Alan Grayson has my vote on ANYTHING - he's among the most intelligent, articulate, clear sighted individual''s on the american political stage. I'd jump on board to promote any campaign this man is running. And I always groan when Bill has O'Rourke on - such a bag of hot, useless air. Navywxman nailed it, he said it all.
Grayson was the one guest who had something intelligent to say and voiced the vast majority of people. The others were a waste of oxygen and airtime, going out of their way to belittle and demean a movement that has voiced the anger, fears, and concerns of the majority of the people who make up this country. That shows their absolute abdication of any legitimacy they may have had before they opened their mouths. Pathetic, cheap insults does not make an argument. Great job Grayson, thank you!!
@SPRoubi2020 It was only one district in Orlando. This year he is running in a newly created district which has a Democratic majority, so the chances are pretty good he is going to be back in the next Congress.
@SPRoubi2020 Florida has a chance to redeem itself. I think Florida's conservative movement is in its death throws, and they know it. That's why they elected a right wing ass clown and convicted felon Rick Scott. The people in the panhandle can't get over the fact that more Hispanics are moving in, and more old rust belt working class people are retiring there, making the state favor democrats. It's ok, they'll get beaten off like every other right wing virus.
@aaronmoravek You mean like how you "facistly" pay for highways, police, fire dept., sewage, etc etc right now? Stop listening to Republican idiocy. Theres a long list of countries that have universal healthcare that arent "fascist". Republicans are trying to scare you and its working.
@bol316 That is totally different apart from construction, these departments are theoretically completely owned by the community(and most communities do control and own these departments) the fascism comes from the corporate contractors. But if you go by fascism as merger of corporation and state then Barack Obama is the most fascist president in the history of the U.S, but I feel Sorry for u that u still think there is much difference between the two parties.For you are a little sheep
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O'Rourke's a braying moron. His only job is to pour scorn on people out in the streets protesting the Wall St crime syndicate. Why do people buy this man's shitty publications?
The right wing love to prove how completely pig ignorant they are, instead of looking at the real problem OWS is complaining about they sit and say "where do they go to the bathroom" and "they need a spokes man" but the message couldn't be clearer and if you are too dumb to understand it then it's nobody's fault but your own.
@DiagramOfTruth how so? Oh right, you are probably a right winger so you don't actually have any facts you just spew BS. how is Grayson full of shit? please explain
you make yourself sound like a fucking idiot by assuming that i am a hardcore close-minded right wing conservative. do you throw everyone into that category that disagrees with you? are you 16? jeeeesus.
if Grayson were to raise to any type of power in this country, he would retract his statements or go against what he is saying here. this country is controlled; that's that, bro.
PJ O'Rourke is clueless. He should take his bongo drum to Nicolle Wallace' port-O-pottie and try to pull each others heads out of their respective asses.
I like Grayson a lot! But my liberal friends need to stop making silly comments about 50 million people not being able to feed themselves. While I'm sure there are some families that go hungry in this country, the vast, vast majority of low-income people get food stamps, and it seems that the poorer the state, the fatter the people. Poor people aren't starving, but they may be forced to eat cheap, fatty foods (but there is a difference).
50 million cant feed themselves? if govt. got out of the way and stopped suing BOEING for making a factory to employee people maybe they could feed themselves.
"They're complaining about the fact that Wall Street wrecked the economy three years ago and nobody's been held responsible for that, not a single person indicted or convicted." Impressive in its brevity, but if this is what Occupy was about they'd have no trouble articulating it. They would also be able to nominate who they want convicted and on what charge. They would also have tried this through the courts first. They would also not be demanding free education and alternative energies. Etc.
@greeleyman I'd take either one of them as president. Actually, I would like to have 8 years of each. Elizabeth Warren vocalized the argument I've been making for about 12 years when rich asshole bitch about having to pay more taxes. The wealthy must pay more because they consume far more resources, and are only able to be wealthy because they have infrastructure and an educated populace. Not to mention police (fed and state) keeping angry people from stealing their shit.
Get secret money out of politics. End corporate personhood. Kill the OTC derivative market. Outlaw credit default swaps.
That's more or less what OWS is about, from top to bottom. If these retards don't understand that because tv news actors didn't spoon feed it to them due to corporate media bias, that means nothing beyond being simple ignorance.
Alan Grayson couldn't carry PJ O'Rourke's jockstrap. Grayson talks the typical Occupier rhetoric to the usual libtards in Maher's audience, but he is just a less psychotic version of Jesse Ventura. He couldn't create a job if his life depended on it.
When is the last time a Tea Party member crapped on a police car? When has the there been a rape at a Tea Party? Felony assaults? Vandalism? Destruction of public/private property? Arson? Theft? Oh yes. Grayson for the win!
@Mathenaut Hey dipshit. The guy who shot congresslady Giffords was a self described Communist. And you really want to compare crime committed at tea party protests to crime at OWS protests?
Hated Democrats, called people 'terrorists' for getting abortions, government conspiracy theorist that targeted someone on the 'crosshairs' list of Sarah Palin - And he's a Communist?
@Mathenaut Lol. Your an idiot. Everything that you've just mentioned can still be done as a communist... As to hating dems - because he wanted them to be more left wing and more authoritarian? Does that not make sense?
Far right radical acting on the words of a far right radical, and you're insisting that he is a communist because....Oh, not anything he actually said, you're just ignorantly summarizing his beliefs as 'communism'.
You clearly have no understanding of what communism is.
@Mathenaut Not on FOX. But nice assumptions and generalizations anyway. Pretty typical from the liberal intellectuals on Youtube. Again, when is the last time their was ANY violence whatsoever at tea party events? Rapes? Deaths? Assaults? How about OWS?
But when provided with fact, all you seem to say is "BUT! TEA PARTY MEMBERS ARE FOR ASSAULTING OBAMA SUPPORTERS". Your evidence of this, and examples are where?
And I love the hipocritical double standard you are applying without realizing.
OWS is a spontaneous uprising of the lower and middle class, to include many poverty stricken. These aren't problems specific to OWS, these are long persistent problems that are just being seen in their full, ugly light.
Ignorant conservatives are just mad that the problems are shirked back into the corners where they don't have to be aware of them.
I'm sure it would be different if OWS got the corporate astroturfing treatment that the Tea Party did.
Both of the top comments are spot on, that's the funny part. They should've let Alan Grayson talk MORE! That's issue #1, we let the idiots talk for us.
Grayson is always so impressive. Here he is ready with facts and figures at his finger tips. He enumerates what's wrong 1, 2, 3. And he clarifies what OWS is really rightly pissed off about: Why are the real criminals NOT in jail?
The facts of arresting:
Arrests of Banksters: 0
Arrests of OWS protesters: more than 3000
Why is that?
Nicole and PJ left in the dust, her snippy about going to the bathroom and PJ O'Roarke his failed economics. And offering less than riveting opinions.
@yaahme Ending the Fed may help, but electing Ron Paul is like shooting yourself in the head. That man will destroy the US. He is like every other GOP Conservative fascist shill who don't give a shit about people. You want to save the US? Elect someone who will actually create jobs (and hold them to it) for American citizens that pay a decent amount of money. Provide better and more cost effective education to children. Supply free Medicare and Uni-Health Care. And keep FEMA!!!
@AvalonDraconis Ron Paul would withdraw troops from overseas, within limits of treaty commitments, which must be honored (U.S. supplies defense for Saudi Arabia, many other nations). To the extent possible, the U.S. would cease being the world's policeman and plunderer of foreign economies (Iraq, Libya). The U.S. would cease being a WAR/MURDER/PLUNDER economy. President Paul would eradicate foreign aid, essentially bribery too.
Wake up others and stay away from Liberal/ Leftist TV land.
@yaahme Pulling out troops has been a goal of Democrats and Liberals for years. Foreign aid is a good thing when kept in check, too. RP would get rid of the DoE, which is one of THE most moronic things I have ever heard. He also wants to get rid of FEMA, which if something like Katrina ever happened again, too bad to those suffering. He wants states to settle civil rights issues, which hasn't been shown to have a good record. And he wants LESS regulation of companies and banks. RP sucks!
I watched this live and you could just see Grayson getting more and more pissed off as they joked and went on. As for @vonraderjohn, the specific solutions are out there. It's not on the protestors to have solutions, they are average Americans, not financial experts, not policy experts. But the solutions are known - reinstate Glass-Steagall, tighten the regulatory authority of the SEC, start putting these criminals in jail, give them THAT cost-benefit analysis to consider.
Here's the problem with what Grayson's saying. He's saying "here's what's wrong", which is what the OWS protesters are saying. Yes, yes, we all know what's wrong.
But what's your solution? What are you actually pushing for to fix it? You've got to do better than "We are generally unhappy" if you want to create a healthy political movement.
@vonraderjohn Democrats have been trying to push for solutions, yet the GOP have been blocking them for years. Obama has tried repeatedly to get legislation through that would provide for thousands of jobs, and the GOP blocked it. He tried getting heath care passed, and they blocked it. He tried to get clean air legislation passed, and they blocked it. He tried to get better legislation for students, and they blocked it. It is the GOP that are the problem!!!
This lady is a retard! More corporations are sitting on cash reserves in which they are gaining interest on and reflecting on their balance sheets to keep investors happy and interested in a time of crisis. Not to mention the dividends being paid out. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT HIRING, GENIUS
i'm a big fan of maher but this discussion was so boneheaded up until alan grayson stepped in it was frustrating me to no end when i saw it on hbo. and i was so dissapoitned in bill m. for not pointing out to the other clown guests that the message, the propsoals are very very clear, a spokeperson??? what kind of public relations crap are you talking about lady?? its a people's movement not a marketing campaign jeeZ.. i would have hoped bill would have had more sense to defend the movement
sure wish I could hear this - or have subtitles!!!! it irks me that people who post on youtube have so little consideration for us hearing impaired and deaf people!
@bevcat33 he said. "Not a single person has been indicted or convicted for destroying 20 percent of our national net worth accumulated over the course of two centuries. They're upset about the fact that Wall Street has iron control over the economic policies of this country. And that one party is a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall Street. And the other party caters to them as well. That's what they're upset about."
O'Rourke and the rest of Maher's clown guests are so clueless they appear to be morons. It would be interesting to see the career experience of that wad of fools. Outside of Grayson, I suspect none of them have ever had a real job. No, being a quacking fool on Fox is not a real job.
In case anybody's interested in actual facts, the McDonald's right next-door lets us use the bathroom for free and actually gets quite a bit of business out of it. Zucotti Park is pretty clean. Also, anyone who wants to know what the protest is about should walk around it and see what most of the signs say. We don't need a spokesperson.
@Spiderhoot Apparently you do...because nobody knows what you want. The only voices that come through are the absurd ones that make a good tv spot...full blown communists and radicals.
Most Americans don't currently live in New York, nor do they have any desire to.
orouke is an absolute asshat. Congrats Grayson for standing up to that idiot and his tactic of belittling others. When someone can't make a reasonable point they either concede or act like a child. orourke is a child
P.J. O'Rourke is a pompous, blowhard, a-hole. He doesn't give a crap about anyone else not having health insurance or being jobless. He has great health insurance, and a job (who knows for how long), so why should HE care about anyone else?! Ugh! I can't stand that guy.
anyone notice O'Rourke doesn't provide one fact in defense of his position? He's all sarcastic bluster because he knows he doesn't have an actual answer....what a douche
please please alan run for president and appoint bill as vice president so we democrates can get free blowjobs from his wife or sister or whoever bill is banging . and alan you can steal whatever money the republicans have and give it to george soros so he can round up the rest of the jews so they can finish slautering them. please please please have obama destroy america like he promised he would. Oh and by the way where is my damn welfare check my ho's are hungry
Y is it, wen ppl 'tell it like it is' + 'put the blame where it lies' that there's always sum arsehole 'denigr8ing them' or referring 2 them as 'conspiracy theorists' etc., as a way of shutting them down. If we don't unite, we lose what little is left of our freedom. I am an Australian, which is supposedly a 'democractic country' and yet, 'voting is compulsory' which is an 'oxymoron' and, in part describes most Aussies, who are morons. U get the Govt U deserve + we have ours.
P.J. O'Rourke is an a-s-s-h-o-l-e. he isn't funny. he's not even witty. he isn't well informed. he isn't articulate or insightful. i'm always glad to see right wingers on the show (david brooks or david frum or matt kibbe), but christ, bill, fuck that douchebag.
P.J. O'Rourke is sad. I'm guessing that he's a personal friend of Bill Maher's, because I remember seeing his previous appearance on this show and O'Rourke was obviously drunk and unintelligible.
Free market is like a pet, you either tame it so it behaves or you can let it crap all over the carpet and mess up your home.
The U.S currently have a pet that craps all over the carpet and think it owns the place. However unlike a pet we cannot toss it away nor hire a dog whisperer.
So until the day the people show them who is the boss, they will keep doing it until one day they will run away with your wallet/purse.
Alan Grayson is to self important. It's just politics and I guarantee if Bill Maher didn't interrupt PJ he would have ran circles around Grayson. Thank God Grayson will always be able to get a job as loud mouth politician.
In 1994, when the Democrats lost Congress, those who lost went away and never came back. Now, a lot of Democrats who lost in 2010 are vying to get either their old jobs back or a new one. That's how you fight, people!
According to his campaign website, Grayson is running for office in 2012. He supports Occupy Wall Street and agrees with their position against the big bad Wall Streeters. Yet he's currently founding a hedge fund. Wow. He makes Mitt Romney look consistent.
Man! It's SO good to hear from Alan Grayson AGAIN! They "the media" was keeping him WAY in the back from view & ear shot & this interview is why. Since Alan came on the scene back in 08' from Florida I believe, he's been calling folks OUT & taking names. In this footage Alan speaks TRUTH, FACTS, & Hard Evidence of what we Americans that struggle see everyday. Then this "what do they hope to accomplish" speech is not only condescending it's totally arrogant! Oh & PJO Rourke have another drink!
i seriously wonder what people do with hundreds of millions of dollars. the amount of profit apple is making, how about using american labour instead of giving money to the chinese.
at first glance,i see a panel of individuals who seem poised for an educated debate......then at the end of the clip,the words "one of these things is not like the others"smashes into my skull!!! I hope u and ur fucking piece of shit family gets hit by a bus,o'rourke......u fucking treasonous gangster-wanna-be.Ur royal-family/banker cartel masters are just using u.in the end,tho,ur going 2 get the same treatment as the rest of us....stay on ur knees n keep licking boots,retard
You are the 99% Capitalism is based on greed, exploitation, and competition-Socialism is an enlightened progressive system based on cooperation, and mutual respect.
Being anti Israel IS NOT anti-semetic! the occupy wall street movement is not anti Jew but anti Israel! Israel is worse than the corruption in America. Stop listening to the brainwash channels: fox news and cnn. Tune into BBC and Aljazeera english. commondreams org truthdig com Kpfk radio.
Grayson was awesome. But look at the rest. It's sickening. Remember what they all said, and how they said it, on that show, when, as the movement gains strength, they all inevitably fall on our side. Most of them aren't, and will never be, on our side out of decency but because we remind them of our strength and hold them accountable.
" Oh, but they don't organize their toilet-using schedule cleanly enough! And they haven't degenerated into a quasi-cult devoted to a great LEADER with a well defined ideology! How dare they not marginalize themselves! We can't talk about popular demands of reasonable reforms, we need a rockstar! Why haven't they come up with detailed solutions? I sure don't ever call the IT guy before I know exactly how to fix the problem. "
what the! the lousy out of tune questions this woman asks......how can "educated" people still be this clueless? how? the world is in the eye of the storm, this economical model has NO FUTURE, failure of the rotten monetary paradigm, and needless to say the babbling jackall o'Rourke on the other side is simply just useless. The poor minds we're still dealing with. Thank Grayson for occupying his mind :)
Alan Grayson has my vote on ANYTHING - he's among the most intelligent, articulate, clear sighted individual''s on the american political stage. I'd jump on board to promote any campaign this man is running. And I always groan when Bill has O'Rourke on - such a bag of hot, useless air. Navywxman nailed it, he said it all.
MsKnowgirl 23 hours ago
pj O`Rourke is an ass, and he showed it right here cant shut his trp long enough to hear the truth
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This video should be part of high school civic instruction. I LOVE Alan Grayson.
dcgrrl321 1 day ago
This video should be part of high school civic instruction. I LOVE Alan Grayson.
dcgrrl321 1 day ago
Grayson was the one guest who had something intelligent to say and voiced the vast majority of people. The others were a waste of oxygen and airtime, going out of their way to belittle and demean a movement that has voiced the anger, fears, and concerns of the majority of the people who make up this country. That shows their absolute abdication of any legitimacy they may have had before they opened their mouths. Pathetic, cheap insults does not make an argument. Great job Grayson, thank you!!
Navywxman 1 day ago 6
I love how Alan bitch-slapped PJ O'Rourke
Deepbluhuntr 1 day ago 4
Fuck you, Florida for not reelecting this guy.
SPRoubi2020 2 days ago 2
@SPRoubi2020 It was only one district in Orlando. This year he is running in a newly created district which has a Democratic majority, so the chances are pretty good he is going to be back in the next Congress.
jayraskin 1 day ago
@jayraskin I hope he gets reelected. By the way I stay in Jacksonville due to my job.
SPRoubi2020 14 hours ago
@SPRoubi2020 Is Jacksonville part of his new district? If so, lucky you. I'd love the opportunity to vote for Grayson, but alas, I'm from Illinois.
Newenlightenmentnow 13 hours ago
@SPRoubi2020 Florida has a chance to redeem itself. I think Florida's conservative movement is in its death throws, and they know it. That's why they elected a right wing ass clown and convicted felon Rick Scott. The people in the panhandle can't get over the fact that more Hispanics are moving in, and more old rust belt working class people are retiring there, making the state favor democrats. It's ok, they'll get beaten off like every other right wing virus.
Newenlightenmentnow 13 hours ago
O Rourke is such a fool. Why would anyone punish their audience by subjecting them to his idoicy? O Rourke is a scumbag neocon idiot.
Twostones00 1 week ago 4
Grayson rocked it, but his tie is hideous!
MrJDylka 1 week ago
Wallace looking good
MrRinalj09 2 weeks ago
As far a demicrats go Alan Grayson is a good one even though he wants to facistly force everyone to pay for healthcare
aaronmoravek 2 weeks ago
@aaronmoravek You mean like how you "facistly" pay for highways, police, fire dept., sewage, etc etc right now? Stop listening to Republican idiocy. Theres a long list of countries that have universal healthcare that arent "fascist". Republicans are trying to scare you and its working.
bol316 4 days ago 4
@bol316 That is totally different apart from construction, these departments are theoretically completely owned by the community(and most communities do control and own these departments) the fascism comes from the corporate contractors. But if you go by fascism as merger of corporation and state then Barack Obama is the most fascist president in the history of the U.S, but I feel Sorry for u that u still think there is much difference between the two parties.For you are a little sheep
aaronmoravek 4 days ago
This sow was Palin's campaign manager. Who is she? Another fool, who is now a "pundit."
louisrr01 4 weeks ago
i understand him perfectly. people want free things, and that is call thief.
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Carzocat1999 1 month ago
I have such a crush on him! : )
IstahilIB 1 month ago
Alan Grayson needs to be elected as President.
anikinippon 1 month ago 3
O'Rourke's a braying moron. His only job is to pour scorn on people out in the streets protesting the Wall St crime syndicate. Why do people buy this man's shitty publications?
ivangrozny27 1 month ago 2
@ivangrozny27 The same reason why O'Reilly's books become best sellers.
armidas200 1 month ago
The right wing love to prove how completely pig ignorant they are, instead of looking at the real problem OWS is complaining about they sit and say "where do they go to the bathroom" and "they need a spokes man" but the message couldn't be clearer and if you are too dumb to understand it then it's nobody's fault but your own.
Dahgrostabphri 1 month ago
alan grayson is full of shit
DiagramOfTruth 2 months ago
@DiagramOfTruth how so? Oh right, you are probably a right winger so you don't actually have any facts you just spew BS. how is Grayson full of shit? please explain
Dahgrostabphri 1 month ago
@Dahgrostabphri just..stop...
you make yourself sound like a fucking idiot by assuming that i am a hardcore close-minded right wing conservative. do you throw everyone into that category that disagrees with you? are you 16? jeeeesus.
if Grayson were to raise to any type of power in this country, he would retract his statements or go against what he is saying here. this country is controlled; that's that, bro.
DiagramOfTruth 1 month ago
@DiagramOfTruth your mother too
louisrr01 4 weeks ago
PJ is SO high...
222yeahyeahyeah 2 months ago
PJ O'Rourke is such a dick.
benhadar 2 months ago
"How will they know when they've won?"??? Who is this daffy dame? It's not about win/lose you right wing nut.
duellg 2 months ago
Bill Maher is too nice to idiots (like the one sitting next to him)
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PJ O'Rourke reminds me of the "free money" infomercial guy.
drewpluta 2 months ago
PJ O'Rourke reminds me of the "free money" infomercial guy.
drewpluta 2 months ago
Alan Grayson king
sivko23 2 months ago
PJ O'Rourke is clueless. He should take his bongo drum to Nicolle Wallace' port-O-pottie and try to pull each others heads out of their respective asses.
zygotepeyote 2 months ago 4
Nicolle Wallace is a cunt...period!
zygotepeyote 2 months ago 3
nicole wallace is a vapid waste of time
lextalionis2001 2 months ago 22
@lextalionis2001 I'd give it to her in the ass though.
Scottishnongolfer1 4 days ago
I like Grayson a lot! But my liberal friends need to stop making silly comments about 50 million people not being able to feed themselves. While I'm sure there are some families that go hungry in this country, the vast, vast majority of low-income people get food stamps, and it seems that the poorer the state, the fatter the people. Poor people aren't starving, but they may be forced to eat cheap, fatty foods (but there is a difference).
mlc2005 2 months ago
50 million cant feed themselves? if govt. got out of the way and stopped suing BOEING for making a factory to employee people maybe they could feed themselves.
PInk77W1 2 months ago
obama got more money from wall st. than anybody.
PInk77W1 2 months ago
the govt. wrecked the economy
PInk77W1 2 months ago
the jobs arent disappearing, obama is chasing them away.
PInk77W1 2 months ago
Grayson for President!!!
HunaN1seventeen 3 months ago
"They're complaining about the fact that Wall Street wrecked the economy three years ago and nobody's been held responsible for that, not a single person indicted or convicted." Impressive in its brevity, but if this is what Occupy was about they'd have no trouble articulating it. They would also be able to nominate who they want convicted and on what charge. They would also have tried this through the courts first. They would also not be demanding free education and alternative energies. Etc.
hayesism 3 months ago
Mr. Grayson thank you for talking about the Federal Reserve and educating the rest of that ignorant panel.
Ron Paul 2012
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dcolemanut 3 months ago
O' Rourke is a douche. Alan Grayson kicks ass!!!
goldenthroat86 3 months ago
Alan Grayson is the man. The world so needs people like him.
lyndasabian 3 months ago 3
Alan Grayson would be a great Vice President for Elizabeth Warren
greeleyman 3 months ago 26
@greeleyman Amen!!!
dubmaster53 3 months ago
@greeleyman Seriously, thank you for bringing that up! =)
schmuck924 2 weeks ago
@greeleyman I'd take either one of them as president. Actually, I would like to have 8 years of each. Elizabeth Warren vocalized the argument I've been making for about 12 years when rich asshole bitch about having to pay more taxes. The wealthy must pay more because they consume far more resources, and are only able to be wealthy because they have infrastructure and an educated populace. Not to mention police (fed and state) keeping angry people from stealing their shit.
Newenlightenmentnow 13 hours ago
Don't go after the little deviants. Go after the REAL cause: The Federal Reserve and Worldwide Central Banking!!!
swizzlecheeks 3 months ago
4.25 how stupid is this woman
evil999 3 months ago
I detest PJ O'Rourke.
monroeward 3 months ago
Get secret money out of politics. End corporate personhood. Kill the OTC derivative market. Outlaw credit default swaps.
That's more or less what OWS is about, from top to bottom. If these retards don't understand that because tv news actors didn't spoon feed it to them due to corporate media bias, that means nothing beyond being simple ignorance.
xyzoneon 3 months ago 6
Nicole talks about bathrooms. No credibility!
zygotepeyote 3 months ago
PJ O'Rourke needs to educate himself so he doesn't look like an uneducated loser when he speaks.
zygotepeyote 3 months ago
for an author what kind of initial question is where do they go to the bathroom. it's so irrelevant.
SLCforLIFE 3 months ago
Alan Grayson couldn't carry PJ O'Rourke's jockstrap. Grayson talks the typical Occupier rhetoric to the usual libtards in Maher's audience, but he is just a less psychotic version of Jesse Ventura. He couldn't create a job if his life depended on it.
When is the last time a Tea Party member crapped on a police car? When has the there been a rape at a Tea Party? Felony assaults? Vandalism? Destruction of public/private property? Arson? Theft? Oh yes. Grayson for the win!
highspinal 3 months ago
@highspinal
Tea Party members are more for assaulting Obama supporters, criminal harassment of doctors, and shooting congressmen. So much better.
Nice stance against Grayson, too. He's wrong because he agrees with people you don't like.
Stay classy, conservatives.
Mathenaut 3 months ago
@Mathenaut Hey dipshit. The guy who shot congresslady Giffords was a self described Communist. And you really want to compare crime committed at tea party protests to crime at OWS protests?
1985nyg 3 months ago
@1985nyg
Hated Democrats, called people 'terrorists' for getting abortions, government conspiracy theorist that targeted someone on the 'crosshairs' list of Sarah Palin - And he's a Communist?
Get off Fox.
Mathenaut 3 months ago
@Mathenaut Lol. Your an idiot. Everything that you've just mentioned can still be done as a communist... As to hating dems - because he wanted them to be more left wing and more authoritarian? Does that not make sense?
parish32 3 months ago
@parish32
Far right radical acting on the words of a far right radical, and you're insisting that he is a communist because....Oh, not anything he actually said, you're just ignorantly summarizing his beliefs as 'communism'.
You clearly have no understanding of what communism is.
Mathenaut 3 months ago
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parish32 3 months ago
@Mathenaut Not on FOX. But nice assumptions and generalizations anyway. Pretty typical from the liberal intellectuals on Youtube. Again, when is the last time their was ANY violence whatsoever at tea party events? Rapes? Deaths? Assaults? How about OWS?
But when provided with fact, all you seem to say is "BUT! TEA PARTY MEMBERS ARE FOR ASSAULTING OBAMA SUPPORTERS". Your evidence of this, and examples are where?
And I love the hipocritical double standard you are applying without realizing.
1985nyg 3 months ago
@1985nyg
OWS is a spontaneous uprising of the lower and middle class, to include many poverty stricken. These aren't problems specific to OWS, these are long persistent problems that are just being seen in their full, ugly light.
Ignorant conservatives are just mad that the problems are shirked back into the corners where they don't have to be aware of them.
I'm sure it would be different if OWS got the corporate astroturfing treatment that the Tea Party did.
Mathenaut 3 months ago
P.J. O'Rourke got Grayson'd.
treid100182 3 months ago 2
Election reform. A 28th amendment forbidding corporate funding of elections.
ElVideolero 3 months ago
Both of the top comments are spot on, that's the funny part. They should've let Alan Grayson talk MORE! That's issue #1, we let the idiots talk for us.
OriginalRipndip 3 months ago 2
Grayson is always so impressive. Here he is ready with facts and figures at his finger tips. He enumerates what's wrong 1, 2, 3. And he clarifies what OWS is really rightly pissed off about: Why are the real criminals NOT in jail?
The facts of arresting:
Arrests of Banksters: 0
Arrests of OWS protesters: more than 3000
Why is that?
Nicole and PJ left in the dust, her snippy about going to the bathroom and PJ O'Roarke his failed economics. And offering less than riveting opinions.
BillSalem 3 months ago 3
Now let's imagine that the audience were armed.
aetrox 3 months ago
O'Rourke is a paid SHILL !
edsweb7 3 months ago 3
PJ O'Rourke wasn't counting on Grayson making him look like a dummy!
Danielle4obama 3 months ago 5
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yaahme 3 months ago
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yaahme 4 months ago
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London Evilz is a great book which analyses how sporadic violence and unrest in London can shape its future. A great read.
mariachidekristen1 4 months ago
Bill Maher still has a show?
ballistic031983 4 months ago
Simple solution - - - End The Fed - - - which is the underlying message and problem.
To do this Elect Ron Paul 2012!
yaahme 4 months ago
@yaahme Ending the Fed may help, but electing Ron Paul is like shooting yourself in the head. That man will destroy the US. He is like every other GOP Conservative fascist shill who don't give a shit about people. You want to save the US? Elect someone who will actually create jobs (and hold them to it) for American citizens that pay a decent amount of money. Provide better and more cost effective education to children. Supply free Medicare and Uni-Health Care. And keep FEMA!!!
AvalonDraconis 4 months ago
@AvalonDraconis Ron Paul would withdraw troops from overseas, within limits of treaty commitments, which must be honored (U.S. supplies defense for Saudi Arabia, many other nations). To the extent possible, the U.S. would cease being the world's policeman and plunderer of foreign economies (Iraq, Libya). The U.S. would cease being a WAR/MURDER/PLUNDER economy. President Paul would eradicate foreign aid, essentially bribery too.
Wake up others and stay away from Liberal/ Leftist TV land.
yaahme 3 months ago
@yaahme Pulling out troops has been a goal of Democrats and Liberals for years. Foreign aid is a good thing when kept in check, too. RP would get rid of the DoE, which is one of THE most moronic things I have ever heard. He also wants to get rid of FEMA, which if something like Katrina ever happened again, too bad to those suffering. He wants states to settle civil rights issues, which hasn't been shown to have a good record. And he wants LESS regulation of companies and banks. RP sucks!
AvalonDraconis 3 months ago
I watched this live and you could just see Grayson getting more and more pissed off as they joked and went on. As for @vonraderjohn, the specific solutions are out there. It's not on the protestors to have solutions, they are average Americans, not financial experts, not policy experts. But the solutions are known - reinstate Glass-Steagall, tighten the regulatory authority of the SEC, start putting these criminals in jail, give them THAT cost-benefit analysis to consider.
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AvalonDraconis 4 months ago
@thasmodious Sorry, that response was for vonraderjohn....
AvalonDraconis 4 months ago
Here's the problem with what Grayson's saying. He's saying "here's what's wrong", which is what the OWS protesters are saying. Yes, yes, we all know what's wrong.
But what's your solution? What are you actually pushing for to fix it? You've got to do better than "We are generally unhappy" if you want to create a healthy political movement.
vonraderjohn 4 months ago
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@vonraderjohn Democrats have been trying to push for solutions, yet the GOP have been blocking them for years. Obama has tried repeatedly to get legislation through that would provide for thousands of jobs, and the GOP blocked it. He tried getting heath care passed, and they blocked it. He tried to get clean air legislation passed, and they blocked it. He tried to get better legislation for students, and they blocked it. It is the GOP that are the problem!!!
AvalonDraconis 4 months ago
Support Alan OWS!
justice79170 4 months ago
P.J if you need a spokes person to point out the problems with Wall Street and the crooks in Senate then your an idiot
justice79170 4 months ago 3
GRAYSON 2016.
jerrypecks 4 months ago
Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders, should run for president.
drumsmetalheavy11 4 months ago 26
@drumsmetalheavy11 Elizabeth Warren needs to be in there!
monroeward 3 months ago 2
haha, i love it, "this is still my show."
NoName21234 4 months ago
Alan Grayson just raped everyone sitting at that table making stupid jokes.
takaiwhiteguy 4 months ago 15
P.J. O'Rourke is a fool. If we donm't start listening to peoples' pain, then the whirlwind is coming.
Boelcke1919 4 months ago 5
P.J O'Rourke got his ass handed to him. I'm sure he'll keep talking out of it forever now.
SmolderingRuin 4 months ago 3
Alana Grayson, I hereby give you the Awesome Award!
35171julie 4 months ago 5
This lady is a retard! More corporations are sitting on cash reserves in which they are gaining interest on and reflecting on their balance sheets to keep investors happy and interested in a time of crisis. Not to mention the dividends being paid out. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT HIRING, GENIUS
junko6969 4 months ago
I'd like to see someone like Peter Joseph or Jacque Fresco on a widely viewed talk show like Bill Maher
goldensleeves 4 months ago
shut up orourke
wateryskipper 4 months ago
o'rourke is overrated.
wateryskipper 4 months ago
1. Why is a leader necessary? This is a people's movement. It's everybody's movement, the 99% is the leader.
2. Alan Grayson is EFF'ing AWESOME!
3. I hope this movement only gets bigger and lasts a lot longer. We need this.
tophu1021 4 months ago 5
The OWS movement needs a voice.. A face a real spokesperson like a "malcom x" or something. Pull people together!
angelmuzik 4 months ago
Has PJ O'Rourke ALWAYS been such a douche bag? And where will it end? With REFORM!
hoosimbim13 4 months ago 5
@hoosimbim13 Uhm, yeah. He used to be satirical and biting but intelligent. Now, he's ...well, none of those things.
TrishfromOhio 4 months ago
LOL, Alan Grayson has it on his face "why the fuck am I here?"
TheRealCMeta 4 months ago
PJ O'Rourke... he's funny like Bob Hope.
HENRYPATRICK1736 4 months ago
i'm a big fan of maher but this discussion was so boneheaded up until alan grayson stepped in it was frustrating me to no end when i saw it on hbo. and i was so dissapoitned in bill m. for not pointing out to the other clown guests that the message, the propsoals are very very clear, a spokeperson??? what kind of public relations crap are you talking about lady?? its a people's movement not a marketing campaign jeeZ.. i would have hoped bill would have had more sense to defend the movement
AnimalFarmDance 4 months ago
sure wish I could hear this - or have subtitles!!!! it irks me that people who post on youtube have so little consideration for us hearing impaired and deaf people!
bevcat33 4 months ago
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@bevcat33 he said. "Not a single person has been indicted or convicted for destroying 20 percent of our national net worth accumulated over the course of two centuries. They're upset about the fact that Wall Street has iron control over the economic policies of this country. And that one party is a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall Street. And the other party caters to them as well. That's what they're upset about."
auntyflamingo 4 months ago
Alan Grayson Kicks Major Ass! Love this man.
shawnasolito 4 months ago 3
O'Rourke and the rest of Maher's clown guests are so clueless they appear to be morons. It would be interesting to see the career experience of that wad of fools. Outside of Grayson, I suspect none of them have ever had a real job. No, being a quacking fool on Fox is not a real job.
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Why do they talk about "them" and "they" as if they themselves are not part of the 99%??
bjm0812 4 months ago
In case anybody's interested in actual facts, the McDonald's right next-door lets us use the bathroom for free and actually gets quite a bit of business out of it. Zucotti Park is pretty clean. Also, anyone who wants to know what the protest is about should walk around it and see what most of the signs say. We don't need a spokesperson.
Spiderhoot 4 months ago 23
@Spiderhoot Apparently you do...because nobody knows what you want. The only voices that come through are the absurd ones that make a good tv spot...full blown communists and radicals.
Most Americans don't currently live in New York, nor do they have any desire to.
bighitter42 3 months ago
thank goodness for alan grayson. talking about where people go to the bathroom. and the dumb people of fl let grayson go. power to ows.
proudbluestaterful 4 months ago 4
orouke is an absolute asshat. Congrats Grayson for standing up to that idiot and his tactic of belittling others. When someone can't make a reasonable point they either concede or act like a child. orourke is a child
awofeiaohakj 4 months ago
P.J. O'Rourke is a pompous, blowhard, a-hole. He doesn't give a crap about anyone else not having health insurance or being jobless. He has great health insurance, and a job (who knows for how long), so why should HE care about anyone else?! Ugh! I can't stand that guy.
yokie52 4 months ago
When did P.J. O Rourke become such a douche bag???
Electrica990 4 months ago 4
HEY! P.J. O.Rourke! HOW'S THAT DICK FEEL!?
InvisibleDiary 4 months ago
anyone notice O'Rourke doesn't provide one fact in defense of his position? He's all sarcastic bluster because he knows he doesn't have an actual answer....what a douche
carcariden 4 months ago 3
Sometimes P.J. O.Rourke is cool but most of the time he needs a punch in the face.
Crazydog7 4 months ago
please please alan run for president and appoint bill as vice president so we democrates can get free blowjobs from his wife or sister or whoever bill is banging . and alan you can steal whatever money the republicans have and give it to george soros so he can round up the rest of the jews so they can finish slautering them. please please please have obama destroy america like he promised he would. Oh and by the way where is my damn welfare check my ho's are hungry
district7NE 4 months ago
Y is it, wen ppl 'tell it like it is' + 'put the blame where it lies' that there's always sum arsehole 'denigr8ing them' or referring 2 them as 'conspiracy theorists' etc., as a way of shutting them down. If we don't unite, we lose what little is left of our freedom. I am an Australian, which is supposedly a 'democractic country' and yet, 'voting is compulsory' which is an 'oxymoron' and, in part describes most Aussies, who are morons. U get the Govt U deserve + we have ours.
beakybabe 4 months ago
P.J. O'Rourke is an a-s-s-h-o-l-e. he isn't funny. he's not even witty. he isn't well informed. he isn't articulate or insightful. i'm always glad to see right wingers on the show (david brooks or david frum or matt kibbe), but christ, bill, fuck that douchebag.
exiledlikecortez 4 months ago
that bitch is dumb as hell....
jayne1245 4 months ago
@jayne1245 - ...but where do they go to the bathroom..., that's the important question and point of discussion, right Nicole?
tracer740 4 months ago 4
P.J. O'Rourke is sad. I'm guessing that he's a personal friend of Bill Maher's, because I remember seeing his previous appearance on this show and O'Rourke was obviously drunk and unintelligible.
phsyan 4 months ago
If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. Occupy and all related is the begining of a solution to our corrupted system.
Proteus6684 4 months ago 4
but where are they going to the bathroom?
atleast grayson talks about the important issues
adrewk 4 months ago 5
Nicole Wallace is an idiot.
RichAdams21 4 months ago 14
Free market is like a pet, you either tame it so it behaves or you can let it crap all over the carpet and mess up your home.
The U.S currently have a pet that craps all over the carpet and think it owns the place. However unlike a pet we cannot toss it away nor hire a dog whisperer.
So until the day the people show them who is the boss, they will keep doing it until one day they will run away with your wallet/purse.
Neosaigo 4 months ago 3
Isn't Wall Street overwhelmingly Jewish?
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TIME TO FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO CHOOSE WHO THEY SUPPORT...
(a) THE 'PEOPLE / OWS' or.... (b) YOUR WALL STREET PIMPS!
12235117657598502586 4 months ago
wow......P.J O'Rourke is such a dickhead
WAAAAAAAAAAAY 4 months ago 45
@WAAAAAAAAAAAY I totally agree!!
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+rebelnarcopolitician+dictators+rulers+etc = DIRTY CAPITALIST SCUM PIGS.
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kopellhinex 3 months ago
Alan Grayson is to self important. It's just politics and I guarantee if Bill Maher didn't interrupt PJ he would have ran circles around Grayson. Thank God Grayson will always be able to get a job as loud mouth politician.
prunofour 4 months ago
In 1994, when the Democrats lost Congress, those who lost went away and never came back. Now, a lot of Democrats who lost in 2010 are vying to get either their old jobs back or a new one. That's how you fight, people!
NoPawn 4 months ago
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there is no point to the protests ASSHOLE!
TheMontydom 4 months ago
According to his campaign website, Grayson is running for office in 2012. He supports Occupy Wall Street and agrees with their position against the big bad Wall Streeters. Yet he's currently founding a hedge fund. Wow. He makes Mitt Romney look consistent.
PropelGrowth 4 months ago
Grayson is a G, pure and simple! Tools like O' Rourke stand no chance debating this guy!
jibsmokestack1 4 months ago 5
Man! It's SO good to hear from Alan Grayson AGAIN! They "the media" was keeping him WAY in the back from view & ear shot & this interview is why. Since Alan came on the scene back in 08' from Florida I believe, he's been calling folks OUT & taking names. In this footage Alan speaks TRUTH, FACTS, & Hard Evidence of what we Americans that struggle see everyday. Then this "what do they hope to accomplish" speech is not only condescending it's totally arrogant! Oh & PJO Rourke have another drink!
ReformedOrder 4 months ago
we like things cheap because we don't get paid the right amount of money for what we do.
seraphimrock 4 months ago
@auroraslaugh whatever characterization you need to pretend you've actually made any point at all (p.s. i don't support obama idiot)
zisel2 4 months ago
i seriously wonder what people do with hundreds of millions of dollars. the amount of profit apple is making, how about using american labour instead of giving money to the chinese.
halflifeproductionz 4 months ago
Go Big Al.. tell em something
Secretdesigncreation 4 months ago
at first glance,i see a panel of individuals who seem poised for an educated debate......then at the end of the clip,the words "one of these things is not like the others"smashes into my skull!!! I hope u and ur fucking piece of shit family gets hit by a bus,o'rourke......u fucking treasonous gangster-wanna-be.Ur royal-family/banker cartel masters are just using u.in the end,tho,ur going 2 get the same treatment as the rest of us....stay on ur knees n keep licking boots,retard
READY2REVOLT2DAY 4 months ago
who's this o'rourke fag?....he sounds and acts like he's fucking pissed out of his tree......have another u dumb fuck!!!!
READY2REVOLT2DAY 4 months ago 4
@READY2REVOLT2DAY the purple nose is a dead giveaway
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Reasonprogress 4 months ago
wow! just wow! the bathroom, really? that's what she's focused on? her stupidity has reached an all new level depth of obtuseness.
hippy26ish 4 months ago
Grayson was awesome. But look at the rest. It's sickening. Remember what they all said, and how they said it, on that show, when, as the movement gains strength, they all inevitably fall on our side. Most of them aren't, and will never be, on our side out of decency but because we remind them of our strength and hold them accountable.
niobolo123 4 months ago
Grayson was, and is, superb! Facts over fiction! What a brilliant kick in the pants to conservatives clinging onto their Toothfairy strategem.
Well done, Grayson!
kennethfrawley 4 months ago
" Oh, but they don't organize their toilet-using schedule cleanly enough! And they haven't degenerated into a quasi-cult devoted to a great LEADER with a well defined ideology! How dare they not marginalize themselves! We can't talk about popular demands of reasonable reforms, we need a rockstar! Why haven't they come up with detailed solutions? I sure don't ever call the IT guy before I know exactly how to fix the problem. "
Silly phonies and talking heads.
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niobolo123 4 months ago
PJ O'Rourke is such an asshole...
rmrkobayashi 4 months ago
Grayson was on fire. And PJ O 'Rourke was a great foil.
peaco1000 4 months ago
what the! the lousy out of tune questions this woman asks......how can "educated" people still be this clueless? how? the world is in the eye of the storm, this economical model has NO FUTURE, failure of the rotten monetary paradigm, and needless to say the babbling jackall o'Rourke on the other side is simply just useless. The poor minds we're still dealing with. Thank Grayson for occupying his mind :)
NAIVADA 4 months ago
Mr. Grayson for President!
camabron1 4 months ago
Thank you, Alan Grayson, for schooling P.J. O.Rourke!
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