Taliban Jack I

[plainwhitejersey]

It is not only the Taliban terrorists Jack is backing, now he is also

supporting amnesty for a convicted Sikh terrorist. Shame on you

Jack. Shame on you.

[pxdfover]

they should keep military secrets, because our elite special forces unit, Joint Task Force 2 (JTF2), is surrounded in secretcy. Like nobody knows their capabilitys, and the persons involved in JTF2, sure military people do and family members, but for the most part, the majority of citizens do not. and im pretty sure thats there shit out there thats better unknown and not known about.

[apprenticejedi]

lol! This is too funny. If the details are ever disclosed, and it turns out that the conservatives were hiding malfeasance (again), I suppose you will quietly pretend this never happened. The Geneva Convention has been broken. Safework, you are laughable.

[thecanadianwill]

TV Jack will give you a mustache ride for 5$

[MegaWolfgang]

If Jack and the NDP had been making decisions 60 years ago we all would be speaking German right now and celebrating Uncle Adolfs birthday every year.

[sweiland75]

@MegaWolfgang Typical right wing pinheads. You lump all left wingers into one group of extremists.

[MegaWolfgang]

@sweiland75 with enemies like the Canadian NDP the Taliban don't need friends

[sweiland75]

@MegaWolfgang How is that public healthcare working for you? :)

[MegaWolfgang]

@sweiland75 Just fine. That is when I use it. Don't go running to the hospital for every owey and abuse the system like so many others do.

[sweiland75]

@MegaWolfgang indeed that is a problem as is the shortage of family doctors

[lucy9359]

@sweiland75 for the most part that is the truth in this country liberals are the down turn to this Nation but the conservatives haven't helped matters!

[achammer]

Canadians aren't dumb but believing that its not being released for national security is, as well as proroguing parliament twice one time for the only reason in my mind to stop a inquiry into the war detainee issue, bull shit Harper

[cas343]

Good thing Canada is leaving next year. Everyone is realizing what a scam this whole war has been.

[MegaWolfgang]

What a waster of skin this man and his party is.

[MegaWolfgang]

Only members of the privy council are allowed to hear secret military matters, especially during war time. Layton and the cheese dick party knows this but left wing brownie points to them is a higher priority.

[bradiusandreas]

This video is ridiculous, even if you leave out the title which is offensive and the creator's commentary during, it attempts to simplify a very complex issue. If governments can simply instruct persons to use 'national security' to prevent them from giving testimony (whether relevant or not) that creates the totalitarian type of government/legal apparatus you'd find in national security states. Right wing persons should be as disgusted by this as the left should.

[NapalmSabbathChains]

I find it funny how all of these leftist media sheep are all of a sudden bitching about how their democratic rights are being trampled upon with the prorogation of parliament. Just a year ago they were embracing the coalition of 3 parties with very different goals from one another. It was a very stupid move on Harper's part, I think he shagged himself out of the possibility of a majority.

[henerymag]

Jack knows jackshit. He's a complete embarrassment to Canada. Thankfully he and his same thinking wife will never be making decisions

[MegaWolfgang]

@henerymag Well said well said.

[thedgdynasty]

this is the stupidest neo con video ive ever seen

go home trailer trash. the republicans are done. conservatives/reform are next

[rw5791]

check that,I meant ron paul.

[rw5791]

we have the layton version here in the states by the name of ross perot.Their both great on seeing globalization for the bullshit that it is,and their both terrible at seeing islamic fascism for the threat that it is.

[Shook1z]

What kind of bias is this? He's saying that the current government shouldn't be allowed to dodge questions by categorizing these issues as threats to national security. Obviously we are not going to publicize military secrets but if our MPs don't know what's going on, it leaves the government more room to make mistakes and to commit war crimes, like the US, because there is no opposition. None are allowed to criticize these actions and that's why these secrets need to be shared within the HofC.

[safework]

He's not talking about answering questions in the HoC, he's talking about divulging military secrets in open court...

[WizaofId]

@safework you sir, are an idiot

[ProfessorxVile]

You think the terrorists don't have the resources to make a FOI request, or access anything else in the public record?

[LPJunkie]

Shady and dishonest people who would hide behind secrets and national policies because you fear death. No dignity or virtue, and look at where your mind is acsial. Thats why there are such things as terrorists. Because someone will fear them and give them power. Thats how consumerism works, lol.

[LPJunkie]

Screw national defense. Some would rather die and know the truth than live in the secret societies and lies of Western Propaganda.

[acsial]

Jerk bin Layton

He came quick

He got jumped by

Osama's dick

Bin Layton is simply pandering to the Islamist block for votes, just like they did with the Tamil Tigers and Babar Khalsa. Somebody (Fintrack?) should also look into why he's such a fan of white-label ATMs--friends laundering money?

[fthrcast]

You are speaking about a man (Obama) who lived directly across the street from a man named Rezco. Rezco was convicted of multiple counts of financing fraud and Obama was working for the legal firm that handled his assets prior to his arrest , and prior to becoming a Chicago Senator. In fact , Obama received campaign contributions from Rezco which allowed Obama to become elected as a Senator. In what amounts to felonious fraud Obama lobbied the US Government for Rezco's fundings.

[fthrcast]

What next Jack , is there a delay on the DNA testing results for Barack Hussein Obama? Or is it unconstitutional to ask a President of The United States for that?

[fthrcast]

Coincidentally Mr. Layton , it was recently announced on national tv , that the "first American worked" "full facial reconstruction" was performed on a woman successfully. Do you not see the similarities there when Obama speaks like he has never seen the Western Continent , and his words could match the words of a Russian fascist at best. I suppose you are waiting to see the sickle? Or are you just "trying to hide it?"

[fthrcast]

Jack , Obama has said , when he spoke about "calling" the President of Canada on the subject of NAFTA , that he would try to ammend the labour contracts and use a hammer as a tool to optout or as leverage. Why are you protecting a man who is a fake. Do you really expect that it wasn't noticed that his first name is like Barrack : 1.( a permanent building for lodging soldiers) 2. ( a hoot or jeer at - [performers at cricket & etc.]) -> Hussein (who has been hanged for murder) -> Obama (jeering)

[fthrcast]

It's this simple Jack. You use a guy like John Nunziata to tell everybody that you charge $500 /hr , don't you Jack?

[fthrcast]

It sounds an aweful lot like how your favorite GTA buddies use the Supreme Court Of Canada or any of the many government agencies in Toronto , doesn't it Jack? It's all designed to allow you to secure a home on one of the blocks , isn't it?

[Mahoivlich]

you must be a conservative christian right?

[bigstack171]

hebber1961-i agree with you 100%, it is distressing to think that it could be possible for this power hungry madman to be in any position of power in this country.God help us.

[peakyone]

The team of dumb, dumber and dumbest will never take power in this country, the population just wont accept it.

Jack is a mean spirited angry man that wants the taste of power. He doesn't give a shit for Canadians or making the parliment work, he just want power and fame.

The next general election will show what Canadians really think about this man that would ruin a country for his own vanity.

Because of him, Quebec separatist will rise up again and cause trouble for us.

[hebber1961]

Layton & federal NDP are like your retarded cousin.

We let them talk to be polite but nothing they say is taken seriously & every now and then we need to wipe the drool off their chin.

[Alexsteen]

Unbelievable. Jack Layton makes Obama look conservative. It's scary to think that the libs, NDP AND the bloc are entertaining the prospect of forming a coalition.

[hebber1961]

it's a joke. i can't believe i'm hearing what i'm hearing. forming a coalition govt. is something troubled countries do.

We have an elected gov't LAST MONTH but the Libs & ndp just can't respect that.

They'll do absolutely anything to gain power, even if it's bad for Canada.

I'd love to run into one cause i'd tear them a new asshole.

[fuktyranny]

This is about torture is it not?

[HelmutHedd]

Taliban Jack is the biggest enemy of freedom in Canada today. Thanks to safework for getting the word about the socialist idiots out to free people. We need more posters like you as the left continues its assault on free speech in Canada. If Taliban Jack ever gets control, we won't have a chance in Sharia court.

[ninjacan2]

Wow, are you completely out of your mind? Ya, the taliban are watching us closely, lock all your doors, give up your rights, and never question the government.

...You are such a tool

[NapalmSabbathChains]

There is no constitutional entitlement that all citizens have uninhibited access to sensitive military information.

Judging by your idiotic statement I don't think you have a clue what your rights even are.

[DIGIBOYTV]

The majority of British Columbians reject Harpers Invasion of Afghanistan and the former Brit general says it's no-win situation. Pakistan is full of crazies to harm our good soldiers, NY war.

[safework]

Ok, we already know that most folks on the left coast are nuts and that the brits have a tenancy to be pussies in matters of war (think Chamberlain). Tell us something new. What does any of that have to do with the fact that Taliban Jack wants national secrets divulged in open court? Come back when you're less of a moron.

[guystoners]

@DIGIBOYTV The Liberals sent us to Afghanistan but don't let facts get in your way

[peakyone]

The NDP is a socialist party very close to (communist) and prefer to have government involved in just about every industry and we know how well that works.

Jack is an take everything he can get type of guy. He lived in social housing while being an elected city official.

He went to a private clinic to have his herna done.

He is a fraud and after not getting the job of PM he should resign and do the right thing.

[NapalmSabbathChains]

He wants to solve all of Canada's problems by sticking a government bureaucrat between all forms of private matters. Yeah, govt workers, bunch of useless, lazy union lapdogs will be there to make sure things run as inefficiently as possible in the name of "fairness". His platform is based on "We're make the government even more MASSIVE and Mr. Fed is here to save the day" They are leftisit union puppets (a union is a business) who will scare off foreign investment with high taxes and regulation

[jamspooge86]

well done safework for exposing yourself as an idiot. The NDP dont want to nationalize everything only healthcare and some essential services (Petro Canada should be bought back made the government huge $) and saying that detainees should be allowed to hear the evidence presented against them is just a basic tenet of international criminal law.

[safework]

In Canada, health-care is already nationalized. The clip isn't about having detainees getting information. It's about Jack's insistence that national secrets be divulged to the public and media in open court.

Which one of us is the idiot?

[1987Protagonist]

@safework

Others are pointing out that Mr. Layton is NOT, in fact, advocating the release of sensitive intelligence in an open court. Peter Van Loan's rebuttal was an evasion tactic.

You are simply parroting what Van Loan said. Polly want a cracker?

[guystoners]

@jamspooge86 communism is when everything is owned and run by the people (communal is the origin of the word). Every country in the world except for North Korea and Cuba have figured out that it doesn't work. Sorry, Cuba is figuring it out - they layed off 1/5 of their government workers and told them to get private sector jobs. Well just North Korea then and you.

[AdamHassan88]

lol get a life

[safework]

Got a life. Taliban Jack will never be the Prime Minister of Canada. Maybe you need to get a leader...

[AdamHassan88]

Who ever made this video has too much time on their hands lol

[safework]

Exposing Taliban-Jack for what he really is , is never frivolous work.

[Neville6000]

It is frivolus work, just as being a right-wing warmongering jag-off/Repug/Bushie wannabe with no real understanding of the issues is also.

[Spleenwhip]

harper is proving his manhood thru the bloodshed of canadian soldiers in a "war" in afghanistan that can't be won, and supporting a gov't of heroine dealers and warlordsin the process.

[safework]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Liberals send us into Afghanistan? How can you blame Harper for something that one of your leftist Parties did?

[Spleenwhip]

in 3 years under liberal rule, we lost about 5 soldiers....in 2 under conservative rule we've lost about a hundred....does that tell you something about the difference between peacekeeping and war? you can't win hearts and minds there whilst killing women and children in collateral damage incidents. It never was a good idea but we were seriously bullied by the yanks who were already pissed at our refusal to kiss ass regarding the iraq hoax.

[safework]

That's a flat out lie. Almost 40 soldiers were lost while under Liberal rule. Do you think we don't know how to use google? That blatant lie just got your ass banned spleenwhip.

[ToddWalther]

Mmmmm, I don't feel same with that guy. Naivety kill And specifically in a war context.

[bubufourtweny]

you conservatives are so out of whack. you think we have to be at war, its 2008 stop fighting. or is it you have such a small brain that force is the only way you know how to resolve issues. Layton represents the intelligent Canadian, sadly a small number nowadays. I blame America!

[safework]

Jack Layton is a communist. There's nothing intelligent in that.

[batmanneedssome200]

sounds like he is an humanitarian, war supporters are pratically muderers.

[safework]

Humanitarian? You mean like how Lenin, Stalin, Pol-Pot, Che', Castro, lil Kim and Hitler are/were humanitarians? Were the NDP Party's eugenics policies humanitarian? Give your friggin head a shake...

Hey!!! Just remembered an old joke: If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?

[pooslut]

Jack Layton isn't a communist. He is a social democrat. This is just another example of your inability to comprehend, or your willingness to lie to sway opinions. Just so we're clear, it's reprehensible.

[safework]

Have you ever read the communist manifesto? yes/no? Please, do tell the group how Layton's policies re nationalizing everything (healthcare, industry, labour, media, banking, education and housing) aren't in lock-step with Marx's ideals.

A pig, by any other name, is still a pig.

[Neville6000]

Well, we know what you are, or what I just called you in my previous response, but what is he?

[conner263]

lol look at the little lady in the box

[pooslut]

"He's never met a terrorist he didn't want to help."

The best part about this video is the blatant misinterpretation of the question being asked by the person who posted it. If you comprehended it correctly you would understand that the response by the government was just a spin.

[safework]

You gave yourself the name 'poo-slut'. How can you possibly expect to be taken seriously after you've given yourself such a name? Are you mental?

[pooslut]

I find anal promiscuity to be a subject of comical relief. I hope that answers your question.

The inherent irony in this is that by asking me this question, you've dodged my comment, which is exactly what happened in the video. Great work. Really.

[safework]

Your comment wasn't addressed because it's not taken seriously.

[playgirl101101]

What I heard him say was the attourny general of Canada was advising whitnesses to use National Security for any question that they dident feel like answering!

Remember we do not have the right to decline answering questions on the grounds of self incrimination here in Canada. Thank God!!!!

This kind of blanket cover up answer is just a way around this.

[BloatedSensations]

Are you for real? Anybody with half a brain knows that if you're not for unfettered, entirely opaque, unaccountable, all encompassing governmental power, then you're with the terrorists! Get with the Conservative line, man! You think the government should be accountable to the people? If so, then why do you Hate Canada and freedom? You Terrorist lover!

[Fionnlawrence]

The Nazi party were National Solcialists. The NDP are more like Social Democrats which hitler blamed for the loss of the first world war. They are not the same. I hope that safework is one of the millions Jack Layton will round up and murder if he is in fact a nazi.

[BloatedSensations]

Actually, the Nazis were socialists in name only once Hitler took control of the party. They began as a socialist political party, Hitler and his goons infiltrated and took control of the party and transformed it into an extreme right-wing, anti-socialist, fascist party.

[uristra]

the person who made this video needs to develop listening comprehension skills. layton is not saying the canadian government should reveal military secrets. he is saying that it should not, after promising to get to the bottom of the mess and promising not to stand in the way, coach witnesses to deflect cross-examination from judges by using national security as a pretext.

[safework]

You're misinformed. Watch it again...

[uristra]

i watched the video again. layton said precisely what i claim he said. he does not say anything remotely resembling what you claim he said.

i assume you're attempting a smear, and you're not just an illiterate person giving his honest interpretation. in either case, it's pathetic.

tomorrow, i will mail in my absentee ballot for the NDP, a party that stands for the integrity of the canadian military, by opposing its exploitation by the libservatives to commit the supreme international crime.

[safework]

Not a smear... Just accurately quoting 'Taliban Jack' using his own words...

[uristra]

maybe i'm wrong and you are just illiterate! anyone who's got sound capability on their computer can watch the video and confirm for themselves that you're not telling the truth.

[McJigger]

we call the intermittent comments "tongue and cheek"

The rest is Layton talking.

Seems liek the vids valid except for the tongue and cheek comments like "never met a terrorist he didnt want to help"

[uristra]

it's a video of layton talking, with intermittent totally inaccurate smears based on an unwillingness to listen to what layton is saying, or else the drawing of ridiculous inferences from what he's saying. i don't think tongue in cheek is an appropriate way to describe it.

[McJigger]

you must be right, whenever people call him taliban Jack they actually think he's in the taliban and we're all just astounded how people voted for him

sarcasm - not so easily portrayed online

[Kuisel88]

The NDP and Communism will never get my support. I'm surprised no one has ever forced or even asked him to step down for some of the comments he's made.

[madeconstudent]

fuck national security give me the truth. secrecy is fascism

[safework]

You're deranged...

[madeconstudent]

what is so deranged about transparency and accountability. going to war in the poorest nation on earth cause someone said they had terrorists living there is deranged

[thunderflash82]

Doesn't Taliban Jack look a lot like Lenin? Must be coincidence that they're both communist too!

[RobertKubica1121]

The shield is provocative and unneeded. Even if americans would build if for free and give Poland 50 billion dollars for their army like they want to, its still wrong.

[jjgiff1]

Robert's an idiot. Anybody that supports the NDP must be retarted. This film is so true. Jack Layton's a stupid communnist who wants to negotiate with the Taliban about the war and thinks that Canada should stop the War in Afghanistan. They're Terrorists! Just kill the terrorists and get the job done in Afghanistan and Iraq. PS- George Bush is the best president in the history of the United States.

[RobertKubica1121]

By the way were the Germans or the Poles the terrorists? Yes the germans. The same goes for america. They have murdered 1,100,000 Iraqis compared to them killing 3,000 americans.

[Johnnydmb23]

that is approx. 100,000 Iraqi civilians and troops together, not the figure you stated in the millions. Also let's try 4,160 just American soldiers killed (Reuters valid of 06/24/08)... so first off your numbers of way off.

[Johnnydmb23]

Now for your ethics! We are the morally upright country in this conflict, our nation still (though losing) regards our public's rights (life, liberty, property though vaguely). Islamo-Facist have made it very clear according to the Quaran of there plan for America and the free world. Also they are ORDERED by Allah to kill millions before there *so-called* prophecy can come to fruition. There women are raped and then murdered, gays are killed, non-believers are persecuted,

[Johnnydmb23]

and the goverment dictates over the whole.

THEY ATTACKED US, THEY HAVE ATTACKED OUR ALLIES (SPAIN, BRITAIN, ISRAEL) and for our freedom to remain they must be destroyed, and for that many have to die. Although the difference is that we are Morally right, and they are morally WRONG. We have every right to destroy what has attacked us, and who has made it a point to attack again. The blood of there people are on there hands not ours.

[DavidRaymondAmos]

I keep no secrets about the incompetence of our National Security and the malice of the RCMP towards the citizens they purportedly serve. Jacky Boy Layton is the liar not I.

[RobertKubica1121]

How may languages do you westerners speak again? Besides you ignorant ape, you are trying to hide the point as you were completely humiliated. Canada needs to get out of Afghanistan period. Harper deserves the death penalty that he supports.

[safework]

Ok, I'll bite...

Why, Robert, is the number of languages spoken in western Canada relevant? What's the point being hidden? What exactly has Harper done that warrants his death?

On the Harper question, you do know that it was the Liberals that sent us into Afghanistan don't you?

[RobertKubica1121]

Yes Paul Martin was as bad as Harper, the point is that without discussing conservative vs liberal points of view, war is NEITHER. Its is not a Point of View and it is not an Option. I exaturated with Harper's death penalty, but every leader that has sent troops into another nation should go on trial for war crimes. Furthermore the NDP opposed the Afghanistan war from the beginning.

[thunderflash82]

You're from Poland right? Next time Russia, or Germany, or any other country invades Poland we'll remember your sage advice and avoid going to war.

[RobertKubica1121]

What if we are invaded by the most aggressive country in the world currently? Liek Iraq and Afghanistan... Will you come to our aid just like you did to Afghanistan's and Iraq's? I have not seen Canada declaring war on america... So if america murderers 1,100,000 Iraqis thats okay, but the Germans are different somehow? NO! america's actions are unfortuantely the closest we have seen compared to Germany. they have killed more people than any other country since Stalin's time.

[thunderflash82]

I hope you start learning English then. Polish is a useless language anyways. Btw, how's that missile shield coming along?

[RobertKubica1121]

Well, actually i speak English. Furthermore i speak French Polish and German. Polish wil not help you much outside of Poland, that is true, but i bet that i speak more languages than you. The missile shield is completely criminal and we are doing everything we can to stop the government.

[RobertKubica1121]

More than 100,000 Afghanis have been murdered in the war which Canada has supported. I am ashamed to be Canadian. We should not allow the red nech Manitobans, Saskstoons, and Albertans to vote. They are cowboys not educated citizens. I bet the producer of this film goes regularly to the rodeo.

[hldietsdotcom]

Red neck Manitobans ????? I think you are the ones who are not educated. We have a NDP government in this province.

[RobertKubica1121]

I am sorry for my mistake. NDP is the greatest party in Canada, also the Bloc is good,

[NapalmSabbathChains]

"the Bloc is good" that idiotic statement right there makes everything you say completely irrelevant. The Bloc is a separatist party that wants to DESTROY Canada, not build it. And judging by your truly ignorant statement about Afg., you have never talked to a Canadian Forces serviceman (or woman). Canadians are well-liked there for our leadership in humanitarian aid, communication skills with locals, and infrastructure development. Your numbers on the Afghan casualties are completely fabricated

[SirJohnA]

I'm ashamed that your Canadian as well. As for being Red Neck, yes that's how you spell it, you have no clue! I'll tell you one thing about living in the west, we have money, you have socialists and are on the brink of recession. If only the west could vote out Ontario what a wonderful world this would be.

[thunderflash82]

I'm from Toronto and I'm sick of the socialists. Our city has turned into a shit hole. Multiculturalism is great! What a load of bullshit. We don't do anything productive for Canada in Toronto. We just make profits off of everything that happens in the rest of Canada. One more thing, our hockey team sucks ass!

[NapalmSabbathChains]

If you want Canada to be run like the TTC and the City of Toronto, vote NDP. Their campaigns are paid for by the big greedy unions, they operate on platforms no one can pay for, and they are only in it to please their masters in the union (like David Miller and CUPE) The garbage strike is a prime example of this union puppetry. REMEMBER KIDDIES A UNION IS A PROFIT DRIVEN BUSINESS. THEYVE SHIPPED MORE JOBS TO CHINA THAN NAFTA EVER HAS.

[RobertKubica1121]

you are STUPID beyond belief, you will burn in hell for being a murderer

[safework]

Contact your floor warden and tell them to increase your meds...

[RobertKubica1121]

You are an idiot, plain and simple.

[safework]

Care to back that up with actual facts?

Look dude, you can try to dissemble Jack's comments all you want but unless you can somehow prove that Jack didn't make the comments that the video caught him making, you're nothing more than a useless twit.

[RobertKubica1121]

The military has abused prisoners in Afghanistan. They are murderers and to support american pigs, which officialy support torture, is criminal! Out of Afghanistan NOW! Period.

[hldietsdotcom]

I agree...we need to get out of Afgahnistan

[PosMedProductions]

There is 1 square mile of banks

in london ,385 are international and 70 are American.The Inner city is in control of every central bank in the world.There are 6 countries who do not have central banks.

Iraq (has a central bank) ,Iran, afghanistan ( processing )North korea,Cuba,Libya and Sudan.There is no war on terror only a war on the autonomy of canada , civil liberties and freedom.Wake up to real issues and understand that banks cover up their lies using national security as the reason.

[safework]

Are you on drugs?  Seriously, are you on drugs?

[jaropolly]

yes, I took the red pill as for you the blue

pill was your choice.Ignorance is bliss !

sheeple boy.

[curtinder69]

i hate this guy, he should be tried for treason, and if he loves immigrants so much he should move out of canada

[redcollargedeon]

Oh, you're right. My mistake.

[redcollargedeon]

Apparently, it`s not treason. It's called dissent.

It's the the "new black" for american Democrats, so the New Democrats are jumping on the bandwagon.

This video is from 2003. Nothing's changed since.

[safework]

Actually, the clip is from May of 2007...

[Duckthunda]

I think the question that should be asked is do we have the right to force political change in afganistan? When the Soviets tried it we all condemnd it even though they said that they were trying help women and build schools ect. Why then is it right for us?

[Seacan]

I just want to make a quick comment in regards to one of the statements made by the user "summitcrazy". You made an accusation that the government is not honouring the Geneva Convention! The Geneva Convention pertains to Prisoners of War, not Insurgents or Terrorists, which the combatants in Afghanistan clearly are! Because these persons are not uniformed combatants fighting in a conventional war they are not entitled to protection under the Geneva Convention!

[snooganssnoogans]

Jack Layton and the NDP are fucking communists.

[bphilli3]

There is no CONTEXT for this. Witnesses to what? Cross examination for what? Where? What was Layton's response to the Conservative MP's allegations?

[ArmyMan169]

were did you get the scraches

[safework]

plenty of sites out there that'll allow you to download sound effects. Google "sound effects download" and you'll get a whole wack of results...

[summitcrazy]

Adler points out that the Taliban chopped peoples heads off, is that any worse then dropping bombs on targets knowing full well there is a high probability of inocent civilians being killed? What about the torture of detainees that were handed over to Afghan authorities and the numerous civilians that were killed in the cross fire of this war? Would Adler prsent these facts to respondents? Probably not because like you he is just shooting fish in a barrel.

[safework]

again, spoken like a true caliphate...

[summitcrazy]

If the best you can do to defend your posistion is to resort to name calling it's pretty sad and shows everyone how weak your argument really is and how childish you are. If you really support Democracy then you would tell your buddy Steve to put pressure on the president to bring Malalia Joya back into the Afghan parliment with full rights!

[safework]

"If the best you can do to defend your posistion is to resort to name calling it's pretty sad and shows everyone how weak your argument really is and how childish you are."

You do understand that we're having this conversation in the comments thread of a youtube video clip right? Come by "Let Freedom Reign" if you want serious discussion as I haven't the time to retype everything over here.

[summitcrazy]

Quoting Charles Adler of all people! He is the most conservative, self-centered talk show host in all of Canada. It doesn't matter how much people know about the taliban the survey is meant to determine if canadians would support talks with the taliban. I agree that with alder that Canadians need to know more of the facts and that is why Jack Layton asked Stephen Harper why he told witness to lie about what is going on in afghanistan by saying there testimony is a threat to national security!

[safework]

Spoken like a true caliphate.

[summitcrazy]

In closing, I am very happy that Jack Layton and the NDP want to support our troops by bring them home from a mission that was intended only to protect our own interests and not those of the people in Afghanistan. It's time for the Conservative to be accountable to the people of this country about their failed afhganistan policy and stop the name calling and political games!

[safework]

Spoken like a good little socialist...

[summitcrazy]

Canadians support talks with Taliban: poll

In The Strategic Counsel poll conducted for CTV and The Globe and Mail, there was almost two-to-one support for the notion:

Net good idea: 63 per cent

Net bad idea: 32 per cent

[summitcrazy]

"In a way, it's a very Canadian thing to believe that nothing can't be solved by sitting across a table and talking," Peter Donolo of The Strategic Counsel told CTV on Sunday.

[safework]

The Strategic Counsel was running a push poll. Check out the latest addition to my videos...

[summitcrazy]

Youtube states that you removed the video when I tryed to view it. As Jack Layton says in this video, it's denial, after denial, after denial. Like a good little Conservative your trying to distract people from the failures of this government to respect human rights by honoring the geneva convention, and failing to promote democracy by failing to acknowledge the shameful removal of Mololia Joya from the Afhan parliment!

[safework]

Check again princess...

[summitcrazy]

You conviently left out the second half of the definition of a push poll "...The term is also sometimes used incorrectly to refer to legitimate polls which test political messages, some of which may be negative. Push polling has been condemned by the American Association of Political Consultants."

[safework]

It added nothing to the definition of what a push poll "is"

[thehootz]

"Spoken like a good little socialist" Damn safework you've completely overturned his argument by calling him a socialist. Just to let you know, that word isn't a bad thing and when you use it as an insult you just look like an idiot. If socialist is an insult then you are a corporate whore.

[safework]

Maybe you should ask the millions killed by Stalin, Mao and their pal Che if 'socialism' isn't a bad word... Oh wait... You can't ask the millions that were killed because they're ALL FREAKIN DEAD!

Let's take a different approach... Every year hundreds of Cubans float on hunks of wood in an attempt to land on U.S. soil in order to experience freedom. How many people float on hunks of wood, risking their lives, to get into the socialist utopia of Cuba?

None, you dolt! Why is that?

[thehootz]

Lol yeah cause socialism automatically equals communism... You know there are different levels of socialism right. There's left and then there's far left. If you want to make that comparison then if you're a conservative I guess that makes you a facist.

Cuba is in the shape it is right now because of the US embargo, not because it is communist. Maybe you should ask the residents of central America that revolted and fought for democracy only for the CIA to fund a counter revolution and dictator

[safework]

Stalin was communist. Hitler was a socialist. Both used the force of the state to take wealth from the rich and redistribute it throughout society. Those are facts and can't be disputed. The only difference between the two is how much control the state had over the means of production.

The last time I checked, Cuba could trade with any country in the world except the U.S. Your embargo argument falls flat.

Go back to school jr, you're out of your league here...

[thehootz]

How the hell can you even compare what Layton is doing with Stalin or Hitler? That is the only thing you can do to try and beat down his side. He's not perfect but shit to compare the little socialism that he and NDP members want to Hitler and Stalin.

Also with the Cuba thing, yeah they can trade with other countries. If Canada were to cut trade to the states we'd be fucked regardless of our other trading partners around the world. Cuba needs to be able to trade with the states.

[safework]

"He's not perfect but shit to compare the little socialism that he and NDP members want to Hitler and Stalin. "

Is there such a thing as being just "a little bit pregnant"?

Not so much.

Whether it's NDP or Nazi socialism, the fact remains that wealth is taken, at the barrel of a gun, from the producer and redistributed to those who can't or won't produce on their own.  Though their methods are different, the result is always the same...

[thehootz]

"Is there such a thing as being just "a little bit pregnant"?"

Another terrible comparison by safework.

When did Jack Layton ever say he was going to force Socialism on the people? There is such thing as "a little socialism" safework and that's what we want.

[safework]

"When did...on the people?"

Apparently you're not familiar with the NDP Party platform. Give it a read sometime...

"There is such thing as "a little socialism" safework..."

Picture a pristine mountain lake. Picture that lake after having 10,000 lbs of mercury dumped into it. Picture that same lake with only 5 gallons of mercury dumped into it...

A little or a lot, the water's still contaminated and unfit to drink...

My comparisons stand and you need to do some homework...

[thehootz]

Holy shit enough with the ridiculous comparisons. It's not validating your point. We have socialism in our society if you haven't noticed. Heathcare, police, fire dept, postal etc.

[safework]

Like I said... The water's still contaminated...

Do you really think that the average taxpayer is happy that their earnings are going toward buying crack pipes and condoms for hookers? Do you think that they wake up in the morning singing the praises of a 3 month MRI wait list?

Give your friggin' head a shake...

[thehootz]

What in the fuck are you even talking about anymore? You're just stating a bunch of bullshit that you call facts but can't even link them to the NDP.

[BloatedSensations]

Give him a break Hootz. He's obviously a Conservative. Logic, reason, rationality, basic comprehension, and having a firm grasp on reality aren't exactly a Conservative's strong points.

[summitcrazy]

If the person who posted this video had one scrap of decency in there body they would never have made such a comparison. The ignorance displayed by this person by not understanding the autrocities commited by the taliban represents the conditions that has allowed tyranical dictatorships, to rape, abuse, and kill other human beings, long before September 11! Only when it was in our own interests were we willing to help these people, and that my friends is sad!

[summitcrazy]

Open your ears! Take off the conservative goggles! And listen! Witnesses who have information that is not a threat to national security are being told by the Conservative government to say that it is a National Security issue so that the government can cover up it's failed afghanistan policy! Sounds pretty straight forward to me! The Conservative refuse to be accountable on this issue....to be continued

[mikeicannevaro]

you have a problem with the truth..the guy openly says he wants the president to disclose issues to a judge..listen again again again again again again again again again again againuntil you hear it ok got it good...not yet no you've had it

[summitcrazy]

First of all Stephen Harper is not the president of Canada but the Prime Minister. And second of all I agree that Jack Layton wanted them to testify. The problem here is whether or not there information is a threat to National security! So maybe you should pay more attention to my argument! Read it over, and over...