@Maolseachlainn1 What a pathetic, sniveling little coward you really are. At least have the balls to post your replies as answers to my comments, not annonymously like this. Yuk, you are beneath contempt and have now completely disqualified yourself - as if THAT were still necessary. Poor Steffi! She deserved better fans than you!
@assindiastignani I truly feel sorry for you. Poor angry little creature. And I didn't intentionally anonymously post a response. I don't usually use these online fora and inadvertently posted incorrectly. Apologies.
@assindiastignani Such a tedious little creature too. And because of that I won't be responding to any more of your excessively boring little replies.
A very classy woman, never bitter despite being robbed of her # 1 status, tennis fans seem much bitter than 'Monica because we miss the 19 year old Monica when she was blasting everyone off the court and on top of the world, you will always be the best player ever in my heart
Poor Monica. Could not resign herself to the fact that Steffi was the better player. Compare head-to-head stats pre-stabbing: Steffi won 6 matches, Seles 4. When Seles was allegedly 'dominating' Steffi from 1991-93: Steffi won 3 matches, Seles 2. Such a pity the FACTS get in the way. The only player 'dominating' the other was Steffi: Wimbledon 1989: Steffi 6-0 61. Wimbledon 1992: Steffi 6-2 6-1. All pre-stabbing. How inconvenient. Seles never managed such humiliating scores against Steffi. Ever.
@Maolseachlainn1 The only irrefutable fact is:what was shaping up to be a great rivalry à la Court/ King, Evert/Navratilova, et. al. ended. Obviously It hurt Monica the most, also Steffi (who will always have to live with that question mark next to the titles won after the stabbing) but us fans as well. We lost out, because we were denied another 5 to 6 yrs.of epic Graf/Seles matches.Look at what happend to women's tennis after that stabbing? Valium and warm milk.
@assindiastignani I tried to keep my post to facts, not opinion. And I notice your reply avoided the facts I laid out in my original post. Unfortunately life doesn't work the way you would have it, ie, 'what if?' What if the Protestant Reformation never happened? What if Hitler never existed? What if Homo Erectus never evolved? All interesting hypotheticals, but in the end meaningless. And it is not a fact that the Steffi-Seles rivalry ended. Seles came back and the rivalry continued.
@Maolseachlainn1 Wait a minute,I'd recognize that twisted prose anywhere.You write under at least four other names,and it's always the same: vitriolic abuse, pubescent vilification of anyone who dares to suggest that Steffi Graf wasn't the greatest of all time and anyone who disagrees is a vile...well abuse of others is your specialty,isn't it? However,rant all you want:Graf wasn't the greatest.If she were, you wouldn't need to stalk the internet and post your putrid diatribes.
@Meade3763 Dear Meade/Maolsechlain/Hoffenheim/Grafgirl how many other names do you have? Anyhow, I read all three messages you just sent me (do you work for a living, or do you just stalk youtube and write silly comments?) . Thank you for sharing. Now it's time for you to go back to La La Land. The next time you visit our planet, please get in touch. But for now, you are boring and silly, and waste my time. Good bye.
Women's tennis had some of the greatest slam finals of all time post-stabbing.
The Wimbledon 1993 final (Graf-Novotna), the Wimbledon 1995 final (Graf-Sanchez), the FO 1996 final (Graf-Sanchez) and the FO 1999 final (Graf-Hingis). Only when Graf retired slam finals started to become boring.
@Meade3763 The finals you named were: boring, boring, boring, and boring. No I take that back; Wimbledon '95 (Graf/Sanchez) was excruciatingly boring. Excuse me, I've gotta go drink some coffee - even writing abt. it makes me sleepy.
@Meade3763 The last resort of the rhetorically inept: quoting anonymous and/or unverifiable sources. "Most tennis fans and experts...(sic)." What tennis fans? What experts? You, your mamma and your 15 other alias identities in youtube? Yawn. Oh my God, I think it's contagious - even Graf fans are boring.
The FO 99 final was voted greatest women's slam final of the open era in a WTA poll by fans. Just google it, ass.
And if you read media articles and tennis books you would know that this and the other matches I mentioned were repeatedly ranked among the greatest matches of the open era.
@Meade3763 "Ass." That's the third time you've called me that.You do seem to have a slight scatalogical fixation. As for your "facts": what poll, when and where? how many people were polled? how many similar polls have been made in the thirteen yrs. since this historical event? Which books? Which articles? You give amateurs a bad name. You groupies are the WORST.
@Meade3763 Oh my goodness, even your insults are boring. Is this what watching too much Steffi Graf does to a person? BTW, do you even have three-digit IQ? Your vocabulary and syntax are on the level of a 7th grader
Immer dieselben langweiligen Sprüche. Wenn, hätte, wäre usw. Natürlich hätten wir uns alle gewünscht, dass Monica Seles nicht attackiert worden wäre. Für mich waren die Anfänge der 90ér die besten Zeiten im Tennissport. Ich habe es genossen die Matches zwischen Graf und Seles zu sehen. Und gerade zur besten Zeit, als Graf durch den abklingenden Presserummel durch ihren Vater wieder besser spielte und die Rolle als Herausforderin begriffen hatte, musste ein deutscher Idiot Monica attackieren.
@alin1975 She would have broken all the records, but she got stabbed...whatever. They still can't take it away. She is the greatest female tennis player that ever lived IMO.
Well, I am a fan of hers, but I really dont see how people make that claim so resolutely. I think the more likely scenario is a battle with Graf akin to Martina-Chris. Remember that Graf slumped (due to her own personal problems) during the period Seles won most of her GSs, so its extremely likely she would have mounted a serious challenge later.
But for sure, she would have been one of the greats and Graf would almost certainly not be a contender for the no1 player ever.
@82emilia She played for Yugoslavia in 1993? Not quite, at least not the way you imagine it... She played for a state comprised of only Serbia and its junior partner Montenegro. Officially it was still called Yugoslavia but it was Serbia in all but name. She was born in Serbia and grew up there, why should she care whether Slovenian or Croatia parted ways? Having said that, she was still ethnic Hungarian so patriotism towards Serbia wasn't a factor when she was offered to become US citizen...
@82emilia Just wanted to mention this since you stated it as if she would have had some kind of aversion playing for the country in which she was born, raised and where she also received funding/training early on in her career... Either way, for all that matters she's now a former American tennis player and her previous affiliatons are of no importance... Serbia has had its own share of tennis successes as of late, so to each his own or whatever the appropriate phrase is ;)
@82emilia Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the narrator in this documentary correctly described her as "a young woman from Serbia", so whatever issues you have take it up with the producers of this documentary ;)
Thats a rumor ! i know she's been with this man named Thomas Golisano for years and they have a daughter ! This man Thomas Golisano is on the board of RIT.
@binoyrakesh your first post didnt require exclamation marks...you came across like it annoyed you that someone said she was dating Allen. In casual "convo" exclamation marks are not necessary and they make you look stupid.
I met her yesterday. I grew up in india and when I saw her, it reminded me of my childhood when during one of my summer trips to my Aunt's place, we watched tennis on TV together.
She's been living in the US for at least 7 years. She happens to be the girl friend of a millionaire named Thomas Golisano(who owns Paychex corp. and is on the board of RIT, Rochester NY). I go to school here, and I accidentaly saw them both on campus Yesterday. They both live in Rochester NY.
She was playing a match in 1993 when a fan ran on court during a changover and stabbed her between the shoulder blades. Centimetres from paralysing her. She didn't play for many years and it ruined her career. (She was number one in the world at the time)
The fan apparently did it because he was a stalker of Stephi Graff and he was unhappy that Seles had surpassed her in the rankings.
@FCBrugge111 maybe. but she made it easy for herself. by the end of the first set any competitor was deaf from her ugly grunting. she was an annoyance at best.
If not ever more slams, that's why Graf refuses to call herself the best player ever cause she knows that her career was immensely helped when Seles was out of the picture, Graf won half of her slams after the Seles stabbing
Thanks so much for this upload. Been a while since we had any news on Monica since the *dance with star* thing. Great to see Monica so very mature and settled and obviously happy with her life. Monica is my idol through and through. No one else comes close. Love you Monica. My very best wishes on you with the rest your life journey.
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Szeles Mónika, Hungarian tennis player from Újvidék (now novi sad), Vajdaság, southern Hungary (now serbia).
Hungaria56 2 weeks ago
Is she playing against Carmela Soprano @2:00 ????
gonzaperez16 1 month ago
predobra je
013jovance 1 month ago
Wow! What an hysterical reply! If you can't cope with fact try frenzy! Your response did give me a good laugh though!!
Maolseachlainn1 2 months ago
@Maolseachlainn1 What a pathetic, sniveling little coward you really are. At least have the balls to post your replies as answers to my comments, not annonymously like this. Yuk, you are beneath contempt and have now completely disqualified yourself - as if THAT were still necessary. Poor Steffi! She deserved better fans than you!
assindiastignani 2 months ago
@assindiastignani I truly feel sorry for you. Poor angry little creature. And I didn't intentionally anonymously post a response. I don't usually use these online fora and inadvertently posted incorrectly. Apologies.
Maolseachlainn1 2 months ago
@Maolseachlainn1 You are pathetic. Save your pity for yourself.
No apologies necessary - you are what you are.
assindiastignani 2 months ago
@assindiastignani Such a tedious little creature too. And because of that I won't be responding to any more of your excessively boring little replies.
Maolseachlainn1 2 months ago
@Maolseachlainn1 Pathetic Pathetic Pathetic. Slink away little weasel, the way cowards always do.
assindiastignani 2 months ago
A very classy woman, never bitter despite being robbed of her # 1 status, tennis fans seem much bitter than 'Monica because we miss the 19 year old Monica when she was blasting everyone off the court and on top of the world, you will always be the best player ever in my heart
italo36 3 months ago
Poor Monica. Could not resign herself to the fact that Steffi was the better player. Compare head-to-head stats pre-stabbing: Steffi won 6 matches, Seles 4. When Seles was allegedly 'dominating' Steffi from 1991-93: Steffi won 3 matches, Seles 2. Such a pity the FACTS get in the way. The only player 'dominating' the other was Steffi: Wimbledon 1989: Steffi 6-0 61. Wimbledon 1992: Steffi 6-2 6-1. All pre-stabbing. How inconvenient. Seles never managed such humiliating scores against Steffi. Ever.
Maolseachlainn1 3 months ago
@Maolseachlainn1 The only irrefutable fact is:what was shaping up to be a great rivalry à la Court/ King, Evert/Navratilova, et. al. ended. Obviously It hurt Monica the most, also Steffi (who will always have to live with that question mark next to the titles won after the stabbing) but us fans as well. We lost out, because we were denied another 5 to 6 yrs.of epic Graf/Seles matches.Look at what happend to women's tennis after that stabbing? Valium and warm milk.
assindiastignani 2 months ago
@assindiastignani I tried to keep my post to facts, not opinion. And I notice your reply avoided the facts I laid out in my original post. Unfortunately life doesn't work the way you would have it, ie, 'what if?' What if the Protestant Reformation never happened? What if Hitler never existed? What if Homo Erectus never evolved? All interesting hypotheticals, but in the end meaningless. And it is not a fact that the Steffi-Seles rivalry ended. Seles came back and the rivalry continued.
Maolseachlainn1 2 months ago
@Maolseachlainn1 Wait a minute,I'd recognize that twisted prose anywhere.You write under at least four other names,and it's always the same: vitriolic abuse, pubescent vilification of anyone who dares to suggest that Steffi Graf wasn't the greatest of all time and anyone who disagrees is a vile...well abuse of others is your specialty,isn't it? However,rant all you want:Graf wasn't the greatest.If she were, you wouldn't need to stalk the internet and post your putrid diatribes.
assindiastignani 2 months ago
@assindiastignani
Most experts and fans agree that Steffi Graf is the greatest ever female tennis player.
I mean, who else?
She has the greatest achievements, the most class and the best character. Who could compare?
Meade3763 1 month ago
@Meade3763 Dear Meade/Maolsechlain/Hoffenheim/Grafgirl how many other names do you have? Anyhow, I read all three messages you just sent me (do you work for a living, or do you just stalk youtube and write silly comments?) . Thank you for sharing. Now it's time for you to go back to La La Land. The next time you visit our planet, please get in touch. But for now, you are boring and silly, and waste my time. Good bye.
assindiastignani 1 month ago
@assindiastignani
I have never sent you a message, ass. And I don't intend to do so any time soon.
Meade3763 1 month ago
@assindiastignani
Women's tennis had some of the greatest slam finals of all time post-stabbing.
The Wimbledon 1993 final (Graf-Novotna), the Wimbledon 1995 final (Graf-Sanchez), the FO 1996 final (Graf-Sanchez) and the FO 1999 final (Graf-Hingis). Only when Graf retired slam finals started to become boring.
Meade3763 1 month ago
@Meade3763 The finals you named were: boring, boring, boring, and boring. No I take that back; Wimbledon '95 (Graf/Sanchez) was excruciatingly boring. Excuse me, I've gotta go drink some coffee - even writing abt. it makes me sleepy.
assindiastignani 1 month ago
@assindiastignani
Most tennis fans and experts think that those Graf finals (Wimbledon 93 & 95, FO 96 & 99) rank among the greatest women's matches ever.
Who cares whether an ass from a waste dump country think otherwise? I mean, really?
Meade3763 1 month ago
@Meade3763 The last resort of the rhetorically inept: quoting anonymous and/or unverifiable sources. "Most tennis fans and experts...(sic)." What tennis fans? What experts? You, your mamma and your 15 other alias identities in youtube? Yawn. Oh my God, I think it's contagious - even Graf fans are boring.
assindiastignani 1 month ago
@assindiastignani
The FO 99 final was voted greatest women's slam final of the open era in a WTA poll by fans. Just google it, ass.
And if you read media articles and tennis books you would know that this and the other matches I mentioned were repeatedly ranked among the greatest matches of the open era.
Meade3763 1 month ago
@Meade3763 "Ass." That's the third time you've called me that.You do seem to have a slight scatalogical fixation. As for your "facts": what poll, when and where? how many people were polled? how many similar polls have been made in the thirteen yrs. since this historical event? Which books? Which articles? You give amateurs a bad name. You groupies are the WORST.
assindiastignani 1 month ago
@assindiastignani
"Ass" is the short form of your nick. You are obviously an ass from India.
As for the polls and the books: Google is your friend. But you seem to be not only intellectually lazy but lazy in general ...
Meade3763 1 month ago
@Meade3763 This is no fun; you're just not smart or witty enough. You bore me - go back to your bowling league. All the best.
assindiastignani 1 month ago
@assindiastignani
Well, kill yourself, ass.
When everything is boring for you, even the greatest slam finals of the open era.
Meade3763 1 month ago
@Meade3763 Oh my goodness, even your insults are boring. Is this what watching too much Steffi Graf does to a person? BTW, do you even have three-digit IQ? Your vocabulary and syntax are on the level of a 7th grader
assindiastignani 1 month ago
@assindiastignani
If my insults are as "boring" as the Graf-Hingis FO 99 final I must be doing something right, ass.
Meade3763 1 month ago
Phenom? Is that meant to be a word?
casamir111 3 months ago
Monica Seles FOR EVER. MONICA YOU ROCK. You are so strong that you got back even after that tragedy. YOU ARE THE BEST
evelin997 8 months ago
I curse the day on which Monica Seles was stabbed!
123456RaulMorales 11 months ago 3
Immer dieselben langweiligen Sprüche. Wenn, hätte, wäre usw. Natürlich hätten wir uns alle gewünscht, dass Monica Seles nicht attackiert worden wäre. Für mich waren die Anfänge der 90ér die besten Zeiten im Tennissport. Ich habe es genossen die Matches zwischen Graf und Seles zu sehen. Und gerade zur besten Zeit, als Graf durch den abklingenden Presserummel durch ihren Vater wieder besser spielte und die Rolle als Herausforderin begriffen hatte, musste ein deutscher Idiot Monica attackieren.
Hackbraten83 1 year ago
Well, I cant say I agree that she would have broken all records (etc), but she certainly was going to be one of the greats.
alin1975 1 year ago
@alin1975 She would have broken all the records, but she got stabbed...whatever. They still can't take it away. She is the greatest female tennis player that ever lived IMO.
mcentepede 11 months ago
@mcentepede
Well, I am a fan of hers, but I really dont see how people make that claim so resolutely. I think the more likely scenario is a battle with Graf akin to Martina-Chris. Remember that Graf slumped (due to her own personal problems) during the period Seles won most of her GSs, so its extremely likely she would have mounted a serious challenge later.
But for sure, she would have been one of the greats and Graf would almost certainly not be a contender for the no1 player ever.
alin1975 11 months ago
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Was a huge fan that I named my daughter after her. If her career was not cut by a crazed fan and injuries she should have easily broke all records.
alav14 1 year ago
Was a huge fan that I named my daughter after her. If her career was not cut by a crazed fan and injuries she should have easily broke all records.
alav14 1 year ago 2
cela Srbija je uzdisala za njom...i onda pocne prljavi rat i ona nam okrene ledja i ode za USA i nikada se vise nije vracala...... sramota.
MSLOXY 1 year ago
I am from Serbia and I remember that I used to watch every single Monica's match. I really love Seles.
plavetnilobg 1 year ago
@plavetnilobg but that was yugoslavia then, pall
82emilia 1 year ago
@82emilia She played for Yugoslavia in 1993? Not quite, at least not the way you imagine it... She played for a state comprised of only Serbia and its junior partner Montenegro. Officially it was still called Yugoslavia but it was Serbia in all but name. She was born in Serbia and grew up there, why should she care whether Slovenian or Croatia parted ways? Having said that, she was still ethnic Hungarian so patriotism towards Serbia wasn't a factor when she was offered to become US citizen...
unapologeticmind 5 months ago
@82emilia Just wanted to mention this since you stated it as if she would have had some kind of aversion playing for the country in which she was born, raised and where she also received funding/training early on in her career... Either way, for all that matters she's now a former American tennis player and her previous affiliatons are of no importance... Serbia has had its own share of tennis successes as of late, so to each his own or whatever the appropriate phrase is ;)
unapologeticmind 5 months ago
@82emilia Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the narrator in this documentary correctly described her as "a young woman from Serbia", so whatever issues you have take it up with the producers of this documentary ;)
unapologeticmind 5 months ago
she living in USA or somewhere in yougoslavia?
angelorossi83 2 years ago
last I heard, she was still living in Sarasota, Fl. And she's been dating Microsoft co-founder, Paul Allen for years now.
MisterCrazyLegs 2 years ago
what? That bold, fat guy?
Wow...shit...never thought she'd do that.....
webgazda 2 years ago
@MisterCrazyLegs
Thats a rumor ! i know she's been with this man named Thomas Golisano for years and they have a daughter ! This man Thomas Golisano is on the board of RIT.
binoyrakesh 1 year ago
@binoyrakesh so what...is your life over because it was rumored that she used to date Paul Allen?
MisterCrazyLegs 1 year ago
@MisterCrazyLegs easy there "mr.crazy whatever you are"
wtf is with that response? I knew about her, and so i told you ! that is it !
binoyrakesh 1 year ago
@binoyrakesh your first post didnt require exclamation marks...you came across like it annoyed you that someone said she was dating Allen. In casual "convo" exclamation marks are not necessary and they make you look stupid.
MisterCrazyLegs 1 year ago
@angelorossi83
I met her yesterday. I grew up in india and when I saw her, it reminded me of my childhood when during one of my summer trips to my Aunt's place, we watched tennis on TV together.
She's been living in the US for at least 7 years. She happens to be the girl friend of a millionaire named Thomas Golisano(who owns Paychex corp. and is on the board of RIT, Rochester NY). I go to school here, and I accidentaly saw them both on campus Yesterday. They both live in Rochester NY.
binoyrakesh 1 year ago
Wow Monica is stunning!
wawasgood 2 years ago
monika-yugoslavia still lovin´you
lanesakorane 2 years ago 2
I met her at an exhibition tournament a few years ago and she was sooooo nice. Down to earth, generous and utterly charming! Ya monica.
bills2020 2 years ago
can someone say me what incident hapened with seles?
emran90 2 years ago
She was playing a match in 1993 when a fan ran on court during a changover and stabbed her between the shoulder blades. Centimetres from paralysing her. She didn't play for many years and it ruined her career. (She was number one in the world at the time)
The fan apparently did it because he was a stalker of Stephi Graff and he was unhappy that Seles had surpassed her in the rankings.
compactdisker 2 years ago 5
very bad :( .... i have not words....such a stupid idiot ruined her career..can someone send me a link from the incident???
emran90 2 years ago
wow she looks very sexy!
stealthpakfa 3 years ago 6
She's beautiful :O
LosAnggraito 3 years ago 8
Singed!
brani25 3 years ago
Without that incident Seles would have won at least 20 Grand Slams...
for me is she the best woman tennis player 4ever !!!!
FCBrugge111 3 years ago 51
@FCBrugge111 maybe. but she made it easy for herself. by the end of the first set any competitor was deaf from her ugly grunting. she was an annoyance at best.
Meskiagkasher 8 months ago
@FCBrugge111
If not ever more slams, that's why Graf refuses to call herself the best player ever cause she knows that her career was immensely helped when Seles was out of the picture, Graf won half of her slams after the Seles stabbing
italo36 5 months ago
@italo36
Yes, but Seles won ALL of her slams after the Graf blackmail scandal!
I mean, you don't want to tell us that Seles would have won her slams in 1990-93 if Steffi still had played in her vintage 1988/89 form, do you???
Meade3763 1 month ago
@FCBrugge111 no way, but a great champion for sure
jembozzo 1 month ago
@FCBrugge111
Best woman tennis player???? She was a good player but never as great as the all time great Steffi Graff.
Karis1020 1 month ago
i misss youuuu!!!!!!!
iNikkoJohn 3 years ago 7
Thanks so much for this upload. Been a while since we had any news on Monica since the *dance with star* thing. Great to see Monica so very mature and settled and obviously happy with her life. Monica is my idol through and through. No one else comes close. Love you Monica. My very best wishes on you with the rest your life journey.
trent8002003 3 years ago 18