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  • ron paul . if enything would clean up your government.get the riff raff out.you all look at him like you would die if someone is not ordering you what to do.WHY DO THE USA HATE THERE CONSTITUTION.?do you realy need a man in power having your money ?.be free have a good life.

  • that was dead on!!!!!!!!

  • Over 30 yrs in the senate. Hmmm. It's his turn.

  • Ron Paul Cult 2012

  • lol, freedom is a cult,hahahaha

  • I'm RACIST for criticizing Obama.

    TERRORIST because I'm not with Bush.

    ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Rothechild Zionism.

    TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution.

    TRUTH-ER for asking unanswered questions.

    TRAITOR for whistle-blowing on my corrupt Government.

    CONSPIRACY THEORIST for presenting documented facts.

    TROLL for uploading news, videos, quotes and U.S.Atrocities.

    ANTI-AMERICAN for supporting Constitutionalists like Dr. Ron Paul.

    RON PAUL 2012!

  • @WeThePeopleVStheNWO Hmmm i thought that list was longer, but good statement none the less

  • 0:10 He's CUMMING, he's cumming, nobody paid attention!!

  • Obama or Paul? From what we've seen from Obama, hes flipflopped alot and broken alot of promises. The fact of the matter is that he should never have made promises he couldn't keep or never intended to keep.

    What I like about Paul is that he doesn't seem to actually be a politician. You ask him what he thinks, and he tells you, regardless of who is in the room or where he is at. Thats rare nowadays.

  • I'm with Cenk here... It all comes down to how much craziness he could get passed, & how much wouldn't make it out of committee.

    Although I must say, if I see "Ron Paul 2012" & shit all the way towards the election, I'm gonna break my vow & vote Obama one more time -.-

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  • Getting rid of the Departments is crazy? First off, is the Dept. of Education doing such a fabulous job? Look at any objective measurement of the US educational system in the last 30 years!!! It is an embarrassment!

    If we want the dumbest children on the planet, the Dept. of Education should immediately get a budget increase of 500 percent! THAT would be the quickest way to the goal. Oh, that and free flouride tablets.

  • the income tax might be hard to get rid of like you said, but the departments would be alot easier. The ones he's talking about are useless and are a waste, I mean shit we've onlt had a department of energy and education for about 30 years. since then they have not fufilled there purpose

  • he is still afraid to support the real champion of freedom and democracy. wake up, ron paul 100% all they way.

  • "...once you have a financial incentive...aww..that's a heavy pull, man..."

    spoken like a true capitalist!

  • really only 2 voices....350 million people and and 2 votes and 2 party`s....Now I know why you are fucked as the best country in the world

  • Paul over Obama anyday of the week

  • RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!

  • @NoMAIG As long as discrimination is not provable, a business can discriminate all it wants. Thats America - innocent until PROVEN guilty.

  • I can't argue with anything said in this video, because it is just the expresses exactly the state of my own views.

  • Peace Makes Sense!! Ron Paul 2012!!!

  • Ron Paul baby

  • @dangerouslytalented u dont seem to get it. I am not saying vote for him because his i libertarian i am sayin if u take a corrupt politician because he is on ur "team" over a non corrupt politician who u might disagree on on some issues then u deserve all the corruption u get because its not like u didnt know.

  • @jonz23m A corrupt politician will know where to stop, as they know that if they get caught in too big of a scandal, they will go to prison. However, a crazy politician will not have those problems. Ron Paul stands by idaeology alone, and that idaeology often does not reflect real life.

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  • It doesn't matter about what he said about the school system cause that's an issue that he's going to let the Congress decide State to State :)

  • @NoMAIG Ur comment makes sense. But the thing ur not considering is that in America we are assumed innocent until proven guilty. A sign that says "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" does not by itself indicate that business is breaking the law by discriminating based on race, sex, color, religion, and national origin. If there was more proof, then the firm could be prosecuted for breaking the law.

  • @FumingPoliticalPunk

    "Don't be envious just 'cause the guy has a huge penis"

    Implying you saw a old man's dick.

    Yeap, no need to do anything else to destroy you faggot.

  • If you had told me two years ago that I would be registering republican to vote for Ron Paul in the 2012 primaries, I'd have called you a crazy asshole.

    But then again, I'd also have called you a crazy asshole if you told me that the government would be classifying protesters as terrorists, organizing detention centers and passing legislation that allowed them to jail, disappear (To Guantanamo, Bagram, etc) or assassinate any American *suspected* of having anything to do with terrorism.

  • I agree with Cenk. Even if you disagree with Ron on social issues, he will not get majority of the stuff done because he will have tough time bringing both parties to vote in favor of those things. On the other hand, Ron Paul is the perfect guy to get rid of the Patriot Act and NDAA. I also want him to cut military and defense spending A LOT. So yes, i am voting Ron Paul.

  • @Stingerbillion To be honest he will probably struggle to cut defence spending and get rid of the Patriot Act, at least while the Republicans have so much influence on the house and senate.

  • @zebbedi You're right, he may struggle. What do you think though if Dems get majority in house and senate? Do you believe they might help him get rid of Patriot Act or NDAA?

  • @Stingerbillion The democrats had ample chance to do this before. They seemed reluctant to do so. Nobody wants to appear weak on terrorism even if it breaches your constitution.

  • @zebbedi That's true, you're right.

  • @1995Nekfeu

    I suggest you pay attention to what Ron Paul actually says and not what you want to hear. In No way does Ron Paul suggest the Fed Gov should be involved in either item you detailed.

  • @outpostprime

    The register as Republican and vote for him in the primary and help guarantee that opportunity. You can always register as Democrat afterwards, if you are one.

  • @1corpoaratekochwhore Why would he need to sidestep those, they have no authority over the President?

  • @Ichenmeis

    I think you are delusional. He has already stated he would cut spending by $1 trillion in the first year. That means he still needs the income tax to help pay for the rest of the spending...

    By the way, the real Darwinist economic plan is continuing down the road we are currently on of Debt and Despair. That way we can end up as a 3rd world bottom feeder as you seem to desire.

  • @fractal420

    Then you all better stay active in your states. The Fed has no business in the bedrooms period.

  • @fractal420

    The Fed Gov has no place in State business past what is outlined in the Constitution.

    What your State does is your business and what mine does is my business. This is why MA has an Obamcare like program and others do not.

    The Concept applies to your "anti-sodomy laws" there are already sex laws in some States. We do not need the Fed getting involved as well. You see, if the Fed has the power to give and or allow, then it has the power to take and or ban. Keep the Fed out

  • @ThndersRage

    Right so it's perfectly fine for the state's to remove rights.

    This is why you all pieces of fascist shit.

  • @mecher3k

    Incorrect, but then I didn't expect you to comprehend.

  • @ThndersRage

    says the free market retard who pro slavery and anti-women's and gay's rights.

  • @mecher3k

    Says the Troll who has yet to put forward any rational argument to prove multiple accusations said Troll routinely makes.

  • @dookdawg214

    Only partially correct. First, as he has explained before, he must convince the masses on what he believes the roll of Government should be.

    Only then can the transition begin and even then it can only be done with the approval of Congress.

  • @ThndersRage

    You're dancing around the issue. Of course he'd have trouble getting it done. That's not the point. The point is, it's a clear part of his position and he is pledged to getting rid of them. He even has them blowing up in his anti-Romney commercial.

  • @dookdawg214

    Dancing? Nope not even close, what I have stated is paraphrased from his own words. You are correct, It is a clear part of his "position" and I helped elaborate for you what his "position" entails. In fact he does not expect his "position" to reach complete fruition during his life time...

  • @DeepSouth16

    That is how we got Obama, remember "Anybody but Bush."?

    Please Go learn about Ron Paul, he is the real deal.

  • It is ironic and sad that the simple truth of the matter is that Ron Paul is more likely to get Liberals and Progressives SOME of the things they want whilst giving them some things they don't. But Obama will give them NONE of the things they want and possibly as many (if not more) of the things they don't than Ron Paul could. Ron Paul may well be the Progressive candidate for 2012. How fucked up is your country when that is true?

  • This guy is against scrapping the education system in america? ...that's just stupid. Do you think that it actually does an okay job educating our youth or something?

  • @afaultytoaster

    Nifty, the rest of us stop paying the hidden tax and our Dollar starts recovering from losing 96% of its value since 1913, that's bad right?

  • @ThndersRage it's great if you're a multimillionaire like him, because the deflation gives you orders of magnitude more purchasing power than before. if you're living paycheque to paycheque like a hundred million other americans, it's very bad, because your mortgage will likewise cost you orders of magnitude more to pay off

  • @afaultytoaster

    If you got a variable rate that is your own problem. If you have a $200k mortgage or whatever, it will still be a $200k, it won't magically jump because your dollar buys more at the store....

  • @ThndersRage deflation means wages go down along with prices. remember, gdp per capita in 1913 would only have been a few hundred dollars. the present figure of ~$40,000 is inflation - deflation would make the trend the other way.

  • @afaultytoaster

    Deflation may mean that, however Deflation is not guaranteed. That said, a gold standard does not necessarily mean a return to a dollar value of 1913 and serious deflation. Depends on how it is done. I would be perfectly happy with the dollar retaining its current value and backed by something so they can't debase it as easily.

    However with the Fed printing as it has the dollar is gonna continue to drop and that hurts paycheck to paycheck people just as much.

  • @ThndersRage 1913 was just an example to illustrate my point, i wasn't suggesting it would snap back to that point.

    deflation would be guaranteed if the economy expanded without the money supply keeping pace. in that situation, as i said earlier, the average american with a mortgage and a salary would be screwed whereas the richest americans with massive financial reserves would be greatly benefitted. like ron paul would be.

  • @afaultytoaster

    And I just don't buy that, sorry.

  • @ThndersRage well look up the frequency of economic crises, recessions and depressions, when america was on the gold standard - nber [dot] org/cycles.html

    crises were more frequent and lasted longer under commodity currency than under fiat currency

    commodity currencies rely on the production of the commodity for an expansion in the money supply, and gold is mined very slowly.

    if you don't "buy" these facts you're horribly misinformed

  • @afaultytoaster

    Really whether I buy it or not is irrelevant when all is said and done. However if you dont buy the coming collapse of our current Fiat currency, then you are horribly delusional. No Fiat currency lasts forever and the Feds actions since 1913 guarantee ours wont either, they all collapse and ours will be no different. Personally I would rather put up with the cycles of a Gold standard than have to suffer through a complete monetary collapse where everyone loses.

  • @ThndersRage if it's irrelevant why did you mentioned "not buying that" earlier

  • @afaultytoaster

    Because I felt like it and I still don't buy it. However It doesn't really matter. This fiat system will collapse just like all the rest that came before it. Whether you or me like it or not, there will be a monetary system backed by something in our future. It may be this one or it may be a new one after this one implodes.

  • @ThndersRage i don't buy that

  • @afaultytoaster

    Your choice, but the facts support me on this one, look up Fiat Currency history.

  • @ThndersRage sorry but i don't buy that

  • Ron Paul 2012 

  • Waw if left wingers like TYT are thinking of supporting a republican like Ron Paul, that's a major shift in US politics, the Democrats vs Republicans illusion does not fool any one anymore, they are funded by the same people to do the same things with minor differences, it about Establishment vs People's choice from now on.

  • @stonemetallica He won't win the economic debate. RP is clueless on economic issues.

  • @zebbedi

    Clueless? He has predicted most the crap the Housing Bubble several years in advance... More like he is the only one running with a clue...

  • @ThndersRage Except that he didn't. He was completely wrong. We all knew that their was trouble in the housing market but it was caused by lack of regulation not Fannie and Freddie interference as Ron Paul claimed.

  • @zebbedi

    Um actually he did, unless you live in a dream world...

    Your assertion kinda flies in the face of the facts:

    watch?v=mnuoHx9BINc (A quote from him made 5 years in advance)

    Bottom line, Government interference created the problem and you suggest more Government interference would solve it? Laughable.

  • @ThndersRage I've seen that video. Watch it again. He says that the housing market was in trouble (which was no secret) but he blames Fannie and Freddie's interference for the problem which is completely false.

    If he knew anything about the current economic crisis he would be calling for regulation and government oversight not deregulation and government down sizing.

  • @zebbedi

    Except when you look into it, your assertion that it is false is not supported by any analysis published online that I have seen. Nice try but I will take the word of more abundant smarter people who back Ron Paul in this.

  • @ThndersRage Of course you will, you are a sheep. Incapable of forming your own opinion. I have an MSc in Economics and I am able to form my own views. I know that Ron Paul was wrong, judging by what he said. Nothing you can say or do will change that.

  • @zebbedi

    Ahh insults, they tend to come out when one's argument lacks substance and the facts to back it.

    You lose, GG...

  • @ThndersRage What insult? I was pointing out facts.

  • @zebbedi

    Amusing, but as with your insults, this nonsensical spin doesn't help your argument either...

  • @zebbedi And how was he wrong?

  • @zebbedi Except there was massive regulation and oversight. Anyone who claims otherwise is either uninformed or a liar. Which one are you?

  • @BAAWAKnight Where? If you think that the derivatives market was over regulated then you know nothing about it.

    Name this massive regulation and oversight.....

    The removal of Glass-Steagal and sub-prime lending laws were major factors in the crisis.

    I would like to hear exactly what you think caused it because I'm betting you have no clue.

  • @zebbedi If you think they weren't regulated, then you know nothing about it.

    Glass-Steagal had nothing to do with it, as it should have never existed in the first place. The federal reserve, fractional reserve laws, Community Reinvestment Act, and sweetheart deals to the quasi-government Fannie and Freddie were the cause. Denial of that means that you haven't got a clue.

  • @BAAWAKnight What you just said doesn't make sense unfortunately.

  • @zebbedi Except that it does.

  • Ignorance is NOT an argument.

    You know nothing about the income tax.

  • I'm an Obama voter that'd vote for Paul if he won the nomination.

  • @donkeybuttpin123

    So change parties for the primary and help Ron Paul win the nomination...

  • Your reasoning is exactly why Ron Paul is the better choice over Obama. The only real powers of the president is the control of the military and the ability to stop congress and of course, execute law generally speaking. You want our troops to come home, and Obama isn't doing it. Ron Paul will. You say you don't like how Ron Paul wants to shrink government. It isn't the job of the president to change government. That's congress! All Ron Paul will do is stop growing government. You win with Ron.

  • I think the host is drunk.

  • Even if Ron Paul is incorruptible.... it's just too bad he's crazy......

  • @StickManThePan

    If crazy means wanting to follow the Constitution, end wars of aggression, stop expansive Government growth and have sound money with a balanced budget than crazy is good.

  • @ThndersRage

    *then

  • @ThndersRage Hah, not exactly what I meant, but I'll bite! 1) Following the Constitution is a good thing, but he picks and chooses an interpretation just like everybody else -- an interpretation that in some regards I find not only unrealistic, or offensive, but short-sighted and too strict. 2) Agree on an end to the wars, definitely. 3) Stopping a specific type of gov't growth is okay, but I think shrinking all gov't is an awful idea. 4) Balanced budget yes, but I don't need Paul.

  • @StickManThePan

    Merry Christmas to you.

    1) It is good and the wording in the Constitution isn't hard to understand and I am with Ron Paul, I find it Realistic, not offensive and strict as it should be.

    If you find this to be short sighted then I guess you missed Article 5 which details how to to change the Constitution to make up for whatever issue you think is not handled.

    3) I think shrinking all Gov is an great idea, we don't need huge Gov.

    4)Agree, and of course disagree.

  • @ThndersRage 1) Haha I'm sorry, but it's not close to being realistic. Setting aside the incredibly destructive effect his ideas would have to our modern society, the simple fact that Paul would never be able to get the Congress to snag onto his ideas alone make it unrealistic, even beyond his electability.

    2) Article 5 doesn't need to be addressed. You assume unconstitutionality (with some you things you're right though), when there is none.

    [cont'd]

  • @StickManThePan

    1) Haha sorry, it is completely realistic. Ideas have gotten Ron Paul this far and these ideas will continue to spread. The only destructive effect his ideas would have is eliminating overreaching and overbearing totalitarian Government. Which is completely fine by me.

    2) Your opinion, not mine. This topic alone is worth chapters in a book, not enough space in a Youtube post to go into so on this we will simply have to agree to disagree.

  • @ThndersRage

    1) His ideas go far beyond "eliminating overreaching and overbearing totalitarian Government." That's the problem. Typically, when "totalitarian," by most Objectivist or Libertarian philosophies, is under a definition that could even arguably render stop signs unconstitutional, the possible consequences would be disastrous.

    2) Also the opinion of The Supreme Court. A large disagreement indeed.

  • @StickManThePan

    1) My bad, I had forgot that his ideas are to strictly follow the constitution...

    2)Also the opinion of the Supreme Court? Seriously? Black robed Deities whos purpose is to interpret a Document that was written for common folk to understand and whom 4 out of 9 cannot figure out what "Shall not be infringed" means in the 2nd Amendment, is your your support?

  • @ThndersRage [cont'd]

    3) Like I said, shrinking certain parts of government is a good idea. Certainly getting money our of politics, and shaving "defense" is a great idea. Liberals don't like "Big Government" either, that's just an old fancy straw man.

    4) Don't need Paul to balance the budget. It's been done before. Also, it's necessary to point out, not trying to single you out, deficit and debt are not the same. Every President except Andrew Jackson held office in debt.

  • @StickManThePan out* of politics.

  • @StickManThePan

    3) Never claimed all liberals love big Gov.

    You said: "Stopping a specific type of gov't growth is okay, but I think shrinking all gov't is an awful idea."

    I said: "shrinking all Gov is an great idea, we don't need huge Gov."

    Key word here from me is "ALL".

    4) If you are talking about Clinton then you are mistaken, the US Treasury Website has his "surplus" adding to the national debt each year of his admin.

    Lastly I know the difference between debt and deficit.

  • @ThndersRage

    3) I see you never said it. I wish I could find the original post, and see if I may have overlooked it. If I did, I apologize. The key phrase I noticed was "we don't need huge Gov." Sorry if I mistook that. Seemed an implied straw man, as if I was defending "huge Gov." Too subjective, and also not true.

    4) [cont'd]

  • @StickManThePan

    We, as in the US, irrespective of political distinctions. Not specifically directed at anyone nor was it intended that you implied we did. If you took it that way, my apologies.

  • @ThndersRage

    4) I was actually referring to Pres. Jackson again. But, factor in inflation, GDP growth, interest, and budget projections, had they not had the rug disastrously pulled out from under it by a "certain" preceding administration, the surplus seemed plausible. Trust fund borrowing, and intragovernmental debt aside.

  • Although, there are instances I'm aware of with President Eisenhower and Pres. LBJ where the budget had been balanced. Unfortunately I really don't know much about it, or the specifics, so I can't fairly elaborate on them here. It might also interest you that I think the Federal Reserve, or the way it functions as a private entity, is a GIGANTIC fraud in our system. It's just as anti-Liberal as it is anti-Libertarian. Unfortunately, money talks for the Dems as well....

  • @StickManThePan

    Hey Bush sucked everybody knows it and I certainly don't deny it, but please do not even try to paint Oblamo as innocent. He has done nothing different except add more Gov, more spending and more military actions. I think it absurd to assume this status quot will not be kept by Establishment candidates, of which Ron Paul is not.Just look at his record and how they continually attempt to marginalize him. He isn't a hero but he certainly is not for the status quot.

  • @ThndersRage Oh, and Merry Christmas to you!

  • Ron Paul all the way F*ck Obama he's a lying piece of sh!t!

  • Vote Ron Paul

  • No fucking way!!! ....Is Cenk really thinking of voting for Ron Paul over Obama??!!! ... Cenk the ultra Lib Progressive.

    Daayum .....

  • @jjcale1111 Obama is crap and Cenk knows that. Rob Paul is the ONLY candidate that is not a corrupt and cares about our liberty and our country. Obama has literally helped destroy our freedom. We have no Constitution left because of the last three presidents. Ron Paul has the same philosophies as Thomas Jefferson. Do you not think we need another Thomas Jefferson? Ron Paul is like the old world republicans. He is a real republican. Not these fake corporate, Zionist, paid off whores

  • Cenk, you do realize that if the shoe was on the other foot, ie, GW Bush was in office and the DNC had a lot horrible choices and also Denis Kucinich --- we in the R3VOLution would be 100% behind Denis K. We love him on foreign policy, the Federal Reserve, and he is good on torture and the drug war too. Half a loaf is better than NO LOAF. please go to bluerepublican dot o r g and sign up today.

  • Cenk, lead the way, don't fall for the Left/Right box. Be a BLUE Republican, just for a year! That way you can at the very least, see and hear Obama debate Ron Paul. Obama will have to really answer for himself. As a BLUE Republican you can STILL vote Obama, but help us make the debate be a REAL ONE. Go to bluerepublican dot o r g

  • Cenk, half a loaf of bread is better than NO Loaf! Obama has given you NO Loaf. We are only leaving Iraq because Obama couldn't keep the troops there cause they kicked us out. And you are correct, the "bad" economic things, ain't going to happen. The big govt dems and big govt republicans will oppose all that. So YOU WIN. With Ron Paul you get all the anti-war, all the civil liberties, all the anti-torture, anti-drug war, etc. Most of all, voting for Ron Paul SAVES LIVES. Obama kills.

  • If this idiot Paul loses the primary and makes a third party I'm gonna be pissed.

  • This is the first time in weeks that I have 'liked' as well as favorited a TYT vid. This sort of analysis is very much appreciated by the TYT army.

  • watch out, IRS will want their cut.

  • Listen Cenk, income tax is illegal to start with. 40 bucks you making a big deal about losing that, you should donate that 1000 bucks to Dr. Paul's campaign. Obummer has declared war on the American people. Lets roll with that.

  • Listen Cenk, income tax is illegal to start with. Was 40 bucks you where about losing that, you should donate that 1000 bucks to Dr. Paul's campaign. Obummer has declared war on the American people.

  • I really like this guy more and more everday. The thing about Cenk is that he is a lot more similar to Ron Paul than he realizes. Cenk is a good Human being. He cares about all human beings and Cenk has proven that he is not corruptable, just like Ron Paul. Where they differ is on domestic economic issues and the solution to the crisis.

  • Live it up Paul supporters the poll that claims he's leading is the PPP, a notorious liberal poll. Obama and his supporters know Paul is the weakest most insane canidate.

  • @nobleminge So you support Obummer, even though he has just shredded the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. What more does he have to do? Even if Ron Paul becomes President you will still be saying oh so he is President he will never win the second.

  • @stonemetallica thats right, obama can have all the little catchy 1 liners he wants. His body of work has proven his merit. He is a failed president.

  • @2wives1prophet Seriously?

    Do you have a video link?

  • @louie540x Link is on top of DailyPaul.. sry, cant post links in youtube ;-/

  • Congratulations Ron Paul idiots. Your keyboard warriors have handed the election to Obama.

  • @nobleminge No. Ron Paul currently has the best chance.

    His supporters are diverse, because he attracts all kinds of people! Some like him because he'll end the war. Some like him because he'll legalize marijuana. Some like him because he'll end the Fed. Others like him because he'll secure the boarders.

    Ron Paul is diverse, honest and intelligent. That attacts a lot more voters than Obama. Plus, Ron's supporters are loyal.

  • @nobleminge Ron Paul is the only republican candidate that will for sure beat obama in the general election. Not only does every TRUE conservative back Dr. Paul, but nearly every single libertarian, and MANY young people. It was the youth vote and a horrible republican candidate that gave Obama this last election. The rest of the pack are Rove-esque neo-cons. Have you forgot what Bush's approval ratings were? Obviously, if you want to run another neo-con.

  • "Ron Paul is the only republican candidate that will for sure beat obama in the general election" (@mac423)

    Apart from believing that 9/11 was the US fault, Iraq was a "useless war" & Iran would be smart to get the bomb Ron Paul might win the GE lol

    80% of his own party dont even like him.

    But Ron Paul is a likeable honest old man so to win Iowa might be a good retirement present for him & would make the fight between narcissist Newt and Wall Street fanboy Mitt more interesting.

  • I wondered too. I concluded....

    Ron Paul 2012! Let Freedom Ring!

  • WOW! i have a whole new respect for mr. Uygur. i liked him during the Bush years, then felt he gave the tea party and unfair shake. however i'm really glad to see him being really open minded. i even like his disagreements. they are rational and worthy of debate.

  • Obama is a cock sucker. At least Bush waited until his second term to stab his supporters in the back.

  • The Department of Education has been worse than useless over its entire existence.

    -jcr

  • who cares what Paul's positions are. He is incorruptible. That is the most important thing. Corruption is the root of everything that is bad in Washington. Whether libertarian Ron Paul or progressive Ralph Nader, they are both honest people who want to make America better. Who gives a hoot at this point? Look at what is at stake.

  • @Mtjoyc3 Incorruptability hardly matters if he is for the stupid stuff regardless. AFAIK he does vote with the republicans on a bunch of things. Most of his values are for big business interests whether he realizes it or not.

  • @blechtic ending the wars, the drug war, and restoring civil liberties is not stupid stuff. And like Cenk said, none of his stupid stuff would get passed by Congress so it shouldn't be a concern. His values may benefit big business but his policies would bring an end to cronyism. Even Ralph Nader praised him for his work against Corporatism. And we all know Nader makes a living fighting corporate crime.

  • @Mtjoyc3 "ending the wars, the drug war, and restoring civil liberties is not stupid stuff."

    The other stuff is.

    "His values may benefit big business but his policies would bring an end to cronyism."

    Ending corporatism and cronyism would get voted down (republicans and right-wing dems). Instead, he would get passed the other minimum government crap like flat tax and end of social programs and regulation which would kill the ordinary people and especially the poor.

  • @Mtjoyc3 Since he made it this far in the presidential election then I doubt he is incorruptible. Someone who is selfless should not be in politics in the first place.

  • @Miranox2 this was always something I figured as well. Which is why I used to always tell my Obama supporting friends, "If the guy has gotten THIS far, he's a shill". I still believe no honest man can truly make it through the process, but I'll keep my fingers crossed for loopholes. And also, if you really watch Ron Paul over the last 30yrs, there really shouldn't be any doubt that this guy is the epitome of the incorruptible politician. Unless they cast a spell on him...

  • @Mtjoyc3 Ur comment is so absolutely ridiculous. You know, Hitler was incorruptible too. He stood up for what he believed and wouldnt back down. He believed what he was doing would make Germany better too!

    U must always pay attention to what candidates believe. Just because they cant be bought doesnt mean their opinions arent insane!

  • @ViciousOneWon Yeah, but Ron Paul doesn't spew Antisemitism &Fascism. lol wth man. He stands up for freedom &liberty. He believes in them &won't back down. He believes it will make America better too! Now, it may be just me, but I'm not too turned off by those sentiments. Ending the wars, the drug war, restoring civil liberties are not insane opinions. And the point of my post, and part of what Cenk was saying, was to not overreact about his other ideas he has, which is exactly what u're doing.

  • @Mtjoyc3 Thanks for the post. I hate it when people accuse Paul of "hating education" when he wants to get rid of the DoE. The DoE is superflous bureaucracy. That money could easily be circulated in local government and be much more efficiently spent. No Child Left Behind is an infamous disaster.

  • @Mtjoyc3 Well, Ron Paul doesnt directly spew anti-semetism. But Ron Paul believes if a company wants to discriminate against Jews then it should be legal. Currently its not legal for companies to discriminate based on religion.

    Do u believe denying Jews jobs because theyre Jews should be legal?

  • @ViciousOneWon he's only standing for property rights. Government can't tell a company who it can or cannot hire. So, what does that mean? Does that mean that tons of companies would start putting discriminatory restrictions in place? Probably not. And if there were some assholes who started to refuse hiring Jews or blacks, they would be totally shunned by the public and be an abysmal failure of a business.

  • @Mtjoyc3 Ur argument that if we legalize discrimination then no one would discriminate is ridiculous! Its like saying "look at how clean the air is - so lets repeal the clean air laws!" LMAO

    The reason the air is clean is because of the laws! Its the same with discrimination. As proof I present - A HISTORY BOOK! Look at American life before and after discrimination was outlawed! It improved the lives of millions of Americans!

  • @Mtjoyc3

    "Who care what Paul's positions are"

    This is exactly the reason our politics are in such a sorry state.

    Americans are sentimental and prefer to vote with their feelings as opposed to making well reasoned choices in support of their best interests.

    Paul seems honest, but for god's sake stop being sheep. Know the positions and hold politicians accountable to their voting record, that takes being informed and safeguards against corruption, otherwise you'll always get hoodwinked.

  • @lowenklee Anyone having a political discourse on a Young Turks video about hypocrisy and corruption is anything but a sheep. I respect your passion though &agree with everything you said. But most do hold Paul very accountable to his voting record of voting with the Constitution 100% of the time, often being the lone NO vote on legislation. Not too shabby right? Lobbyist don't even talk to him because they know he won't work with them. This is a very noble statesman we're talking about here.

  • I would take those odds too, and I'm not voting for RP.