Mosaic News - 8/11/09: World News From The Middle East

[covertcovenant]

23:33 - how sad is that?

[abbienetvision]

The new president of Fatah will be a terrorist in Israeli jail. These people are fucked. They support terrorism and do nothing to better their own lives.

I hope all of these Arabs die. Israel should have kicked them out in 1967, thinking there could be peace with barbaric Muslims, clearly was a pipe dream.

At least they are speaking the truth here about there hatred and desire to kill, which is all Fatah is about!

[covertcovenant]

You're right, just like Bibi (Netanyahu) is a terrorist, or his predecessor Ariel Sharon the butcher of Beirut. Lets get rid of all the terrorists, on BOTH sides, so we can BOTH be terror free! ;)

[abbienetvision]

covert,

I do not remember Bibi or Sharon ever calling for all Israelis to go and kill Palistineans, Muslims, Lebanese, or any other group.

This is the Hamas/Fatah aim...to kill all Jews and "throw them into the sea"

Your comparison is pathetic.

Please show me one suicide bomber sent by any Israeli into Gaza, W.Bank, Lebanon, etc.

Fighting against terrorism and needing to kill terrorist is not equal to terrorist aiming to kill innocent people.

[covertcovenant]

Pathetic is your insult of people with another open minded progressive fair and balanced world view than your own that seems to be right wing, one sided, and certainly not balanced. The suicide bombers are obviously not needed by Israel anymore, the way they needed them from the 30's-40's when they were trying to get the Brits out so they could declare Palestine as Israel and make it their own, kicking out the inhabitants (Palestinians) that lived there prior to the Shoa.

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covert,

Did you say the Israel "kicked out the inhabitants (Palestinians)"?

Let's see:

In the words of Abbas:

I am among those who were born in the city of Tzfat (Safed).We were a family of means. I studied in elementary school, & then came the naqba[calamity,namely, the founding of the State of Israel ed.]. At night, we left by foot from Tzfat, to the Jordan River, where we remained for a month. Then we went to Damascus, and then to our relatives in Jordan, and then we settled in Damascus.

[covertcovenant]

Look, this tid for tad back and forth pettyness/pseudo/semi-AIPAC talk will bring you absolutely nothing, neither will it for those right wing zionists that think it betters their future. In fact, what it does do, is breed hate and animosity, on both sides, which in the long run only causes deaths. Obviously as an extremist nut case, on either side, that does not matter, but to an educated academic fair and honest individual as there are on both sides, it does matter. Tolerance and will prevail.

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covert,

Lies, like you spew here or fabricating the truth to your own ideas is adding to hatred and violence.

Just look at the voilence in Gaza yesterday to see that Islam is violent. Look at the bombing yesterday in Iraq, Afgan, Darfur killing, China, India, Nigeria, just to name a few.

Jews are not causing death all around the world and never have.

You are just a hater!

[covertcovenant]

Are you really that blinded or just raised on zionism and hate, with no empathy and tolerance for others? Is that it? Is that why you act like Allen Derschowitz, or anybody else from the AIPAC to call anybody with fair criticism and honest points of discussion a anti-semite and a liar? Are you not ashamed of yourself to act just as the Nazi's did in the early 30's throughout the mid 40's when they did the very same to the European Jews? Are you sincerely not ashamed?

[abbienetvision]

covert,

Allan Derschowitz is brilliant, so thanks for the comparison.

Nobody is acting like the Nazi's in the current world, other than the Muslims who were always Nazi supporters.

The Palistinians have grown in population 4 times the world average. Some genocide or Nazi practices.

The arabs in Israel are complaining cowards, who attack, lose, and then cry that they want things to go back to before they attacks.

Israel has fought every was offensively and never attacked!

Where are your facts?

[covertcovenant]

Well you know, maybe you should ask your parents and grandparents for facts my friend, maybe then you would not be so full of your hateful zionist idiology. I dont blame you though, because to me you're no different then those fundamentalists, same close minded right wing nuts, seems to me that you two deserve one another. Sad that this simple issue could not be resolved fast with some men with sense and courage to stand up to people like you, that like to twist things, and then wine propaganda.

[abbienetvision]

covert,

I live in Israel and still you have not presented any facts here, only personal attacks without any basis.

Just 2 days ago, Fatah was responsible for lynching an Israeli father who was only 50 yrs old. A few days earlier, we had rocket and mortar fire.

ps. What is wine propaganda? Learn English!

[covertcovenant]

Wine Propaganda makes you look like somebody that wines every time there is a criticism with proper grounds. But nonetheless I I appreciate your caring for me to get just as well educated as you are with your vast knowledge. And since you are in Israel, well then mazel tov with that hate that you spew...because that will only cause you, your kids, and your grandkids headaches and heartpains! Zionism needs to go, just as extremism on the Arab side does! Obviously you're not a partner for peace.

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covert,

You are STUPID!

I already pointed out to you that nobody can wine propaganda, but you are too thick to even get it...lol

Wine is a drink from grapes, idiot!

Did you see the Fatah conference, they preach all hatred and even though Israel easily could wipe out all palis we don't. If the tables were turned all Jews would be dead and Israel would not exist.

ps. I was a left winger for peacenow, until we did it my way (gave up land) and received only violence. I even worked for Peres '96

[covertcovenant]

Well obviously all the work for peacenow did not give you any sense in behavioral ethics, because calling people you dont know stupid and idiots shows what a ignorant low cultured short tempered person you are. If you had any understanding of people, or the world as a whole, you'd understand that what people like you are doing is destroying your beloved Israel, instead of saving it. Hate breeds hate, and your disrespect doesn't make you any friends either....now a wise move. This talk is over!

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covert,

Seeing as you have NO IDEA of current events or history, let me tell you what PeaceNow is about today. PeaceNow does not even have one Israeli supporter that is not paid from abroad.

Don't you see the list of countries plagued by Muslim violence posted below?

WTF does violence in Libya, Brazil, Venezuela have to do with Israel?

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Muslim violence today can be seen in only a very few places, like Australia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Afgan, Darfur, China, Russia, Chechnya, India, Nigeria, India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Indonesia, Philippines, Turkey, Bangladesh, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi arabia, Jordan, Israel, Algeria, Somalia, Chad, Libya, France, Germany, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark,Serbia, Bosnia, and US, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela and Paraguay .

Antarctica is still Muslim violence free.