Sermon2Tolkien, Lewis, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn 2/7

[z9trajkovski]

...don't read stay stupid and good luck ;)

[stett99]

looks like rockefeller

[curesoon]

Though I think you're fighting one of our own team members (so far as Lewis was a convert from the Occult and Atheism to Christianity), I also believe you are setting forth some very valuable warnings. Thanks for posting this. It does give a person a lot to think about.

[curesoon]

We all have our faults, and Lewis was plainly warning the reader of the Occults evil attraction.

In That Hideous Strength, the character is being initiated into a group of influential people. In the end the character does not join the group after being asked to urinate upon a crucifix.

Lewis clearly had been around the Occult, and we find many warnings to steer clear of such things in his books.

[curesoon]

I once tried to describe it in a novel. It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts. It is probably this passion, more even than the desire for power, which makes magicians."- Surprised By Joy by C. S. Lewis (page 60)

[curesoon]

"And that started in me something with which, on and off, I have had plenty of trouble since - the desire for the preternatural, simply as such, the passion for the Occult. Not everyone has this disease; those who have will know what I mean.

[curesoon]

C. S. Lewis plainly states that he had trouble with a passion for the Occult. He even refers to his problem as a disease.

[mt2817]

Continued from below...can we accept a deity that promotes celestial divination in some books and condemns it in other books!

Matt 16:3 And in the morning, [It will be] foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O [ye] hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not [discern] the signs of the times?

Discerning the signs and seasons is our birthright and responsibility. Yahshua's disciples knew this. Our speaker neglects such info as it is counter to his message.

[BrotherMurray]

Mt2817, the signs of the times described in Acts 2, Matthew 24, Mark 13, and in Revelations are completely different than the astrology practiced in Occultism.

The difference comes from the nature and source of the knowledge. You could compare it to the fact that spiritual manifestations and gifts are present within and outside of Christianity. Many things God does are often copied by the adversary. They look similar from carnal eyes, but they are in fact much different.

[mt2817]

Hmm...at 2:29 the speaker quotes Deuteronomy chapter 8 vss 10-12. He was n error. The quote comes from chapter 18!!

All the same, Genesis 1:14 reads...

"Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament (heaven) to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years"

[Bason1971]

hahaha your stupid

[infadel911]

Dude, I looked up HGD because I wanted to read about the HGD, not listen to you spout off your evangelical horseshit.

[Isaiah6twothrueight]

oooo - this teaching just keeps getting better (or worse) however you want to look at it.