago
his accent actually sounds like amir khan's (the boxer) bolton asian accent actually. it's a general english asia muslim accent, hard to pinpoint. you are asking me to ignore my eyes as well as my ears and believe some entries on google and wikipedia. unfortuanetely i am not that deaf and blind and refuse to be.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
@seekknowledge9 i still think it's no coincidence that this man looks 100% pakistani, has a british pakistani acccent, not a greek british one. thats why i still need proof. surely you yourself will agree with that. definitely at least he was brought up alongside other pakistani friends.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
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@seekknowledge9 yes i watched the film. the guy in the video is at least a bit greek cypriot looking, though he does look a bit egyptian, possibly pakistani. however Hamza looks and sounds fully pakistani to me. i cannot say for certain Hamza is a pakistani, but even considering the small chance that he is greek, he was probably forced into hanging around with other pakistanis anyway from an early age because of his looks anyway, thats maybe how he developed the pakistani-english accent.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
@seekknowledge9 yes i watched the film. the guy in the video is at least a bit greek cypriot looking, though he does look a bit egyptian, maybe pakistani. however Hamza looks and sounds fully pakistani to me. i cannot say for certain Hamza is a pakistani, but even considering the small chance that he is greek, he was probably forced into hanging around with other pakistanis anyway from an early age because of his looks anyway, thats maybe how he developed the pakistani-english accent.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
In sura 5:69, the title al Sabioon, referring to the Sabians, should be written al Sabieen.
In sura 63:10, the phrase "I shall be" is written akun (which is in the 3rd person?). Yet since this word refers to the future (& is in the 1st person) it should be written akunu. In sura 3:59, the words Kun feekunu should be written, Kun fakaana.
There are other grammatical errors which exist in the Qur'an as well, such as: suras 2:192; 13:28; 20:66 and the duals which replace the plurals in sura 55.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
In sura 2:177, the word Sabireen should be Sabiroon because of its position in the sentence (since it is a human plural, it should remain in the masculine plural form?).
In sura 7:160, the phrase "We divided them into twelve tribes," is written in the feminine plural: Uthnati Ashrat Asbaataan. Due to the fact that it refers to a number of people, it should be written in the masculine plural form: Uthaiy Ashara Sibtaan, as all human plurals are automatically male in Arabic.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
I quote a Muslim scholar; "The Qur'an contains sentences which are incomplete + not fully intelligible without the aid of commentaries; foreign words, words used with other than the normal meaning, unfamiliar Arabic words, adjectives and verbs inflected without observance of the concords of gender and number; illogically and ungrammatically applied pronouns which sometimes have no referent... more than one hundred Qur'anic aberrations from Arabic have been noted." (Dashti, 23 Years, pgs.48-50)
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
The Qur'an says that the calf worshipped by the Israelites at mount Horeb was molded by a Samaritan (sura 20:85-87, 95-97). Yet the term 'Samaritan' was not coined until 722 B.C., which is several hundred years after the events in Exodus. The Samaritans could not have existed during Moses' life, and therefore could not have been responsible. Yusuf Ali, in his footnotes, "bends over backwards" by suggesting that the name could mean "Shemer," which denotes a stranger, or "Shomer," a watchman.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
Allah says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heavens were.
Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….
Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?
Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your reckoning
Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.
So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
Inaccuracies and contradictions in the Quran, all disproved by science:
Quran 7:54 Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 41:9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Quran 41:10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
the quran was written at a time when syro-aramaic was the predominant language, not arabic, so later translations of the quran in pure arabic are not accurate. thats why it is unique - because a large part of it is in syro-aramaic. Tzortis claims it is unlike any arabic piece ever written - arabic was popularized in the 7th century, in the same century the Quran was written. so it was at it's infancy, of course it would be unique compared to other arabic/modern arabic pieces.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
he behaves like an opinionated asshole who thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. he's an argumentative fool who is a liar because he is an arab quite clearly, in appearance, anyone can see his face looks arabic yet he says he is greek. he also has a british asian accent. he behaves like he is god, when he is a little petulant child.
DanGRtheMan 1 year ago
I argue that he is close minded in that he already eliminated the possibility for there to exist alternative explanations about our problems before he actually came to the conclusion that "god only knows".
Trickndel 1 year ago
The problem with a secular society is that it does not tolerate minorities that want to destroy it. Is Tzortzis serious?
Just because Arabs 1000 years ago were scientists does not mean you need to accept that an embryo starts as dust and a drop of blood in today's Islamic scripture.
StopSpamming1 1 year ago
@StopSpamming1 I agree. The reasoning here is not sound. He prides him self in logic, but fails to examine his own very simple projections.
He also argues that we can't unify by state or nationalities anymore so we have to unify by religious belief? We can't we unify simply because we are all human on a vessel we called earth. I'm an atheist, and I don't need rules of a book imposed on me to treat others well.
Peace.
Trickndel 1 year ago
@Trickndel
Exactly. What is funny is that he seems intelligent yet blocks out his rational thinking and uses weak premisses as a base.
StopSpamming1 1 year ago
@StopSpamming1 He seems intelligent because he is well articulate and well meaning. That doesn't stop anyone from uttering complete nonsense though.
For instance, in The Big Debate, he incorrectly applied "Occams razor" to relinquishing the burden of proof from his theory. It's such a common misuse of the principle, which needs available data and a valid theory. To date there is simply no valid data to support the existence of God or "his consequentiality" in creating the known universe.
Trickndel 1 year ago
I am a big fan of you hamza........you really destroyed him on the debate
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atifafsar 1 year ago
I am a big fan of you hamza........you really destroyed him on the debate.
atifafsar 1 year ago
May AllahSWT bless him with etrnal bliss in Akhirah, Ameen
flekist23i 1 year ago 20
This brother just destroyed the other guy in the debate
darkshadow515 1 year ago 25
@darkshadow515 Is it on youtube?
mehr1n 6 months ago
@mehr1n Yes it is on Youtube.
Search" Debate: Islam or Athiesm with Hamza Tzortiz and Dr. Ed Buckner"
Its a 2 hour debate, you will easily be able to tell who is winning and who is losing
darkshadow515 6 months ago
@darkshadow515 JazakAllah khayr!
mehr1n 6 months ago
He's name is Spanish but he looks Pakistani.
snoiprocs16 1 year ago
@snoiprocs16 Yeah but oddly enough the brother is of Greek heritage. His Grandfather looks white with blue eyes. Masha'Allah
Amelfan 1 year ago
@Amelfan I see, so Andreas and Tzortzis is a Greek name. Thanx.
snoiprocs16 1 year ago
he did well in his debate. good luk 4 islam. inshallah
Flyboi6694 1 year ago 2
he is such a cool guy i love him!
LekiiLekii 1 year ago