Reaction to "Don't ask, Don't tell" Repeal

[FreedomClause]

'don't ask don't tell' should be replaced by 'who gives a shit'

[Alexn1067]

gays were always allowed to serve, they just weren't allowed to be flamboyant

[TheIceDragon77]

@Alexn1067 That is only partially true. While they COULD serve, they would have to be quiet about any relationships they could be in, who they could be attracted to, and essentially have to pretend that they were something that they are not, otherwise be discharged.

[Alexn1067]

@TheIceDragon77 true, but since when was the military an organization for self expression? It never was, in the service, its not about you, you are one of many...your needs take a back seat....its rough but we have a volunteer military at the moment so nobody puts a gun to your head and makes you join.

[TheIceDragon77]

@Alexn1067 Alright, you have a point. But if that were the case, then why dont we silence all voices in the military? Straight/bi/gay, nobody can speak anything of their sexuality, whom theyre attracted to, what/who they like, what theyre into, what they like to do in their free time, etc. Course, that wont happen.

[Alexn1067]

@TheIceDragon77 I agree, sexuality should not be allowed to be a distraction. As for heterosexuals there are restrictions, you are allowed to date others of different ranks and you can not date anyone within the same chain of command.

As far as gays go, I would not be opposed to a scenario where they wouldn't get kicked out just for word slipping out that they are gay so long as they don't display flamboyant and openly gay behavior (sexuality being a distraction)

[kstewlover9]

I sooooo wish you were my youth pastor or something I love all the points you bring up and I could not agree more with you on the stuff you say!

[JeffGeigercr]

to answer the question if people in the same unit fall in love or start dating they would have to follow the Uniform Military Code which doesn't allow for sexual relationships between Officer and Enlisted or people of different rank and they dont allow for people of the same rank either. If they are on Duty and in the Uniform or are deployed to a foreign Country so yes the Military does have a recourse for any issues that could come up. Per the UMC

[jayex0x0]

In your question about what happens if 2 people fall in love or one has an interest in the other but it's not reciprocated-that happens ALL the time between heterosexuals, so I don't see the problem.

[nbkcq28]

@jayex0x0 I agree totally. Gays deal with that kind of thing their whole lives. Rejection is a part of life. As for getting a crush on a straight guy, it happens. If we couldn't deal well with that we would not have survived long enough to reach adulthood...lol.

[melizmoto]

If the government & state are going to seperate God from them then they need to seperate sexual orientation from it also. If you get freedom of religion, if you can pray in school, if you can't do so many things & then so many other things are totally up to choice then why should any state, government, military whatever worry about sexual orientation! If that makes sense to anyone...hey it makes sense in my head LOL

[melizmoto]

I think that someone's someone's sexual orientation is not the business of the military or the government. I believe that God is the judge of these kind of things not us & we are to love one another, not judge one another. I have to pay for my own sins, not the sins of others. My best friend is gay, he knows that I believe in God but he also knows that I love him no matter what & the fact that he is gay has nothing to do with why I love him. Got to write too comments to much to say for one.

[KarisFaith316]

Dude, the "no really...click on something...please!" thing is SOOOOOO unoriginal.

[vertigoelectric]

No annotations or link overlays show up when watching via my Droid... which makes the end of this video even more awkward.

[umdterp999]

christians will bring the downfall of our society

[XXvictoriellahXX]

you make me feel bad for not clicking the links. lol :)

[iHadMySayTV]

UDOHM - All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

everyone is equal.

[TheChangeVlog]

Liked the end!! lol I already watched the other video and I'm subbed ... needed a third option! (cough - like a link to a fellow Christian Youtuber) An older video perhaps? ;-)

[KBoe4]

@po31976 Dude come on. Don't just assume things like that about people...

[Lanedude08]

Great job as usual :-)

How sad that some people would put down a man fighting for our country and willing to die for it simply because he has sex with other men. Same for a woman sleeping with women.

I've noticed that a lot of the people who I've heard had an opinion against the repeal of DADT have not even served in the military. That doesn't sound too fair, now, does it? Tell a gay man he can't serve in the military when the person judging him hasn't served at all?

[devonferris]

I don't think the government is saying that it is a question of morality. You gust made the exact point why DADT has been repealed because it should not be something included in the military. You said yourself that military should base their decision on a persons physical attributes and intelligence and not on sexuality. Having DADT pass in the military is going to create a socialism rights. If gays can have rights and should be treated differently and special then why can't it support pologimy?

[Friendough]

There is a moral component to preferring who serves in uniform and who doesn't. The military wants people of integrity, who will honor the chain of command, tell the truth, and perform their duties with diligence. However, when I was in uniform, I never much cared about the private life of the person serving next to me. Just as the military is accepting of all faiths, it must be open to all orientations, giving people the opportunity to prove themselves.

[jellisrellish]

hey, any thaughts on the upcoming election? love the vids, keep it up.

[waderp]

I think that this is an issue that Christians have no reason to discuss.The military is not Christian at all.Its an organization that kills people so on that note we have no reason to include this discussion.I think a christian is a man of peace....not someone who gets involved in world affairs.

[fratbrotha]

like any job ... i'm sure being professional before finding a date is foremost but i believe anything relationships should be handled the same way the heterosexual relationships are handled between soldiers.

[MzBUZZKILINGTON]

They still have the right to kick out transsexuals or refuse them enlistment or a commission.

[Dormy100]

Love Has No Gender

[GonzoNomad]

The romantic relationship issue also exists with women serving in the military. I assume the recourse for homosexual unwanted advances would be similar to the recourse for heterosexual unwanted advances. No reason they wouldn't have a good game plan for that.

As to bullying, I am under the impression that addressing this is what the training period prior to appeal was for. Or at least I hope so. But, we will see.

Good vid, as always.

[thereprieve]

We're probably a very small minority amongst our Christian brothers and sisters. you are absolutely right, it's a rights issue and not a morality issue.

Great video and great thoughts amigo.

GBU

[MagnesiumMichael]

fantastic video

[jamiegreuber]

You make some outstanding points to the hypocrisy that some Christians have with making this a moral issue of the highest order. It is lklike saying this sin is the worst compared to all the others.

[chet4848]

I would argue that our military is made up of professionals. Lest anyone forgets, the number one goal of all military units is mission completion. Anyone that cannot deal with policy change, does not belong in the military. Following orders is one of the main principles of military life, get used to it. As far as your concerns puristblog, there are rules and regulations that all must follow.

[thatsnotagoodidea]

I like the end. LOL.

[jusitke07]

At times I wonder about those who thinks that Homosexuals are "immoral"? What is "immoral" about those Homosexuals who are law abiding citizens, and who's private personal lives mean no direct harm to the personal, private lives of those who hate them?

[librarising]

"It's not an issue of their right to serve but do WE have the right to tell them not to serve"...those are awesome words. I came in here, expecting to have to fight you on this, but it just turned out that we're pretty much on the same page about it. I'm glad you're not holding our soldiers' sexuality (whatever it may be) against them and not promoting this law so thank you for supporting our troops in that respect. God bless =)

[TatyannaLoves]

i love your videos!! <3 <3

[cherokeedoll1]

the thing is,,now that gays can openly say in the military that they are gay..soon enough we will start hearing about how some drill sargent is discriminating against or picking on someone just because they are gay. No,,all this has done is open the door for all kinds of trouble. It is better as dont ask dont tell,,,

[shaniece12341]

even though i dont agree with homosexualtiy i dont think that it is something that should be kept in the dark or a secret just because of your sexual orientation

that's so stupid that being homosexual could prevent you from being part of the military

[pewterbot9]

@shaniece12341 squoinked: "even though i dont agree with homosexualtiy"

Then by your very attitude--no matter how "tolerant" it seems--you sanction anti-gay bashing and terrorism. Let me ask you this: do you also "not agree" with Jews or blacks?

[shaniece12341]

@pewterbot9 i acctually am black. but i dont agree with the homosexual lifestyle

btw i dont believe people were born gay if thats wher ur goin with idk if u r but im gettin that out there right now. y would u say that i sanction anti gay bashing. you dont know me u just hate that i dont agree with the homosexual lifestyle. i hav homosexual friends and they know that i dont agree with homosexual relations but im not gunna act like they r diseased or constantly bash them. dont insult me

[pewterbot9]

@shaniece12341 squoinked: "i hav homosexual friends and they know that i dont agree with homosexual relations"

Well, that's like blacks being friends to white folks who don't agree with interracial marriage. Your "friends" are the queer equivalent to Uncle Toms. But they're certainly not the first, or only, homosexuals to kiss the hetero arse (black OR white). If they had any sense, they'd dump you like a prideful black person would dump a white "friend" once he learns he's a KKK member.

[pewterbot9]

@shaniece12341: Furthermore: gays know who butters their bread: the vast hetero majority. The cost of challenging heterosupremacists is often one's job, family and friends, including church support...sometimes leading to extreme violence and death. Just like blacks a century ago, wouldn't dream of standing up to ol' whitey...or they too would be ostracized, raped, lynched...you know, the same ol same ol'. I'm sure you get your rocks off feeling so SUPERIOR among your queer associates.

[shaniece12341]

@shaniece12341 we dont look at it the same way but whatever

im coming from a standpoint of lifestyle(CHOOSING to live a certain way)

the race thing is different no one chooses their nationality but we choose lifestyles

dont worry we can leave it at this bcus we wont agree on this topic

[pewterbot9]

@shaniece12341 squoinked: "dont insult me"

How could I ever insult one who is already a bigot against gays. Hold up a mirror: "I don't approve of your black lifestyle". i have negro friends and they know that i dont agree with darkie relations but im not gunna act like they r diseased or constantly bash them. dont insult me

(But how could I ever reason w/someone who makes up her face to look like a circus clown?)

[pewterbot9]

There are no heteros in foxholes.

[TheLaughingOut]

Just a word about being attracted to someone. Keep in mind that both men and women have been allowed to serve for a while now. I'm sure they already have measures in place for all sorts of situations.

Also, GREAT video!

[balanceseeker]

If it is a rights issue, it is a moral issue, because it is an issue about ethics, about what we ought to do or not do. Your framing of this debate as being rights vs. morals suggests that you think there is something immoral about homosexuals.

And regarding bullying, they have done the proper training, and as a veteran, I just think it will be a non-issue for the vast majority within the military. Those that make an issue of it will find themselves on the wrong side of the UCMJ.

[depfox]

Great video well said

[lysolbombs470]

"Moral issue" or not, people have the right to do "immoral" things. To you, they're the ones CHOOSING to send themselves to hell anyway.

[carcabe]

Who are we to decide what is right or wrong for other people. Way to go, David. We don't need outdated morality telling us how we should feel and what we do with our own bodies. Times and morality change. Glad to see you are open.

[QueerAsFaith]

Lovingly, I will say... it isn't about who we sleep with... who we love. Love you david... just want to get you off of thinking of us in terms of sex. Hugs.

[ProfMTH]

@QueerAsFaith Quite right. It's not just about sex.

[DazmoTube]

@QueerAsFaith

The stop identifying with society based on your sexual preference, "queerasfaith".

[Scygeek65]

Oh Babylon. God bless you David. =D 

[eddieroush]

this my not be very relevant, but this was the case. however i do think gays should be allowed in the military for many reasons, unless, of course, something goes wrong. like if a gay man takes a distracting liking to a straight soldier.

[lysolbombs470]

@eddieroush

Because it doesn't happen with women, right?

[eddieroush]

@lysolbombs470 What is it that you're arguing? Absolutely nothing because your comment was irrelavent.

[lysolbombs470]

@eddieroush

My argument could still be valid even if it were irrelevant.

I was poking fun at the notion of homosexuals being viewed as something of a sexual predator. It's like people look at them as though they were these half-civil creatures with sexual impulses that might cause them to "take a distracting liking to a straight soldier". I frequently hear about men being creeps to women, but not usually about men being creeps to men. Generally it's because someone's a homophobe.

[eddieroush]

@lysolbombs470 i see what you are saying. and just to clarify, i don't think gays are sexual predators?

anyway, if i were sleeping in a girls cabin i might get distacted. i most likely would. so what's wrong with saying a gay man might get distracted by sleeping in the same place as other men. grant it, it might not be a distraction but, in my mind, however, its only human nature. not saying that i don't the new policy isn't good. I do, but like i said if it becomes a distraction.

[pewterbot9]

@eddieroush squoinked: "but like i said if it becomes a distraction."

Soldiers will just have to get used to more boners in the showers.

[lysolbombs470]

@eddieroush

Oh I understand. I'm not sure if there's any true way to keep "distractions" from happening, though. You could separate the homosexual men into rooms with women, but then you'd have a Three's Company case where some straight guy is pretending to be gay. It just seems, to me, to use the word "distraction" is to imply they won't have the same self control another (straight) person would have. That's what I was getting at, with all due respect, of course.

[eddieroush]

@lysolbombs470 that makes sense

[eddieroush]

as usual i agree with everything u said except....all the ancient powers were so powerful because they were gay. like the romans, they had special connections with eachother because they were gay. the kids would be brought up and sexual partners, if you will, with the older guy.

[scutter4christ]

If I am taking enemy fire, my biggest concern isn't going to be who is sleeping with who. it's going to be is the man/woman watching my back going to keep me from being killed.

[GaelofVirtue]

Wow! To be honest I wasn't expecting this answer, but I'm happy to hear and agree with your stance. I'm a vetean, straight and I'm in complete agreement. The points you brought up about military issues is exactly correct. Divorce, seedy dives, drinking, etc. is all true.

[GaelofVirtue]

@GaelofVirtue cont. The issues you brought up about conflicts with relationships between gay partners.. they already have rules/laws that govern that since women have been in and relationships between female and male soldiers exist. I was a soldier who married a female soldier while we both were serving, she wasn't in my unit, but in the same division. But, yeah.. military is a difficult place for families.

[GaelofVirtue]

@GaelofVirtue cont. The issues you brought up about conflicts with relationships between gay partners.. they already have rules/laws that govern that since women have been in and relationships between female and male soldiers exist. I was a soldier who married a female soldier while we both were serving, she wasn't in my unit, but in the same division. But, yeah.. military is a difficult place for families.

[GaelofVirtue]

@GaelofVirtue Cont. The issues you brought up about conflicts with relationshops between gay partners. they already have rules/laws that govern that since females were allowed to serve and the relationshops between males and female soldiers exist. I was a soldier who married a female soldier while we both were serving, she wasn't in my unit, but in the same division. But, yeah.. military is a difficult place for families.