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  • I am with @artemisthee3

  • I am NEVER going wherever this area is! I feel like i just watched a horror movie that i will never get over. I did not realize how fortunate i was to live where i do. I never saw a horse suffer so long. I never ever ever knew that in this day and age a vet or anyone was capable of permitting something to suffer this long and still be human. o my god

  • I have my horses on a wild grass mixture and have never had any issues with their feet. So sorry to see a horse have to go through this mess. Hopefully everyone can learn a lesson from this video.

  • OHHH Myy Good !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The poor Horse :(

  • Poor horse.

  • he is obviously colicing too....he is looking at his stomach...and has labored breathing... he did not die of founder or laaminitis or anyother foot problem

  • @hyperfocus2011 Actually she didn't die, she got put to sleep because of the founder. But yes, she was having lots of other problems because of the pain she was in in general.

  • he is obviously colicing too....he is looking at his stomach...and has labored breathing... he did not die of founder

  • he is obviously colicing too....he is looking at his stomach...and has labored breathing...

  • A lot of the grasses and legumes that exist today were created in a agriculture laboratory to put weight on beef cattle in farmers planted fields and totally unsuitable for horses.While its true that grass is good for horses.Its what type of grass and how much and last the horse itself.Some horses are easy keepers they stay in great condition on very little feed.

  • The horses we all keep on our properties are NOT wild animals. Not all domestic horses can tolerate a lot of grass, esp. in the spring when the sugars are high. My horse has IR ad I have to keep him off grass in the spring. But he is fine to go on grass all summer. He is outside most of the time. I have him on a special diet and he only gets a certain type of hay added with Dengie Hi Fi Gold. He has navicular so I watch his feet VERY closely every day.

  • Omg that is really sad :(

  • I did not say that "grass" in general is NOT good for horses, it's what they eat. But there are different types of grass, and wild horses do not live on farmer planted fescue fields. Plus there is a lot more to it than I could explain here, perhaps you should do some research, into why and how horses can grass founder. You are right though in saying, catching her early would have saved her.

  • Wild horses live on grass 24/7. Grass is GOOD for horses. There are people who have horses living on grass all their lives! And yes I know what I'm talking about, I work with horses and they're ALWAYS out at grass. And are PERFECTLY healthy. Catching this on that mare EARLY would have saved her.

  • If you did put your horse out, you need to put shoes on them. and clean their feets, horse need the hoof clean every day.

  • I know this video had good intentions... but as a horse lover... it is one of the most shocking videos I have ever seen!

  • Actually that is not so. My friend who is a barefoot trimmer and I have saved several horses in the past few years that have had penetration. One of them, a minature, had penetration in both front feet and she is fine now. The other is a part draft mare and she had penetration in only one foot and is on the road to recovery.

  • I guarentee you they weren't going to find a farrier around hear that could have helped this horse, nor a vet. Barbaro had the best of care and yet had to be put down. Every case is different, but I know also that horses can be saved almost all the time. But there were a LOT of extenuating circumstances in this case. I have another video called the hope and victory over laminitis, where I did help save a horse.

  • I appreciate the time you have taken to educate people about laminitis however if this horse had received proper vet and farrier care it would probably have survived!! You poultice a horses foot if it has an abscess, not if it has laminitis!! Laminitis needs professional shoeing to ensure the soles of the horses foot are properly supported to stop further pedal bone rotation!! This is bordering on neglect!

  • @skydivefifi You know I can't even watch these, and havent' since I put them up. I don't even know how I stood it the whole time it was happening. It was a situation I was kind of thrown into by odd circumstances. I did the best I could, this horses hooves were way past just basic laminitis, of which I also know much more about today. This had been going on for months, and I only met the lady the day before on the phone.

  • @thehappyhoof A lot of people come along and wind up putting blame on me for one reason or the other, because they don't watch all the videos or listen to the whole situation. When ever I go to reply to a comment, I refuse to even look at these videos they hurt my heart so much. I just believe the Lord was numbing me slightly at the time, so that I could be there to help the horse and the owner. I can't stand to see any animal suffer, and even thinking about this now makes me feel ill.

  • SHE WAS NOT GOOD TO HER HORSES IF SHE LET THIS GO ON FOR SO LONG! What kind of owner lets this go for so long? You need to love them enough to give them the kind of care they deserve! The dark urine shows that she is slowly dieing!! Her kidneys have shut down! And you keep on laughing! Who cares what else was going on! You have some nerve preaching to people after you stood around and watched the mare suffer without telling the owner to put the horse down!

  • @terrypfeff owner is in the wrong, but the lady shooting the vid has no control over someone elses horse. She did indeed suggest to put down, but was trying to preform a miracle that may have worked had the owner acted sooner.

  • SHE WAS NOT GOOD TO HER HORSES IF SHE LET THIS GO ON FOR SO LONG! What kind of owner lets this go for so long? You need to love them enough to give them the kind of care they deserve! The dark urine shows that she is slowly dieing!! Her kidneys have shut down! And you keep on laughing!

  • 05:26 Äckligt!! :(

  • I have seen a horse slough a foot before not good.

  • I agree from seeing your first video this mare did have other things going on with her and the laminitis was a result.

  • This poor horse was left far too long...

  • My 3 year old has gotten white line disease twice. My pasture was really wet when it happened. It went away and then this year she got it again. We moved her and my gelding to a better pasture that stays dry. But what is the best treatment for it?

  • My pony was put down on july 26 2010. He had founder twice. he also pulled up lame a lot. He had green grass founder too. its a scary thing. 2 years later he got a disease that was slowly shutting his body down. then founder effects and lameness came back. we doubled his meds but he could barley walk. i saw him the day before he was put down. i cried on his shoulders and he wrapped his head around me. im now searching for a new horse. i might recue a horse too.

  • @247pipin Sorry to hear about your pony, I've had to put down 3 horses in my own life, a pony with distemper when I was 5 (my first pony), so I know how you feel. Pony's seem to founder on grass even easier than horses. The more gubbed out and eaten down the pasture, the more they have to forage or are only allowed on grass limited time, the better.

  • phew almost threw up when she has her hooves taken off. but its to save other horses :]

  • the mare must have been lame fpr quite a while before she started to lay down due to the unbareable pain

  • First off I'm sorry for what I said in my first comment. It just bothered me in the beginning that you didn't have her put down knowing well that her front hooves was that bad. Seeing the coffin bone when you lift the flap of her sole was bad enough to that the vet and the farrier had no clue, they were just out for the money. I'm really sorry, you were just out there to show ppl that they really need to be learned in how to care for the horses a little bit more.

  • My gelding got foundered really really bad. He was down for about a week from all the pain. But with corrective, regular trimming, and pain killers, we managed to save him. Luckily. He is doing fine. But he is still sore. He gets blisters on his hind hooves from all the pressure he is putting on them, rather than putting pressure on his front too.

  • @BarrelRacer955 So sorry for your gelding, how did he get foundered? Did you run barrels on him?

    He'll get better, you did just the right thing. There is another video I do of a mare that was really foundered in all four feet, But with trimming every 2 weeks and then 3 weeks and then every 4 or 5 she finally grew out new hooves.

  • @thehappyhoof Well, it was really cold where i lived last summer. And he was just getting to much grass and not burning enough of it when he exersized. I dont run barrels on him. We have been riding him a little bit. like once or twice a month. He is defintly getting better. His neck is softer too. We have been monitoring what he is getting and cutting back on his feed. Once his feet get better i might get him going for a trail/cow horse.

  • They have just discovered that using an equine cold salt spa actually cures laminitis.

  • Thanks for your discriptive demos.

    I avoid fescue's. It's poison.

    Our horses won't eat fescue hay's.

    Thats proof enough for me.

    I limit pasure time, only half a day, no night time grazing.

    Good quality hay is much safer.

    Try a table spoon of sodium bicarb in their water pail. Equalize the acid intake of pasture grass.

  • Thanks so much for your advice both on the bars and on the sodium bicarb, I'll do it.

    Regards,

  • It is not even the green grass which causes laminitis. It is a certain kind of sugar in green grass, which is builded during a sunny, cold day. The sun produces this kind of sugar, but the cold temperature stops the growth of the grass, so the sugar is not used up by the grass and the horses get too much of it. This is the common cause of laminitis. Other causes for laminitis are physical overloading, intoxication and metabolic diseases.

  • So all horses of the world ages before used to die in thousands because there was "too much of green grass" ???:)

  • Yeah, I use to live on the desert, and always wanted "green grass". Careful what you wish for. That was before I knew all this. Also lot's of green grass, lot's of water, wet season and "THRUSH". Wish I was back on the desert.

  • I can't believe this poor mare was allowed to enter this horrific state before being PTS...very, very sad state of affairs.

  • lmfao.. its founder stooge.. thats why they make grazer hoods so that they dont overeat on green grass ... ive trained horses for 15 yrs and ive seen it alot.. and its very painful for the horses.. you as a horse owner should know this.. your horses should beware of your lack of skills

  • sorry about the last post-- I see you used diapers- honey works great in the diapers too-----

  • Thank you for this, very interesting!

  • excuse me:

    she is not allowed to eat longer as 3 hours!

  • i have a horse too what had this illness. she had also bolwn out the botton and all around. we rescued her and now she can work like before th illness. it seems impossible but it isnt! i can ride her normally . if i cant see it with my own eyes, i cant believe it! i look after that she dont put up weigh and she only is allowed to eat the high grass longer as 3 hours. she has to work for her food a lot - and so she keeps fit! now her laminitis is 6 years ago and she lives in a healthy way!

  • That's wonderful, that you were in a situation where you could save your horse. I know they can be saved, but there were other circumstances here, that did not make this one possible.

  • okay that lady says the same thing over and over and needs to stop talking so much,, and she just decides to cut its hooves off? umm okay? haha, that's kinda wierd.

  • I believe the act of cutting on a deceased animal for reason of research is called a "necropsy". Its the animal equivalent of a human "autopsy". She was trying to get more information and instruct us on the mechanics of this disease...

  • Looked like colic on top of the founder and other problems.

  • A horse laying down that long after awhile her organs will shut down, hence the dark urine. If they got her to a vet and put in a sling it would of saved her life. Common sense ain't common anymore. This mare suffered a long time. Great video to shed light on the importance of hoof maintenance. debs

  • Once the Pedal bone penatrates the sole,its too late.

  • Actually there is now a place that can rehab these horses with surgery. I just found this the other day, it's amazing. It's called Serenity Equine International Laminitis Treatment Center. Google it, because these messages will not let you post links.

  • I do realize that the owners loved, and cared for this horse and wanted to do what they could to save her..But this horse should have been put down long before it got to that state. Once they realized how far gone it was, sad as it may be, vet appointents should have been made to save her the suffering. I have seen a horse suffer from Laminitis, and although it wasn't this bad, he still couldn't walk right and was shuned from the heard for being an easy target. How could this go unnoticed ?

  • what was the F work you used

    fescue or somthing what is that?

    could you tell me a little about how to spot it or how to help stop it from starting

    both my cobs are out april - november day and night if the weather lets us, they are shod and ridden almost every day, the grass isnt really long but its lush.

  • my horses are welsh cobs

    rising 4 year olds

    one has a grass mask on in the day and off at night, she can still eat just not as much

    is that ok or is that worse than letting her have free grass.

  • this horse could live today with proper hoof trim and care, this people I would say, just didn't know what to do....for the future - look for barefoot trimmer! Expert one! This horse could be saved!

  • to be honest..i love my horse..if anything happen to her i would be not able to cut her legs of and do that....this is so cold and shows not really love for this animal so i agree with ur post.

  • Well, it's kind of the same principle as transplant doners. The owner, did love this horse, and donated the hooves, so i could do these videos and warn people. It's a matter of "helping" others avoid the same tragedy, and learning from the hooves.

  • Protein is what horses "food founder" from. It can be caused from many other things but it sounds like from what you're saying that it was from the grass.  Plus she said that she "thought she could cut down on the oats." Nooo... No more oats... Grass hay and water! It can also be from being hot and no water then drinking all she wants... Which she showed an example of that in the 1st video. I wish you got to her before she got that bad. What a sad, sad situation. I'm glad she's at rest.

  • I met Joann the day before. The mare had water, she kept bringing it to her in a bucket. For this mare it was EVERYTHING that could go wrong went wrong. Joann let me have the feet and let me do the videos, to help other people. She is truly a kind woman, who learned a lot the hard way from this and knows it.

  • Thank you so much for taking the time to do this video. You go about it like a scientist. It must have been very hard on the owner and of course the poor horse obviously did suffer way too much. But thank you and the owner for going through the process to teach us to be more vigilant about our horses care. G-d bless.

  • ew thats weird

  • (countinued)

    Laminitis is also caused by a numerous other things,My pony for example got rode HARD and put away wet and he drank and drank leading to being lame and laminitic. (I was not responsible for this)

    I do apologize for coming off so forward, I didn't mean it.

    Thanks,

    Taylor

  • Grass isn't the cause,hun.

  • Could you elaborate on that?

  • Sure, Don't make it sound like grass is the cause,horses can eat and eat and EAT on grass and you can avoid laminitis, sure it is rich but as long as you ACTUALLY observe the horse there is a million ways to get around it.

  • @TaylorTot1989 What grassy world do you live in? You obviously haven't had a horse with metabolic problems in your life or you would never had made that statement.

  • Why were you so kind about the owner? Sometimes it needs to be told like it is. This did not happen overnight. If she loved her horse she would have monitored her daily & noted changes to weight, hooves, neck crest etc. She would have informed herself on a correct diet for her horse (& so much more) way before this poor mare got to this stage. This is all to obvious a case of abuse through ignorance -Going on since June! The flare on those hooves has been some 3 months in the making at least

  • Probably because going "redneck" on the owner wasn't going to help the horse.

  • Owner neglect and incompetence is what killed this mare.

  • atleast the mare isnt suffering anymore

  • My horse is in founder recovery. I was fortunate I caught it early. I noticed changes in his behavior and called the vet out IMMEDIATLEY! Even though I discovered his condition early, it was one of the most horrible things to witness when the laminitis began to take its toll. But because I took action, his life was saved. Do NOT wait!

    But, the best medicine for laminitis are "preventative" measures. Thank you for giving people a better understanding of laminitis and how serious it is.

  • This is an excellent educational video. Good job. I hope people pay close attention.

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