how would people like if an alien pick u up put u in a cage took you away from your friends and familey then put you on display to ramdon creatures in a small house(well a house is like humans natruale enviroment) with only one other human that you did'nt know and was from a differnt part of the world that did'nt speack your langue, your forced to eat what they give you and your locked away untill you die just for the entertainment of others
Zoos are bad. If they care about the animal they should setup a wild life reserve.
Breeding endangered animals (like Panda's) is also justified, there is no reason an Elephant or lion should be in a zoo. They are kept in a prison simply for human enjoyment to look at these animals, without going to their natural home in Africa instead.
I'm all for animal rights, but I do think zoos could be justifiable as an animal has a much higher probability of survival in a zoo then they do in the wild bt on the counter-attack argument, what is survival worth if its depressing and pointless?
I think if life in a Zoo is no longer depressing and pointless they can be justified, but this must follow strict rules:
1. All species in a zoo must be native to the area
I don't think zoos are right. YES, I do think that protecting endangered animals is good. BUT NOT letting them be tormented by humans. Zoos should NOT be available for the public to watch animals all day, but to rescue animals.
Shuuut up! The FWCZ is a very nice zoo. They do enrichment and some zoos are really bad. If you see a wild animal in a zoo or outside of a sancuary or zoo, call Black Pine Animal Park!
@MoonDragon1313 "Compromised Survivorship in ZooElephants" by Ros Clubb; published in Science magazine December 2008. This article gives clear evidence that elephants along with other large animal breeds have diminished life expectancy when they are not living in the free roaming grasslands where they belong.
@iloveprairiedogs And by the way the definition of a zoo (which after all is what we were talking about) is not an animal sanctuary or a place to help animals
Zoo definition: the facility where wild animals are housed for exhibition. < THAT WILL NEVER BE EXCEPT-ABLE.
@iloveprairiedogs Are you saying you agree with them because they are keeping some species from becoming extinct? It doesn't justify being locked up in a cage. Nothing ever will justify it. I obviously don't agree in hunting either and that should be made illegal. Forcing an animal into a cage because it may be poached, is not a good enough reason. Surely we should correct the issue from the initial problem? Hunters. Not do a quick fix, keeping the animals alive but throwing them in a cage.
@sam8110 For one thing zoos are in many ways more focussed on the preservation of a species than the individual animal, secondly research done zoos is highly important in conservation, thirdly many zoos are responsible for the conservation being done in wild habitats, including wild releases. Here's a fact for you- do you know what funds the conservation in South Africa? Hunting permits. Sick isn't it? Watch my video on conservation on my channel, conservation is far from black and white.
@iloveprairiedogs But they hurt the animals by taking them into an unnatural enviroment and putting a cage around them. I thought we were all for freedom? Why does that not apply to other species as well?!
"fed dead rats" THIER FRICKING SNAKES!!!! I FEED ALL OF MY SNAKES DEAD RATS!!! THATS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO!!!! If you feed them LIVE ANIMALS they could be seriously injured. Lol this person doesn't know what the FRICK they are talking about.
Ok, it is true that some zoos treat their animals like shit and have small enclosures. BUT. I have seen many zoos where the animals are perfectly happy, and healthy. They don't pace, or show any sign of stress.
British Zoos are fine. Some zoos in other countries are cruel. But the truth is that in Britain animals have plenty of room to run around, on display 8/24 houres a day, feed natural food, grass not concrete, shelters, Plenty of things to do. In other countries it is different. The 11 different zoos i have been to in England have good enclosures and happy active animals
British Zoos are fine. Some zoos in other countries are cruel. But the truth is that in Britain animals have plenty of room to run around, on display 8/24 houres a day, feed natural food, grass not concrete, shelters, Plenty of things to do. In other countries it is different. The 11 different zoos i have been to in England have good enclosures and happy active animals
Most zoos are good. There are zoos that are bad though. zoos help educate the public on taking care of the enviorment and breed animals with low populations.Who ever makes videos saying all zoos are bad needs to get their facts straight.
@chickeninthetoilet And I agree with you too but many zoos that people call "good" by 21st century standards STILL aren't sucessfully exhibiting animals. I question the need to even exhibit animals at all, I would rather see millions used in zoo's to be put towards funding and parks for native animals, rather than shipping say tigers to australia, or elephants to australia, they could use the money more wisely.
As for keeping animals for the future, we need to reconsider how we are doing this.
@chickeninthetoilet Yeah they arent always on display, but thats because you have in africa human populations putting stress on wild animal ones, already we see this occuring with lion species and many others, even gorrilas and yes the rhino! Im sure you know this, im just putting it up because many people still deny this.
Many zoos are prisons, and my previous comments allude to why. A facility for education and conservation, I will say they do some things to achieve this, but many dont.
@Missrainbowmuffin Wow! I have to say first of all, you seem like a very mature person to be debating with. So thank-you. Anyway, to start off, it would be hard to protect species on their own turf with poachers, bad governments, logging, etc... Also, I live in the U.S and i've heard (I don't know if it's actually true) that the U.S has better standards for zoos. Also, you are TOTALLY right. Many zoos just plain suck. However, people shouldn't condemn zoos all together. There are some good ones.
@Wickedskater44 Oh cheers dude! Same to you! I know you care just as much as I do, I just seriously wonder how "good" zoo's today actually are. Space in the wild never compares to captivity as far as I am concerned. One example is the seemingly great space for chimps and gorillas, or even seals, elephants...now consider even a large zoo, that (to me) is nothing like what those animals would be experiencing in their wild envrionment, its like putting humans in a large house for their enitre life
@Wickedskater44 It depend on your definition on what makes a "good" or "bad" zoo aswell. The standards vary from person to person, which is what we are debating about, whether "good" zoos are actually good or not.
Btw here is my email marylasher122@gmail.com, please do contact me there, seeing as these comments pages are too small and I would love to know more about American zoos compared to Australian ones.
@Missrainbowmuffin Also, when iv'e worked and been close with some of the animals at the Denver Zoo (yes, that's the zoo in this video) they are truly happy, energetic and fun. Oh! and in the video, they show primates holding onto bars however, if you turn the camera a little, you'll see a sprawling yard with rocks, logs, a stream and plenty of space for swinging in the trees. And the seal enclosure is actually really big. In fact, we just got a baby seal named Luci. True, Zoos do have some
@Wickedskater44 Yeah you know at Taronga zoo the gorilla and chimp exhibit has the same deal going on, and yes I never questioned the chimp's behvaviour because I have seen wild chimps carry on and play in such a way before. However, compare the natural and captive lifestyles. Yes captive animals live longer, it doesnt mean its better. There are many aspects to consider which I understand very well, I am most concerned with space for wild animals in a zoo envrionment.
@Wickedskater44 Okay I saw your comment "the seal enclosure is actually really big"...how big and what vegetation is included? Taronga zoo has expanded their seal/s enclosures too and yes it is big. But my local zoo only has about 6 seals, most of which have an enclosure all to themselves or in pairs, some different species together. They also dont have any natural vegetation, just fake rocks and lots of space, areas to bask in the sun, and fed alot of fish/squid. Its still nothing like the wild
@Missrainbowmuffin bad exhibits, but those are from the 1900's when zoos were actually terrible. Zoos all over are trying to build new and better exhibits but money is hard to come by these days. (At least in the U.S) I don't know how it is in Australia. Well, that's all for now. Please reply!
@Wickedskater44 Money hard to come by these days? Pfft, Taronga zoo spent over 40 million for new asian elephants to be exhibited...they get enough money and in my opinion did not spend it wisely. By housing elephants in seemingly "natural envrionment" remember that elehants in zoo's dont get enough room, at least in Taronga they dont, using bullhooks and claiming to be "saving the species" it only continues to create a false vision of hope. They can do much better with the resources they have.
@Wickedskater44 Yes the situation varies from country to country, state to state, etc. I realise this, that still doesnt mean its okay to put wild animals in an exhibit, "good" or "bad". I know zoos, well not all, but some do try to progress in one way or another for the animal's/species wellbeing. I am not saying they don't, I am saying they often fail to achieve what they set out to do.
@Missrainbowmuffin Well, like I said before, moneys getting hard to come by in the U.S. I've heard it's better in Aus. I don't know for sure though. Anyway, The pool for the seals is about 15 meters squared. It doesn't have any vegetation, but they're harbor seals. They never see that much vegetation in the arctic. We also exhibit sea lions. They're exhibit is about three times larger than the seal pool. The sea lions have several trees and bushes in the exhibit.
@Missrainbowmuffin That's one thing that bugs me about zoos! Some animals are exhibited alone. If your going to put the seal in an exhibit, at least give it a friend. Anyway, one thing about helping animals in zoos is that breeding programs really do succeed. The San Diego Zoo bred 20 condors into a population of 100. Those numbers aren't exact. And the Phoenix Zoo bred arabian oryxes from a herd of 13 to hundreds of individuals.
@Missrainbowmuffin I guess I should tell you what zoos I've been to. I work at the Denver Zoo, and I've been to the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo, Indianapolis Zoo and the North Carolina Zoo. Of course, I haven't visited as many as you have so I don't have as much... experience I guess you could say. All of the zoo's gave the animals plenty of room and had great breeding success, especially with elephants. Except the Cheyenne Zoo. It's family owned and the primate exhibit is awful!!!!
@Missrainbowmuffin Now breeding isn't a great thing to debate about because it's so overused. but i thought I would put it out there. So i had no idea the Taronga zoo was bad. I heard it was the best in Australia. You can't believe everything you read. oh well. So would you like me to reply to you by email next time? This discussion is invigorating. Well, im going to bed. Its midnight here in the United States. Hope to talk to you soon.
@chickeninthetoilet False, many zoos do still look like they are stuck in the 70s. Ever been to thailand? Your views would change, and even here in Australia we have enclosures older than me, yes, over 20 years old and still housing the same species in unfit enclosures for our "entertainment" or "amusement"....now im not saying all zoos do this, but many as I have seen still do.
So no, zoos do not always "Care" as you claim so much. Yes snakes are fed that way, but often in tiny exhibits!
@chickeninthetoilet Okay so from this comment you are saying animals, wild animals like a lion or meercat, an ape or anything needs to be shown and fed the food upfront?? Have you watched wild animals, even domesticated ones find food before? its more natural and healthy for a lion lets say to hunt to keep its natural needs satisfied. im not saying put a live deer in a zoo..im saying that zoos arent satisfying their basic needs/instincts, hence why they pace and become bored!
@chickeninthetoilet Barriers, walls, fences contain and present the animals for our "Education" as you say, or as some say "Entertainment". The dens and burrows are often viewed by at my zoo in australia, Taronga Zoo, for breeding purposes usually, such as the wombat and platypus. People do make the claim of a "longing for freedom" because many animals in zoo's show other signs of stress and boredom, a lack of space to roam like in the wild is to blame. But resting is what zoo animals always do
@chickeninthetoilet Yes the zoo i visit is clean too! Yes kangaroos do rest at my zoo too, I am Australian so Taronga zoo is the one I am referencing. People make the statements because there are "sappy", moreso horrific stories of animals being abused in captivity. False story? Depends on which one...Yes these animals are wild and not tame, hence why I dont advocate my zoo which yes is clean but animals still pace, suffer boredom and stress. Hygiene isnt the only issue, mental state is too
For those of you who say captivity isn't cruel what do you say about social animals that are sometimes kept alone such as an elephant ? Imagine how lonely this is for that animal. Or how about the lion that hunts in the wild being hand fed by zoo keepers? Imagine how bored these animals get seeing the same space day after day after day. Put your self in their place - taken from your natural home put in a habitat that might be close but will never be your natural home sometimes alone and bored.
@ngbxo The problem here is you are applying higher brain function to a beast. I can't put myself in their place because I am a human being and my brain capacity is vastly superior to that of even the most clever animals. The truth is some zoos are pretty awful but many help in conservation, study, breeding endangered species, and allow people to see animals they don't otherwise see (and thus, allowing them to actually care about whether those animals go extinct or not by connecting them to it).
Worse than this is dolphins who should live in vast three (at least) dimensional worlds (and are highly intelligent) - and yet are told to do tricks for food in swimming pools. Keep wildlife in the wild.
Have you ever thought that those animals were sleeping cause they were tired? Lions in the wild sleep twenty hours a day! Plus, pacing isn't a sign of frustration. Believe it or not, that's a myth. Zoos are under construction to provide better exhibits! Remember those pictures of the monkeys sitting next to bars? Move the camera a few feet to the right and there will be an exhibit with a waterfall and vegetation! Please reply tikihobbs. I'd like to have a peaceful discussion with you.
@Wickedskater44 Well no shit animals get tired and sleep, but in a zoo thats basically it...yeah you get a few toys, some room, maybe if your lucky! Depending on the zoo and your species, the situation is not always the same.
My points to you are simply trying to say that your defence in zoos being "helpful" can be rebuted by my observations and research into zoos that have what you claim to be good, but in fact are not! Please discuss all you like :)
@Missrainbowmuffin Let me ask you this... what zoos have you actually been to? Plus, you don't know what lengths certain zoos go to to keep animals happy. I happen to work at a zoo over the summer and the animals have it great.
@Wickedskater44 Zoos I have been to: Adelaide Zoo, Various Wildlife parks across Australia, Taronga Zoo, Dubbo Zoo, Thai Zoos I have looked into American Zoos, wildlife parks abroad and sancturaires (excuse the spelling!). I would have also worked at a zoo but I would rather not condone the poor actions Targona Zoo, the closest one to me made when it came to treating asian elephants. Yes they claim (I talk to keepers whenever I go) exactly what you do, yet the animals pace and they use bullhooks
@Wickedskater44 Oh yes and Featherdale Wildlife Park, a small zoo that notoriously claims the same things you do, as do people who go there. It is a zoo based around native Australian animals, mostly birds, kangaroos and the like. Just because you worked for a zoo over the summer in (I am assuming) ONE zoo, doesnt mean your statement holds true. Sure animals can be well fed and looked after, even show signs of enjoyment in zoos, as do many at Taronga Zoo and others, doesnt mean they always are.
@Wickedskater44 What I am trying to point out is that even zoos that have the best care for animals, still lag behind in many ways. I am not saying that EVERY SINGLE ZOO DOES...but the ones I have looked into always say "the animals are happy!" and so do workers like yourself. That leads me to wonder...since many still dont upgrade facilities and when they do they might be bigger but lack natural simulation like the Taronga zoo expansion for elephants and seals.
@Wickedskater44 Oh and to answer you, yes I actually do know the lengths keepers go to "keep animals happy". It varies at each zoo. Taronga use alot of treats, toys and set up parcels at christmas with special food for some species of animals like the meercat and even lions. I understand that they are looked after and keepers always sound so loving and many very well do care for the animals...this doesn't mean the zoo is good, sure its great they "Care" I just question zoos in general.
@Wickedskater44 Oh and finally, you worked in one zoo I suppose, and while the animals might have it better than others, this doesnt mean zoos should be advocated. Now dont go saying OMG OMG but they save species!!! Yes I am all for biodiversity and helping conserve species, but not all zoos do this well and effectivley, alot of money is wasted when in fact species could of been saved in their natural habitat, especially considering how much money is used just to ship say thai elephants to aus
@Wickedskater44 Sorry to hog the comments! XD But my last little thing here is this: It is a difficult situation when zoos are regulated by their own country or states or privately owned basis, so ofcourse we have some "better" than others for animal species wellbeing. But, I question even those that claim to be "better" seeing as many people seem to think they are perfectly fine, yet I have found zoos that seem to portray are radiant loving care, but would rather spend than fund a species
@Wickedskater44 And yes before you pick me up on this, I understand often the better option is a sancturary/zoo/park of somesort...especially when you cannot protect the species on it's own home turf. Thats where you can point the finger at lazy governments too! Anwyays I am out for now, please reply to what I have said, would love to know how zoos can be good for animals from your perspective ^.^
didnt give a reason why its animal cruelty, people say its animal cruelty because they've been watching too much lifetime and disney where they have to come up with ideas that are based on lies so they can put stuff on their shows
I don't understand how people can watch this video or even go or pass by zoos and not cry or break down inside. I will never understand how parents take their children to zoos "for a day of fun." SAD! Heart breaking! Animals have rights. We give our domesticated animals more freedom than our wild ones! I hope people who support zoos are one day locked up themselves!
I see what you are saying in this video. But this video shows zoos with GREAT enclosures compared to what is out there... "Human fed" is better than not being fed at all.
Some of these make sense lots of them looks like the maker of the video was just trying to find something. Such as "loss of motivation" some could call that sleeping. Or "A barn- not the wilderness" well they do need some shelter. Or "always under construction" you just finished complaining about a barn now your complaining when they try and make it real. "tamed by mankind" animals in zoos attack people. "forced to lay on own feces" who's forcing them. You repeat lots. I could go on.
Yes lots of zoos suck and lots should be shut down. However zoos also help allot in conservation. It is near impossible to stop poaching and destruction of habitat is causing population declines. We are the cause of animals being endangered and we are responsible for fixing the problems we caused. Zoos are vital in conservation and breeding programs to make a big gene pool. It is pointless to release tigers if they all get shot in the wild. It is better to build up there population then release.
They should all be in their natural habitat, not kept in captivity for our entertainment OR education....they're living things, they deserve their fucking freedom
Also, most animals are traded from other zoos, born in zoos, or have been injured and can not go back to the wild at all.
ava - No, all zoos are not privately owned, and the majority of animals at zoos are endangered. Zoos do not murder animals either. They buy the food for their animals.
Seraphic is right. The future of many animals depends on zoos.
Once again, everything I'm saying is about the GOOD zoos, like the one I work at. Bad zoos should be shut down, I agree.
@GoldieGlitters Wow. I'm not even going to try and respond to this. It'd be like arguing with the wind. *Sigh* You people need to learn that not EVERY zoo is an inhumane one. Oh well. Ignorance is bliss, so they say.
Some zoos are bad, of course. Animals should never be put in tiny cages. THOSE zoos should be shut down, like iloveprairiedogs said. But many zoos are good. What avasheridan1987 said was entirely untrue, except for the absolute worst situations and that is mostly circuses and very low budget zoos.
Zoos, the good ones, try to preserve animals and educate the public about how they can help preserve animals too.
abuse,n condemn them 2 a lifetime of boredom,taunting n living in close prozximity 2 animals that in the wild would eat them.They live in fear.U like being stared at all day?, never goin anywhere different?, being put in a small room n forced 2 breed with another animal u dont want 2 breed with cos some1 says so?,They kill the baby animals or use them as live food 4 the carnivores, n 99% of zoo animals R not endangered.
Even London Zoo which isthe ''best'' zoo in the world R cruel.TheRE confined,bored,taunted,n livin in an weird environment,all zoos R privetly owned,99% of zoo animals R not even endangerd so zoos R stupid.And even if the animals were, most animal species don tbreed well in due to captivity stress.Their swapped,traded across the globe when their zoo is tired of them,endIn up in circuses n roadside zoos.They kill the birds/rodents babies cos they dont need them,n feed them to the zoos cats.
There are many bad zoos, and there are many good zoos. There are probably more bad zoos. It all depends on the owner. One zoo in china had a pair of bears in cage so small they couldnt turn aroun :O
we have millions of people in prison who scream how much they hate it. they constantly make tv shows and documentaries about the sickening conditions of supermax facilities and solitary confinement. prisoners kill guards just like animals kill zookeepers.
the owners know its cruel, they just dont give a fuck. theyre making too much money.
zoos are used to help breed endangered species. Zoos have to use flagship species like tigers and lions in order to generate interest in the zoo to help generate funds to help conserve these species. Conservation isn't free. It's either extinction or slow re-introduction from a zoo.
Thats a load of bullshit. It is not radical to believe animals should be free and not stuck in a cage for your family day out at the bloody zoo. They are pacing for a reason. Species should be cared for and looked after if needed in their own country, they do NOT need to brought over here. It is sickening that us humans think we can take what we bloody want regardless. All we do is take take take.
Excuse me??I think your ignorant views show just how childish you are for a middle aged man.You clearly have not done your research.
I never denied animals weren't bred into captivity. They have still been taken from their natural habitat whether born there or not. So because they know no different does that mean it is right? What a bullshit and ignorant comment. If you were born into a prison is that then ok? I mean, let's be truthful, you wouldn't know any different so why would it matter?
Hyperactive ranting? I am extremely passionate about the welfare and respect of animals and its the one thing that makes my blood boil. That is why my comments reflect anger because that is how i feel. My age means absolutely nothing and using my age tells me you don't have much to say on the matter because you are showing signs of getting defensive. If you want to use age i could say, your views are extremely out of touch and i could suggest you see the light.
So the video clips are fake then are they? No love, it doesn't matter whether the person who made the film knows anything about zoos or not, these clips are real and these animals should not be kept in cages, which these clips clearly show. I dont know if you have noticed but the title of this video is 'Zoo's, are they cruel?' I am responding to the question just as you did, you unintelligent hypocrite. The fact that i am 22 and you a middle aged man makes no difference what so ever.
My emotions have nothing to do with this matter. It is not on a moral basis that i have these views, it is simple logic. It is logic to me that you do not keep wild animals who's lives are typically spent in a vast lands of desert and terrain in a small cage. It is logic that us humans do not have the right to keep these animals in these conditions far away from their natural habitat for your own selfish amusement.
It is logic that if animals need helping they should do in their own country and habitat in conservations, not in england a country that these animals are not designed to live in. It is logic that us humans being merely another animal but with the intelligence and cognitive thought that we have, should use this to help these animals and if need be look after them in conservations which then they would be rehabilitated.
Not take them from their habitat and from their world where they are put into cages where humans daily will come and gawk at them. These animals you see in Zoos are not sick and injured and therefore brought to England because they cannot survive in the wild. They are brought to england for your own amusement. Don't be unintelligent. If these Zoo keepers really wanted to help these animals it is simple LOGIC that they would not take them away from their natural habitat.
You need to ask the person who made this video where these terrible zoo's are, but to me a zoo is a zoo, it is a prison. It is being locked up away from your home and species. It is not RIGHT. Zoos are there for the animals to be exhibited to the public like objects.That is the definition of a Zoo.You cannot honestly tell me that is right.Morally and logically that is incorrect.There is also no exception for animals to be mistreated.The same way there is no exception for humans to be mistreated.
Poachers is another subject, but if an animal becomes naturally extinct that is sad but also much better than the animal living an unhappy life in what can only be described as a prison where is not allowed to be free and live in its natural habitat. As long as these creatures have lived a happy life, that is all that you can ask for.
why should we take them out of their natural habitat and home and stick in a cage for you to gawk at?? What right do we have to do that? you would be a fool to think that is right. You can watch tv and see these animals happy in their own environment. Its sick that us humans can think we can take anything we want regardless. I certainly dont want to stare at an animal thats life is in a cage millions of miles away from where it is meant to be.
Because all you are interested in is having the animal in a zoo so that you can stare at it.Even though you are able to see these animals on television, in books etc. Surely if you are that keen on animals and have any interest or respect for them you would want them to be free in their natural habitat with other species alike.Can you honestly not see that?We don't have a right to take these animals and put them in small cages.The same way you would not want to be taken and locked away in a cage
I see, it is easy to agree to the widely conceived notion that these animals are being 'helped' but is that natural? We 'help' them by placing them in cages etc, when in the wild they would pass due to nature as nature gives and takes life. No one should be playing god. Especially not like this. The conditions they live in are awful. Your video makes me cry everytime I watch it, for each one of us, on some level, live in cages like prisoners. No one is free. Love you Tiki!!!!
Yes, zoos are prisons. In addition, Jack Hannah (of the Columbus Zoo), and I'm certain other cretins like him sell the zoos 'surplus' animals to canned hunts for profit.
I guess some zoos are okay, but the inhumane treatment of God's creatures, i will never understand..it's a sad story, and happens all over this planet...they when a caretaker is killed by an animal doing it's instinct, the animal is killed. I know of a lady in texas that protects cheetahs, and she got some bites/scratches a couple weeks ago, and would NOT put that cat down...she's brave, compassionate, and gutsy, at that!
Want to make things better for all of us? Be constructive, be solution oriented, not problem oriented. Clean up your own act first and lead by example. Think globally, embrace everyone. For an encouraging step in an exciting direction: google 3D Networking.
Sincere? cut the propaganda & distortion. Compare a human nursery! There aren't wild spaces for many zoo animals to ever go to. Zoos strive to steward these animals into a better future where there is a wilderness for them. Vid says all it shows is bad. Look again: Bang marks - sometimes animals want IN! Animals watched? The lion chooses to lie near & watch back. Without zoos, many wouldn't have the connection to animals to care to listen to you. Want to be constructive? Help.
What planet are you living on????? Where their is wilderness for them !!!! man is destroying their habitat so were are they going to be "put back into".Zoos are profit making machines.If animals have to be "incarserated" then look at wild life parks, at least they give the animal space. theirs no Zoo on earth thats good for any animal. and very few are conservation concerned. as theirs no natural habitat to reintroduce them into, zoos are animal prisons .
WOW What a load of utter bullshit. There is always space and enough of their natural habitat for them to live in what a STUPID thing to say. Zoos do NOT strive these animals to a better future, being kept in a cage all their life is not a future. They are only there for your own amusement and 'family day out'. We took them animals from the wild for people like you to gawk at and that makes me sick.
The lion does not choose to be watched, it doesn't have a choice, its in cage you moron. You do NOT need to see an animal in a cage to feel a connection and to care for animals. I have never been to a zoo yet i feel so passionate about animals and have so much respect that im a vegetarian. You talk utter rubbish, there is never any excuse for an animal to be kept in a cage, thousands of miles away from its natural home for the amusement of you.
Zoos, are they cruel? This video provides stills and video for everyone to see what you don't notice on your family trip to to the zoo. Should we have a zoo in every city? Many zoos go unregulated animals suffer, not every zoo has caretakers like Dragonwalkerart here.
Our animals are kept in clean and enriching environments. We interact with them as much as possible, and discipline any visitors that show disrespect. We given them plenty of hiding from the public so that they cannot be taunted and always have an alternative.
Sometimes pacing at a door is just a sign that there is a keeper there preparing some tasty morsel for them. Also some pacing, as in cats (not bears) is a sign that they are guarding their territory and you will often see them marking.
I study zoos all over the world and I see your attitude in most of the zoos in countries where there is enough money to keep the zoos well. In the poor countries, it can be bad, but it's bad for the people also. Zoos can give people a chance to learn to care about animals that they might otherwise never even know about. Then, hopefully, they'll make choices to help and protect animals in the wild.
Good people like you are working in zoos. The future of many animals rests with zoos.
I admit that zoos are not the ideal way to keep animals, and certain species should be phased out, such as elephants. There is never an excuse for enclosures to be cramped and/or dirty, but as a keeper I see all the good things too. I take care of newts that were being smuggled into the country illegally, many died, but they are doing really well and even bred (a sign of ideal conditions with amphibians). We also have Amur Leopards that are being slaughtered in the wild, only 20 remain there.
Shame...Shame...Shame... on all you idiots who are involved with locking up these innocent animals. You make me sick
ezcruiser2001 1 week ago
how would people like if an alien pick u up put u in a cage took you away from your friends and familey then put you on display to ramdon creatures in a small house(well a house is like humans natruale enviroment) with only one other human that you did'nt know and was from a differnt part of the world that did'nt speack your langue, your forced to eat what they give you and your locked away untill you die just for the entertainment of others
Theman10092 1 month ago
Zoos are bad. If they care about the animal they should setup a wild life reserve.
Breeding endangered animals (like Panda's) is also justified, there is no reason an Elephant or lion should be in a zoo. They are kept in a prison simply for human enjoyment to look at these animals, without going to their natural home in Africa instead.
crazywaffleking 1 month ago
I'm all for animal rights, but I do think zoos could be justifiable as an animal has a much higher probability of survival in a zoo then they do in the wild bt on the counter-attack argument, what is survival worth if its depressing and pointless?
I think if life in a Zoo is no longer depressing and pointless they can be justified, but this must follow strict rules:
1. All species in a zoo must be native to the area
2. They must have miles of free-space
3. They must have the right to leave
deanmullen10 2 months ago
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I don't think zoos are right. YES, I do think that protecting endangered animals is good. BUT NOT letting them be tormented by humans. Zoos should NOT be available for the public to watch animals all day, but to rescue animals.
DeadlikeaPixel 4 months ago
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DeadlikeaPixel 4 months ago
we have a responsibility to protect other animals.. think about it
they can't speak for themselves
ssips720 4 months ago
If you think zoos are conservationist you are fucking naive
sam8110 5 months ago
@iloveprairiedogs
How do zoos help animals? What do you mean by a "good home"?
veggiewarriors 8 months ago
Shuuut up! The FWCZ is a very nice zoo. They do enrichment and some zoos are really bad. If you see a wild animal in a zoo or outside of a sancuary or zoo, call Black Pine Animal Park!
MoonDragon1313 9 months ago
@MoonDragon1313 Oh, and animals live longer in captivity than the wilderness
MoonDragon1313 9 months ago
@MoonDragon1313 "Compromised Survivorship in ZooElephants" by Ros Clubb; published in Science magazine December 2008. This article gives clear evidence that elephants along with other large animal breeds have diminished life expectancy when they are not living in the free roaming grasslands where they belong.
KramerUSA 4 months ago
Zoos are good and bad but i cant decide!
spungle54 9 months ago
There was a pet store that sold reptiles and you could pay 1 dollar to see a snake eat a dead rat.
My point is that snakes swallow there food hole! This includes rats!
NonstopRam 10 months ago
i saw this video while doing a project for english and i had to decide whether zoos where good or bad.
I think this helped me make my decision
drummersaredabest 11 months ago
@iloveprairiedogs And by the way the definition of a zoo (which after all is what we were talking about) is not an animal sanctuary or a place to help animals
Zoo definition: the facility where wild animals are housed for exhibition. < THAT WILL NEVER BE EXCEPT-ABLE.
sam8110 11 months ago
@iloveprairiedogs Are you saying you agree with them because they are keeping some species from becoming extinct? It doesn't justify being locked up in a cage. Nothing ever will justify it. I obviously don't agree in hunting either and that should be made illegal. Forcing an animal into a cage because it may be poached, is not a good enough reason. Surely we should correct the issue from the initial problem? Hunters. Not do a quick fix, keeping the animals alive but throwing them in a cage.
sam8110 11 months ago
@sam8110 For one thing zoos are in many ways more focussed on the preservation of a species than the individual animal, secondly research done zoos is highly important in conservation, thirdly many zoos are responsible for the conservation being done in wild habitats, including wild releases. Here's a fact for you- do you know what funds the conservation in South Africa? Hunting permits. Sick isn't it? Watch my video on conservation on my channel, conservation is far from black and white.
iansheridan123 6 months ago
@iloveprairiedogs But they hurt the animals by taking them into an unnatural enviroment and putting a cage around them. I thought we were all for freedom? Why does that not apply to other species as well?!
sam8110 11 months ago
Lol "Licking cage sign of boredem and frustration"... really? This person has no frick what they are talking bout
Thefuzz17901 11 months ago
This really shows the truth of zoos. I will spread words, thank you!
FreeDolphins2010 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this, I've always agreed. They never volunteered to do this.
sjguitarking 1 year ago
"fed dead rats" THIER FRICKING SNAKES!!!! I FEED ALL OF MY SNAKES DEAD RATS!!! THATS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO!!!! If you feed them LIVE ANIMALS they could be seriously injured. Lol this person doesn't know what the FRICK they are talking about.
repticman123 1 year ago
Ok, it is true that some zoos treat their animals like shit and have small enclosures. BUT. I have seen many zoos where the animals are perfectly happy, and healthy. They don't pace, or show any sign of stress.
repticman123 1 year ago
replay, replay, replay
i love your video!
Im doing a project on zoos too. about whether they are unethical or not.
:D
Starzooka 1 year ago
what is the name of the music you are playing?
Starzooka 1 year ago
British Zoos are fine. Some zoos in other countries are cruel. But the truth is that in Britain animals have plenty of room to run around, on display 8/24 houres a day, feed natural food, grass not concrete, shelters, Plenty of things to do. In other countries it is different. The 11 different zoos i have been to in England have good enclosures and happy active animals
mrJimmydibson 1 year ago
@mrJimmydibson European and North American zoo's are most fine as other continents beside Asia, I agree. Asian zoo's have no goodness in them.
Samegoldays 2 months ago
British Zoos are fine. Some zoos in other countries are cruel. But the truth is that in Britain animals have plenty of room to run around, on display 8/24 houres a day, feed natural food, grass not concrete, shelters, Plenty of things to do. In other countries it is different. The 11 different zoos i have been to in England have good enclosures and happy active animals
mrJimmydibson 1 year ago
When i make a Zoo ima make a FREEDOM zoo so all of the animals can be free , Feed and not trusty
PedroyItatiFan 1 year ago
Most zoos are good. There are zoos that are bad though. zoos help educate the public on taking care of the enviorment and breed animals with low populations.Who ever makes videos saying all zoos are bad needs to get their facts straight.
osamasdrama 1 year ago
@chickeninthetoilet And I agree with you too but many zoos that people call "good" by 21st century standards STILL aren't sucessfully exhibiting animals. I question the need to even exhibit animals at all, I would rather see millions used in zoo's to be put towards funding and parks for native animals, rather than shipping say tigers to australia, or elephants to australia, they could use the money more wisely.
As for keeping animals for the future, we need to reconsider how we are doing this.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@chickeninthetoilet Yeah they arent always on display, but thats because you have in africa human populations putting stress on wild animal ones, already we see this occuring with lion species and many others, even gorrilas and yes the rhino! Im sure you know this, im just putting it up because many people still deny this.
Many zoos are prisons, and my previous comments allude to why. A facility for education and conservation, I will say they do some things to achieve this, but many dont.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin Wow! I have to say first of all, you seem like a very mature person to be debating with. So thank-you. Anyway, to start off, it would be hard to protect species on their own turf with poachers, bad governments, logging, etc... Also, I live in the U.S and i've heard (I don't know if it's actually true) that the U.S has better standards for zoos. Also, you are TOTALLY right. Many zoos just plain suck. However, people shouldn't condemn zoos all together. There are some good ones.
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Oh cheers dude! Same to you! I know you care just as much as I do, I just seriously wonder how "good" zoo's today actually are. Space in the wild never compares to captivity as far as I am concerned. One example is the seemingly great space for chimps and gorillas, or even seals, elephants...now consider even a large zoo, that (to me) is nothing like what those animals would be experiencing in their wild envrionment, its like putting humans in a large house for their enitre life
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@Wickedskater44 It depend on your definition on what makes a "good" or "bad" zoo aswell. The standards vary from person to person, which is what we are debating about, whether "good" zoos are actually good or not.
Btw here is my email marylasher122@gmail.com, please do contact me there, seeing as these comments pages are too small and I would love to know more about American zoos compared to Australian ones.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin Also, when iv'e worked and been close with some of the animals at the Denver Zoo (yes, that's the zoo in this video) they are truly happy, energetic and fun. Oh! and in the video, they show primates holding onto bars however, if you turn the camera a little, you'll see a sprawling yard with rocks, logs, a stream and plenty of space for swinging in the trees. And the seal enclosure is actually really big. In fact, we just got a baby seal named Luci. True, Zoos do have some
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Yeah you know at Taronga zoo the gorilla and chimp exhibit has the same deal going on, and yes I never questioned the chimp's behvaviour because I have seen wild chimps carry on and play in such a way before. However, compare the natural and captive lifestyles. Yes captive animals live longer, it doesnt mean its better. There are many aspects to consider which I understand very well, I am most concerned with space for wild animals in a zoo envrionment.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Okay I saw your comment "the seal enclosure is actually really big"...how big and what vegetation is included? Taronga zoo has expanded their seal/s enclosures too and yes it is big. But my local zoo only has about 6 seals, most of which have an enclosure all to themselves or in pairs, some different species together. They also dont have any natural vegetation, just fake rocks and lots of space, areas to bask in the sun, and fed alot of fish/squid. Its still nothing like the wild
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin bad exhibits, but those are from the 1900's when zoos were actually terrible. Zoos all over are trying to build new and better exhibits but money is hard to come by these days. (At least in the U.S) I don't know how it is in Australia. Well, that's all for now. Please reply!
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Money hard to come by these days? Pfft, Taronga zoo spent over 40 million for new asian elephants to be exhibited...they get enough money and in my opinion did not spend it wisely. By housing elephants in seemingly "natural envrionment" remember that elehants in zoo's dont get enough room, at least in Taronga they dont, using bullhooks and claiming to be "saving the species" it only continues to create a false vision of hope. They can do much better with the resources they have.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Yes the situation varies from country to country, state to state, etc. I realise this, that still doesnt mean its okay to put wild animals in an exhibit, "good" or "bad". I know zoos, well not all, but some do try to progress in one way or another for the animal's/species wellbeing. I am not saying they don't, I am saying they often fail to achieve what they set out to do.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin Well, like I said before, moneys getting hard to come by in the U.S. I've heard it's better in Aus. I don't know for sure though. Anyway, The pool for the seals is about 15 meters squared. It doesn't have any vegetation, but they're harbor seals. They never see that much vegetation in the arctic. We also exhibit sea lions. They're exhibit is about three times larger than the seal pool. The sea lions have several trees and bushes in the exhibit.
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin That's one thing that bugs me about zoos! Some animals are exhibited alone. If your going to put the seal in an exhibit, at least give it a friend. Anyway, one thing about helping animals in zoos is that breeding programs really do succeed. The San Diego Zoo bred 20 condors into a population of 100. Those numbers aren't exact. And the Phoenix Zoo bred arabian oryxes from a herd of 13 to hundreds of individuals.
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin I guess I should tell you what zoos I've been to. I work at the Denver Zoo, and I've been to the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo, Indianapolis Zoo and the North Carolina Zoo. Of course, I haven't visited as many as you have so I don't have as much... experience I guess you could say. All of the zoo's gave the animals plenty of room and had great breeding success, especially with elephants. Except the Cheyenne Zoo. It's family owned and the primate exhibit is awful!!!!
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin Now breeding isn't a great thing to debate about because it's so overused. but i thought I would put it out there. So i had no idea the Taronga zoo was bad. I heard it was the best in Australia. You can't believe everything you read. oh well. So would you like me to reply to you by email next time? This discussion is invigorating. Well, im going to bed. Its midnight here in the United States. Hope to talk to you soon.
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@chickeninthetoilet False, many zoos do still look like they are stuck in the 70s. Ever been to thailand? Your views would change, and even here in Australia we have enclosures older than me, yes, over 20 years old and still housing the same species in unfit enclosures for our "entertainment" or "amusement"....now im not saying all zoos do this, but many as I have seen still do.
So no, zoos do not always "Care" as you claim so much. Yes snakes are fed that way, but often in tiny exhibits!
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@chickeninthetoilet Okay so from this comment you are saying animals, wild animals like a lion or meercat, an ape or anything needs to be shown and fed the food upfront?? Have you watched wild animals, even domesticated ones find food before? its more natural and healthy for a lion lets say to hunt to keep its natural needs satisfied. im not saying put a live deer in a zoo..im saying that zoos arent satisfying their basic needs/instincts, hence why they pace and become bored!
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@chickeninthetoilet Barriers, walls, fences contain and present the animals for our "Education" as you say, or as some say "Entertainment". The dens and burrows are often viewed by at my zoo in australia, Taronga Zoo, for breeding purposes usually, such as the wombat and platypus. People do make the claim of a "longing for freedom" because many animals in zoo's show other signs of stress and boredom, a lack of space to roam like in the wild is to blame. But resting is what zoo animals always do
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@chickeninthetoilet Yes the zoo i visit is clean too! Yes kangaroos do rest at my zoo too, I am Australian so Taronga zoo is the one I am referencing. People make the statements because there are "sappy", moreso horrific stories of animals being abused in captivity. False story? Depends on which one...Yes these animals are wild and not tame, hence why I dont advocate my zoo which yes is clean but animals still pace, suffer boredom and stress. Hygiene isnt the only issue, mental state is too
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
For those of you who say captivity isn't cruel what do you say about social animals that are sometimes kept alone such as an elephant ? Imagine how lonely this is for that animal. Or how about the lion that hunts in the wild being hand fed by zoo keepers? Imagine how bored these animals get seeing the same space day after day after day. Put your self in their place - taken from your natural home put in a habitat that might be close but will never be your natural home sometimes alone and bored.
ngbxo 1 year ago
@ngbxo The problem here is you are applying higher brain function to a beast. I can't put myself in their place because I am a human being and my brain capacity is vastly superior to that of even the most clever animals. The truth is some zoos are pretty awful but many help in conservation, study, breeding endangered species, and allow people to see animals they don't otherwise see (and thus, allowing them to actually care about whether those animals go extinct or not by connecting them to it).
Cajaquarius 1 year ago
Worse than this is dolphins who should live in vast three (at least) dimensional worlds (and are highly intelligent) - and yet are told to do tricks for food in swimming pools. Keep wildlife in the wild.
intherein 1 year ago
Yes they are.
AcaRainski 1 year ago
Have you ever thought that those animals were sleeping cause they were tired? Lions in the wild sleep twenty hours a day! Plus, pacing isn't a sign of frustration. Believe it or not, that's a myth. Zoos are under construction to provide better exhibits! Remember those pictures of the monkeys sitting next to bars? Move the camera a few feet to the right and there will be an exhibit with a waterfall and vegetation! Please reply tikihobbs. I'd like to have a peaceful discussion with you.
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Well no shit animals get tired and sleep, but in a zoo thats basically it...yeah you get a few toys, some room, maybe if your lucky! Depending on the zoo and your species, the situation is not always the same.
My points to you are simply trying to say that your defence in zoos being "helpful" can be rebuted by my observations and research into zoos that have what you claim to be good, but in fact are not! Please discuss all you like :)
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Missrainbowmuffin Let me ask you this... what zoos have you actually been to? Plus, you don't know what lengths certain zoos go to to keep animals happy. I happen to work at a zoo over the summer and the animals have it great.
Wickedskater44 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Zoos I have been to: Adelaide Zoo, Various Wildlife parks across Australia, Taronga Zoo, Dubbo Zoo, Thai Zoos I have looked into American Zoos, wildlife parks abroad and sancturaires (excuse the spelling!). I would have also worked at a zoo but I would rather not condone the poor actions Targona Zoo, the closest one to me made when it came to treating asian elephants. Yes they claim (I talk to keepers whenever I go) exactly what you do, yet the animals pace and they use bullhooks
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Oh yes and Featherdale Wildlife Park, a small zoo that notoriously claims the same things you do, as do people who go there. It is a zoo based around native Australian animals, mostly birds, kangaroos and the like. Just because you worked for a zoo over the summer in (I am assuming) ONE zoo, doesnt mean your statement holds true. Sure animals can be well fed and looked after, even show signs of enjoyment in zoos, as do many at Taronga Zoo and others, doesnt mean they always are.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 What I am trying to point out is that even zoos that have the best care for animals, still lag behind in many ways. I am not saying that EVERY SINGLE ZOO DOES...but the ones I have looked into always say "the animals are happy!" and so do workers like yourself. That leads me to wonder...since many still dont upgrade facilities and when they do they might be bigger but lack natural simulation like the Taronga zoo expansion for elephants and seals.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Oh and to answer you, yes I actually do know the lengths keepers go to "keep animals happy". It varies at each zoo. Taronga use alot of treats, toys and set up parcels at christmas with special food for some species of animals like the meercat and even lions. I understand that they are looked after and keepers always sound so loving and many very well do care for the animals...this doesn't mean the zoo is good, sure its great they "Care" I just question zoos in general.
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Oh and finally, you worked in one zoo I suppose, and while the animals might have it better than others, this doesnt mean zoos should be advocated. Now dont go saying OMG OMG but they save species!!! Yes I am all for biodiversity and helping conserve species, but not all zoos do this well and effectivley, alot of money is wasted when in fact species could of been saved in their natural habitat, especially considering how much money is used just to ship say thai elephants to aus
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 Sorry to hog the comments! XD But my last little thing here is this: It is a difficult situation when zoos are regulated by their own country or states or privately owned basis, so ofcourse we have some "better" than others for animal species wellbeing. But, I question even those that claim to be "better" seeing as many people seem to think they are perfectly fine, yet I have found zoos that seem to portray are radiant loving care, but would rather spend than fund a species
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
@Wickedskater44 And yes before you pick me up on this, I understand often the better option is a sancturary/zoo/park of somesort...especially when you cannot protect the species on it's own home turf. Thats where you can point the finger at lazy governments too! Anwyays I am out for now, please reply to what I have said, would love to know how zoos can be good for animals from your perspective ^.^
Missrainbowmuffin 1 year ago
didnt give a reason why its animal cruelty, people say its animal cruelty because they've been watching too much lifetime and disney where they have to come up with ideas that are based on lies so they can put stuff on their shows
MrHaterforyou 1 year ago
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MrHaterforyou 1 year ago
why?....
GNFS619916 1 year ago
I don't understand how people can watch this video or even go or pass by zoos and not cry or break down inside. I will never understand how parents take their children to zoos "for a day of fun." SAD! Heart breaking! Animals have rights. We give our domesticated animals more freedom than our wild ones! I hope people who support zoos are one day locked up themselves!
GoldieGlitters 1 year ago
I see what you are saying in this video. But this video shows zoos with GREAT enclosures compared to what is out there... "Human fed" is better than not being fed at all.
Sweltering 1 year ago
@iloveprairiedogs ya but its not natural. no zoo should stay in power unless there just helping animals then . .
radiolaugh 1 year ago
Some of these make sense lots of them looks like the maker of the video was just trying to find something. Such as "loss of motivation" some could call that sleeping. Or "A barn- not the wilderness" well they do need some shelter. Or "always under construction" you just finished complaining about a barn now your complaining when they try and make it real. "tamed by mankind" animals in zoos attack people. "forced to lay on own feces" who's forcing them. You repeat lots. I could go on.
b4igetu 1 year ago
Yes lots of zoos suck and lots should be shut down. However zoos also help allot in conservation. It is near impossible to stop poaching and destruction of habitat is causing population declines. We are the cause of animals being endangered and we are responsible for fixing the problems we caused. Zoos are vital in conservation and breeding programs to make a big gene pool. It is pointless to release tigers if they all get shot in the wild. It is better to build up there population then release.
b4igetu 1 year ago
why do animals have 2 deal with that it bs
daiaunleashed 1 year ago
i hate zoos pore animals
borisphx 2 years ago
They should all be in their natural habitat, not kept in captivity for our entertainment OR education....they're living things, they deserve their fucking freedom
InALoveTrance 2 years ago
Also, most animals are traded from other zoos, born in zoos, or have been injured and can not go back to the wild at all.
ava - No, all zoos are not privately owned, and the majority of animals at zoos are endangered. Zoos do not murder animals either. They buy the food for their animals.
Seraphic is right. The future of many animals depends on zoos.
Once again, everything I'm saying is about the GOOD zoos, like the one I work at. Bad zoos should be shut down, I agree.
SomeonewhoisFrench 2 years ago
@SomeonewhoisFrench All zoos should be shut down. I'm sure that animals would rather die and starve than locked up in cages and put on display.
GoldieGlitters 1 year ago
@GoldieGlitters Wow. I'm not even going to try and respond to this. It'd be like arguing with the wind. *Sigh* You people need to learn that not EVERY zoo is an inhumane one. Oh well. Ignorance is bliss, so they say.
SomeonewhoisFrench 1 year ago
Some zoos are bad, of course. Animals should never be put in tiny cages. THOSE zoos should be shut down, like iloveprairiedogs said. But many zoos are good. What avasheridan1987 said was entirely untrue, except for the absolute worst situations and that is mostly circuses and very low budget zoos.
Zoos, the good ones, try to preserve animals and educate the public about how they can help preserve animals too.
- Youth volunteer at the Knoxville Zoo
SomeonewhoisFrench 2 years ago
The pic of the gorilla at the end is really sad.
kokoroXwolfXshifter 2 years ago
Some zoos are terribly cruel, but not all. Some zoos are very good to their animals!
kokoroXwolfXshifter 2 years ago
Uhh dont snakes eat dead rats?
abcoffofme 2 years ago
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they kill them... and giving them already dead rats, takes away all the stimulation they could have..
peras3000 1 year ago
omfg soo disgusting fed dead rats
dnoful 2 years ago
ban zoos they bore animals but science need then to use them 4 experiment's bad huh?
dnoful 2 years ago
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Whats it? A swimming pool?? :'(
Humans swim in these, not animals....
rhcpkahnfan 2 years ago
LOL@seraphicsynergism Zoos murder,
capture,trade 2 circuses,roadside zoos,
abuse,n condemn them 2 a lifetime of boredom,taunting n living in close prozximity 2 animals that in the wild would eat them.They live in fear.U like being stared at all day?, never goin anywhere different?, being put in a small room n forced 2 breed with another animal u dont want 2 breed with cos some1 says so?,They kill the baby animals or use them as live food 4 the carnivores, n 99% of zoo animals R not endangered.
avasheridan1987 2 years ago
Even London Zoo which isthe ''best'' zoo in the world R cruel.TheRE confined,bored,taunted,n livin in an weird environment,all zoos R privetly owned,99% of zoo animals R not even endangerd so zoos R stupid.And even if the animals were, most animal species don tbreed well in due to captivity stress.Their swapped,traded across the globe when their zoo is tired of them,endIn up in circuses n roadside zoos.They kill the birds/rodents babies cos they dont need them,n feed them to the zoos cats.
avasheridan1987 2 years ago
There are many bad zoos, and there are many good zoos. There are probably more bad zoos. It all depends on the owner. One zoo in china had a pair of bears in cage so small they couldnt turn aroun :O
TreeHandThing 2 years ago 3
The only reason why people think its ok for animals to be in zoo's
is because the animals cant say how much they hate it.
emotionaloverdose47 2 years ago 17
we have millions of people in prison who scream how much they hate it. they constantly make tv shows and documentaries about the sickening conditions of supermax facilities and solitary confinement. prisoners kill guards just like animals kill zookeepers.
the owners know its cruel, they just dont give a fuck. theyre making too much money.
ZeroHourComes 2 years ago
@emotionaloverdose47 Wish we could understand animal language
HyperFoxIII 1 year ago
@emotionaloverdose47
zoos are used to help breed endangered species. Zoos have to use flagship species like tigers and lions in order to generate interest in the zoo to help generate funds to help conserve these species. Conservation isn't free. It's either extinction or slow re-introduction from a zoo.
chaosbringer127 5 months ago
wats the name of this song???
ericboy134 2 years ago
The name of this song is "One of These Mornings". It is sung by Pati Labelle.
mapscannotcontainme 2 years ago
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33Keith33 2 years ago
Thats a load of bullshit. It is not radical to believe animals should be free and not stuck in a cage for your family day out at the bloody zoo. They are pacing for a reason. Species should be cared for and looked after if needed in their own country, they do NOT need to brought over here. It is sickening that us humans think we can take what we bloody want regardless. All we do is take take take.
sam8110 2 years ago
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33Keith33 2 years ago
Excuse me??I think your ignorant views show just how childish you are for a middle aged man.You clearly have not done your research.
I never denied animals weren't bred into captivity. They have still been taken from their natural habitat whether born there or not. So because they know no different does that mean it is right? What a bullshit and ignorant comment. If you were born into a prison is that then ok? I mean, let's be truthful, you wouldn't know any different so why would it matter?
sam8110 2 years ago
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33Keith33 2 years ago
Hyperactive ranting? I am extremely passionate about the welfare and respect of animals and its the one thing that makes my blood boil. That is why my comments reflect anger because that is how i feel. My age means absolutely nothing and using my age tells me you don't have much to say on the matter because you are showing signs of getting defensive. If you want to use age i could say, your views are extremely out of touch and i could suggest you see the light.
sam8110 2 years ago
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sam8110 2 years ago
hmmm ur type right on that we CAN see them on tv in their natural habitat instead of them being caged up...ur right i never even saw that way...thanx
KARINinLaLaLand 2 years ago
Oh good.
sam8110 2 years ago
So the video clips are fake then are they? No love, it doesn't matter whether the person who made the film knows anything about zoos or not, these clips are real and these animals should not be kept in cages, which these clips clearly show. I dont know if you have noticed but the title of this video is 'Zoo's, are they cruel?' I am responding to the question just as you did, you unintelligent hypocrite. The fact that i am 22 and you a middle aged man makes no difference what so ever.
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sam8110 2 years ago
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My emotions have nothing to do with this matter. It is not on a moral basis that i have these views, it is simple logic. It is logic to me that you do not keep wild animals who's lives are typically spent in a vast lands of desert and terrain in a small cage. It is logic that us humans do not have the right to keep these animals in these conditions far away from their natural habitat for your own selfish amusement.
sam8110 2 years ago
It is logic that if animals need helping they should do in their own country and habitat in conservations, not in england a country that these animals are not designed to live in. It is logic that us humans being merely another animal but with the intelligence and cognitive thought that we have, should use this to help these animals and if need be look after them in conservations which then they would be rehabilitated.
sam8110 2 years ago
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Not take them from their habitat and from their world where they are put into cages where humans daily will come and gawk at them. These animals you see in Zoos are not sick and injured and therefore brought to England because they cannot survive in the wild. They are brought to england for your own amusement. Don't be unintelligent. If these Zoo keepers really wanted to help these animals it is simple LOGIC that they would not take them away from their natural habitat.
sam8110 2 years ago
You need to ask the person who made this video where these terrible zoo's are, but to me a zoo is a zoo, it is a prison. It is being locked up away from your home and species. It is not RIGHT. Zoos are there for the animals to be exhibited to the public like objects.That is the definition of a Zoo.You cannot honestly tell me that is right.Morally and logically that is incorrect.There is also no exception for animals to be mistreated.The same way there is no exception for humans to be mistreated.
sam8110 2 years ago
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Poachers is another subject, but if an animal becomes naturally extinct that is sad but also much better than the animal living an unhappy life in what can only be described as a prison where is not allowed to be free and live in its natural habitat. As long as these creatures have lived a happy life, that is all that you can ask for.
sam8110 2 years ago
i dont think zoos are cruel
how are we ever gonna be able to see an animal from the wild if not at the zoo??
if they're treated badly thats a different thing but at least these animals are safer than others
KARINinLaLaLand 3 years ago
why should we take them out of their natural habitat and home and stick in a cage for you to gawk at?? What right do we have to do that? you would be a fool to think that is right. You can watch tv and see these animals happy in their own environment. Its sick that us humans can think we can take anything we want regardless. I certainly dont want to stare at an animal thats life is in a cage millions of miles away from where it is meant to be.
sam8110 2 years ago
what a selfish and ignorant thing to say.
sam8110 2 years ago
what? how?..why do u say that?
KARINinLaLaLand 2 years ago
Because all you are interested in is having the animal in a zoo so that you can stare at it.Even though you are able to see these animals on television, in books etc. Surely if you are that keen on animals and have any interest or respect for them you would want them to be free in their natural habitat with other species alike.Can you honestly not see that?We don't have a right to take these animals and put them in small cages.The same way you would not want to be taken and locked away in a cage
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sam8110 2 years ago
Not all zoos ae like this. think of it as being in a hotel with service. yes there are some bad zoos, but good ones to.
grayshot77 3 years ago 2
hotel with service? yes, taken from your family, taken from your country, gawked at by people and locked up so you cannot get out. LOVELY.
sam8110 2 years ago
the only zoos that should be allowed are rehabillitation ones, or for animals that can never survive in the wild.
alysmini 3 years ago
exactly.
sam8110 2 years ago
I see, it is easy to agree to the widely conceived notion that these animals are being 'helped' but is that natural? We 'help' them by placing them in cages etc, when in the wild they would pass due to nature as nature gives and takes life. No one should be playing god. Especially not like this. The conditions they live in are awful. Your video makes me cry everytime I watch it, for each one of us, on some level, live in cages like prisoners. No one is free. Love you Tiki!!!!
l1ndsaystarr 3 years ago
it is really sad but some animals acully have too be in zoos they wouldn't make it in the wild!
LONGONht 3 years ago
Yes, zoos are prisons. In addition, Jack Hannah (of the Columbus Zoo), and I'm certain other cretins like him sell the zoos 'surplus' animals to canned hunts for profit.
Zoos should be abolished.
animalliberation0961 3 years ago
yes i do admit that some zoos are like this, but you have to think, not all zoos are like this
imagexofxdifference 3 years ago
thank you for caring and for posting this
aardfay 3 years ago 2
ya ive always hated the thought of animals in cages
ituness2 3 years ago
Great video - hopefully it'll get some attention (I see PETA picked it up) - which will help.
gards1313 3 years ago
I guess some zoos are okay, but the inhumane treatment of God's creatures, i will never understand..it's a sad story, and happens all over this planet...they when a caretaker is killed by an animal doing it's instinct, the animal is killed. I know of a lady in texas that protects cheetahs, and she got some bites/scratches a couple weeks ago, and would NOT put that cat down...she's brave, compassionate, and gutsy, at that!
60bunnies 3 years ago 5
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seraphicsynergism 3 years ago
Sincere? cut the propaganda & distortion. Compare a human nursery! There aren't wild spaces for many zoo animals to ever go to. Zoos strive to steward these animals into a better future where there is a wilderness for them. Vid says all it shows is bad. Look again: Bang marks - sometimes animals want IN! Animals watched? The lion chooses to lie near & watch back. Without zoos, many wouldn't have the connection to animals to care to listen to you. Want to be constructive? Help.
seraphicsynergism 3 years ago
What planet are you living on????? Where their is wilderness for them !!!! man is destroying their habitat so were are they going to be "put back into".Zoos are profit making machines.If animals have to be "incarserated" then look at wild life parks, at least they give the animal space. theirs no Zoo on earth thats good for any animal. and very few are conservation concerned. as theirs no natural habitat to reintroduce them into, zoos are animal prisons .
catsruleus 3 years ago
WOW What a load of utter bullshit. There is always space and enough of their natural habitat for them to live in what a STUPID thing to say. Zoos do NOT strive these animals to a better future, being kept in a cage all their life is not a future. They are only there for your own amusement and 'family day out'. We took them animals from the wild for people like you to gawk at and that makes me sick.
sam8110 2 years ago
The lion does not choose to be watched, it doesn't have a choice, its in cage you moron. You do NOT need to see an animal in a cage to feel a connection and to care for animals. I have never been to a zoo yet i feel so passionate about animals and have so much respect that im a vegetarian. You talk utter rubbish, there is never any excuse for an animal to be kept in a cage, thousands of miles away from its natural home for the amusement of you.
sam8110 2 years ago
Zoos, are they cruel? This video provides stills and video for everyone to see what you don't notice on your family trip to to the zoo. Should we have a zoo in every city? Many zoos go unregulated animals suffer, not every zoo has caretakers like Dragonwalkerart here.
tikihobbs 3 years ago
Our animals are kept in clean and enriching environments. We interact with them as much as possible, and discipline any visitors that show disrespect. We given them plenty of hiding from the public so that they cannot be taunted and always have an alternative.
Sometimes pacing at a door is just a sign that there is a keeper there preparing some tasty morsel for them. Also some pacing, as in cats (not bears) is a sign that they are guarding their territory and you will often see them marking.
DragonwalkerArt 3 years ago
I study zoos all over the world and I see your attitude in most of the zoos in countries where there is enough money to keep the zoos well. In the poor countries, it can be bad, but it's bad for the people also. Zoos can give people a chance to learn to care about animals that they might otherwise never even know about. Then, hopefully, they'll make choices to help and protect animals in the wild.
Good people like you are working in zoos. The future of many animals rests with zoos.
seraphicsynergism 2 years ago 3
I admit that zoos are not the ideal way to keep animals, and certain species should be phased out, such as elephants. There is never an excuse for enclosures to be cramped and/or dirty, but as a keeper I see all the good things too. I take care of newts that were being smuggled into the country illegally, many died, but they are doing really well and even bred (a sign of ideal conditions with amphibians). We also have Amur Leopards that are being slaughtered in the wild, only 20 remain there.
DragonwalkerArt 3 years ago
Respect, you made a clear movie. I hope many people will watch it and it will open their eyes if it was not yet.
SEALALERT 3 years ago